[Q] USB Memory Stick. - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

Hi.
Can someone tell me what the maximum size memory stick I can attach to my Note 10.1 via a OTG cable as I would like to take some ripped DVD/Blu Ray films with me on holiday, just in case the weather intervenes.
Thanks

I dont think there is a limit as I can connect my 2tb portable hdd with no problems. Have tried a 128gb memory stick and that works with no issues.

Marshall1975 said:
I dont think there is a limit as I can connect my 2tb portable hdd with no problems. Have tried a 128gb memory stick and that works with no issues.
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Thank you very much indeed.

I've tried a 1TB HDD and it worked just fine. It isn't a flash drive (AKA USB Memory Stick), but if it worked, then I'd say that the only limit you have is the limit of the max capacity that the manufacturers use.
Just be sure that whatever you use is formatted as FAT32 or else it won't read.
NTFS won't read for certain.

Good advice on the formatting of the HDD. Personally I use ExFat. Better for handling larger capacity disks and the note is perfectly happy with it.

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Can't seem to use external hard drive on my Tab 3

Having trouble accessing external hard drive. I have a USB thumbdrive, formatted to FAT32, and the tab will not even detect it. I tried a external hard drive, it has its own power adapter, formatted to fat32, still can't see it. The USB and External Hard Drive works fine on my S3 and my Note 3. Is this a hardware limitation?
F9zSlavik said:
Having trouble accessing external hard drive. I have a USB thumbdrive, formatted to FAT32, and the tab will not even detect it. I tried a external hard drive, it has its own power adapter, formatted to fat32, still can't see it. The USB and External Hard Drive works fine on my S3 and my Note 3. Is this a hardware limitation?
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AFAIK yes, the ground pin is left out, so no hardware support plus kernel support is missing in standard ROMs as well. See this thread as well. Someone said you can build a special USB OTG cable with own power support, but I haven't tried for myself.
My S3 and 3 8.0 both detect my 16gb thumb drive using the Samsung dongle.
I will probably get a 32gb thumb drive today, and also test it.
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Biggest Flash drive?

I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub
Anyone?
Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb
128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
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There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
Guntert said:
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.
Can't wait to see what u find
I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.
Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.

[Q] Recommended External Storage?

I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
IMHO without root you can not use any external media since USB mounting is not supported out-of-the-box.
Raymondo17 said:
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which
is IMHO totaly fine.
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
Calibaan said:
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
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Your device must be rooted.
Ah, OK so nothing new. Thought I´ve missed something.
I'm using an older Western Digital My Passport 320gb and mounted my internal data to it. I connected it to a small powered hub and also have a wireless mouse/keyboard dongle and wireless game controller connected to the hub. It works wonderfully. Only a slight delay compared to having data still on the FTV itself.
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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Exactly. I first tried a flash drive I had laying around. It turned my FTV into a slow crawl.
derpeter said:
I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which is IMHO totaly fine.
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Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
Raymondo17 said:
Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
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Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
derpeter said:
Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
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Excellent. Thanks for the info.
I used my old 128gb ssd samsung evo 840 as whole System. fast like normal System. No slowdown. i use an active usb 4 Port hub also connected Xbox 360 Wireless Transmitter usb dongle for Wireless mouse+Keyboard. One Thinge i can't use a Second harddrive as external.
dowsn't Sebamed to work as i use datatousb from cwm Post. Maybe only usererror. bussymount killed my Setup (Boot from usb)
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USB3 Support?

Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?
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Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?
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For now there is no support for 3.0 whatsoever on these units. Some people however did report a 1TB external HDD to be supported, most likely externaly powered.
None include usb3.0 ports. Your harddrive should still be backward compatible and run at the slower speed, however would need a power source as provided power is weak

Power pass thru with a Seagate Slim.

Hi all,
So, I just picked up a Samsung Tab S4, near new (in box), at my local pawn shop for $280.
It had no sign of ever having been used, smokin' deal, eh?
Quite the upgrade from my Fire 10, no?
I also found a likewise near new (in box), still wrapped in plastic, Seagate Slim (2 TB) for $20.
On a roll, right?
So, I've come here to ask...
1)Is it possible to view video directly off the hd?
2)If so, what power pass thru cable or dongle has anyone found to work well?
3)Lastly, for power I would like to be portable, so would a standard brick work or do I need a PD or IQ specific type?
I see there are plenty of dongles out there ranging from $15 - $75...any suggestions?
Simplest setup would work for me, especially if there was a cable alone I could use, I don't need a ton of ports.
Thanks, really!
Bill in Western Colorado
So the short answer is yes you can play videos. The long answer is that your drive is likely formatted NTFS and while there are work around and apps that will let you utilize drives formatted as NTFS, I've found it just isn't reliable, convenient or consistent using an NTFS drive. Mine is a 1 TB drive. The problem with Fat32 is that there are partition size restrictions and file size restrictions - there are supposedly work arounds for the partition size limits, but files can't be bigger than 4GB. And some video files, particularly iso's, are bigger than 4GB. I think you are better off buying a 512gb or 1tb micro sd card and storing the video locally.
There are multiple threads discussing power formats and powered usb hubs. Mostly the hube will have full size usb 3.0 ports.
Power is complicated. Samsung does not use / is not compatible with PD or iq, and is not fully compatible with QC. They use a modified version of QC 2.0.
Here are some threads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...st-combination-charger-hdmi-adapters-t3927308
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/accessories/power-supplies-tab-s4-t3891637
This is a few months old, but I thought I would revisit my reply. I may have been too quickly dismissive of the external hard drive idea.
I have a 1TB external USB 3.1 drive. It was formatted NTFS, and did Not play well with Android, even using Paragon's NTFS for Android. As I pointed out, exFat is restricted to 4GB max file size, and I had some ISO disk images on my drive. I had a total of about 600GB on the drive, about half video back up, the other half split between music library backup, twentyish years of digital images, and twentyish years of desktop document backups. The data I use most is my 3000+ book Calibre library. I also had two full size internal hard drives that I had pulled from my last desktop (and never replaced), along with a SATA1 to USB 3.0 powered adaptor.
So I backed up the video to one of the 500GB drives, the rest to the other, and reformatted the 1TB drive as exFat32. Then I copied the video excluding the few large ISO images along with "the rest" back to the reformatted 1TB drive. I was surprised there weren't any other files > 4GB.
I have two cables for the 1TB hard drive -- it has a wide bladed "micro B" port that carries power and data simultaneously. I have a USB 3.0 to micro B, and a USB C to micro B. So it works well, with both cables. With a hub, I can plug power + USB 3.0 hard drive cable to the tablet. With the USB C cable I can directly connect the hard drive to the tablet, and have experienced no problems with power delivery -- drive works fine, no stutters, but I don't know how fast the drain on the battery is. Certianly, you can copy files back and forth without issue. Browsing with Solid Explorer works well.
I still think you are better served with internal micro SD memory. I recently upgraded my 400GB micro SD card to a faster, 512GB PNY card for $90.
Many USB C hubs also have a micro SD card slot, so you can turn the hubs directly into a solid state hard drive with a cheap micro SD card -- if you have an old card, like I have the 400GB card I pulled, or you can buy a newer 256GB card for under $50. I have to imagine the power draw is much less, and the form factor is greatly superior -- my USB C Hub is ~ 40% smaller in volume, and is only 40gm versus 170gm for the hard drive (that is, a little under 2oz, and the hard drive is a little over 6oz). The micro SD card slot on the hub is spring loaded, and when it is loaded, the front of the card is virtually flush with the front of the hub. And it is easy to pop it into and SD card adaptor to put into a laptop.
Take care,
Joe

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