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Guesses On An Official ICS Release Date?

So now that the official ICS leak has been out for a little while now, anybody want to take a guess as to when we'll get an actual, true official update for our phones (AT&T and Rogers both)?
I'm especially curious now that the Galaxy Tab 8.9 received it's update just today, and in all honesty, I'm sure many have forgotten about said tablet. If that tablet has the update now, our phones shouldn't be far behind no?
Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
So any thoughts? My guess: early September...only because of the fact the Galaxy Tab 8.9 just got the update today and IFA is today as well and they could potentially announce more dates for ICS updates.

I don't think Rogers gives a rat's behind on the glide. At launch it was $149 on a 3 yr, then two weeks later it was 0.99 on a 3 year where it has stayed since. Not sure it they still have it online.
I don't think they will release the ICS update for it.

PacoL250 said:
So now that the official ICS leak has been out for a little while now, anybody want to take a guess as to when we'll get an actual, true official update for our phones (AT&T and Rogers both)?
I'm especially curious now that the Galaxy Tab 8.9 received it's update just today, and in all honesty, I'm sure many have forgotten about said tablet. If that tablet has the update now, our phones shouldn't be far behind no?
Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
So any thoughts? My guess: early September...only because of the fact the Galaxy Tab 8.9 just got the update today and IFA is today as well and they could potentially announce more dates for ICS updates.
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Go ahead and root it. You can install all you want and then use the app 'hide my root' to hide the root and get your office mail working. For me this works with Airwatch and good for enterprise should also get tricked. Give it a try anyway or restore your nandroid backup if it doesn't work.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung's recent loss against Apple will push back an official release even though we have a near complete leaked ROM. Samsung now has to release more stock-like ROMs to a lot of devices all at once, which is a big job for any company. The Glide gets very little love as it is so it might be a while. Hope I'm wrong.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/28/samsung-smartphone-ban-response-apple-patent-trial/

bobbinthreadbare said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung's recent loss against Apple will push back an official release even though we have a near complete leaked ROM. Samsung now has to release more stock-like ROMs to a lot of devices all at once, which is a big job for any company. The Glide gets very little love as it is so it might be a while. Hope I'm wrong.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/28/samsung-smartphone-ban-response-apple-patent-trial/
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I hope you're wrong too; however, Samsung is appealing the ruling and had a counter-suit already pending (which may have been updated since this verdict). So I don't expect things to change right away either. Expect the bickering to continue for a while, with a possible slight hit to consumers on the Android side of things.
I just don't expect an ICS update be delayed because of this. Heck, Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy Camera, etc. at IFA so clearly at this stage, it's business as usual for the most part.

I think its up to att to release it now...?
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PacoL250 said:
I hope you're wrong too; however, Samsung is appealing the ruling and had a counter-suit already pending (which may have been updated since this verdict). So I don't expect things to change right away either. Expect the bickering to continue for a while, with a possible slight hit to consumers on the Android side of things.
I just don't expect an ICS update be delayed because of this. Heck, Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy Camera, etc. at IFA so clearly at this stage, it's business as usual for the most part.
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Until their appeal goes to court, does that mean they can't push anything that was deemed patent-infringing? I think most of the stuff in the case was related to TouchWiz (out of like 100+ patents disputed though). Say the case never happened and we were supposed to get an ICS release this week, are they legally not allowed to release it now until they either change it or win an appeal?

PacoL250 said:
Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
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The ICS leak doesn't require root at all, just boot into download mode and run the .exe from your PC. It installs the AT&t unrooted ICS, which shouldn't give you any problems with your work.
On top of that, you can flash CWM Recovery and remove any bloatware in recovery, while keeping your actual rom unrooted and safe for work usage.

Regarding the law suits:
Apple wants eight Samsung smartphones banned.
They are the Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy S2 AT&T model, Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, Galaxy S2 T-Mobile model, Galaxy S2 Epic 4G, Galaxy S Showcase, Droid Charge and Galaxy Prevail.
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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19407521
It doesn't mention the Glide specifically, so that's good. But things could still be pushed back a little. I'm guessing a September release. Samsung has everything to gain by creating more brand-value, and one way to do so is sticking to its promises.

Evil Alex said:
Regarding the law suits:
It doesn't mention the Glide specifically, so that's good. But things could still be pushed back a little. I'm guessing a September release. Samsung has everything to gain by creating more brand-value, and one way to do so is sticking to its promises.
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What I find funny is the fact that the Galaxy Precedent from straight talk is exactly the same as the Galaxy Prevail just different carriers. So why isn't the Precedent on that ban list? Apple is just going to court over everything now. It doesn't make any sense. (Had to delete your link due to me not having 10 posts.)
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new firmware update the precursor to ICS?
Today I went through the daily ritual of checking the Samsung Kies program for an ICS update and there was a firmware update listed for my Captivate Glide! I can't tell what it is but if it's not ICS could it be the update that comes right before ICS?
This is what is listed in Kies: New update - PDA:LH2 / Phone:LH2 / CSC:LH2 (ATT)
If anyone knows what this is please let me know and do you know if it relates to the long-awaited ICS update?
Thanks
Scidoc
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my phone: SGH-I927 stock, unrooted (for now)

I guess today
AT&T Free Msg: Samsung Captivate Glide upgrade to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich is now available! The OS update supports enhanced performance, user interface and other device improvements. Open the link from your PC (not your phone), and follow the instructions: www.samsung.com/us/attcaptivateglide/update
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[JB] Confusing reports

Apparently, Samsung still has a lot to learn with respect to providing their customers with a consistent message throughout the medias...
Yesterday afternoon on MobileSyrup.com, a Canadian based mobile news/reviews site...
Samsung Canada: Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III upgrade to Jelly Bean will arrive “before the holidays”
Now, this morning on TGDaily...
Galaxy S III Jelly Bean update may be in 2013
Ok, TGDaily provides no source to their information but still... this is kinda confusing and I would expect a company like Samsung to get their act together, don't you ?

I just ran into this Samsung announcement at BGR... There appears to be no specific timeline for the carriers.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/10/17/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jelly-bean-upgrade-begin/

HiKsFiles said:
Apparently, Samsung still has a lot to learn with respect to providing their customers with a consistent message throughout the medias...
Yesterday afternoon on MobileSyrup.com, a Canadian based mobile news/reviews site...
Samsung Canada: Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III upgrade to Jelly Bean will arrive “before the holidays”
Now, this morning on TGDaily...
Galaxy S III Jelly Bean update may be in 2013
Ok, TGDaily provides no source to their information but still... this is kinda confusing and I would expect a company like Samsung to get their act together, don't you ?
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Well both of those articles could be and probably are accurate. The galaxy s3 and notes on one or more of the Canadian networks will likely begin to receive jb during the holidays - mobile syrup is probably right on here.
And I'm sure tg daily is exactly right when it says some of the major US networks galaxy s3's will not get jb to 2013.
This information seems quite inline with what is going on - I'm not sure what you see as being contradictory or confusing.
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My experience with the Samsung Vibrant taught me a very valuable lesson - don't EVER expect timely OS updates when buying a Samsung device, unless that device is a Nexus.

kgbkny said:
My experience with the Samsung Vibrant taught me a very valuable lesson - don't EVER expect timely OS updates when buying a Samsung device, unless that device is a Nexus.
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I have to agree and disagree at the same time. I have had multiple Samsung android phones, and multiple Motorola android phones. Samsung is already pushing out the JB update for their international S3, the only one that they have full control over the updates. Ours has to go through at least a month of carrier testing before att will push it out. The i747 updates even come off of ATTs server. All of the variants have their software pushed out by the carrier, which takes a lot longer. Samsung has had one of the fastest rollouts of JB on the international S3. Moto is much slower than Samsung, or at least have been in the past. This may change now that Google owns Moto. Even the Verizon Nexus JUST got JB, but the international has had it for a while. If you want timely updates, buy an international version of a phone.

dayv said:
Well both of those articles could be and probably are accurate. The galaxy s3 and notes on one or more of the Canadian networks will likely begin to receive jb during the holidays - mobile syrup is probably right on here.
And I'm sure tg daily is exactly right when it says some of the major US networks galaxy s3's will not get jb to 2013.
This information seems quite inline with what is going on - I'm not sure what you see as being contradictory or confusing.
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Right, didn't see it this way.
It just seems odd that us canadians would be updated before you guys down south

I don't really think timing is Canadian or US dependent, but CARRIER dependent. The fact that the US & Canadian announcements above came out a day apart strongly suggests that Samsung will simultaneously provide the North American SG3 carriers with their updates and then release dates will be determined by the carriers.

Samsung must have already released the update to the carriers ... hence the announcements.

Considering there is a bell jelly bean leak i would say the carriers have had jelly bean for atleast a month now. I expect bell to release it first
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I would assume if you made it to xda you would stop blaming Samsung for carrier variants of phones getting updates. Whatever process carriers have to do to add there bloat has nothing to do with Samsung.
Blame AT&T bell T-Mobile etc.
Samsung sitting back saying we gave them that up date 3 months ago. Our guess is as good as theirs.
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HiKsFiles said:
Samsung must have already released the update to the carriers ... hence the announcements.
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This ^
js2021 said:
Considering there is a bell jelly bean leak i would say the carriers have had jelly bean for atleast a month now. I expect bell to release it first
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This ^
If Samsung hasn't already given the update to all the carriers, they must of already given it to some of them. And I'm sure all the carriers will get something from Samsung (if not already) within the next two months. Then it will be up p to the carriers - some of which will take several months to get their respective customers.

dj_spore said:
I have to agree and disagree at the same time. I have had multiple Samsung android phones, and multiple Motorola android phones. Samsung is already pushing out the JB update for their international S3, the only one that they have full control over the updates. Ours has to go through at least a month of carrier testing before att will push it out. The i747 updates even come off of ATTs server. All of the variants have their software pushed out by the carrier, which takes a lot longer. Samsung has had one of the fastest rollouts of JB on the international S3. Moto is much slower than Samsung, or at least have been in the past. This may change now that Google owns Moto. Even the Verizon Nexus JUST got JB, but the international has had it for a while. If you want timely updates, buy an international version of a phone.
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This is one of the reasons why I kept my Galaxy Nexus. As much as I like my GS3, software overlays and carrier interference typically spells extensive update delays.

Who has already updated phones to Jelly Bean? I don't really see a reason to complain. Or at least not to complain about a single device manufacturer. Samsung is generally pretty fast with updates compared to others. Either way they are dev friendly so that means you should have a custom update within a month of release to AOSP.

Do AT&T leaks show up on any AT&T servers? Or is the reason we don't have leaks because it is impossible to find them?

Sir_Brizz said:
Do AT&T leaks show up on any AT&T servers? Or is the reason we don't have leaks because it is impossible to find them?
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The att leaks I have seen for previous Samsung phones were usually the result of someone who knew someone on the inside. I'm sure some of the time the leaks were intentionally put out by att for some free bug testing by the development community.
Design gears is one dev who at least in the past had a source - though I don't know how much dg spends on At&t phones or if he still has his connections. Also dg does not seem to spend much time on xda any more.
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intruda119 said:
I would assume if you made it to xda you would stop blaming Samsung for carrier variants of phones getting updates. Whatever process carriers have to do to add there bloat has nothing to do with Samsung.
Blame AT&T bell T-Mobile etc.
Samsung sitting back saying we gave them that up date 3 months ago. Our guess is as good as theirs.
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This is why I can't wait for next year when all manuf drop nexus devices. I can see this as people will probably stop buying the other phones manuf make and just get nexus devices. I'll probably cop a lg or htc nexus device myself. I'm tired of mother****ers playing with the updates and ****. I just want my vanilla android without the bull**** game playing
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Just read 2 different stories on this. 1 says itll coming "in the coming months" (theverge.com) and the other says early next year.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3516180/samsung-galaxy-s-III-jelly-bean-update-coming-months
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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btm fdr said:
Just read 2 different stories on this. 1 says itll coming "in the coming months" (theverge.com) and the other says early next year.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3516180/samsung-galaxy-s-III-jelly-bean-update-coming-months
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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Seeing how its mid October both could be right.

kgbkny said:
My experience with the Samsung Vibrant taught me a very valuable lesson - don't EVER expect timely OS updates when buying a Samsung device, unless that device is a Nexus.
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I don't see why people feel the need to say this about Samsung. This is fact for EVERY Android device other than the Nexus. LG/HTC/etc updates are no better, sometimes a slight ahead or slight behind, but they all take forever.

We all seem to be missing the point of updates. Its not the ROM itself, its the source code that we want.

Jelly Bean update! But not for us! :(

So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.

blame the carriers.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic

Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Intub8 said:
Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?

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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.

just use a custom rom!

scorpion667 said:
All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.

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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.

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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.

kgbkny said:
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!

I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.

I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.

By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.

http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?

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http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.

I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.

Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.

What happened to the 5.1.1 update?

Hey everyone,
I just wanted to start a thread trying to find out more about the 5.1.1 update for our phones. Personally, 5.0.1, for me at least, has been a complete bust where my battery life has really taken a hit. I went from being able to use my phone for 17 hours with nearly 5 hours of screen on time (I live in an area where the reception is spotty and I listen to music nearly 24.7), to about 12 hours with about 3 hours of screen on time, with the battery saver. I've been reading the other forums and apparently, with this update, the battery life is just as good as Kit kat and the recent apps lag is gone.
I recently also heard that Samsung is starting to ask that carriers stop selling the Note 4 is also shocking.
So, that leaves me with the question, "where's our update?" because if they keep screwing us over, how are they going to have loyal users?

Good question and my battery on 5.0.1 is also crap. Sprint note4 has 5.1.1 for a while already.
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By the end of Sept or Oct because the note 4 is confirmed to be one of the phones that will get Marshmallow by the end of the year.
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By the end of Sept or Oct because the note 4 is confirmed to be one of the phones that will get Marshmallow by the end of the year.
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We were supposed to get 5.1.1 by the end of July. With the way Samsung updates its "flagship" devices, we might see it as late as Q2 of next year
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By the end of Sept or Oct because the note 4 is confirmed to be one of the phones that will get Marshmallow by the end of the year.
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Does that include VZW? I read a rumor somewhere that VZW might skip 5.1.1 for the Note 4, and go straight to M later in the year.

HwaA18 said:
We were supposed to get 5.1.1 by the end of July. With the way Samsung updates its "flagship" devices, we might see it as late as Q2 of next year
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Samsung had the S3 from 2012 updated to Kitkat before most 2013 devices.
You also have to remember Verizon is not the fastest at releasing updates.

This is driving me crazy. I got my Note 4 recently used but I didn't expect VWZ not to update it. I really am starting to think I need to move off of Verizon...

Are you new to Verizon?, because Verizon has always been slow to update.

With the crap experience I had recently with the Galaxy S 6, and the fact that Samsung has pulled the Note 4 (possibly just going through old stock on most carriers, as VZW, T-Mobile and AT&T all still have it), I think I'm done with Samsung.
Got no reason to keep going with them when they're treating loyal users like me who have converted many over to Samsung devices. Not just phones, I buy Samsung TVs almost exclusively and ONLY buy Samsung SSDs, but both trends may change.
Anybody interested in an almost-new Sammy 75" LED?

Looks most likely that Verizon and Samsung will skip the 5.1.1 update and go straight to 6.0 in the 1st quarter of 2016.
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Looks most likely that Verizon and Samsung will skip the 5.1.1 update and go straight to 6.0 in the 1st quarter of 2016.
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Disappointing, but that makes sense.

outcasted2003 said:
Looks most likely that Verizon and Samsung will skip the 5.1.1 update and go straight to 6.0 in the 1st quarter of 2016.
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Looks like the update is "imminent", according to this site.

outcasted2003 said:
Looks most likely that Verizon and Samsung will skip the 5.1.1 update and go straight to 6.0 in the 1st quarter of 2016.
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I got the same thing from a VZW chat rep AND a phone rep. Take that as you will. Nothing pending for 5.1.1 though.

It just occurred to me what might be the reason for the delays on updates for the Note 4. Having the Note 5 on a later version could be the only real advantage it has. People don't like the loss of the removable battery and SD support.

stueycaster said:
It just occurred to me what might be the reason for the delays on updates for the Note 4. Having the Note 5 on a later version could be the only real advantage it has. People don't like the loss of the removable battery and SD support.
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Yeah, I dumped my S6 to go back to the Note 4. I had a Note 4 with AT&T and I almost wish I had kept it. But if I had kept it, I wouldn't have my Surface Pro 2.

I was wondering the same thing, along with is there any point to actually holding off updating anymore? Really doubting permanent root, at this point.

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I was wondering the same thing, along with is there any point to actually holding off updating anymore? Really doubting permanent root, at this point.
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I'm not 100% sure, but basically this phones probably never going to be rooted. The only reason to ever hold off on an update is to see what others have to say about the new update. I didnt do this with lollipop and now i'm in that predicament.

Honestly we should just tweet to @verizonSupport and take screen shots of our phones saying up to date. Let's try and get our voices out there!

Here's the latest news about what's coming to the Note 4.
http://www.cnet.com/news/leaked-doc-tips-samsungs-android-6-0-update-plans/
http://neurogadget.com/2015/11/18/s...rshmallow-update-plans-have-been-leaked/20111
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I talked to Samsung and Verizon the other day about that. And Samsung says it's been out and clueless as to why we haven't received it and Verizon stated "we don't have a switch to just push out an update we haven't received for the note 4" and I told them how it works and they quickly changed the subject and hung up. My theory is this last update was so screwed up by locking everything up so tight they are unable to push it out. Hell repair assistant fails to have the ability to do it.

Welcome to Marshmallow

Looks like we are one step closer to marshmallow. The T-Mobile website now shows the phone in T-Mobile testing phase.
Update: Download some marshmallows now.

Taking them way too long. Verizon already is pushing out Marshmallow for the Note. They are usually the last carrier. I'm disappointed with development from this phone.

you sure about that? to me it still shows that it is under manufacturer development

Maybe we'll see it in April

Telus may rollout Marshmallow at March 30th for s6 edge. what about t-mobile

I believe tmobile has always been the slowest in releasing updates. ..don't be surprised either April or May timeframe

I couldn't help it. I used JUMP to get the S7 Edge. In Reality it's exactly what I wanted the S6 Edge to be. I really have zero complaints about the S6 Edge. I'll miss seeing how it handles marshmallow. I think it'll fit it well.

Can't blame you. ..I'm thinking of upgrading myself. ..this update is taking to long

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Looks like we are one step closer to marshmallow. The T-Mobile website now shows the phone in T-Mobile testing phase.
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Actually if you click on the phone it shows that it's still in manufacturer development.
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Well, Sprint just beat TMobile to marshmallow.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...eir-android-marshmallow-over-the-air-updates/
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dnanj said:
Well, Sprint just beat TMobile to marshmallow.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...eir-android-marshmallow-over-the-air-updates/
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It is kind of hilarious we are now reading Android N developer preview stuff, seeing lowly Sprint rolling out updates to M and we are reading that it's still in a development phase as far as TMobile goes. I not one that thinks M is going to be that great we absolutely need to have it Android. I'm more disappointed I have been a long time Tmobile customer, and going from my first Android, my beloved Nexus One that was put at by Google at the time, to switching over to Samsung and basically being the good little follower/updater of every TOL device they put out prior to my current S6Edge which I obtained on the first day of availability last April 2015 and my wifes Note5 I recently updated her to from her Note 3. TMobile used to be known as the leader of the pack supporting their USA customer base.
Lastly, in the past up thru the latest 5.1.1 updates, it was really easy to flash an International version, use a Kerenel that played happy with TMobile hardware, and occasionally requiring an additional flash of a file to fix call audio issues and we all were golden. I'm guessing that once a TMobile supported Android M Bootloader is available, we can then happily start flashing away the many International Android M ROMs already being posted on those Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 Edge sites.
I could be wrong on that, but I really thing once we have a bootloader posted we can all go back to complaining about this or that specific ROM issues, instead of pounding the web sites for Tmobile to get it's act in gear. Really....Sprint ahead of Tmobile....scratching my head

Sprint rolls out their updates first when business is mediocre.

Still waiting for M. This is why I dont buy Tmo S7.

Im start hate samsung, so many versions for the same cellphone or watch, I never want say this but with iphone dont happen thinks like that..

Well, finally it's showing on T-Mobile's page that it is in testing phase.
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There's a petition gng around to release MM for all S6/S6 edge devices so maybe that help...
ammarwajihi said:
Here's the petition on Samsung's software update policy for those who are tired of it. I request you all to please sign it, so we can raise our voice. After signing, don't forget to SHARE it.
Samsung Mobile : Software update policy of Shamesung - Sign the Petition!
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-mo...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=whatsapp
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I know what you mean fabioplata, that's why I went to nexus 6p. Let me tell you that the grass is most definitely greener on this side.
And yes Alex9090 seems like I made a mistake when I started this thread, maybe my excitement got to me. But its in T-Mobile Testing phase now.
KingP1n I don't see Samsung changing their ways anytime soon. They are trying to use touchwiz in a way to make money from it. But the end result is always the same it takes too many resources away from the base OS and the whole experience feels like riding on the short bus.

This is my last Sammie phone anyway... I've been pretty disappointed in it and should have waited to buy it - always out to be the early adopter.. i need to knock that crap off..
Having to wait for hell to freeze over before getting the update just hammers it all home...

The worst part is that this will most likely be the last update this phone will get.
Imagine next year we will be where S5 owners are now last to get if ever get Android N

The worst part is that this will most likely be the last update this phone will get.
Imagine next year we will be where S5 owners are now last to get if ever get Android N.