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[Q] Wave 3 s8600 + Galaxy S Plus ROM

Hey guys,
does anyone know, which CPU the Wave 3 has? The Wave S8500 Hardware was verry similar to the Galaxy S Hardware, but it was not the same..
The specifications of the Wave 3 and the Galaxy S Plus are the same. Maybe it's the same Hardware?
Maybe we have got already a good base for an alternative operating system on the wave 3.
best Regards

According to GSMArena, Wave 3 has 1.4 Ghz Snapdragon processor, While Galaxy S Plus has 1.4 Ghz Scorpion Processor. Most likely the GPU would be Adreno 220..but it may as well be the Adreno 205 as Galaxy S Plus.

Okay.. there is 1 Snapdragongeneration that contains "Scorpion" SoC's with 1,4 GHz..
Snapdragon S2:
"MSM8255T 1,4 - 1,5 GHz, Adreno 205"
"MSM8655T 1,4 - 1,5 GHz, Adreno 205"
Both of them are Scorpions... the Generation is called Snapdragon.. so the same CPUs in Galaxy W, Galaxy S Plus and Wave 3
I don't think that there is a driverproblem.. now we have a third phone, that is similar (not the displaycontroller and modem from Galaxy W)
EDIT:
Okay i c, this CPU is used in the most Samsung Middle-Class Phones:
MSM8255T 45 nm ARMv7 1.4-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2
GSM (GPRS, EDGE), W-CDMA/UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+), MBMS
Samsung Focus Flash, Samsung Focus S, Samsung Galaxy S Plus, Samsung Galaxy S II Mini, Samsung Omnia W, Samsung Galaxy W
This Specifications match to the Wave 3

-creez- said:
Hey guys,
does anyone know, which CPU the Wave 3 has? The Wave S8500 Hardware was verry similar to the Galaxy S Hardware, but it was not the same..
The specifications of the Wave 3 and the Galaxy S Plus are the same. Maybe it's the same Hardware?
Maybe we have got already a good base for an alternative operating system on the wave 3.
In 2 days I'll get my Wave 3. Just begin to try some funny things with that SGSPlus Kernel. But don't expect too much.. I have got a lot of work to do for the next months...
best Regards
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Just grab camera, disassembly S8600 and get macro photos of mainboard.
But seriously doubt it would be so similiar to SGS+ as S8500 to SGS,

I hope we got soon Service Manual from S8600...
Best Regards

using samsung own app "badasi" will tell you the cpu: S5PC110A01 and gpu: powervr sgx540

BadaSI is done by Larieto not Samsung
but nice to hear that you think that it is made by Samsung
Best Regards

Me to, but his name is:
larioteo
If I name an user, I need to use copy and paste to prevent funny mistakes.
Sorry for laughing.
Best Regards

Lol
i always write his nickname wrong...before I was copying it too
i'd rather write his real name because I never wrote it wrong D.....
no problem for lauhging about it...i laughed about it too
Best Regards

ooOOooh, If that phone is running a Snapdragon it'll be similar to the current crop of sony ericsson phones and a lot of HTC devices... First things first, Whatever it is (SPC, MSM or QSD) check that damned modem chip and see if there are drivers for it :-D

Yeah, i would love to put my Wave 3 to tests if anybody starts porting Android on this one.

you can help them. Disassemble wave, make same macro photo of PCB and send it them.

zmajster01 said:
you can help them. Disassemble wave, make same macro photo of PCB and send it them.
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Ok, i'm planning to do so, i just need some tools to arrive this days.

Wave 3 disassembled.. I'll upload pictures next days.

Meanwhile Service Manual for S8600 available...
Best Regards

there are some news about??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23465530&postcount=20
S8600 Service Manual follow Link...
For other Pics or something else... no idea...
Best Regards

So Mädels,
i've token some pics of the Wave 3 Mainboard.
Link: https://rapidshare.com/files/2709254085/Wave_III_MainBoard_Pics.zip
Qualcomm Chip : Modem
SanDisk : Flash / EEPROM
That Samsung Chip : Snapdragon S2 SoC
P.s.:
Odin3 V 1.85 rocognizes the Wave 3
Would be good, if somebody else can post pictures of the Galaxy S Plus Mainboard.
Best Regards

Dank you 4 die Fotos.
Best Regards

does anyone know how big the partition sizes of the sgs plus are? need a *.pit file

mali 400 gpu the weakest out?

how weak is this gpu, is it overclocked ?

its pretty outdated, regardless what anyone else says to you
it has half the die size of a 544mp4, which is kind of sad ... the mali400 in note 2 is overclocked versus the one in the gs2, and is suppose to be an improved variant from the galaxy s3
it is faster than tegra 3, ill tell you that for sure

something is strange, i wonder if the note 2 gpu is a variant in the way the adreno series like adreno 225 but samsung just doesnt change the numbering maybe, what do you think, if its a variant, there must be changes, no way it can pull figures like it does while being a s2 gpu lol

ynos 4 Quad[16]
(Internally Exynos 4412)[17] 32 nm HKMG ARMv7 1.4-1.6 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 ARM Mali-400 MP4 (Quad-Core)[18] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR, LPDDR2, DDR2 or DDR3 (6.4 GB/sec)[19] 2012 @1.4 GHz:
Samsung Galaxy S III (selected devices in Europe/Asia), Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, Lenovo K860, Newman N2, Meizu MX 4-Core, Hardkernel ODROID-X[20], ORIGEN 4 Quad[13]
@1.6 GHz:
Samsung Galaxy Note II (plus improved graphics), Meizu MX2
what does plus improved graphics mean in wikipedia

[Q] Which CPU does my Tab S LTE have?

How can I find out which CPU my Tab S 8.4 LTE has ? I bought my tablet from on online Italian dealer.

They all have Exynos (except some rare US and Chinese models).

corvus.corax said:
How can I find out which CPU my Tab S 8.4 LTE has ? I bought my tablet from on online Italian dealer.
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Install and run the cpu-z app. It will show you the cpu and lots of other information!

dzeek said:
Install and run the cpu-z app. It will show you the cpu and lots of other information!
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Well, I am more confused now.
I called Samsung and they accessed some internal technical data that I couldn't find online. According to the customer service rep, my LTE device (SM-T705) has a 2.3ghz snapdragon 800ghz quad core for the LTE functions and a 1.9 ghz exynos quad core. The non-LTE (SM-T700) has a 1.9ghz quad core exynos and a 1.3ghz quad core exynos (i.e., exynos 5 octa). So, according to them, my device isn't octacore, but dual (heterogenous) quad core. That's exactly what the rep told me. Hmmmmmm
Here is what cpu-z reports:
1) 4x ARM Cortex [email protected] 1.90ghz
2) 4x ARM Cortex [email protected] 1.90ghz
3) GPU Mali T628
It doesn't explicitly say if the brand of each 4-core CPU. I was unaware and A-7 could run at 1.9, even overclocked.
Here is what the CPU/RAM/DEVICE Identifer app reports:
1) Exynos 5 5420 Octa x4+4 1.9ghz.
According to this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438339), the 5420 is an A-15.
2) 3) GPU Mali T628
My observation here that maybe the device is using an LTE chip separate (not integrated) alongside an exynos octacore. It's possible according to an Australian forum: "Samsung is buying LTE modems from Intel and using them with their own Exynos 5 Octa (5420) SoC, as using in-house silicon reduces manufacturing costs."
To show how confusing this is, here is what I found on Wikipedia, describing sort of vaguely the Tab S 10.1 cpu (no similar description for the 8.4):
"The WiFi model of the tablet is powered by the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420 CPUs. The LTE model comes either with a Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400 on top of a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset (version for some US carriers) or with the Exynos octa-core CPU (version for some European countries)."
That seems to say the LTE version has snapdragon quad core plus another snapdragon quad core OR an exynos octacore. That would mean they'd have to have turned off the A-7 core. Either way, I thought a snapdragon would not work with the Mali GPU.
In the end, still confused, but I'm leaning toward believing it's all exynos plus that intel LTE modem. As to which cortex cores, I dunno.

They are all exynos apart from ramdom US ones as mentioned before. There is huge confusion online. Its an exynos with two quad cores but no hetrogenous processing.

Thanks for the replies. An all exynos system makes sense. Clearly, one quad core is 1.9ghz. I wonder what the other quad core runs at. The CPU-z type apps are giving conflicting results. And, clearly Samsung customer service has no idea. They think I have an exynos 1.9ghz quad plus a snapdragon 2.3ghz quad.

Wrong thread

Mokum020 said:
It's four ARM Cortex A15 cores at 1.9Ghz and four Arm Cortex A7 cores at 1.3Ghz.
They call it the big.LITTLE concept where the A7 cores are for low power/light tasks and the A15 cores for performance.
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Totally 100% correct.

Again, thanks for the help. It will be interesting to see what the Tab S2 will have in it beside a 4:3 form factor and a much lower capacity battery.

Likely the new 7440 exynos. (May have got that model number wrong!)

I guess when it comes out, I'll put my T705 on eBay. Gotta stay current ☺

Christ it comes to something when even Samsung doesn't know what's in there own devices!
This forum doesn't help either by having the wrong specs at the top of the forum page.
The majority of tab s's have the exynos cpus not snapdragon and this should be reflected in the spec details in this forum.
I can see how newcomers get easily confused.
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[Q] Which processor really are in Tab S ? (8.4 and 10.5)

According to the info appearing at Samsung, TAB S tablet has an "octa core processor", there is no reference about type or model. or brand.
Info appering at PDADB is:
SM-T705 , SM-T705C, SM-T705M and SM-T705Y: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420
SM-T805, SM-T805C, SM-T805Y: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420
SM-T805K, SM-T805L, SM-T805S: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5433
This forum says about TAB S : Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
I live in Colombia, we have here models T705M and T805M.
A local vendor says both models mount an "Adonis Prime+ XMM7160" processor
Can anybody clarify this mess ? are there really different processors for same model ? if so, are there any performance difference between those processors ?
Thanks,
Update:
It seems "Adonis Prime" is an alias for Exynos 5420.

Yeah, It`s a right mess different cpu for different markets and configurations.
Even the Samsung website for my region only gives the cpu speed and quad or octo core, but not a brand or model number, octo is normally exynos and quad is snapdragon at the moment.
Best to check with the supplier before purchasing if you want a certain model of cpu.
Never heard of the "Adonis Prime+ XMM7160" processor" will have to do a search, EDIT: Intel modem soc ??? see link below.
Some Samsung android tablets use Intel atom cpu, but normally the low priced choices.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/08/intel-xmm-7160-lte-modem-ship-august-2013/
John.
oldprogrammer said:
According to the info appearing at Samsung, TAB S tablet has an "octa core processor", there is no reference about type or model. or brand.
Info appering at PDADB is:
SM-T705 , SM-T705C, SM-T705M and SM-T705Y: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420
SM-T805, SM-T805C, SM-T805Y: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420
SM-T805K, SM-T805L, SM-T805S: all have Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5433
This forum says about TAB S : Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
I live in Colombia, we have here models T705M and T805M.
A local vendor says both models mount an "Adonis Prime+ XMM7160" processor
Can anybody clarify this mess ? are there really different processors for same model ? if so, are there any performance difference between those processors ?
Thanks,
Update:
It seems "Adonis Prime" is an alias for Exynos 5420.
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Practically you will have a 5420 CPU in all but a couple of ones, the 807 AT&T etc ones. So expect the 5420 almost certainly. Watch out your local vendor has genuine stock, exynos with intel mobile chip is what you will get if genuine.

That quote seems wrong a bit wrong with me.
John.
lynxblaine said:
exynos with intel mobile chip is what you will get if genuine.
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Thanks for your answers.
From the info I got since yesterday, it seems:
1. Exynos 54xx series is called also "Adonis":
One source (there are several similar): http://tech2yantra.blogspot.com/2014/04/are-you-getting-real-galaxy-s5-latest.html
2. XMM7160 is a modem LTE chip (from Intel):
Source: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...e-communications/mobile-xmm-7160-1-brief.html
With this info, I guess the vendor is really very precise: Adonis Prime + (plus) XMM7160 are really the chips used by a Galaxy Tab S. (CPU + LTE modem).
It could be a little confusing because the name "Adonis" is not quoted normally (I found several quotes to "Adonis" in S5 in sites from Romania, Russia, India, etc)
What do you think about this "interpretation" ?

They do all these study's on what names and words work in different country's, some words that are fine in the west, might be offensive in some country's as they mean different things.
It certainty is confusing, so stop using words and use number, but not 666, 13, 7777 where does it end.
John.
oldprogrammer said:
Thanks for your answers.
From the info I got since yesterday, it seems:
1. Exynos 54xx series is called also "Adonis":
One source (there are several similar): http://tech2yantra.blogspot.com/2014/04/are-you-getting-real-galaxy-s5-latest.html
2. XMM7160 is a modem LTE chip (from Intel):
Source: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...e-communications/mobile-xmm-7160-1-brief.html
With this info, I guess the vendor is really very precise: Adonis Prime + (plus) XMM7160 are really the chips used by a Galaxy Tab S. (CPU + LTE modem).
It could be a little confusing because the name "Adonis" is not quoted normally (I found several quotes to "Adonis" in S5 in sites from Romania, Russia, India, etc)
What do you think about this "interpretation" ?
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How fast is ZenFone 2 when searching large pdf files?

Hi,
I'm looking to buy a new phone and since mainly need it for searching for information in large pdf files, want to see if it's Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3580 (2.3GHz) will perform better than Galaxy s6 or Nexus 5x.
I tried Galaxy s6 along my current S3 and while galaxy S6 is faster, is still slower than my tablet running windows 10 on Intel z3735d CPU with 1 GB RAM.
And I was thinking ZenFone 2 which has newer CPU than the tablet and 4GB Ram can do better job compared to devices with Snapdragon CPU's.
Do you have any thoughts for my case?
Thanks.