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[Q] How well do you think the Find 7a will be supported by the community?

This is my first Oppo phone, soon to be delivered and I was wondering if you guys think (or know) if the 7a will be supported with many custom ROMs?
I've got a flashing trigger finger and love trying out new ROMs so my fingers are crossed that it'll have a few to try in due course!
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Simmster said:
This is my first Oppo phone, soon to be delivered and I was wondering if you guys think (or know) if the 7a will be supported with many custom ROMs?
I've got a flashing trigger finger and love trying out new ROMs so my fingers are crossed that it'll have a few to try in due course!
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Not sure if "many", but Omni is already in works and rumors are that CyanogenMod is in development as well...
MIUI is expected to be released as well... (Find 5 is officially supported, so Find 7 may be officially supported as well)

andriman said:
Not sure if "many", but Omni is already in works and rumors are that CyanogenMod is in development as well...
MIUI is expected to be released as well... (Find 5 is officially supported, so Find 7 may be officially supported as well)
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Well we know Omni is coming for sure, and once that is out the others will start flowing based on Omnis device tree / kernel.
So most likely CM and / or a CM / Omni based MIUI port somewhere down the road.

Perfect, thanks for the info guys!

Simmster said:
This is my first Oppo phone, soon to be delivered and I was wondering if you guys think (or know) if the 7a will be supported with many custom ROMs?
I've got a flashing trigger finger and love trying out new ROMs so my fingers are crossed that it'll have a few to try in due course!
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Find 5 and Oppo N1 don't seem to have many roms..

The Omni guys and the PA guys have been coordinating on bringup.
We had stalled with almost no progress for a few days but I think I figured out what was wrong and hopefully progress will resume in a day or two.

Entropy512 said:
The Omni guys and the PA guys have been coordinating on bringup.
We had stalled with almost no progress for a few days but I think I figured out what was wrong and hopefully progress will resume in a day or two.
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Excellent news!
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Pretty much current state of Omni:
Camera is 100% broken - my top priority now
Mic in speaker calls is broken. non-speaker calls work OK, so does Bluetooth in calls. Basic audio works, but haven't tested it too much.
Internal SD is a bit flaky, I think I know what I need to do in order to make it solid but I just need more time.
I'm having a lot of spontaneous reboots in deep sleep. It's some sort of suspend/resume bug, as there's nothing in last_kmsg other than it going into suspend and never coming out (except via a crash reboot). This may be due to some changes the PA guys sent to attempt to improve power management.

Sounds like you are making a whole lot of progress.
It fills my eyes with tears reading this.
One step closer to omni goodness.

Looking forward to try omni rom. Any news if omni rom will support vooc charging and maxxaudio? Thats kinda all i need from stock rom, and camera quality

Eh, is Maxx anything really besides a system EQ?
VOOC would be key, I wonder what controls that.
Camera quality doesn't change (much), they would both call the same functions to the hardware. Just the interface and options (HD stitching, slow motion, scenes...).

I will take Omni over that glitched mess called ColorOS any day.

seanpr123 said:
Eh, is Maxx anything really besides a system EQ?
VOOC would be key, I wonder what controls that.
Camera quality doesn't change (much), they would both call the same functions to the hardware. Just the interface and options (HD stitching, slow motion, scenes...).
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Well there was a lot difference on the find5 in coloros and omni
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With a custom ROM would it theoretically be possible to get rid of the limit of 3gb-ish for installed apps?
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markic22 said:
Looking forward to try omni rom. Any news if omni rom will support vooc charging and maxxaudio? Thats kinda all i need from stock rom, and camera quality
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The VOOC charging has nothing to do with software.
I'd really love to flash OMNI or CM into my Find 7a but i really like the features that Color OS has, such as the off screen gestures and the double tap the home button to wake the phone. I'd really love to see the dev teams port those features to the ROMs, maybe Entropy can enlighten me on this.

I don't know about omni supporting screen off, but we should see a cm11-S port for the F7a I would imagine. As they're almost identical, it shouldn't be a huge stretch to make it happen.

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I don't know about omni supporting screen off, but we should see a cm11-S port for the F7a I would imagine. As they're almost identical, it shouldn't be a huge stretch to make it happen.
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That's what i've been thinking since the start. The hardware is almost identical apart from the sd card slot, a slightly slower CPU and 1GB less of RAM, but i don't know if the unified storage in the OPO would conflict with the stupid partitioning in the Finda 7/7a when porting. The perfect outcome would be having CM11S turn the Find 7a into an unified storage device.
I think it will be really difficult porting CM11S to the Find 7 due to the QHD screen, but still, the hardware is identical to the OPO apart from the sd card slot and the panel.
I don't know, but i think we will see stables for 7a much sooner and its big brother.

migueldias94 said:
That's what i've been thinking since the start. The hardware is almost identical apart from the sd card slot, a slightly slower CPU and 1GB less of RAM, but i don't know if the unified storage in the OPO would conflict with the stupid partitioning in the Finda 7/7a when porting. The perfect outcome would be having CM11S turn the Find 7a into an unified storage device.
I think it will be really difficult porting CM11S to the Find 7 due to the QHD screen, but still, the hardware is identical to the OPO apart from the sd card slot and the panel.
I don't know, but i think we will see stables for 7a much sooner and its big brother.
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Yeah, maybe some Dev will come out with a partitioning script we could run that would change it from Oppo to unified. As far as the QHD, doesn't matter. The color OS Roms flash from 7a to 7 and back according to Oppo forums.
Honestly, if we change our partitioning we should be able to flash straight cm11s for the OPO, with a F7 kernel. That's what I'm guessing at least based off what I've seen on this forum and Oppo's.

Ya'll know that partitioning can be dicey I expect which is why you seldom see it happen. Its not really the partitioning itself, its the high number of people who cant follow simple instructions and screw up the partitioning thats the problem. At any rate I think more likely you are going to see a logical drive rather than partitioning if I had to guess. I believe that you may see omni support some of the gestures stuff in the future as CM is supporting some over on its close relative.
Realistically when I look at the state of 1.2 and the 2.0 beta color roms I think our best hope for the future lies here with entropy and company.

krabman said:
Realistically when I look at the state of 1.2 and the 2.0 beta color roms I think our best hope for the future lies here with entropy and company.
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Couldn't agree more.

[Q] Moto X 2014 or Oppo Find 7a?

Hi,
I was all set to buy the Oppo Find 7a, and then the Moto X 2014 got released. Now i'm in two minds. I'm looking for a good camera and a good battery. HELP!

Oppo find 7a is still on jellybean 4.3. From what i have seen motorola's support for devices is better and have the mist recent android. Since it is almost stock android software experience is much better.
I have been using oppo find 7a since may. Color os which it is shipped with, is a fork of android 4.3 and is buggy. Only redeeming factors are an awesome camera app and maxxaudio. Additionally coloros also drains battery. I have been using cm11 for almost a month. With viper i dont miss maxxaudio. Still looking for a good camera app.
On the other there are a bunch of custom roms to choose from if you wish to go that route.
Given my experience i would choose the moto x for a better software experience. .
Not sure where you are located. One more reason for me to choose oppo was their support for td lte, 2300 MHz which airtel uses.

I would wait till reviews tell how well the 2300mah battery will fair in day to day use. The oppo is not the best, but it has a user replaceable battery.
I am all about the find 7 camera. I could not accept anything less.
I completely agree with the software on the moto. Much nicer than oppo. I am on 1.2.5i due to touch issues and do not have bugs. I do miss my nexus 4 though.
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What about Touchless Controls? Ofcouse, the Moto X has awesome touchless controls. I've heard that Oppo find 7a also has touchless controls, does it really work?

Why only between the 2? Have you considered other phones? Xiomi's MI4 is a good deal with similar hardware as the find 7a but costs a lot less. You have waited so far... You can probably wait for the new Nexus.

Moto X is a great phone but I love my Find 7a, I got it a few days ago and the camera is really great, especially Ultra-HD mode and slow shutter mode. Big phone though. Software is getting a major update to Kitkat with many fixes and improvements to Color OS in the next few weeks. Or you can just install the beta and enjoy it now.
The battery on my Find 7a lasts about as much as my LG G2 that runs kitkat, so that tells you that it's really good.

If you want the latest software updates, definitely Moto X. Both cameras are 13mp, so they should be similar, but I've never used those phones, so I don't know which one works better. The oppo 7a has more battery capacity, but with the larger screen and software overlay, I can't tell you which actually lasts longer. The moto x uses a nearly stock software, which is really good, and you can customise it with moto maker. The best idea is to try both phones, if you know people who have them, or look up a review or comparison on YouTube.

Definitely Find 7a is a better phone.
Review of Moto X by GSMArena is out today.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_2014-review-1136.php

Got the Oppo Find 7a
Thanks guys. I went ahead bought a Find 7a.

sandeep.jacob said:
Thanks guys. I went ahead bought a Find 7a.
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Yay , did you get it yet? Which color did you order?

Ramsey said:
Yay , did you get it yet? Which color did you order?
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Yup i got it. I got the astro black one!

Might buy D851: Looking for opinions

Hi folks,
I just dropped my Samsung S4 and cracked the screen. :crying: It still works, but it's time to move on. I never buy new / latest devices; instead I wait and buy last year's model from Swappa or the like, selling my old phone to partially subsidize the purchase. Looks like my S4 is going to the Boneyard.
What I've been looking for is a 2014 model, 5.5" screen, rootable/unlocked bootloader (I like custom ROMs :good: ), phone with a multicolor notification light and good battery. Was thinking to go up to Nexus 6 but it's just too big for me.
The LG G3 looks just about perfect. I've spent the last hour reading up on it. The T-Mo version should work fine for my AT&T service, and it comes unlocked, both SIM and Bootloader. Can any ATT users attest to the phone working well on that network? (EDIT: I googled a bit and found it works fine)
There seems to be plenty of development, though surprisingly I don't see a plain vanilla GPE 5.1.1 ROM out there. Most of the development I see seems to be around AOSP (I'm a fan of SlimROMs and have had good experiences with Dirty Unicorns too, been considering Bliss on other devices). Have I missed a very plain GPE (at least 5.1) compiled for the G3? Doing my research it looks like the latest OTA is still 20G (5.0.1), and it sounds like Marshmallow will eventually come out (I'm not sure I want it...). Would love to hear what the most plain GPE like 5.1 ROM is.
I'd love to hear any experience or recommendations... anybody get a G3 recently and wish they got something else, instead? Or is this a device we can all love for another year or so?
Thanks. I'm itching to pull the trigger and just need some encouragement, or possibly a conk on the head to look into some other phone.
One last question: how intense is the vibrate function on the G3? My S4 isn't strong enough vibrating, and I often miss calls and stuff when I'm in silent/vibrate mode. Looking for something a bit more attention getting if possible!
Marc

I dropped my note 3 for thus phone. Although it's rootable the g3 seems to be fragile when it comes to flashing roms if you don't know what you are doing. Not worse than the note 3 though ( ATT murdered that phone).

Thanks for the reply!
I've gone ahead and purchased the D851. It should arrive today, and I should have it set up later this week. Looking forward to it. I've bought an iCarez 0.2mm screen protector for it and am looking into bumpers/wraps to keep it minty.
I'm a bit concerned since there's no 5.1(.1) GPE ROM available, but many of the Dev'ed ROM options look attractive. I'm going to start by rooting the thing and subtracting bloatware. After that, we'll see... On the S4, the T-Mo boot animation was reason enough to flash a ROM. Loud and annoying.
I'm curious, are you stock, or have you flashed something (if so, which ROM)?
Again, thank you. I appreciate your reply.

I was practically in the same boat. I had a GS4 , but cracked the display, the actual display not the glass, and bought a G3. I replaced the front glass twice before that, its a very fragile phone. But otherwise I loved the S4 for the screen, the plain design, ROMs, expandable storage, and removable battery.
The G3 is very comparable to the S4, the screen I'd say is slight upgrade. You can barely notice 1440p vs 1080p, and I'd say its viewing angles aren't as good, but I still like it over my S4. I'm running paranoid android 5.1.1 on it now. Its similar to AOSP. If you liked the GS4 you'd probably like the G3 but it wasn't that great an upgrade. Still though, its logical to get the G3 if your S4 is broken as its pretty much an S4 with more up to date components and an LG logo on it.

Thanks for the input ! I did buy a G3 and will set it up this weekend. I will look into the ROM you mentioned too.
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I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.

Aalendi said:
I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.
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Thanks for the opinion, but I have to say I'm loving my D851.
I rooted it and installed TWRP straight out of the gate, so that I could make some changes I wanted to (such as uninstalling T-Mobile specific system apps, not needed for me on ATT), but I never even needed to change out the ROM. The phone works great on the stock ROM (minus a few things I manually debloated), and doesn't feel bloated or laggy. I didn't even bother to install the Cloudy ROM (debloated stock).
I did install the Google Now launcher, because I wasn't a fan of the stock UI. I like the things Google Now brings to the table and it cleaned up the UI.
After the first few days I stopped playing around with the phone because everything works great. Bluetooth to my car, no problem, great WIFI antenna and Cell receptivity as compared to my Galaxy S4. Nice screen, battery life is outstanding...
Loving the phone.

Can't disagree with Aalendi more. I've had the 851 for almost 18 months and running SR Lolly V6 - Final on it for the past 6 months. Works perfectly and even though I'm tempted from time to time to "upgrade" to another phone, I cannot find enough differences out there to warrant it. Android 6 is already emerging and I'm waiting to upgrade the ROM when I feel its almost glitch-free (which it's not at the moment. I think you made a fine decision. JM2C

Manual debloat?
I am sorta/kinda new to the ROM party and am able to install TWRP and flash/root my D851. However, I went back to the stock ROM because of Wi-Fi calling and more stable network connectivity than 3rd-party ROMS. My question to you is what do you mean by 'manual debloat'? Is that a function of TWRP or simply removing/disabling apps? Thanks.

Manual de-bloat refers to you being able to remove programs that carriers or manufacturers install on your phone when you first purchase it. Rooting your phone allows you to do this yourself.

Thinking about buying the LG G4.. how stable are the custom roms?

So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).

Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0

Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.

As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those

Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.

Overlord Yuri said:
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg

There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...

personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.

I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!

Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.

Overlord Yuri said:
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.

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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.

Overlord Yuri said:
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....

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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:

Overlord Yuri said:
I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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Are there any Android 8 (oreo) custom ROMS for the LG Optimus G Pro that anyone has f

Or, even Android 7...? My company no longer supplies our phones, so I'm trying to utilize one of my older phones as a stop gap - since I managed to drop my current one, before I 'have' to buy a new one; and have been looking for a later version of android. I currently have CM12 on it, but I don't mind trying anything at all that's a later version that might work.
Thank you so much, for any recommendations at all.
,JM

If there are they aren't here. G Pro barely has lollipop. Just buggy half-baked ROMs from 2-3 years ago. A few of the Devs seem legit IMO but the device isn't worth the hassle.

We are waiting here, may be there will be a hero

Well, been using the mod for ~3 years now. I think, there's no better & won't be. It looks good, behave fine.
Here u go: https://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/development/mar-0-lollipop-g-pro-v1-t3043779
Using v11 version
ps. buy some back panel https://www.google.pl/search?newwin....0.0.0....0.CJoOKMRModE#imgrc=UD7s5KrukUqGfM: , for it can get hot and this chills the battery.