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Ok, I know this isnt a smartphone forum but, a friend of mine has a t-mobile dash and he sat on it cracking the screen. He needs to get his contacts off of it, I tried soti desktop controller with no luck there is an error when trying to install the app on the device. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Ok, I know this isnt a smartphone forum but, a friend of mine has a t-mobile dash and he sat on it cracking the screen. He needs to get his contacts off of it, I tried soti desktop controller with no luck there is an error when trying to install the app on the device. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Donno about t-mobile but I know cingular verizon and sprint if you take the phone (and are a customer) into the store and ask pretty pretty please with sugar on top can often download your contacts and either upload them into the new phone you buy from them or give you a print out. This only works if a) the phone is still physically working b) they have the hardware/software to do it and your phone supports doing it and c) the person at the store feels like it. A lot of the time they'll just say no or that they can't. But tell them you're interested in buying a new phone with lots of accessories and a 2 year contract and an extended warranty and magically they become capable of doing it
ty whomever moved it, i didnt know what the hell the propper name for the dash was LOL
I have no idea what's going on, but I can't get my Tilt 2 to tether, sync, or even see my PC. It was working fine one day, then it stoped working only to start working again. Today I spent over 4 hours trying to get it to work. I looked on all the forums to try to get help without any luck. I even hard booted (reset the firmware) and blew out everything in my phone. That didn't do anything other than to lose all my settings and configurations. Anytime I plug the USB cable into the phone (I've tried 2 computers and 3 different USB cables) it just charges the unit.
Would anyone have any ideas or tips I can use to get this darn phone tethering again or seeing my PC in general?
Thanks!
Nathan
Had the same happen to me. I had to use task29 to erase everything on my phone, then my computer recognized the phone as a storage device. I flashed a new ROM and ActiveSync worked again.
Yeap .. I Had This Happen ...
Had This Happen To Me to..
I had to bend the connector on the tp2 .. so the usb cable "fit" better
autonomous-inc said:
Had the same happen to me. I had to use task29 to erase everything on my phone, then my computer recognized the phone as a storage device. I flashed a new ROM and ActiveSync worked again.
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How can you use task 29 when you're phone is not connected with the computer?
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How can you use task 29 when you're phone is not connected with the computer?
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Ahah. I don't know. I never bothered figuring that part out. My Tilt 2 suddenly became very problematic, not connecting to the internet, or connecting via Active Sync, so I just used the program tool and task 29 and it worked out.
I just checked out the USB port on the phone. I got a pin that you would normally get when you buy new shirts and poked around in the port. I pulled out a bit of lint. Saw one gold pin was crossed in there and fixed it. Since it was on the bottom though it really didn't make much difference with tethering and such since a regular USB port seems to only use the top.
Plugged in the computer USB into the phone and nothing. Same thing. To think I started all this because first I need to sync my phone with Activesync and second I wanted to flash the ROM with the new AT&T ROM that's out. Doesn't seem I'll ever be able to do that. I think a call to AT&T is in order and maybe I can get a replacement unit. This one is really pointing to a hardware problem.
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Plugged in the computer USB into the phone and nothing. Same thing. To think I started all this because first I need to sync my phone with Activesync and second I wanted to flash the ROM with the new AT&T ROM that's out. Doesn't seem I'll ever be able to do that. I think a call to AT&T is in order and maybe I can get a replacement unit. This one is really pointing to a hardware problem.
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AT&T was no help whatsoever. They didn't even know what I was talking about when I said tether. Their suggestion since I didn't have insurance was to buy a new phone. Sigh. I saw that AT&T has the phone for 1 cent but I'd have to change my data plan to 2GB with tethering from my current plan of unlimited with tethering for the same price (damn Apple who made them do that).
Anyone have a suggestion on getting the phone I currently own to work? I'm not really inclined to buy software as someone mentioned (sktools). Someone mentioned replog.exe but they never specify if it's on the phone or the PC. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nathan
Silly question maybe, if so I am sorry but,
have you checked through the Active Sync settings on your phone and, if you have settings for the USB to PLC connection, check those. Also start up Active sync on your PC and check how that is set up.
Again, sorry if you have done this.
Seems to be a TP2/Tilt2 issue that's ongoing, the connector on the bottom of my touchpro2 stopped working as a USB connection a couple months back. Lately I've even been having trouble charging it in the car (since the cable bounces around). I'm using a non-stock ROM so I have to find a way to re-lock the phone (after re-flashing OEM ROM) without connecting to my computer.
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Silly question maybe, if so I am sorry but,
have you checked through the Active Sync settings on your phone and, if you have settings for the USB to PLC connection, check those. Also start up Active sync on your PC and check how that is set up.
Again, sorry if you have done this.
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Hi, not a silly question. I tried the phone on 4 different computers that had activesync on it and the phone wouldn't even recognize that a USB for data was plugged in. It worked fine for charging though.
I couldn't find any configuration for the USB port, so I may be SOL.
I was going to just buy a new Tilt 2, but thinking back the USB connector has been pretty flaky to begin with. Sometimes the unit will work when plugged in and sometimes I had problems. It could be that my phone was failing all this time and that's why it's been flaky, but others have had the same problem. Since I need tethering I might still buy a new HTC phone (I hate to do that since I'm not too thrilled with the way they design the phone) but just not the Tilt 2.
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AT&T was no help whatsoever. They didn't even know what I was talking about when I said tether. Their suggestion since I didn't have insurance was to buy a new phone. Sigh. I saw that AT&T has the phone for 1 cent but I'd have to change my data plan to 2GB with tethering from my current plan of unlimited with tethering for the same price (damn Apple who made them do that).
Anyone have a suggestion on getting the phone I currently own to work? I'm not really inclined to buy software as someone mentioned (sktools). Someone mentioned replog.exe but they never specify if it's on the phone or the PC. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nathan
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The phone hasn't been out for even a year, so you must have had it for less than a year. So its still on warranty, unless you bought a refurb. All ATT's phones are warrantied for one year. Refurbs are warrantied for 90 days.
http://telephones.att.com/telephones_ui/support/dsp_limited_warranty.cfm
Also, assuming you bought the Tilt2 at the subsidized price, you will not be eligible for the 1 cent discount price. You only get to purchase one phone "upgrade" at the subsidized price every 2 years. You will have to pay full price ($400) minus the $250 discount they have right now, so it would still cost you $150.
Try calling ATT again, it seems the rep you talked to didn't know much about smartphones or their company's data plans (since they didn't know what tethering was), or about their warranty policies.
Unless your phone is very different to my UK version it will have settings to allow it to use USB and maybe you should look further into the set-up on the phone itself.
The settings I have are in
Start/Settings/Connections/USB to PC.
Also,
if you run Active Sync on your phone and select Menu the connection needs setting there for USB.
Bluetooth
Have you try teether with Bluetooth? It is not a fix but at least this would be a work around plan. I can teether with Bluetooth or USB connection.
Thanks for all the help and suggestion everyone. They've been very helpful.
tjhawkes, I've been using the USB to PC for as long as I have had the phone. I guess that's what was meant when it was suggested I configure the USB?
chompx2 - I don't have have bluetooth on my desktop PC.
Redpoint - my phone was a refurb so I guess no warranty for me. I would be happy to pay $150 to get a new one though if that's what it cost. I tried to get the representative on the phone to do it but she refused(!) thinking I could get it cheaper somewhere else. I looked on ebay and everyone seemed to be selling it for $250. So, if $150 is what it cost, then I'm game for that.
That said, I have an old Tilt with a broken screen. I was going to take the USB port from that phone and install it on the Tilt 2 and see if perhaps that was the problem all along. I just looked at the USB port in my Tilt2 and one of the bottom row has a pin missing. Must have broken off. However, I can't imagine that being the problem though since a regular USB on a computer only uses the top row. Sigh. Technology.
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Redpoint - my phone was a refurb so I guess no warranty for me. I would be happy to pay $150 to get a new one though if that's what it cost. I tried to get the representative on the phone to do it but she refused(!) thinking I could get it cheaper somewhere else. I looked on ebay and everyone seemed to be selling it for $250. So, if $150 is what it cost, then I'm game for that.
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Appears I was wrong about having to wait until your contract was up to get the 1 cent deal (check out posts 13 and 14 on the following thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739606&page=2
I say go for it, since it sounds like you have a hardware issue (pins on USB port damages).
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I was going to just buy a new Tilt 2, but thinking back the USB connector has been pretty flaky to begin with. Sometimes the unit will work when plugged in and sometimes I had problems. It could be that my phone was failing all this time and that's why it's been flaky, but others have had the same problem. Since I need tethering I might still buy a new HTC phone (I hate to do that since I'm not too thrilled with the way they design the phone) but just not the Tilt 2.
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You will need to buy a phone that works on the AT&T high speed network. I don't think a "world" HTC phone will work with anything except EDGE.
I had the same no USB problem with my phone. Would charge fine via the cable, but no transfers, PC's wouldn't recognize it, etc, etc.
Took it into an AT&T store and they accepted it on the spot for a warranty exchange. They did the usual inspection for damage, water/moisture contact & such, but were happy to replace the phone for me.
I had a non-standard ROM on the phone, and changing the ROM and Hard-SPL back to stock via the MicroSD card was a bit of a challenge, but I did get it done in the end.
I was still able to sync via Bluetooth and use the Wifi Router on the phone for internet access for my PC, so overall, I would say that the lack of USB functionality wasn't a game ender for me, but I agree that it is annoying!
Cheers and good luck.
Because I like beating a dead horse with a stick, I thought I'd let you know what I ended up doing. I went to the AT&T store as suggested and they wouldn't exchange it. I called AT&T warranty and they wouldn't do it. The USB port's right audio pin got pushed into the phone so any type of USB damage would have ended up costing me over $300 for a new phone. I bought what I thought was the right port from a cellphone parts company in Hong Kong. Turned out the USB port was soldered onto the motherboard so I couldn't use the part. However, while the phone was open I pushed the pin back out and now the audio works again.
Syncing and tethering, however, is still dead. What's interesting was that it was working reliably, especially while on vacation just a week beforehand. Not sure what caused it to die.
So, I've basically given up. I fixed my old HTC Tilt (Kaiser) LCD screen and now I'm just going to tether with that phone instead. Sad because that phone is more reliable than the Tilt2. Too bad it didn't have the nice screen and a nice music interface.
Ouch, I had similar problems but with my Kaiser not my TP2 so I hope the same doesn't happen. I did some research and it turns out that the reason that micro USB connections are now the standard are that they have a much more reliable life cycle than the mini USB connectors the TP2 and Kaiser use (and lots of other Kaiser users complained of the same failure).
In brief, we're all doomed.
I'm not sure what the differences are between the different bricks (soft/hard) but here's what happened with my phone:
I just tried to install a mod to use the power button as a shutter for the camera (had CMW TouchWiz Jellybean installed working fine) but that MAY have been for the international version. The OP didn't specify and I decided to try it to find out. Then I installed a custom reboot app and used that to reboot my phone. Ended up with my phone not being able to turn on. I can't get into download or recovery mode via button combos, but when I have it plugged in, I see the red (orange?) LED light come on.
I scoured the forums for a fix for this and it seems the USB jig is the only option for whats happened to my phone. If someone knows another way, I'm all ears! I backup my phone just about weekly so I have everything (other than a USB jig) to restore my phone to a working version.
What I'm wondering is would a USB jig get my phone into download mode? Again, I'm not sure what "brick" has happened to my phone so I just want to make sure a USB jig would work.
Ok this is my advice:
First make sure your battery is charged. Make sure its NOT plugged in when you attempt to get into Fastboot or Recovery. After your unplugged, hit the power button and let it go then hold home button and volume up to go to recovery.
IT has to work.
My battery is fully charged. I tried it on my cousins SGS3 and it showed 98%. I just tried what you said (hit the power button, let go then hold home and volume up buttons) and still no dice. I've also tried the normal way of getting into recovery (holding down all three power, volume up, and home buttons) with no avail.
It doesn't make sense to me (I'm fairly familiar with Android phones since the G1) since the custom reboot app is just that; a custom reboot. The mod should have downloaded into the Downloads folder which means nothing else other than my TouchWiz Jelly Bean CWM is in the root folder for recovery. Is there any way Dolphin Browser would've downloaded the mod into the root folder? If so, is there a way I can check via my PC?
EDIT: I went digging around the interwebs for more info on what's happened to my phone and I found that my phone also shows the QHSUSB_LOAD driver installation when plugged into my PC. From what I can gather, that seems to be a sign that I flashed an itnl ROM on my SGS3 and hardbricked my phone. It still doesn't make sense to me since I didn't flash anything after downloading the mod/custom reboot app.
EDIT2: I went to a local Sprint store to see if they could shed some light on it. I told them I downloaded a file and an app, went to reboot my phone and now it won't turn on (which is what I did, just didn't mention it was already rooted). He tried to figure out and came up with nothing since he said every browser app should download into its own folder and not the root folder (I think he knew my phone was rooted but didn't want to say anything. Cool guy). Before I get shamed for not taking responsibility for my actions, I offered to pay for a new phone replacement but the technician was kind enough to order a new one for free. While I will get a replacement phone Monday/Tuesday, I'd still like input as to what happened. It'd be helpful to know so others don't make whatever the same mistake I made.
Okay update. I called the store and they won't be able to get the phone for awhile so I'm back to wondering if a USB jig would work.
Not sure if a usb jig will work or not but they are easy enough to make or you can buy one.
If the button combo wont turn it on a jig wont either. Sounds like you hard bricked and are gonna need jtag to fix it. Do you have a link to what you flashed
I wish I did. I've been trying to find it again, but I can't even seem to remember the name.
On zedomax's guide on making a USB jig, he says it can save hard-bricked phones. So should I just ignore that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331782
EDIT: I just realized the "should I ignore that" part may sound a bit snarky, but it is in fact an actual question!
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On zedomax's guide on making a USB jig, he says it can save hard-bricked phones. So should I just ignore that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331782
EDIT: I just realized the "should I ignore that" part may sound a bit snarky, but it is in fact an actual question!
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I would give it a shot. It may work, if may not, but it will be educational.
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I'll be trying this tomorrow after work with a borrowed USB jig and I'll report back to let you all know whether it's worked or not! (big thanks to vladvertigo for letting me borrow his USB jig!)
Ya i hate to be a downer but i wanna say "I called it" ahead of time.
QHSUSB_DLOAD is the kiss of death. Your phone is a doorstop and the jig is a no go. Trust me on this one
I'm gonna have that in mind when I try. I'm not expecting anything, so if it doesn't work, I won't be let down.
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I'm gonna have that in mind when I try. I'm not expecting anything, so if it doesn't work, I won't be let down.
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If its any consolation tho, look up the htc unbricking project. A few htc phones were able to be brought back to life in that mode. Not saying itd be anywhere near as easy to do but its something ive messed with every time ive managed to brick my s3. (Im on #4) I think eventually someone will be able to resurect these in a similar way. Im sure its possible.
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I'm gonna have that in mind when I try. I'm not expecting anything, so if it doesn't work, I won't be let down.
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Same problem with my SGH-R530., The phone doesnt boot up, but I get the red LED light when I plug it in without the battery, and my computer recognizes a new device. I found the QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers and now the phone shows up in Device Manager as a QComm_DLoad 9008 (something like that)...I can get the COM Port in yellow using Odin 3.85, DFS sees it as being in download mode...every program I use can recognize the device, I just can't get anything to flash. I also tried the anyway jig...no luck there. If anyone finds a solution PLEASE share. There are a lot of people with this issue. I'm just switching from HTC to Samsung, and I didn't realize that there were so many different model numbers for the SG3. I was flashing and I'm sure it was some firmware for a different model that caused the brick. As far as I can tell from what I've read, JTAG is the only fix.
Confirming this for anyone who searches around like I did and had multiple answers.
If your SGS3 won't power on to any mode and you just get a blank screen, a USB jig will not work. You've hard-bricked your phone and if you're looking to fix it, JTAG is the way to go (around $60 I believe) unless you just want to replace it via your carrier.
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If its any consolation tho, look up the htc unbricking project. A few htc phones were able to be brought back to life in that mode. Not saying itd be anywhere near as easy to do but its something ive messed with every time ive managed to brick my s3. (Im on #4) I think eventually someone will be able to resurect these in a similar way. Im sure its possible.
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I skimmed through that. I haven't tried it (haven't used Linux in a long, long, LONG time) but thanks! My local Sprint store is willing to replace my phone for free still. Most likely Monday or Tuesday (though hurricane Sandy is coming in. Walking to the store is going to suck.)
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Confirming this for anyone who searches around like I did and had multiple answers.
If your SGS3 won't power on to any mode and you just get a blank screen, a USB jig will not work. You've hard-bricked your phone and if you're looking to fix it, JTAG is the way to go (around $60 I believe) unless you just want to replace it via your carrier.
I skimmed through that. I haven't tried it (haven't used Linux in a long, long, LONG time) but thanks! My local Sprint store is willing to replace my phone for free still. Most likely Monday or Tuesday (though hurricane Sandy is coming in. Walking to the store is going to suck.)
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Thanks for the confirmation! Since my phone is for US Cellular and I am not a customer of theirs (I was flashing it to my carrier), I can't ask US Cellular for a replacement! Can anyone confirm that Samsung doesn't do warranty replacements for this type of problem? If that's so, my next step is sending it to mobiletechvideo.
Rumor has it they will. Tell them it won't power up. They send a mailing kit. You send the phone. They fix n send back
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Rumor has it they will. Tell them it won't power up. They send a mailing kit. You send the phone. They fix n send back
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Hope this is true.
Just sent mine off. :highfive:
Ya the qusb thing you get is the sign of a hardbrick. get it jtag'd or insurance is your only answer
Samsung will do the warranty replacement as long as there is no physical damage, the device itself is warranted for 12 months and battery 18 months. As long as the device has no to minor physical damage it will be replaced for free for hardware failure, acceptable physical damage is minor scratches, no obvious dents, dings, cracks or deep scratches/gouges. If there is alot of physical damage they will still replace or repair it but there will be a free involved.
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Samsung: Intercept, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Nexus10
HTC: EVO4g, EVO 3d
LG: Optimus G, Nexus 4
Asus: Nexus7
Motorola: Photon
Amazon: Kindle Fire, Kindle Fire HD
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Ya the qusb thing you get is the sign of a hardbrick. get it jtag'd or insurance is your only answer
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Samsung will do the warranty replacement as long as there is no physical damage, the device itself is warranted for 12 months and battery 18 months. As long as the device has no to minor physical damage it will be replaced for free for hardware failure, acceptable physical damage is minor scratches, no obvious dents, dings, cracks or deep scratches/gouges. If there is alot of physical damage they will still replace or repair it but there will be a free involved.
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Samsung: Intercept, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Nexus10
HTC: EVO4g, EVO 3d
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Asus: Nexus7
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Talked to Samsung, sent it in for inspection, received it today restored!!! Yes!!!:good:
Hooray for Samsung!!!
My device often fails to wake up correctly.
The screen remains black (I can see the backlight is active) and nothing is displayed.
This is getting ridiculous now!
This is the 3rd device since September; I have had one device replaced because of a faulty speaker; then the LCD broke on the next device when I simply picked it up and now this!
I am considering asking for a refund!
I do not want to have to pay another £7.50 to return the device and then find that the replacement device also has a fault!
{EDIT} Going to try a full device reinitialisation one last time before making a decision.
/fingers crossed
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My device often fails to wake up correctly.
The screen remains black (I can see the backlight is active) and nothing is displayed.
This is getting ridiculous now!
This is the 3rd device since September; I have had one device replaced because of a faulty speaker; then the LCD broke on the next device when I simply picked it up and now this!
I am considering asking for a refund!
I do not want to have to pay another £7.50 to return the device and then find that the replacement device also has a fault!
{EDIT} Going to try a full device reinitialisation one last time before making a decision.
/fingers crossed
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Although I am rather new on the xda forums... I thought I've seen you around here for a long time already.
Seems rather odd to me that surdu_petru's tablet failed and went in for repair, then now you say you've been having problems with 3 tablets (since Sept)?
Even worse, sorry surdu decided to take an exchange for a newer XS... and I'm guessing that you are hoping to get such an option also if you return yours. I mean, come on now, you've gone through 3 tablets in 3 months time... they don't even RMA and return them that fast unless you live right next door!
I'm not trying to be rude at all here, and if you truly have had all those problems I do hope you can find a solution, but...
Just seems rather strange that now there are 2 people that I've seen around this forum for months that all of a sudden seem to want to give up on their Archos G9 tablets.
Meanwhile, I've got a "classic" (1GHz with 512M RAM) 101 G9 that is just now a year old and would be working super if it was not for the stupidity of upgrading to the Archos 4.0.25 (total crap, memory management not working at all in that version) and 4.0.26 firmware (at least the fixed the memory management, but still has other problems). [was just pure luck I had already been reading things here on xda so that I could install an un-official SDE and get back to 4.0.7 to keep mine working until the next official firmware, or test firmware, whatever]
Since Archos seems to have a VERY BAD HABIT of turning something that could be really great into total garbage with their firmware upgrades.. well, I guess I can see you losing interest. In which case, I would have to say go for the refund and buy a tablet from a better company! Don't know if I'd ever buy anything from Archos again, but not because of the hardware being bad (debatable), but mainly just because their firmware simply does not work most of the time (should not have needed half a dozen firmware upgrades, plus about that many "test" version to get to work right... and then get trashed again with the 4.0.2x upgrades).
Hmm, maybe you SHOULD just grab the money and run!
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... they don't even RMA and return them that fast unless you live right next door!...
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Coincidentally I live in the same city as their UK returns office.
I really like the tablet when it works, but it is hard to ignore the problems I'm facing.
I have just started reinstalling all my apps (nightmare) and truly hope that after completely reinitialising the OS the tablet behaves correctly from now on.
I will stay with 4.0.7 as I experience a massive reduction in battery life on the 4.0.25 ROM
If the tablet starts to wake up to a black screen then I will ask for a refund and look for an alternative.
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Coincidentally I live in the same city as their UK returns office.
I really like the tablet when it works, but it is hard to ignore the problems I'm facing.
I have just started reinstalling all my apps (nightmare) and truly hope that after completely reinitialising the OS the tablet behaves correctly from now on.
I will stay with 4.0.7 as I experience a massive reduction in battery life on the 4.0.25 ROM
If the tablet starts to wake up to a black screen then I will ask for a refund and look for an alternative.
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Well, if you were using 4.0.25 then that's your problem right there!!!
As far as "stock" official Archos firmware goes (and I've been through just about all of those by now), there are really ONLY two that actually work anywhere near right... 3.2.80 and 4.0.7.
*IF* you already have made the big mistake of ever installing ANY of the official Archos 4.0.2x or "rooted" versions firmwares, and then want to get your tablet working anywhere near close to right again... then these are the ONLY good "rooted" versions to choose from:
[ROM] UPDATE Custom Rom Honeycomb 3.2.1 - Firmware 3.2.80 Only for SDE ;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530615&highlight=3+2+80
[ROM] Stock Archos ICS Firmware 4.0.7 - ROOT Version !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720422
ANY FIRMWARE based on Archos 4.0.24 or 4.0.25 is totally worthless. The memory management does not even work right in those, and there's all kinds of other problems Archos created with their own MediaCenter stuff and file indexing! Do NOT waste your time with any of those!
Although Archos did (at least partially) fix the memory management in the newer 4.0.26 firmware... I would NOT recommend installing it... if you have anyway to install the official (or even "rooted" 4.0.7 instead!
I will assume you are now installing a "rooted" 4.0.7, and hopefully it is the one I listed above! If so, your tablet should work pretty much just like it would with the original official Archos 4.0.7... or, at least it has so far on my end with only a few odd quirks occasionally, but that's mostly because I did not do a full re-format to get rid of all the extra apps that were installed with the official 4.0.25 I had before.
Hope all goes well with 4.0.7 for you. Got some other info you might be interested in. Let me know how things are working and maybe send a PM, or I can PM you with other info. Either way, hope you get yours working again!
But, then again, if you could get a FULL refund from Archos... in all honesty I'd take the money and run LOL. There are now MUCH BETTER tablets on the market without all the firmware problems... although they may not have ALL the features of an Archos. For example, GPS... not needed on a tablet if you have a newer cellphone/smartphone (which will always have a better GPS than any tablet has).
Using stock 4.0.7 installed some apps and let the tablet sleep for 15 minutes
Came back to wake up the device and I'm greeted by a black screen!
Now I will contact Archos ...
Contacted Archos support telephone line and they recommended upgrading the firmware to 4.0.26!
Well, this is the last thing I will try, I didn't want to use 4.0.26 but would rather the tablet worked than have to consider contacting the supplier for a refund...
I'll see how I get on with 4.0.26 and if I get the same problems I'll have to go back to the supplier for a refund.
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Contacted Archos support telephone line and they recommended upgrading the firmware to 4.0.26!
Well, this is the last thing I will try, I didn't want to use 4.0.26 but would rather the tablet worked than have to consider contacting the supplier for a refund...
I'll see how I get on with 4.0.26 and if I get the same problems I'll have to go back to the supplier for a refund.
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I'm really sorry to hear that!!! REALLY SORRY!
I do wish you luck with getting 4.0.26 to bring the thin back to life, but it sure won't ever be working anywhere near as good as it would have with 4.0.7. I had such high hopes for you, but now I'm really, really sad :crying:
On the other hand, if you can get a refund... grab the money and run! Go get a tablet from some other company that actually knows what they are doing. Hate to say it, and don't really recommend it, but there ARE some Chinese knock offs that are actually better than the junk Archos has been selling lately.
Of course, you sure can not go wrong with a Google Nexus 7 or 10 though. Think about that for a bit... 100% pure Google Android and therefor 100% Google certified. If you want Android, I don't know how you could do any better!
On the other 2 sides of a coin, I simply will NOT buy into the Apple ecosystem (why would anybody ever need a screen that can display almost 4 full 1080p HD videos on it when you can NOT even really see details of just one full 1080p video on a screen that small to start with... too much bogus hype, not anything really useful). Flip coin, despite my ongoing hatred over the years, some of the new Windows 8 devices do look pretty tempting.
Good luck which every way you may end up going. At least it was a little bit of fun while it lasted.
My only trouble with 4.0.26 on one of my previous tablets was really poor battery life.
Well, so far on 4.0.26 the battery life seems normal...
The tablet has gone to sleep a couple of times and woken up again correctly.
Still have loads of apps to install before I'm back to where I was.
I'll just have to see how I go over the next couple of days, the big test will be tomorrow morning after the tablet has been sleeping all night.
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Whilst I agree there are a great many 'better' tablets out there now for the money there are things the Archos does better; SD Card and HDMI out both missing from the Google devices.
And you're absolutely right about the Chinese knock-offs. I bought 4 for my kids for Christmas and am so impressed with them. They are solid, fantastic 4.0.4 firmware; not one crash, no freezes, run all the apps and games my kids can throw at them - and they only cost £50 !
Shame they're only 7" with no Bluetooth and no GPS or I'd get one myself.
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Whilst I agree there are a great many 'better' tablets out there now for the money there are things the Archos does better; SD Card and HDMI out both missing from the Google devices.
And you're absolutely right about the Chinese knock-offs. I bought 4 for my kids for Christmas and am so impressed with them. They are solid, fantastic 4.0.4 firmware; not one crash, no freezes, run all the apps and games my kids can throw at them - and they only cost £50 !
Shame they're only 7" with no Bluetooth and no GPS or I'd get one myself.
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The HDMI out is now pretty common on most devices, although kind of strange that for some reason they use mini-HDMI connectors on tablets, but most new smartphones (due to being smaller overall) have micro-HDMI connectors. No real problem on my end, got adapters for all that sorta stuff.
It's the SD card that nobody wants to include anymore that bugs me though. They all want everything to be out there "in the cloud", which I thinks is really stupid, but of course makes money for everyone else (can't access anything "in the cloud" without paying some kind of Internet connection, and then also have to pay for more storage space is you go beyond some level... everyone pay more in the end, we make lots of money from you foolish people).
As for the Chinese knock-offs... I really wonder what would happen if Apple came out and were honest with people and told all those people the rushed to their Apple stores and paid $600+ that it really only cost Apple about $250 to make them? Then have to pay Apple for whatever music or videos you want, then also have to pay more for extra "cloud" storage space...and you can't do anything without having iTunes installed on your computer (which really sucks for Windows users), and on, and on, and on... I'm sure you can understand why I hate (and refuse to get involved with) that whole Apple ecosystem.
Meanwhile, assuming you do get 4.0.26 up and running there are a number of bugs, flaws, whatever to be aware of with it. The 2 biggest ones are the TOTALLY STUPID stuff with "indexing", and/or even how to ever get any media files to show up in the Archos Video and Music players. The other is the TOTALLY STUPID problems with the battery charging.
I can explain how to (for the most part) get around the battery charging problem for now (until Archos fixes it), but the "indexing" stuff is just way to complicated and confusing for anyone to understand (or at least for anyone that wants to use there tablet like any "normal" person would).
Be back shortly about the charging side of things...
Charging Archos tablets has always seemed to be a bit mess up, but with the 4.0.2x firmware it's gotten totally idiotic. Hopefully Archos will release a newer firmware that fixes this (and also gets rid of that TOTALLY STUPID "indexing" crap that should never ever have been in things to start with...idiotic morons).
Anyway, to get around the flaw with charging here is what I've been doing... actually, more like what I've always been doing, but for some reason nobody else ever does...
0) Do NOT try to charge from a computer USB connection unless you ABSOLUTELY do not have the proper Archos charger. Even then it's still rather foolish and will take forever. So, just DON'T DO IT.
1) Wake up the tablet and/or unlock it so that you are at the home screen. Let it sit for a while and check if the WiFi indicator shows it is connecting and/or syncing, whatever. If/when it's done with that then continue...
2) Plug the USB cable into the Archos charger, and plug the charger into the wall power outlet. Then plug the other end into the microUSB connector on the G9 tablet (of course, the 250GB HD models don't do it this way, but anyway...).
3) Wait a few seconds and watch and see if it shows it is shows it is charging, or if it is shows "slow" charging. If it is in slow charge mode it very likely is not really charging at all. Just unplug the microUSB cable, wait a few seconds, and plug it in again. Do not rush this step. You may have to repeat it a couple of times, but usually it will show fast charge without any further repeats.
4) Now, just do a short quick tap on the power button to put the tablet into sleep mode, and then JUST LEAVE IT ALONE and let it charge. This is where many people seem to just mess up the charging!
If you keep messing around with the tableit, pressing the power button, etc. all you do is confuse the whole system (on top of Archos having royally botched the software for how charging should work in most of their firmware). Just leave the thing alone and let it charge until the power LED starts blinking. Then you can do whatever you want again.
Using the Archos charger, it will normally take about 1 hour for ever 20% of battery charge. Example: If the battery is at 40% it will take about 3 hours to charge up to 100%. From 0 to 100 will take at least 5 hours (very likely longer if you let the battery go that dead).
Do NOT press and hold the power button to ever shut down the tablet while it is plugged in for charging. It WILL warn you that if it shuts down it will not charge. Why so many people can not understand that is beyond me. If you actually try to turn off (or even reboot) while it is plugged in to charge then the whole system, including the charging circuit, will totally shut down (even if the power LED is stays on, it is NOT going to charge in this way). Which is why I repeat, just leave it alone, don't mess with it, and just let it charge. The less YOU mess around with it the faster it WILL charge. Just leave it alone OK.
I've seen some people say they could charge from 80% to 100% from a computer USB connection and that is totally bogus (not to mention totally impossible). That is just one of the flaws in the Archos firmware and you can not trust any such indication at all.
If you ever do see such wild and drastic changes in battery charge level (either upward while charging, or downward while using), then you really should unplug the charger, press and hold the power button to force a complete and total reset and shutdown. Wait about 10 or 15 seconds to let the power drain out of the memory circuits, and then start the tablet up again.
Seems like there are a lot of people with the child in a car syndrome problem "are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet...", and try the same with their Archos tablets by constantly hitting the power button to check if it is charge yet, or trying to do other things, then hit the power button to go back into sleep, then hit it again to check the charge level, and repeat it over and over. BELIEVE ME, none of the Archos firmware (very likely no other Android firmware for that matter) can actually handle all those constant interruptions and still correctly charge the battery.
If you start your car, drive one block, then turn it off, and the keep repeating doing that how far do you really think you will get before the battery in you car goes dead from NOT having enough time to charge properly?
I'm about to give up too. I've had 3 Archos tables so far and I cant believe that the old problems of my Archos 5 internet tablet are present in my Archos G9 80?? Just got it 2 days ago! And the screen goes black then white.. I can still use it if i plug in my HDMI to my monitor, but will never be able to use it on the go.. Time to contact them to see how they will fix this.. If it happens again I'm getting my money back.:crying:
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I'm about to give up too. I've had 3 Archos tables so far and I cant believe that the old problems of my Archos 5 internet tablet are present in my Archos G9 80?? Just got it 2 days ago! And the screen goes black then white.. I can still use it if i plug in my HDMI to my monitor, but will never be able to use it on the go.. Time to contact them to see how they will fix this.. If it happens again I'm getting my money back.:crying:
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Which firmware version do you have?
I've found that the ONLY Archos firmware that works anywhere near correctly on either the 80 or 101 G9 tablets is 3.2.80 or 4.0.7.
If you upgraded to either 4.0.24 (which bricked a bunch of 101's btw), or 4.0.25... well, BOTH of those (don't care if it's official from Archos any any "rooted" version from here or elsewhere) are pure garbage! In which case, upgrade to 4.0.26, which still has many bugs that need to be fixed, but is a least half-way usable (until Archos releases a newer firmware upgrade).
Really sucks that Archos does not provide a way to downgrade back to a previous (working) firmware. If you've already upgrade to any of the Archos 4.0.2x versions, then your only hope to get a fully functional device (for now, until Arhcos fixes their firmware) may be:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35770625&postcount=118
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Meanwhile, I'm pretty close to giving up also, but...
I'm going to buy ONE LAST ARCHOS PRODUCT and not going to waste any time thinking about any other product from Archos for at least 6 months. From what I've seen it takes them at least that long to ever get any firmware even close to working correctly on any new device.
So, what I'm thinking of doing is purchasing an (older) 1.2GHZ Turbo 80 G9 with 16Gig memory (don't care if it has only 512Meg system RAM). Hopefully it will come with older Honeycomb firmware. Then, I'll upgrade it to 4.0.7 (only because I want the Xbox USB controller functionality). The goal is to have a "functional" tablet that has enough memory to install all of the main games I want that can work with the Xbox USB controller, and still have some room left for a few other things. Really can't do much with 8GB devices with games that range from 400Meg to 2GB now anymore (don't know why Archos has not been making more 16GB, or better yet 32GB devices).
Then, my current "classic" 80 G9 will get changed down to (even though I do not want or have any need for "root") to a rooted 3.280, and I'll just let my 101 G9 float between testing any new firmware from Archos and rooted 4.0.7.
Beyond that, I really doubt if I'll ever buy another Archos product. There are just too many far better devices coming out now that do not cost much more... and do NOT have to mess around with multiple releases of faulty firmware on them either (most of them seem to work right out of the box... I haven't had an Archos device that ever has).
So, guess I'm jumping ship also.
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Whilst I agree there are a great many 'better' tablets out there now for the money there are things the Archos does better; SD Card and HDMI out both missing from the Google devices.
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The goal these days now seems to be to get everyone using "cloud" storage. As such, most companies tend to make devices now with less memory instead of more (which we all really want). Of course, that's all just to make more money... offer X amount of "cloud" storage and then charge extra for more beyond that point. And, it solves the whole DRM protection battle since nobody actually has any copy of anything on their device at all anymore (and can only be viewed/played on the specific device you "registered"... uhm, rather "paid" to allow it to).
[HINT: That's also the only REAL reason TV changed to "digital". It's not that they could not provide HD with analog if THEY actually wanted to, but rather they could not "control", limit, and charge for each time you view something... That's the real goal of Digital TV]
And, of course, since everything you do will then also require some kind of digital or "data" connection, that also makes more money for the Internet, cellular, cable, or satelite service providers... all of which charge overly high prices for things that should now be dirt cheap (from a technological standpoint).
Oh well, until people quite paying $600 for cellphones that do not cost much more then $150 to make...not much I can do about it. However, those days ARE going to come to an end shortly because people simply will not be able to pay all those extra expenses. Just another temporary thing like running up multiple credit cards until they can't pay for them all.
Well it's been just over a week running 4.0.26 and the tablet has been fine!
No more wake issues. :beer:
RAM usage is slightly higher so I do need to kill unneeded processes occasionally.
Strange that the issue is fixed (not complaining) as there was nothing in the patch notes about this issue and I've seen nobody else reporting similar.
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Well it's been just over a week running 4.0.26 and the tablet has been fine!
No more wake issues. :beer:
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Although I have read of others having the screen stay black/blank on wake up, I really have never had that problem with any firmware version on my Archos tablets Could be something due to the many changes in hardware they have made (all with the same G9 model name). Or, maybe some bad apps or task killer (task killers actually create far more problems than the solve anyway).
RAM usage is slightly higher so I do need to kill unneeded processes occasionally.
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Part of that is simply due to Google having added more of their own junk into Android that seems to always want to keep running in the background (syncing for Chrome, Google+, etc.). Then, on top of that, Archos has added in some really freaky stuff for their "MediaCenter" and "file indexing" that is really messing things up!
On a device with PROPERLY WORKING ANDROID FIRMWARE you should never have to ever kill any background tasks. That is what the memory management is supposed to be taking care of by itself in Android. However, I do not think Archos has fully fixed the memory management problems yet with 4.0.26. Hopefully things will be better in whatever newer firmware they release.
People with the newer Archos tablets that have 1GB of RAM do not seem to notice the memory management flaws, but it is something that causes a lot of problems for those of us with the older "classic" models that have only 512M of RAM.
[Side Comment: And with all the extra stuff Google has been adding into things I really do not see Jelly Bean ever working correctly on any device with only 512M RAM. Even ICS barely works with less than 1GB RAM. Some companies are already making devices with 2GB RAM just to stay ahead of whatever Google may come up with in the future.]
Strange that the issue is fixed (not complaining) as there was nothing in the patch notes about this issue and I've seen nobody else reporting similar.
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Not sure just why you (and a few others) ever had that problem to start with, but hopefully you can now limp along somehow until Archos releases a newer firmware.
On my end, here the problems I've found with the "official" Archos 4.0.26 (including even with a test release they had e-mailed me a link to try out):
1) Problems with graphics in certain games (ShadowGun and Max Payne). I've posted a YouTube video of that http://youtu.be/qQjMhykykxw
2) Sound does not work after some point in playing the game Asphalt 7.
3) There is no up/down arrow notification WHILE a Bluetooth transfer is in progress, so you can not tell if it actually is transferring... nor can you check how far it is in the process. Only displays a notification AFTER the transfer completes (or fails).
4) Whatever this stupid "file indexing" is... it starts up for NO LOGICAL REASON especially right in the middle of installing certain apps... mostly games that may have sound or video files as part of them. Also...
5) Whatever the new stupid things added in to "MediaCenter" and "file indexing" cause everything else to slow down to a snail's pace and/or cause the device to run out of RAM... causing crashing problems, or else making the device just about totally un-usable until it finish whatever that "indexing" crap is trying to do.
6) Not sure if it is from the above, but random crashes still occur out of nowhere for no reason. So, I don't think they have the memory management totally fixed yet either.
7) Because of things crashing in the background, the battery level and any charging is still not working correctly either.
If you REALLY only have had a problem with the screen being black/blank on wake up... well, guess you really do not do as many things with your tablet as I do. There are a bunch of flaws Archos still needs to fix in the next firmware release BEFORE I will ever install it. Although I do NOT need/want "root" I'm staying with the rooted stock 4.0.7 until Archos fixes things in their official firmware.
I'm hoping for a new firmware about middle or late January, but who knows if/when it may happen.
Anyway, glad you are having better luck on your end now. Seems to depend on if you have 1GB RAM or not, and oddly the 80 G9's seem to work a bit better than the 101 G9's do for some reason (or at least with my older "classic" models anyway).
Unbelievable! Tablet was asleep for an hour or so on my desk at work, went to wake it up and the screen remained black again!
Had to tap the power button several times before the screen would awake. Seems like it's nothing to do with firmware after all. went for over a week this time.
Spoke to Archos : this time they will send a courier to collect the tablet and replace it. Then I will stick with 4.0.7 ...
If this next FOURTH tablet is also faulty then I will definitely be requesting a refund and moving over to a different make.
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Unbelievable! Tablet was asleep for an hour or so on my desk at work, went to wake it up and the screen remained black again!
Had to tap the power button several times before the screen would awake. Seems like it's nothing to do with firmware after all. went for over a week this time.
Spoke to Archos : this time they will send a courier to collect the tablet and replace it. Then I will stick with 4.0.7 ...
If this next FOURTH tablet is also faulty then I will definitely be requesting a refund and moving over to a different make.
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9
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It pains me to say this but Archos sucks. I got a Nexus 7 for Christmas and it is fantastic
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Unbelievable! Tablet was asleep for an hour or so on my desk at work, went to wake it up and the screen remained black again!
Had to tap the power button several times before the screen would awake. Seems like it's nothing to do with firmware after all. went for over a week this time.
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Are you sure it was not just being slow about waking up. I read of others saying it would take up to half a minute (or more ) to wake up with 4.0.26 depending on if they had a 3G Stick or any other USB devices connected (either via back 3G port or microUSB host port), or maybe even also if there was a microSD card plugged in.
Heck, even without those, the stupid file 'indexing' crap in 4.0.26 can still slow things down if you have any media files on the internal memory. Until Archos fixes that stuff I don't even bother plugging in any USB device or microSD card unless I absolutely have to (and definitely not anything that has any picture, music, or video files on it).
Spoke to Archos : this time they will send a courier to collect the tablet and replace it. Then I will stick with 4.0.7 ...
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That's assuming the one they return does not already have 4.0.26 on it. I hope you told them you did not want that!
If this next FOURTH tablet is also faulty then I will definitely be requesting a refund and moving over to a different make.
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Really sorry to hear you've had so much bad luck with Archos. I've got 6 Archos devices and have only had problems with the firmware on them (except for one that I broke the microUSB connector on, and that was my own fault).
So, on my end, the only real complaint is the horribly buggy bad firmware Archos keeps releasing + the six months more of multiple firmware upgrades before they get anything to work right again! I've gone through about 18 firmware versions (counting all the test releases) in about one year. That's just insane! Only good ones out of the bunch were the last of each set... 3.2.80 and 4.0.7. Still waiting for them to fix the 4.0.2x mess they made!
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Are you sure it was not just being slow about waking up. I read of others saying it would take up to half a minute (or more ) to wake up with 4.0.26 depending on if they had a 3G Stick or any other USB devices connected (either via back 3G port or microUSB host port), or maybe even also if there was a microSD card plugged in.
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Don't forget it was behaving this way on 4.0.7 too. The backlight activates but the display remains black. Several presses of the power button are needed to properly wake the tablet.
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Don't forget it was behaving this way on 4.0.7 too. The backlight activates but the display remains black. Several presses of the power button are needed to properly wake the tablet.
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Not saying there may not be a hardware problem, but.. It almost sounds like there is something else going on.
If you can, send me a PM listing all the apps and widgets you are using, and also a rough list of what media files (and if they are stored on internal, or an external microSD card or USB device). Also, let me know if you use any other USB host devices or Bluetooth devices.
Then maybe I can try to set mine up similar to how you are using yours to find out if mine ends up with the same problem.
Well my replacement tablet finally arrived yesterday and so last night I spent a while installing apps and testing.
Imagine how disappointed I was when I realised this tablet suffered from the dreaded GPS failure!
So this was the 4th tablet; each had a different fault.
I have contacted Archos (again) and this time they gave me some great news!!! I will post back when I receive ....
So I had a cord working for some time with a different Moto 360 I moved things around and could not connect for the life of me. So I swapped watches at Best Buy thinking I messed it up some how. Now I have a New one and I want to Unlock the bootloader to force the update via shell and I cont get this thing to mount for the life of me it acts like it mounting every time and error unknown USB device and I know my drivers are installed right because I already went though this. I would love some pic of different Modded USB cables and or what you guys have used to mount via usb and I would love some advice. I was going to sen one to someone else because I had them working and now I don't know what it up. Thanks any help or advise is welcomed .
I have tested every cord I have tried to use with a Multimeter.
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So I had a cord working for some time with a different Moto 360 I moved things around and could not connect for the life of me. So I swapped watches at Best Buy thinking I messed it up some how. Now I have a New one and I want to Unlock the bootloader to force the update via shell and I cont get this thing to mount for the life of me it acts like it mounting every time and error unknown USB device and I know my drivers are installed right because I already went though this. I would love some pic of different Modded USB cables and or what you guys have used to mount via usb and I would love some advice. I was going to sen one to someone else because I had them working and now I don't know what it up. Thanks any help or advise is welcomed .
I have tested every cord I have tried to use with a Multimeter.
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Take a look here, maybe contact someone here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2888882
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Nice thanks . I actually got it figured out today but I searched High and low and didn't see that thread but I guess since I had watched the video a few times like 25x lol and read all kinds if comments on it but even though o got it today I still would love to get a more stable dock going
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how you figured it out??? I'm currently facing same issue... it's showing Unknown Device... I tried to update drive but can't.. maybe you could post your solution here... might help me and others in future... Thanks!
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how you figured it out??? I'm currently facing same issue... it's showing Unknown Device... I tried to update drive but can't.. maybe you could post your solution here... might help me and others in future... Thanks!
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Well I spent hours of messing with it but try using like a tooth pick to help make sure the pins are in the hole also double lapping the wires in the Cat 5 helped. I will have it working fine and then it will go on the fritz I recently dissed Windows in a whole and went to Linux mint witch I have had way less problems until today with a unrelated problem.
Anyone know a place where can buy one allready made? Thx