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Like the title suggest I paid about 400 and I really don't know the difference between them but I'm sure this isn't one I should keep or should I? I would hate to go through the hassle of shipping and waiting but then again I want the correct version. The input is appreciated
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I believe theres a DoCoMo thread in the General section, there's an unlocker app in the dev section as well originally made for GN-Docomo's
But my Sim card works I'm on att. I just want to know if there's a major difference enough so to return the phone. Every thing seems to be working fine I just don't want problems down the road because this is a domoco
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I think the differences are only limited to the supported network bands. But it seems everything's working fine for you on ATT.
On a firmware level, docomo may not be yakju stock - your future Android updates won't be coming through from Google but from Samsung, at a later date.
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Both Nexus and One X?? King in the castle!! You're lucky!
uranis said:
Like the title suggest I paid about 400 and I really don't know the difference between them but I'm sure this isn't one I should keep or should I? I would hate to go through the hassle of shipping and waiting but then again I want the correct version. The input is appreciated
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I personally would not keep Docomo version as from searching i found that with such version you have to either satisfied with being not permanently unlocked (SIM Unlock code request will appear each time you flash a new ROM or make a factory reset) or satisfied with being permanently unlocked but with generic IMEI.
When I bought my Nexus here in Vietnam there were a lot of Docomo ones but I rather waited for European version and was willingly to pay 20-50 USD more (Docomo version here in Vietnam is sold for 20-50USD cheaper than European version). Hope helped you with decision.
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I think the differences are only limited to the supported network bands. But it seems everything's working fine for you on ATT.
On a firmware level, docomo may not be yakju stock - your future Android updates won't be coming through from Google but from Samsung, at a later date.
Both Nexus and One X?? King in the castle!! You're lucky!
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I actually used the galaxy toolkit and everything seemed to work fine. So I'm on yakju now. And I actually like the nexus more than the one X if that's hard to believe
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I personally would not keep Docomo version as from searching i found that with such version you have to either satisfied with being not permanently unlocked (SIM Unlock code request will appear each time you flash a new ROM or make a factory reset) or satisfied with being permanently unlocked but with generic IMEI.
When I bought my Nexus here in Vietnam there were a lot of Docomo ones but I rather waited for European version and was willingly to pay 20-50 USD more (Docomo version here in Vietnam is sold for 20-50USD cheaper than European version). Hope helped you with decision.
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I actually flashed the factory Google rom yakju on this phone and it didn't ask for an unlock code. Sim still worked. Haven't tried a rom yet but that will be my next test, I don't think it will be any different. Thanks everyone for your replies
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Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.
chevymeister said:
Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.
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as far as i know it must have no problems
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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I have the Koodo phone, exact same firmware as you. I haven't had any problems with CWM, rooting, unlocking, flashing, etc.
You should be fine.
Alright, awesome! So most of these roms, even though the ruu is from eur/asia it won't change my baseband or anything? Gonna love getting rid of all this bloatware.
chevymeister said:
Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.
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What bloatware if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks man
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What bloatware if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks man
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After rooting you can use titanium backup to uninstall "system" apps that are operator bloatware, or even manufacturer bloatware.
Edit 2: Arrgghhh stupid tapatalk, I meant this as an edit to my previous post, my apologies for the unintentional double post.
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Edit:
After rooting you can use titanium backup to uninstall "system" apps that are operator bloatware, or even manufacturer bloatware.
Edit 2: Arrgghhh stupid tapatalk, I meant this as an edit to my previous post, my apologies for the unintentional double post.
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This is most likely the solution to my problem then. It just has stuff like Dropbox, Twitter and a bunch of other apps I'll never use and don't want on my phone. Lol. Plus I'd like to run Adfree and a few other root worthy programs
chevymeister said:
This is most likely the solution to my problem then. It just has stuff like Dropbox, Twitter and a bunch of other apps I'll never use and don't want on my phone. Lol. Plus I'd like to run Adfree and a few other root worthy programs
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Ah cool, I use dropbox, twitter etc.
Totally agree with root, TB, adfree to name a few are pretty much necessary!
I was hoping by bloatware you didn't mean at&t or verizon style bloat, in Canada most provides are not that bad with carrier bloat. Bell is the worst and their phones are stock compared to their American counterparts! Never had a Koodo phone, and I'm planning on unlocking it and using it on Telus, so I was curious about any carrier bloat (dropbox and twitter are HTC added programs).
One more thing, with the free 25gb of storage you get with the purchase of the One V, why don't you give dropbox a try? That's a sweet amount of free cloud storage to add to google drive.
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Ah cool, I use dropbox, twitter etc.
Totally agree with root, TB, adfree to name a few are pretty much necessary!
I was hoping by bloatware you didn't mean at&t or verizon style bloat, in Canada most provides are not that bad with carrier bloat. Bell is the worst and their phones are stock compared to their American counterparts! Never had a Koodo phone, and I'm planning on unlocking it and using it on Telus, so I was curious about any carrier bloat (dropbox and twitter are HTC added programs).
One more thing, with the free 25gb of storage you get with the purchase of the One V, why don't you give dropbox a try? That's a sweet amount of free cloud storage to add to google drive.
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Just to help you out and potentially save you some money (if you unlock it through Koodo), but a locked Koodo phone will still be able to use a Telus SIM without any issues; at least, they used to last summer. I have no clue if the reverse is true, but I'd assume it would be.
I would never use that much space on my phone, I also have 4 tb of space on my home pc's. I'm not hurting.
Also to the prior post, I believe that's correct. Koodo is a subsidiary of telus so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Does anyone have the RUU for the Koodo/Telus version or know where to get it?
Thanks in advance
Well if it's easy to do, I'm up for helping.
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I would never use that much space on my phone, I also have 4 tb of space on my home pc's. I'm not hurting.
Also to the prior post, I believe that's correct. Koodo is a subsidiary of telus so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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No probs,
To TelusHTCHero as well, already knew telus / koodo were compatable as Koodo is a sub-brand of Telus running on the same network. The fact that it takes a full size sim unlike the rest of the One series is a cool selling point too, after unlocking ($14.99 btw) I can just drop the sim card in from my desire and away I go.
Telus wants to charge $289.99 no term / $189.99 2 year / $229.99 1 year. $175 Koodo no term plus $14.99 unlocking is a no brainer. I got my desire by pre-order August 2010, for the standard 3 year contract, so unless I wait another 8-12 months I will have to pay a penalty to cancel my current contract.
After buying a top of the line phone (Desire) and watching it become obsolete for all intents I will never again sign a three year term, technology moves too fast and I want my new toys sooner! The One V has a newer (though similar clocked) processor, better screen (I compared the two side by side), better camera, no storage issues like the desire, etc etc and cheaper than a Galaxy SIII on a 3 year term off contract? Sold, while waiting to see what the HTC "Two" series brings!
Cheers guys, hopefully I can join you soon as a One V owner.
You can't really compare it to an s3 though. It's only arm7 and the adreno 205.
I'm sure the s3 has a way better gpu and is an a9 cpu. That would explain the price difference. Realistically I only go with cost/performance phones and I only pay 30/month at koodo. The phone cost me 25 bucks for a great phone that has ICS. Surely a great replacement for my galaxy ace.
Hey quick question. If a ruu is uploaded here, do we need to use the WWE ones if we are from Canada? I noticed my software version is a little past the posted WWE versions.
I have no clue about compatibility or which ruu's to use so I'm a little scared attempting to tinker with my phone with no backup. Lol.
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Hey quick question. If a ruu is uploaded here, do we need to use the WWE ones if we are from Canada? I noticed my software version is a little past the posted WWE versions.
I have no clue about compatibility or which ruu's to use so I'm a little scared attempting to tinker with my phone with no backup. Lol.
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The WWE will be compatible, once you root use clockwork to do a full ROM backup and your good to go.
The only thing RUUs are good for are " warranty backups" as flashing them will lose root and s-off etc. For this, a carrier RUU is best.
If you can return it for exchange at a store, a rooted backup works, most mobile store employees wouldn't know a rooted phone If it slapped them in the face!
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So I need to unlock bootloader, then cwm, backup.. and I'll still have stock with OTA updates? I guess that's all I need.
I beleive that as soon as you unlock, you loose the OTA updates. At least that's how it is with my transformer Prime. As far as getting the phone from Koodo to get on Telus network, I don't know why you would do that as they are physically the same network, just different as virtual networks. I'm on Koodo, periodically I look the other providers and still can't get a better deal for phone + data. There is always 6 gigs a month with Fido but you need to get 3 years contract with penalty, so ---
Anyway. Coming from the optimus one this is quite a good phone. I put the mocado rom + titanium kernel, excellent combination ! You just have to manually add your APN for Koodo and here you go.
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I beleive that as soon as you unlock, you loose the OTA updates. At least that's how it is with my transformer Prime. As far as getting the phone from Koodo to get on Telus network, I don't know why you would do that as they are physically the same network, just different as virtual networks. I'm on Koodo, periodically I look the other providers and still can't get a better deal for phone + data. There is always 6 gigs a month with Fido but you need to get 3 years contract with penalty, so ---
Anyway. Coming from the optimus one this is quite a good phone. I put the mocado rom + titanium kernel, excellent combination ! You just have to manually add your APN for Koodo and here you go.
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Nope, unlocking or rooting does not stop ota updates. Loading a custom ROM would, but then again flashing custom ROMs would negate the need for ota updates anyways.
As far as using a koodo phone on Telus. I have a great plan with them, 6gb data, north American calling, voicemail to text, lots of other extras. Lastly, I signed a three year contract for my Desire September 2010, still some time left. That's the attraction of the koodo One V, $175 plus hst = $196 plus $14.95 to unlock and use my current Telus sim.
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AFAIK Koodo won't sell you a phone at that price of 175 unless you are currently in a plan with them, unfortunately.
Also I've read you shouldn't flash OTA if you root/unlock bootloader for the chance you can brick your phone
Seeing as we in Canada are stuck with version 1.66 and the rest of the world is on 2.08 I think maybe I will switch to custom roms lol. I hope development really sparks here though.
Howdy all,
First off, let me apologize if this has been brought up before, I've been diligently researching the past couple of days and couldn't find anyone that asked a similar question, so I'm asking now.
Anyways I'm looking for a new phone and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with some variant of the s4. The question now, with the release of the nexus edition being so close, I can't decide which one to go for.
I do want something as close to stock as possible, hence my interest in the nexus edition.
Normally, it'd be no question, I'd just wait it out, however I was looking on Tmobile's site last night and it seems there might have been a price drop in the full retail price? It's saying it's now 579.
It wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to flash a new rom, but at the same time, it would be kind of nice if I didn't have to worry about functionality and compatibility issues, etc...
I basically want something that doesn't have TouchWiz
Just having a little trouble deciding and would appreciate opinions.
On a somewhat related note too, is the Tmobile's online price usually the same in the store?
Thanks everyone!
It will very the same either way. If you get the normal version or the GE version. Flashing an AOSP roms will pretty much be the same. The extra sensors will not work a day and all Samsung features will be gone. Nothing really special about the GE version. It is even rumored Samsung will still control the updates. If you can wait I would hold out for the next nexus due out soon.
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sortofsleepy said:
Howdy all,
First off, let me apologize if this has been brought up before, I've been diligently researching the past couple of days and couldn't find anyone that asked a similar question, so I'm asking now.
Anyways I'm looking for a new phone and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with some variant of the s4. The question now, with the release of the nexus edition being so close, I can't decide which one to go for.
I do want something as close to stock as possible, hence my interest in the nexus edition.
Normally, it'd be no question, I'd just wait it out, however I was looking on Tmobile's site last night and it seems there might have been a price drop in the full retail price? It's saying it's now 579.
It wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to flash a new rom, but at the same time, it would be kind of nice if I didn't have to worry about functionality and compatibility issues, etc...
I basically want something that doesn't have TouchWiz
Just having a little trouble deciding and would appreciate opinions.
On a somewhat related note too, is the Tmobile's online price usually the same in the store?
Thanks everyone!
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Well I can tell you the T Mobile $579 price is available online and in stores. But I think it only lasts until July 13th.
And it's like an $80 difference between the T Mobile sale price and the Google price. Add in shipping and it's easily a $100 difference.
Yes the Nexus version will be pure AOSP and everything will work right. But you could put any of the CM or AOKP varient ROMs on the T Mobile version right now and have 99% funcationality with only an occassional hiccup here and there. They are pretty solid builds even for being early builds. And you can easily make any of those look and act like pure AOSP, with still having some of the functionality of CM under the hood if you need it.
On top of that I'd bet the Nexus version isn't out for a full day before the pure AOSP Sock rom that comes on it is available for download and flashing on your T Mobile version.
So my opinion, if you can root and mod a phone, save the $100 and buy now. Turn it into a put AOSP later.
The biggest disadvantage is that no one will push OTA updates to you. You'll have to download them and install them yourself.
Like the guy above said theres no difference between them you can flash the nexus edition roms to the carrier editions plus if you buy it now on tmobile you get it for a lot cheaper than google :good:
hmmmm all good points...
Given that I capped out of my highspeed data for this month anyways, I think I might as well wait it out just to see what happens after wed.
Thanks for the thoughts everyone, still welcoming any other opinions as well!
I echo the thoughts. With the T-Mobile version having an unlocked bootloader, all AT&T/T-Mobile bands available, and the fact that when using the proper procedures, one can flash any S4 variant's ROMs, I see no reason why NOT to save $100 or so now. Go ahead and get your S4, use CM or other AOSP type ROMs for now, then switch to pure AOSP once it's available. I don't think it will take much more than a day (if that long) after release for 100% pure AOSP to be available in some way, shape, or form for the S4.
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I echo the thoughts. With the T-Mobile version having an unlocked bootloader, all AT&T/T-Mobile bands available, and the fact that when using the proper procedures, one can flash any S4 variant's ROMs, I see no reason why NOT to save $100 or so now. Go ahead and get your S4, use CM or other AOSP type ROMs for now, then switch to pure AOSP once it's available. I don't think it will take much more than a day (if that long) after release for 100% pure AOSP to be available in some way, shape, or form for the S4.
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I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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All of the special sensors will be disabled. No IR sensors and none of the TW features will work. No it doesn't come pre-rooted. You still have to manually root it. Only the ATT version has a locked boot loader. All the rest are up locked.
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noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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T-Mobile S4 does not have a locked bootloader. It IS SIM-locked, which I believe is what you're thinking here; but that's easily fixed. Also, the M1919 is so easy to root, it really shouldn't really even enter into the consideration of whether the GE is pre-rooted or not. AT&T, Verizon, etc are the ones which have the locked bootloader and are also obviously SIM-locked as well. I swear I read somewhere that the GE S4 is going to be pretty much the M1919 but with officially supported AOSP instead of TouchWiz. Don't quote me on that, I can't find the source nor am I really looking for it, I just believe I read that somewhere...
Any S4 (minus the i9500) can run any S4's (minus the i9500 again) custom CWM/TWRP flashable ROMs without flashing radios. I'm using a T-Mobile device on Net10 prepaid (but started out using it on AT&T's network) and all I did was SIM-unlock and change the APN and I had 4G LTE on AT&T's network straight out of the box. The AT&T S4 works *better* on T-Mobile networks with the AWS band enabled, which is a modified AT&T radio; but it will still pick up most of T-Mobile's network.
As for which features/sensors AOSP won't have that TW will: all TW-specific features. The IR blaster, for one; but if it's specific to TW, don't expect the GE to have in AOSP. I don't want to make an assumption here, but I would venture to say that the sensors won't actually be disabled, they just can't be made use of in AOSP. I would think that flashing TW on the GE would more than likely enable the use of all the sensors while in TW, seeing as the closed-source drivers for those sensors would then be present... not saying that will be the case, but I don't see why it wouldn't work unless those sensors were physically removed from the device for the GE.
noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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Gagh!!!! Decided to just get the TMobile one, so I went today.
Just a FYI if you already have a TMobile account, went to two different stores today, neither would sell me a phone at the 579 price w/out moving to a more expensive plan for a month first.
sortofsleepy said:
Gagh!!!! Decided to just get the TMobile one, so I went today.
Just a FYI if you already have a TMobile account, went to two different stores today, neither would sell me a phone at the 579 price w/out moving to a more expensive plan for a month first.
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Really? I got mine on Monday while still under a contract and they were happy to sell it to me for $579 at the store. I made no changes to my plan at the time, and then today I easily switched from a contract to a cheaper no contract plan
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Skipjacks said:
Really? I got mine on Monday while still under a contract and they were happy to sell it to me for $579 at the store. I made no changes to my plan at the time, and then today I easily switched from a contract to a cheaper no contract plan
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Sadly yes. I think the reason it I couldn't get it is cause I have that $30 a month prepaid plan and I guess they can't sell em to people on prepaid for some weird reason? I may try other stores tomorrow.
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Sadly yes. I think the reason it I couldn't get it is cause I have that $30 a month prepaid plan and I guess they can't sell em to people on prepaid for some weird reason? I may try other stores tomorrow.
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Oh. Yeah the 579 clearly only applies with the sign up or continuation of a qualifying plan.
The prepaid plans are not qualifying. So the rule is not that you have to get a more expensive plan to get the deal, but the qualifying plans are all more expensive than your current one.
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Got mine for $128 no problem with $20 x 24 months
Skipjacks said:
Oh. Yeah the 579 clearly only applies with the sign up or continuation of a qualifying plan.
The prepaid plans are not qualifying. So the rule is not that you have to get a more expensive plan to get the deal, but the qualifying plans are all more expensive than your current one.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Drat! heh. I normally wouldn't mind swapping plans but given the price and the fact I mostly use data, and very rarely use it as a phone, I'm kinda kneen on keeping my plan.
They said they could swap me back to my current plan after the month is up but I'm a bit wary of that idea since it was kinda troublesome to get it in the first place.
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Drat! heh. I normally wouldn't mind swapping plans but given the price and the fact I mostly use data, and very rarely use it as a phone, I'm kinda kneen on keeping my plan.
They said they could swap me back to my current plan after the month is up but I'm a bit wary of that idea since it was kinda troublesome to get it in the first place.
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Or just okay the $629 full price at the store. Spend the extra $50 on the device and keep your insanely low rate plan.
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Can anyone confirm for certain that the tmo version will be able to use the Nexus edition roms immediately? I don't see where there would be a problem, just want to confirm.
I would love to buy a sgs4 but I would also like to use the latest Android right away. Currently on my nexus devices, I can flash something the day it comes out. Likely that will be the same for the sgs4 Google edition, which makes sense it would translate over to the tmo version as well. So in theory, you could flash within a day or so of the sgs4 version coming out. Thoughts?
Also, has anyone confirmed they will release the source as well?
It sounds like best case scenario, I could run my sgs4 either touchwiz or aosp bug free. With prompt Google releases
Why would anyone buy the Google edition one then? Clearly you can get it cheaper elsewhere with the same functionality
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Can anyone confirm for certain that the tmo version will be able to use the Nexus edition roms immediately? I don't see where there would be a problem, just want to confirm.
I would love to buy a sgs4 but I would also like to use the latest Android right away. Currently on my nexus devices, I can flash something the day it comes out. Likely that will be the same for the sgs4 Google edition, which makes sense it would translate over to the tmo version as well. So in theory, you could flash within a day or so of the sgs4 version coming out. Thoughts?
Also, has anyone confirmed they will release the source as well?
It sounds like best case scenario, I could run my sgs4 either touchwiz or aosp bug free. With prompt Google releases
Why would anyone buy the Google edition one then? Clearly you can get it cheaper elsewhere with the same functionality
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Immediately? No. But I would bet heavily that the updates will be available here on xda within a day or two of the ota pushes.
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Just wondering if/when we can flash AOSP from the Google Edition that it will somehow repartition the device to be able to use all the space since even with CM right now only about 9.75 GB is usable.
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Just wondering if/when we can flash AOSP from the Google Edition that it will somehow repartition the device to be able to use all the space since even with CM right now only about 9.75 GB is usable.
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My previous phone was the galaxy s4 sgh-i337. Thanks to you guy's I was able to root, and install ss. I was under the impression that all ATT phones where boot locked, but I have seen some htc m8 say unlocked.
I am confused. I recently changed over to T-Mobile, due to data overages, and locked boot.
My question is can I buy any of the variants and be safe? or should I stick with a T-Mobile branded version.
All versions of the M8 are bootloader locked (with exception of Developer's Edition), but can be easily unlocked via official means through HTC's website HTCDev.com. Once bootloader unlocked you can flash custom recovery, root, flash custom ROMs, and lots of other things. Not nearly as locked down as recent Samsung devices on AT&T.
If you are on T-Mobile, you should probably get the T-Mobile branded version if you want a phone that is compatible with T-Mobile's bands, out of the box.
You can flash the T-Mob radio to an AT&t version, but S-off is required ($25 via sunshine). Not worth having to mod the phone to get it fully running on T-Mob, if you can just buy the T-Mob version. There really isn't any benefit to getting the AT&T variant.
Awesome thanks for the reply. I looked again at some phones, and noticed the nexus 6. It looks good too. I know its more expensive, but is there a reason to choose the htc over the nexus 6?
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I know its more expensive, but is there a reason to choose the htc over the nexus 6?
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N6 is a very nice looking phone, and Nexus OS updates is certainly a nice perk. And some reviews compare the front-facing speakers on the N6 as being comparable ("almost" as good) to the impressive BoomSound speakers on the M8.
On the other hand, the N6 is really big, so you might want to make sure you are okay with that before buying. And while still very nice, the N6's back is plastic, so you may want to compare it in hand to the gorgeous metal M8.
The camera on the N6 is described as "average"; although the M8's camera is pretty divisive, as well.
All in all, I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both are excellent phones. Aside from sheer size difference, it comes down to some pretty subtle, and rather preferential differences.
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N6 is a very nice looking phone, and Nexus OS updates is certainly a nice perk. And some reviews compare the front-facing speakers on the N6 as being comparable ("almost" as good) to the impressive BoomSound speakers on the M8.
On the other hand, the N6 is really big, so you might want to make sure you are okay with that before buying. And while still very nice, the N6's back is plastic, so you may want to compare it in hand to the gorgeous metal M8.
The camera on the N6 is described as "average"; although the M8's camera is pretty divisive, as well.
All in all, I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both are excellent phones. Aside from sheer size difference, it comes down to some pretty subtle, and rather preferential differences.
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Once again thank you. I will check them out in person. I may still go for the m8. Don't know if I really want to drop 6-700 on a phone.
Is there anything special about the Harmon kardon edition other than the headphones?
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Is there anything special about the Harmon kardon edition other than the headphones?
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Yes. The audio libs and ADSP are different than stock BoomSound. If you get S-Off you can convert to H/K and back to BoomSound again, so if you have nice headphones already, the standard model should do. But the H/K headphones are a pretty good deal for the small markup in price.
I'm finding some better deals on the HK edition, than I am the regular htc. I like the look and feel of the grey standard one. Is it possible to turn a regular one into the HK edition? I plan on custom installs and everything. I don't have a good pair of headphones. The ones that come with the hk edition are good from what I can tell. I am on T-Mobile, so I would have to flash it to T-Mobile. Is this a problem? I'm just trying to get all the answers before I buy.
Thanks again.
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I'm finding some better deals on the HK edition, than I am the regular htc. I like the look and feel of the grey standard one. Is it possible to turn a regular one into the HK edition? I plan on custom installs and everything. I don't have a good pair of headphones. The ones that come with the hk edition are good from what I can tell. I am on T-Mobile, so I would have to flash it to T-Mobile. Is this a problem? I'm just trying to get all the answers before I buy.
Thanks again.
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If you are rooting, then yes you can flash the H/K mod. You will need to be S-Off to do it, and that costs $25 from Sunshine (it's the only way now). It's totally worth it though to pay for. Besides getting the H/K sound, you will always be able to stay on top of the latest firmware. Otherwise to update it you have to flash a stock backup, a stock recovery, take the OTA (when it comes available), then go through the rooting process again. With S-Off, you just flash a firmware.zip and you are done.
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I'm finding some better deals on the HK edition, than I am the regular htc. I like the look and feel of the grey standard one. Is it possible to turn a regular one into the HK edition? I plan on custom installs and everything. I don't have a good pair of headphones. The ones that come with the hk edition are good from what I can tell. I am on T-Mobile, so I would have to flash it to T-Mobile. Is this a problem? I'm just trying to get all the answers before I buy.
Thanks again.
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I don't recommend getting a Sprint phone if you have T-mobile
So $25 from Sunshine is the only way to fully unlock an HTC now? It seems the more I find out about root, custom roms, and anything else we want to do with our phones is becoming more and more ridiculous to do.
I got off ATT because I was tired of knox, and have been researching that them and Verizon were the ones you didn't want because of the encrypted bootloaders. I got T-Mobile because from what I read they do not encrypt their bootloaders.
I was real excited to be able to customize my phone however I wanted. Im still new to all of this. The only phone I have ever modded was the sgh-i337.
Am I going to have spend 25 bucks every time I want to customize or reload something?
Sorry if i'm coming across as ungrateful or something. It's just that with the experience with the i337 I thought I was past that stuff.
You can root and unlock without s-off. You're just slightly limited to android version, for example. Once htc update to lollipop that particular problem will end. The cost is unfortunate but justified.
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So $25 from Sunshine is the only way to fully unlock an HTC now? It seems the more I find out about root, custom roms, and anything else we want to do with our phones is becoming more and more ridiculous to do.
I got off ATT because I was tired of knox, and have been researching that them and Verizon were the ones you didn't want because of the encrypted bootloaders. I got T-Mobile because from what I read they do not encrypt their bootloaders.
I was real excited to be able to customize my phone however I wanted. Im still new to all of this. The only phone I have ever modded was the sgh-i337.
Am I going to have spend 25 bucks every time I want to customize or reload something?
Sorry if i'm coming across as ungrateful or something. It's just that with the experience with the i337 I thought I was past that stuff.
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Samsung is the one with "locked bootloaders" All the recent HTC Phones have bootloader unlock Via HTCDEV.com you just have to create an account and go through a few steps to unlock. Unlocked Sim is totally different and has nothing to do with htc. All the carriers have some forum of Sim lock so their no advantage of one over the other. Whats important to note is the 2 different Radio technologies used by the different carriers. GSM = T-mobile / AT&T / International / Developer Edition / Rogers / Vodaphone and/or CDMA = Verizon / Sprint / Boost / Virgin Mobile
The Sim Unlocked GSM One is the most desirable. And if Wifi calling is important to you only the T-mobile model will support it out of the box.
As For the S-Off that all depends on how you use the phone. I don't recommend everyone get s-off. But at some point if you need to return the phone to Stock for warranty proposes S-Off will be necessary.
S-Off is only done to a Device One time, their is no need to ever turn it back to s-on
S-Off allows you to change your CID / MID and firmware that you can't normally use / Do
This allows you to say convert your AT&T phone into a GPe or a Developer Edition and receive OTA updates the same as they do. I hope this clears some things up for you.
I will probly s-off anyway. I just thought there was another way to do it.
@clsA thanks for the clarification. So to make sure I got this right...
I only need s-off if I plan on converting the phone to developer or such. without s-off I will still be able to root, install custom recovery such s philz, or twrp correct?
Aswell as any custom rom.
TireIron431 said:
I will probly s-off anyway. I just thought there was another way to do it.
@clsA thanks for the clarification. So to make sure I got this right...
I only need s-off if I plan on converting the phone to developer or such. without s-off I will still be able to root, install custom recovery such s philz, or twrp correct?
Aswell as any custom rom.
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Yes, you can still use Sunshine to unlock and s-off if that's what you choose. but not needed to just flash roms
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I will probly s-off anyway. I just thought there was another way to do it.
@clsA thanks for the clarification. So to make sure I got this right...
I only need s-off if I plan on converting the phone to developer or such. without s-off I will still be able to root, install custom recovery such s philz, or twrp correct?
Aswell as any custom rom.
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You will also be able to flash the newest versions of firmware way before your carrier updates, and therefore run the newest versions of ROMs without worrying a out not getting wifi and connection issues.
Awesome thanks for the assist guys.
another question. I was looking at the E8, and noticed they are very similar except the E8 has a way better camera. Would I be able to use it, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Also I like the look and feel of the gun grey m8, could I buy an m8 body casing and just switch it out? or is it to much trouble and not worth my time?
I'd get the AT&T branded M8 as it has more bands and should support T-Mobile LTE in your area (atleast mine does).
The extra bands may be beneficial if you switch carriers down the road.
Will I be able to use wifi calling with the ATT version?
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Will I be able to use wifi calling with the ATT version?
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No its only on the t-mobile software
I've been running on an M9 for the past two years, and with the HTC11 coming around the corner, pricing on the 10 becomes very tempting. But I might be switching carriers from AT&T to Verizon, so I need to know if there's any difference now between the phones, or if they're all 'multi-carrier' at this point. IOW, do I need to look for a specific Verizon-variant or AT&T-variant, or is there no difference anymore?
Thanks in advance!
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I've been running on an M9 for the past two years, and with the HTC11 coming around the corner, pricing on the 10 becomes very tempting. But I might be switching carriers from AT&T to Verizon, so I need to know if there's any difference now between the phones, or if they're all 'multi-carrier' at this point. IOW, do I need to look for a specific Verizon-variant or AT&T-variant, or is there no difference anymore?
Thanks in advance!
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Verizon one is a CDMA variant, it supports most but not all of the Unlocked version LTE bands. Also you're at the mercy of VZW for software updates (they haven't even updated to Nougat yet).
On the other hand, the Verizon variant works with all their network features (e.g advanced calling) out of the box. To get the Unlocked version working on the VZW network, you'd have have s-off first and flash new radios. This isn't difficult to do, but beware of the added cost of having to S-off.
So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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Yes but the GSM one (referred to as U.S Unlocked) is not make specifically or only for AT&T, if that's what you mean. It's sold by HTC for use on any gsm network.
I believe there is also a version from Sprint that is a CDMA variant.
Edited my original post to say the Verizon variant doesn't support all of the Unlocked version LTE bands.
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So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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Tarima said:
Yes but the GSM one (referred to as U.S Unlocked) is not make specifically or only for AT&T, if that's what you mean. It's sold by HTC for use on any gsm network.
I believe there is also a version from Sprint that is a CDMA variant.
Edited my original post to say the Verizon variant doesn't support all of the Unlocked version LTE bands.
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Hardware wise all models are the same. With S-OFF you can convert your model to any other.
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Hardware wise all models are the same. With S-OFF you can convert your model to any other.
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So what you're saying is that the radio can operate on all bands, and I could theoretically buy a 'Verizon' model, re-flash the radio, and it becomes a fully functional AT&T model?
I'm asking, because back in the day, the radio hardware was different. Ive flashed ROM and radio combinations for my Inspire/Desire and M7. My present M9 is a bit of a disappointment, only because I'll never again buy a phone with a camera that lacks OIS. Hence my interest in the M10.
Unless, of course, the purported HTC11 us a world-beater, but truthfully, I'm not confident.
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So what you're saying is that the radio can operate on all bands, and I could theoretically buy a 'Verizon' model, re-flash the radio, and it becomes a fully functional AT&T model?
I'm asking, because back in the day, the radio hardware was different. Ive flashed ROM and radio combinations for my Inspire/Desire and M7. My present M9 is a bit of a disappointment, only because I'll never again buy a phone with a camera that lacks OIS. Hence my interest in the M10.
Unless, of course, the purported HTC11 us a world-beater, but truthfully, I'm not confident.
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yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
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yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
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Got it. I did Sunshine for my M9, and it was great. I'll wait to see what HTC does with the upcoming 11, and unless it's incredible - and worth $400 more than a NIB 10, I'll probably go with the 10 to save money and get a camera I can live with. It's hard to imagine what not having OIS can do to your pictures.
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yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
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Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
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Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
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Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
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Seems the best price on FleaBay is about $430 with no warranty, but HTC has them for $499 brand new direct, probably because the Ocean is to be released in about three weeks.
I wonder if it makes sense to wait for the price to drop further, or buy now with a direct purchase in the hope of getting price protection and/or a warranty.
Does HTC include any warranty when buying from them?
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BillTheCat said:
Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
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Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
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be aware that it will just work on the verizon variant, when it is running marshmallow. temp root is patched on verizon when it is running nougat, means only way to s-off would be a javacard/mail in service handled by @jcase for example.