some questions about ascend p6 - Huawei Ascend P6, Mate

hey guys,
i've been doing some reading on xda for the past few days to determine wich phone i should buy.
my choices are lg nexus 4 and offcourse the huawei ascend p6.
my first thought is to go for the nexus but as it's quite old it's hard to get (with carrier/provider subscription). it's possible but i have to choose a provider with wich i have serious doubts.
in that matter the huawei has better options for me.
but i'm not 100% convinced to buy this phone but i'm sure it has got great potential. i also really like to use custom roms and kernels.
the bootloader..
i've read that it's unlocked but has got some kind of encryption so in some way's you can say it's still locked.
though i've seen that recently there is a custom kernel available.. so does that mean that flashing custom kernels is possible?
(if i would buy a huawei it would be a european version btw)
i'm starting to understand you need to be on a CN version/unlocked firmware in order to flash custom kernels. what does that mean? does it mean you need to be on the chinese versions?
and what about going from european firmware to chinese? is this possible without problems/bricks?
one other great thing about this phone that it's getting that 4.4 update. is there any news that this new firmware will be open source?
i've also read that there is going to be a google edition of the p6 wich means a clean android version, wich means open source?? please correct me if i'm wrong!
my first impression reading this section is great, i see some dev's that really are putting a lot of time and effort in developing this phone.
i have also seen that the p6 had some bugs when it's launched but many of them are repaired by stock firmware updates wich is a good thing.
hopefully you can help me a little bit so i can make my choice..
many thanks in advance!

Pollie81 said:
hey guys,
i've been doing some reading on xda for the past few days to determine wich phone i should buy.
my choices are lg nexus 4 and offcourse the huawei ascend p6.
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Hi,
I cannot answer your questions, I just have laid my hands on a P6. I'm coming from an SGS2 (I still use that one)
My initial impressions of the P6 are mixed.
I like the thinness. I love the material (there are only a few metallic Android phones out there). I love the speed.
However, I do not like Huawei's ROM. The user interface is more like iOS, so I installed NovaLauncher, it makes life better But it looks to me that some important Android features are absent. For example, the native Android SIP client seems to be inaccessible (or is it just me not finding it?) HW wise, having the USB/charger socket at the top of the device rather than the bottom is really clumsy. The device can get uncomfortably hot during usage.
I am tempted to try a different ROM until Huawei comes out with a KitKat update,

never mind..
my first thought went to the Nexus 4 and today I've discovered it had the best deal for me.
i had to pay extra for the ascend p6 were the Nexus 4 was free in combination with my carrier subscription.
so the choice was pretty easy.. the Nexus 4 it is..

I have it running on HYDROM, and batt. life increased a lot. Really love my P6 (coming from iPhone).

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Thinking of buying this instead of a G3.

Hey,
so I just watched a review about the Oppo Find 7a. And I have to say that it I felt in love with it.
First I wanted to buy a LG-G3 because of its awesomeness, but know that I found the Find 7, I feel like I should buy this instead of the G3.
But there are a few things that I'd like to ask you before.
- Where's the difference between the 7 and the 7a? I heard the 7a owns a slower CPU/GPU, a smaller battery and a smaller resolution. And I also heard that the 7a seems to have the better display, because its more saturated, brighter and overall the viewing experience should be better than on the 7. Is that right?
- Will there be custom roms? I think I won't like the ColorOS, because I'm using "stock" android since 2 years now and I got pretty used to it. So I'd like to flash a custom rom, running KK4.4.2 (Omni,CM, ..). What do you think?
There are many things that I like on the 7 (MaxxSound, SD Slot, ..) that the G3 will not own. I am pretty unsure if I go with the G3 to get guaranteed custom roms and take out that it doesn't have such nice features as the 7, or I go with the 7 and maybe don't get custom roms :/ Whats your opinion?
for the differences between 7a and 7 is best to check here:
http://en.oppo.com/products/find7/#find7-specs
difficult to compare displays at this point because find 7 is not available yet. I saw that article with display comparison somewhere on the net, but these were pre-production units ant things may change by the time find 7 is available
custom roms for find 7a are already available (cm 11s port, gummy rom, omni, I heard MIUI will be available) so am sure that find 7 will get them too...
I switched from LG G2 to find 7a and must say I do not regret it..display is great, sound as well, phone is snappy...
was just one of that unlucky guys which got units with yellow tint at the bottom of the screen. but have already contacted oppostyle and agreed with them that if the tint will not go away within one week, they will replace the phone
hi,
I bought my selve a find 7a and i can tell you that it is one of the better phones i have owned.
personally i think that on this moment the 1440p screen in the find 7 will be to demanding for other internal components.
and about the roms, i've been flashing some now and ican tell you that even in this beta stage, they all run almost flawless.
i wish you good luck deciding.
The find 7a has some great hardware but so far was a mediocre choice in terms of software.
Thanks to the recent wave of custom ROM goodness though it's become a extremely viable option.
IMO the hardware is solid and holds its own with anything available now, the software not so much. I cant say for certain but IMO the alpha roms all of which I have now tried show extremely great promise and its my belief that the software side of the equation will be as solid as the hardware sooner rather than later. I would say that were I on the fence now I would wait for the 7 to get a little closer before I bought in. It may be you want to go that way (or not) and you will have answers very soon on the worthiness of the upgrade from 7A.
Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it
furiify said:
Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it
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Well, there are multiple reports suggesting that the G3 will have a microSD slot. I mean.. it will most probably support UHD recording.. and where do you expect anyone to store all that data?
Not so familiar with MaxxSound, but I tested the 7a a few days ago and I was super pleased, just as tested by GSMarena.
As for G3, there are reports on it having a 1W speaker, and that's gonna be loud too.
So.. IF what I said were to be true, then the G3 being a smaller (and possibly lighter) device would be a winner. End of the day, the cost also matters.
Waiting for announcement here as well...
Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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I don't think that it is so hard to add it to a custom rom or is it? I mean ROM-makers do/did incredible stuff.
Awaiting today's LG-G3 livestream presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPZO2fcAUo
just seen a video for g3 and it looks stunning

[Q] Few questions about the N3N

Hello everyone!
So I'm looking at a new device, probably gonna get a new one later this year or beginning of next one. Currently this N3N is the one I have on first palce on my list, mainly for that awesome battery life and for being Samsung. Also this device has a great price-value rate here currently and price will even drop after Note 4 gets available. I have a few questions before I can be sure about getting the device though.
1. Isn't it too huge? I have a 4.7 inch device now, kinda convenient. Tried Note 3 before, surprisingly that 5.7 inch didn't feel too big, but still, I can't think about how I could handle something over 5 inches. Is it possible to use it one-handed in fullscreen mode (I mean without using the one-handed mode feature)? Can I reach all parts with my thumb if holding the device in hand?
2. Battery life <--> performance: The Exynos hexa-core chipset looks promising, is it really capable of handling a good balance between performance and battery life? I read amazing battery life results in that thread and didn't read any issues about performance. Any lags, stutters?
3. Are there any currently known ways of rooting without tripping Knox? I don't want to flash a custom rom (nor custom recovery) first, but rooting and removing all bloatware would be essential. Towelroot doesn't work: more people reported it doesn't and I checked the kernel and the futex patch is applied. Newer exploits might work (in the future), because no Samsung-made hardening code is enabled according to the kernel (the code is there, it just isn't enabled). Of course there is CF Auto-Root, but that's a no-go, because of Knox.
4. Does Xposed Framework work well? Some users wrote it does so I guess yes.
5. Does the S Pen fit correctly? I don't want to lose it when going around. Is it useful? I don't think I'm gonna use it a lot, but who knows!
6. Anybody tried S View Cover? I see it exists, still don't know if I want one, just asking.
7. Is there a binary counter, same as on older Samsung devices? What stuff is there in bootloader at all?
8. Is there an activation lock, like on Note 3? Like you can only activate it where you bought it.
I probably will have more questions over time as I get to know things, will ask them then.
Thanks in advance!
Hey Adam this is Kaushal from galaxy r forum
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All your questions will be answered by me! .
First: phone isn't too big it has smaller body than n2 and n3. I can use it one handed.
Second: there is no rooting without tripping knox . you are the only one who can do it without tripping Knox.
Thirderformance is great but will be greater if bloat is removed.
Fourth:s-pen fits perfectly. You can even use n3 s-pen if you lost your one which came with n3n. I personally tested it.
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Hey Kaushal, thanks for the answers! The thing is, I'm not sure I want to buy the device until I know there's a safe rooting method for sure. :/ Downloaded the stock firmware today, gonna look around in there to see.
Hi Adam,
Haven't you been deeply involved in the LG 4x hd development?
I owned one but after i had lost it i went on to the note 3 neo.
I'm very happy with the phone. Too big for using it with one hand (for me).
Battery - performance ratio is superb. Battery is down to 4% now after 2d 5h and around 6,25h screen on.
I haven't rooted because of knox right now.
Waiting for an method without tripping it.
The pen comes in very handsome from time to time if you need to write down sth quickly or if you need to write longer texts.
Hopefully you decide to buy a note 3 neo.
Perhaps you can unleash some more potential of the device
Got it for 299€.
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Hello Adam,
Last month I bought a Note 3 Neo, as my first android device. I have been a long time iOS user. To be honest the machine surprised me. I realy love it, especialy the battery life. For me as well I get around 2 days without any problems.
One hand using is impossible for me too, but it doesnt disturb me, at least knowing that it is impossible, now I drive more safely since I dont try to answer a message..etc
I've rooted it two days ago but yeh I 've ruined the warranthy, but anyways I am not an experienced Android user, so if there was a way to do it without ruining the warranthy, I dont know.
Xposed Framework works well, I mean I installed it then I installed Wanam Xposed and it works very well.
Yes S-Pen fits perfectly, actualy i love using it for sketches while waiting people..etc, powerful enough for thumbnail sketching.
On 17th October I bought the Note 4, even tho it feels a higher quality, it feels also bulkier than the Note 3 Neo, and I miss the soft home button of the N3N, of course the hardware is much better and the screen quality, but i find out using my n3n at home time to time to browse internet when i am at home (without sim card ) more than the N4. So I would definitely advice you to buy one, May be you can check also the N3 since I think that the price will go down soon, and it is as good as N4 (more or less) and in my opinion has a prettier design.
Yes, I was developing for the O4X, still using the device, but need a change soon, that's why looking at the N3N too.
Regarding size I really have to try N3 again so I can experience it properly.
The problem with the whole Knox thing is that still we won't be able to flash real custom recoveries and kernels without tripping Knox. Of course we could use modules, but it's not the same as having a whole custom-built kernel.
What ?!?!? @Adam77Root here ?!?!?
Great news ! I'm happy to see you here.
My previous phone was a O4X and I followed your developement.
Here's the answer (compared to O4X) :
1 - It's all about the time,first days the phone seems a bit huge but now o4x seems really smal and the size of n3n it's ok.
If you don't have a small hand,you can use it without problems (i can reach the top of the screen with the thumb quite easily)
2 - Battery life is amazing compared to o4x (6-8 or even 10 hours screen on time and from 1 to 3 days of total usage,100% to 5%).Performance for now are great but o4x with a custom rom seems a bit faster but whit that battery life,trust me i'ts a different world.
Lags : no lags or not so visible IMHO
3 - Not already rooted so I don't know
4 - as 3 -
5 - yes,it is well fitted in the phone
6 - not tried 'cause I don't like so much and the original one it cost too much for me lol
7 - I can't answer to that question
8 - Ehm...what ? LOL
If you have some more questions,just ask
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8 - Ehm...what ? LOL
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On the Note 3, you have to activate the device before first use and on the majority of devices it has to be done in the same region (AFAIK network check is done) where it was bought, other devices (the minority) don't have the lock.
ok...I bought it in Italy on a local store for 280€ so it's not imported and it is not branded : I just paid it and I put my micro-sim card on it,I did't have to activate the phone.
On an italian forum I read that some people bought it on the web and sometimes the phone is not "italian" but is "imported" but the users use the phone without problems.
I suggest you to ask to someone that lives in your country.
Guys, does the device have FM radio?
Adam77Root said:
Guys, does the device have FM radio?
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No!
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Thinking about buying the LG G4.. how stable are the custom roms?

So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those
Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.
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So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg
There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...
personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.
I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
Overlord Yuri said:
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.
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Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....
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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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Help me decide!

Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
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Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
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Hello Eduard
#1: My xiaomi experience is : 4 redmi note 2 prime, 2 mi4c, 1 redmi and 3 Mi 5s (children, friend and me). All products work 's fine. I replaced screen on redmi note 2 & mi4c without issues.
#2 Mi 5s is my daily phone (4gb/128). I come from nexus 5 (3 years old) and galaxy s7 (1 month with it, really bad phone (my opinion)).
Mi 5s is really good, just missing qi charging (for my car...)
If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
#3 all my xiaomi are ordered from smartophone.com . Really trusted seller.
Sorry for my english (French)
Bets regards
Christophe
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If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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I have few Xioami phones and I'm really happy with the hardware and if you are not very picky MIUI will be good for you. Currently I'm using Mi5s and it works OK, however I would like to geta global ROM o CM ROM.
From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
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From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
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Well explained mate

Lenovo P2 - a good choice?

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Lenovo P2 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. How is the bootloader unlock procedure? Is it known to be problematic or causing any issues with ultimately not being able to unlock the bootloader? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful regarding this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Lenovo P2 a viable choice in this regard? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device in the coming years?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Is there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
1) submit unlock request through the phone and the bootloader should be unlocked 14 days later.
2) original ROM support - highly unlikely. Custom ROM - depends on how well received the phone is by the community. Might be too early to tell still. Performance etc, I don't think any high-end phone from 3-4 years ago can compete with mid range phone's today. So I can only imagine P2 being as sluggish as entry level phones today in 3-4 years.
3) can't comment. If you want custom ROM support, flagship Samsung and Nexus might be a better option?
4) battery life is exceptional, but I really wish it was smaller. The camera is not excellent either.
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Are you planning to use this phone in the USA? If yes, don't purchase it. The us networks are not supported.
ken218 said:
1) submit unlock request through the phone and the bootloader should be unlocked 14 days later.
2) original ROM support - highly unlikely. Custom ROM - depends on how well received the phone is by the community. Might be too early to tell still. Performance etc, I don't think any high-end phone from 3-4 years ago can compete with mid range phone's today. So I can only imagine P2 being as sluggish as entry level phones today in 3-4 years.
3) can't comment. If you want custom ROM support, flagship Samsung and Nexus might be a better option?
4) battery life is exceptional, but I really wish it was smaller. The camera is not excellent either.
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Thank you for the answer, very much appreciated.
I'm aware that it probably won't get official ROM support, but I hope that custom ROMs will be usable, i.e. that all the issues like the fingerprint scanner and notification LED will be fixed.
Most of the Nexus options are overpriced where I live, but maybe Nexus 6 could be an option(?).
Rom Support and reception seems to be starting well 2 months from this conversation... don't you think ?
(that's what made me buy it + full french 4G support)...
Fobos531 said:
Thank you for the answer, very much appreciated.
I'm aware that it probably won't get official ROM support, but I hope that custom ROMs will be usable, i.e. that all the issues like the fingerprint scanner and notification LED will be fixed.
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Let me put it this way: I still use my old Note 3 as remote control for Xiaomi Smart Home. It runs on last official Android 5.1. All those custom ROMs are crap. Nothing just headache.
Its a great budget phone

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