Several KEY Qs about which SM-Pxxx to buy... - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

currently saving up.. if fate allows i plan on getting a SGN 10.1-2014ed to replace my twice dying Kocaso M870.
over the past 3 months ive done quite a bit of research through mags and android sites claiming this to be the best tablet around especially in terms of functionality.
several minor reviews and 2 hour long reviews posted on youtube with the earlier information has convinced me this is the direction i want to go.
im a gamer.. artist.. and one heck of a multi tasker that hopes to become a dedicated streamer in the future... this tab will help with all these things.
my key issues is what model of the SM-Pxxx series to get...
Firstly.. im located in the US.. and will only buy from certified reliable retailers.
this means amazon and ebvay and thier china hackware and voided warrentys are totally out of the question.
Im as of current.. stuck with best buy and thier 50$ off sale of the SM-P600 32gb-black..
16gb is a joke being the OS itself takes up 8 gigs...
i looked into the 64gb version.. but simply put.. it dont exsist.
3g.. and lte versions.. dont exsist.
before being flamed.. please hear me out.
according to samsung.. LTE ONLY comes in 32 and 64gbs models.. yet ALL the amazon LTE models are 16gb..
even the description on the amazon sales page STATES the device has been opened and modified.
and most importantly.. youtube videos of the so called LTE versions are A) all in german..
B) ALL have thier "unboxing" comming from an unsealed box... C) all having 16 gb-wifi listed on the front of the box AND the screen protector.. D) the screen protector has NO mention of 3G or LTE while the back of the box mentions LTE at the side of the list.
simply put.. these LTE versions are NOT the real deal. its a china sweatshop gettingthe cheapest 16gb model.. cracking the tablet open.. thus voiding its warrenty.. and adding a LTE antenna from some cheap cellphone... so they can sell a 550$ tablet for 800$... huge profit.
And its a mess i intend to avoid.
And from what ive seen.. the 3G model has only recently been leaked that vorizon will be its carrier.. and any "news" of the LTE version.. or the release date for EITHER version is simply non exsistant through official channels.
all this in mind..
Doi keep saving for the SM-P600 and be happy wiht a legit tablet..
Do i wait and hope that the 601 or 605 release in the near future before this dying tablet stops booting up...
and if i wait.. being i cant afford the cell phone bill as i never call ANYONE.. what would the 601-605 offer me that the 600 series dont already offer save a slightly faster processor?
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DFStormbringer said:
My key issues is what model of the SM-Pxxx series to get...
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This might be simpler than you think. The only device authorized to be sold by Samsung in the U.S. is the P-600. Anyone selling a P-601/5 has imported it and it comes with no warranty from Samsung as it's considered grey market. I have a P-601 I got from Negri and it's from Trinidad. Knowing it has no warranty I insured it through SquareTrade. That's an option for you too if you buy from someone like Expansys, Negri, or NewEgg. You can get SquareTrade on eBay items too if you do it at check-out. But if you're looking for warranty support from Samsung your only choice is buying a P-600 from an authorized Samsung reseller. VZW's releasing their version of the P-605 (LTE) soon but it'll cost you an arm and a leg. If you weren't aware, the imported P-605's don't support the U.S. LTE bands so you'll be stuck using HSPA. And both it and the P-601 work fine on AT&T but only work on T-Mobile in markets they've re-farmed to 1,900MHz. I get about 5-8MB download speeds using my P-601 on AT&T.

I have the Verizon 4G LTE model SM-P605V. Thinking that it will make phone calls, turns out it doesn't. LTE is fast however, just pop a 4G sim card in.
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The P605 does exist in 16gb. It can be purchased in a number of reputable chain stores both here in new Zealand and also in Australia. It's likely an Asia Pacific only model though as we are part of that region.
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Galaxy Nexus Carriers & prices?

I've seen all manner of speculation on the subject of which carriers, specifically, are going to be carrying the Galaxy Nexus, but the majority of it is conflicting reports.
Does anyone have good links or intel on where the Nexus will be available, carrier-wise?
http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim...s-sim-free-unlocked-mobile-phone-p-83950.html
512.98£ but managed to get it preordered for 480£ next day delivery.
Hope they will not increase the price on me
The US dollar has dropped so much in value that everything in the EU will look very expensive. We also have higher VAT than you do (25% in Sweden).
$1 ~= 6.65 SEK according to Google. When all things are added we usually pay something like your dollar price with a conversion rate of 10, instead if 6.65.
In summary, the prices listed above is somewhere around what we paid for the previous Nexus-phones. Your prices are likely to not take the low currency value into account, like most other electronics.
OK I am going to just throw my two cents in.
This phone should technically work on all four US carries. (Verizon, Sprint, Att, and TMobile).
As for the LTE coverage I am not sure about Att's LTE spectrum matching with Verizon.
But the planned Sprint LTE spectrum and Verizon's does not match.
That just means that the first version of the SGN would not support LTE on Sprint.
The GSM version of the phone should work on both the ATT and TMobile networks.
I hope that the SGN comes to all four major carries as Apple is already on four US carries. (Att, Verizon, Sprint, and C Spire "Soon").
I have Sprint and would get this phone as soon as it was available.
I would not switch networks just for a phone.
Agreed, the move to Yamaha was probably the only regression in an otherwise great phone.
According to supercurio from today's Engadget article its a Texas Instruments TWL6040. How this compares to the Wolfson DAC I do not know.
I really hope its good because I am very satisfied with the sound quality out of my Nexus S with voodoo sound and good IEMs. I use my phone more as a GPS and PMP than as a phone.
Anyone have experience with Expansys? I placed a pre order with them just to have it in. I'm not even sure if that's for a LTE or GSM one, but I hope it's GSM haha.
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Expansys seems to expensive... much cheaper to order over seas and have them ship here. 779$ vs 680 $ from UK retailers.
all these preorder sites are for the GSM version of the device right?..
halfnelson117 said:
Expansys seems to expensive... much cheaper to order over seas and have them ship here. 779$ vs 680 $ from UK retailers.
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It will not cost that much in the US though. Expect somewhere around $529-$550 most likely. I explained this above.
halfnelson117 said:
Expansys seems to expensive... much cheaper to order over seas and have them ship here. 779$ vs 680 $ from UK retailers.
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Yah, their expensive, but I'm assuming they will adjust their price once the true price is reveiled.
I was just curious about how their customer service and shipping is, if anyone has ordered from them.
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all these preorder sites are for the GSM version of the device right?..
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I sure hope so!!
What other site has preorders besides expansys?
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K Rich said:
I sure hope so!!
What other site has preorders besides expansys?
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*sigh*, If i could drop how ever much money I need to drop to reserve the VZW/LTE version I would right now
K Rich said:
I sure hope so!!
What other site has preorders besides expansys?
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Clove has it available for 429GBP pre-order.
http://goo.gl/oewUS
I've bought a couple of phones from them over the years.. service always excellent.
T-Mobile Please, at least GSM version so we can buy unlocked on first day and for a decent price.
I definitely think that Sprint is getting it, but the question is when
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I think Google will show T-Mobile some love. Look at the history they have together: The first US Android phone was released on their network and both Nexus branded phones were also released with T-Mobile exclusivity before branching out to other networks. I doubt it'll enjoy the same nod that Google showed them in the past with temporary exclusivity, but I highly doubt they'll be left in the dark for more than a few weeks to a month at most.
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I think Google will show T-Mobile some love. Look at the history they have together: The first US Android phone was released on their network and both Nexus branded phones were also released with T-Mobile exclusivity before branching out to other networks. I doubt it'll enjoy the same nod that Google showed them in the past with temporary exclusivity, but I highly doubt they'll be left in the dark for more than a few weeks to a month at most.
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I think so too. By looking at the introduction and specs it shows a model "T"... GT-I9250T. Like our Nexus S for T-Mo is the GT-I9020T.
32 gig version €560,- in holland...
6 weeks of waiting...
http://www.belsimpel.nl/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-i9250-Black#volledige-specificaties
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pastuch said:
I'm really frustrated by most manufacturers reporting the specs of a device without including Digital Audio Converter information.
The Yamaha DAC and amp in the Galaxy S II and Hercules is total ****. (I own an SGS2)
If anyone knows what audio DAC the Galaxy Nexus uses please share it with the rest of us. I really hope it's a Wolfson DAC... The original Galaxy S and Nexus S with Voodoo sound absolutely incredible.
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I am 100% with you. This is the deciding factor for me.
No off contract price yet for gsm
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Where to buy?

So after almos 2 years im looking to change my htc incredible, because it feels old and slow compared with recent phones, and my carrier is offering both CMDA and GSM (i feel more comfortable with gsm) and i've always been a fan of qwerty phones,and seeing that HTC isnt going to release an android qwerty phone anytime soon, i checked the specs of the captivate glide and realise that its is really impressive better than the droid 3, cheaper than the droid 4.
im almost convinced to buy it, but before that i would like to clarify two things, one i really would like advice from regular and power users here at xda pros and cons, if it is worth it, or if should i save some extra money to buy the droid 4 (hate motoblur and there's no networks offering LTE on my country.) and the other thing is if anyone knows a reliable place where i can buy it online im from mexico, i have no problems with an glide with the at&t brand, but i've also read that the "rogers" glide doesnt have any brand. but i really dont know where to buy it.
i checked this site (www.negrielectronics.com)and they have it listed but i dont know if its realiable.
any help would be apreciated.
There's one for sale in the Marketplace here on XDA, I believe. You could start there. I upgraded from a T-Mobile G2 and haven't looked back since. The more we get out there, the better. CarpeNoctem has put out a great little ROM for it (OsiMood) and that paired with the Cranium Kernel and Go Launcher has really got me going! I can't make an honest recommendation comparing to Droids, as my only experience with them has been futzing with one of my client's original Droid and his new Droid3, haven't really gotten any regular use time with them...
One further thing, I would check which CDMA and GSM bands your carrier is offering, I believe if I recall correctly that the i927 does not support T-Mobile's 3G band, so you'd be stuck with EDGE for 3G, which is significantly slower...
Good luck, and I hope you love your new phone as much as I love mine
L4T
I think its better than Droid 3..
Haven't tried Droid 4..
If facebranding is not a problem, you can go for at&t model as you can get it cheaper than Rogers..
One of my friend had got a phone through Negri electronics.. So far it is the only site I have come across which ships to almost all the countries..
Also try Ebay.. I got mine for 400$ in an auction.. + additional shipping, duty and unlocking charges..
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talcko said:
(www.negrielectronics.com)
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Sorry, meant to say something about this in my above post - Negri spams the hell out of Craigslist, at least local to me, I wouldn't buy from them for just this reason. If you can't find one here on the XDA Marketplace, I recommend Swappa or Amazon (though you'd probably end up paying more at either of those)
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thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
talcko said:
thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
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The phone feels great in my hands, just the perfect size and I have a SGS II which feels too big in comparison, it is comfortable with the keyboard slides out as well. The battery life is the best I've encountered of any android phone so far.
Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (unlocked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
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Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (locked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
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+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
talcko said:
+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
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So, have you been checking the aforementioned websites all this time?
Negrielectronics wrote me that they can't estimate the backorder time and they invited me to check their website daily. does it mean that the backorder waiting time has been going on for (at least) one month?
Thats right, ive been checking negri almost every day for about a month and they havent re stock it. To bad cuz i really would like yo buy a captivate glide.
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Too bad.
Just to add: rogers.com sells this phone, by the name of Samsung Galaxy S Glide.
Still need to be unlocked, but rogers.com should be more trustworthy than canadagsm.
I also wrote an email to canadagsm, just to ask a couple of questions. Waiting
Update:
canadagsm.ca deals only with unlocked phones. That's great.
Still i don't know if it is a trustworthy supplier or not. Their prices are beaten only by negrielectronics, so they're quite good.
But i don't know if I can trust them. Anyway, they accept Paypal.
I bought mine unlocked from Amazon Wireless, it's being forwarded from the US to the United Arab Emirates with ShopandShip.com.
Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
sbiricuda said:
Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
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you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
talcko said:
you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
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I'm from Italy.
I'll have it shipped to an import/export company that is located in Florida. They'll ship it to me.
Their name is consegnato.com and they offer the service for Italy (shipping and enregistering under europen laws).
Well I got the phone, really liking the build quality and performance, which is no different to a Galaxy S II
Now the challenging part, it's asking for a network code. I bought this unlocked and was not expecting this. I've contacted Amazon Wireless, lets see what they say.
I've had the same problems as you guys, www.negrielectronics.com, it's in fact a reliable site, but they are, like you said before, out of stock, www.canadagsm.com, in fact, have the Galaxy S Glide, Unlocked, tried to order, but have some problems, because, like sbiricuda, I've send my phones to a Courrier in Florida, that send the package to Chile, from where my partner picks it up, and bring it to Argentina for me. And, the guys over www.canadagsm.com, told me that they only send to the same address of your PayPal account, so, I just couldn't close the deal.
Ended up buying it to cellularworld2008 on www.ebay.ca.
Amazon Wireless rep. replied, they said I can return the phone for a full refund or call AT&T to get the unlock code. Looks like I'll have to unlock it myself!
Amazon Wireless has now changed "Unlocked" to "Upgrade" when you buy that phone full price.
*sigh*
I bought a Locked phone, so I was aware that I have to unlock it after reception when I did it.
I know that it is annoying but I suggest to get an unlock code from americanunlocker or cellunlocker. It looks cheaper than sending the phone back or calling AT&T from your country. If you do, please share your experience with them!

[Q] Is USA version of GNEX same hardware as I9250?

I was looking at the Specifications and the US Version does not list 900 Mhz in 3g radio.
From play.google.com
NETWORK
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 21
When i bought I9250, the specifications listed were:
Connectivity
Wireless Radio
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
So, are US Version and Internation Version same Hardware or is the US version really missing the 900 Mhz UMTS radio?
- Sarvesh
Everyone says it's a typo that it should be the same. Lots of people asking that
Don't bait the trolls.
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Everyone says it's a typo that it should be the same. Lots of people asking that
Don't bait the trolls.
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+1. Yup just a typo.
Thanks
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On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?
propain4444 said:
On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?
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I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.
Good idea... i had never thought about contacting them directly.
greeced said:
I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.
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Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
That said, I'm not sure on the status now that it's being sold in the U.S. via the Play store. I am sure they will have you verify purchase from the Play store or something similar for warranty service.
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Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
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So, does this mean, now that it's for sale in the play store, i can buy the i9250 from Amazon without concerns of warranty? (or, i should still contact samsung)
greeced said:
I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.
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So, does this mean, now that it's for sale in the play store, i can buy the i9250 from Amazon without concerns of warranty? (or, i should still contact samsung)
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I'm not sure on this. They may have you verify the purchase from the actual Play store itself somehow.
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I'm not sure on this. They may have you verify the purchase from the actual Play store itself somehow.
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I just talked to Samsung. The model numbers are the same (i9250) for both international and domestic phones, however Samsung USA keeps separate records for both. So, in the case of the int'l version you would not be able to get warranty service through Samsung USA. However the rep said:
"You would have to file an international warranty claim, and i have never heard of a claim not being honored."
Granted he's just a front line rep, but that is promising information.
I guess really this is all a moot point, since regardless of how hard i try i will have the phone rooted within 3 months. I really do want to resist voiding the warranty early on this phone... but i don't see myself holding out for very long.
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Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
That said, I'm not sure on the status now that it's being sold in the U.S. via the Play store. I am sure they will have you verify purchase from the Play store or something similar for warranty service.
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No one ever said anything about a grey market item. With all due respect, buying a product internationally and bringing it here does not constitute 'grey market' as you put it. If it does, I would like to know a source for your information.
Secondly, I've purchased a Samsung TV in the states before, and had to get it warrantied here in Canada. They knew the set was bought in the U.S., but still warrantied it here.
So by your thinking, they warrantied a grey market item. Hmm...
And as the previous poster said, they must have filed an international claim... either way, I got my set fixed.
My international was bought on eBay, warranty is void.
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My international was bought on eBay, warranty is void.
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As far as I'm aware, as long as you bought it from an Authorized Samsung Dealer, its warrantiable anywhere.
eBay sellers I guess can't be verified.
EDIT: We can even go as far as saying they would warranty anything without proof of purchase, provided that the manufactured date falls within the 1 year. I know they were doing that with a bunch of original Galaxy S's way back when they had issues. At least the service centre in Montreal was from my recollection.
propain4444 said:
On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?
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i am in the same boat i have like 300 in gift cards i dont know what to do!!!
greeced said:
No one ever said anything about a grey market item. With all due respect, buying a product internationally and bringing it here does not constitute 'grey market' as you put it. If it does, I would like to know a source for your information.
Secondly, I've purchased a Samsung TV in the states before, and had to get it warrantied here in Canada. They knew the set was bought in the U.S., but still warrantied it here.
So by your thinking, they warrantied a grey market item. Hmm...
And as the previous poster said, they must have filed an international claim... either way, I got my set fixed.
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Do you know what grey market means? Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
The GSM GNex (before selling in the Play store) was never officially for sale in the U.S. and stores imported it from other regions and sold it here in the U.S. That is the definition of grey market.
TVs may be different for Samsung, so who knows. Go ahead and do a search of the many, many, many threads asking and noting that there was no warranty from Samsung regarding the GNex bought from overseas in the U.S.
And I wouldn't trust any sort of first line customer service rep about international warranty. If that was the case that information would be *everywhere*.
tvdang7 said:
i am in the same boat i have like 300 in gift cards i dont know what to do!!!
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I ended up buying from Amazon... It's actually cheaper than getting from the play store even if you don't have gift cards because of the lack of tax and free shipping.
aldo37 said:
Do you know what grey market means? Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
The GSM GNex (before selling in the Play store) was never officially for sale in the U.S. and stores imported it from other regions and sold it here in the U.S. That is the definition of grey market.
TVs may be different for Samsung, so who knows. Go ahead and do a search of the many, many, many threads asking and noting that there was no warranty from Samsung regarding the GNex bought from overseas in the U.S.
And I wouldn't trust any sort of first line customer service rep about international warranty. If that was the case that information would be *everywhere*.
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Somehow I knew Wiki was going to show up in your reply.
Fact is, prior to them selling the GSM version here, then yes you can classify it as such... Now that they sell it here, it's no longer grey market. So you can service your model here no problem.
And as for TVs it would be the exact same thing... Model I bought was purchased in the U.S., but also sold in Canada... so there is many logistics as to why they would service it no problem as opposed to buying a model that wasn't sold here (parts, know how, etc)...
That doesn't apply anymore, because the 9250 is truly international now. So again, its no longer grey market, no matter how long ago you bought it.
So I "Read Up" as you put it... but your definition doesn't hold water if you "Read between the lines".
Last edit: And for your information and to be clear - grey market refers to product being sold outside of a manufacturers authorized distribution demographic. Nothing more, nothing less. For example.. anyone remember DirecTV way back? How Canadians were importing them and using them here? Thats grey market because DirecTV never had any intention of distributing them here.
Those demographics have changed for Samsung, and if you're not going to trust a customer service rep who's telling you the same thing, then I guess we should all just believe you.
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[Q] Will US Bought 7105 work in UK?

I'm going to be in the US early Jan, and was looking at buying the GT-7105 LTE Note 2 from there, SIM Free.
But, I need to know for sure that if I do that, then it'll work with a 4G SIM from EE in the UK. EE currently is offering SIM only 12 month deals.
If someone can confirm this, then it'll be a great help.
If it's actually an N7105, and not a US carrier-branded model, it'll be fine, but I can't imagine you could get one cheaper than in the UK - the N7105 isn't sold at US retail (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint & friends all have their own variants that would not suit your needs, and in the case of the latter two, would not work at all).
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If it's actually an N7105, and not a US carrier-branded model, it'll be fine, but I can't imagine you could get one cheaper than in the UK - the N7105 isn't sold at US retail (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint & friends all have their own variants that would not suit your needs, and in the case of the latter two, would not work at all).
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Hmm, that's what I was worrying about.
In the past, I've generally managed to get electronic items much cheaper in the US, and I keep travelling there.
But, I guess in this case, there's too much grey, and I might end up with a costly device that may not work in the UK ..
I want to get my hands on the Note II LTE (7105) but it's priced ridiculous here in the UK, and so are the EE plans ..
So, I was thinking of buying the phone SIM free, and then taking the 12 month SIM only from EE
the N7105 was on a special discount with EE this weekend, so no doubt it will be again.
The Note2 has fallen surprisingly quickly from its introductory price. I think the Note1 was an unexpected success so Samsung didn't make large numbers of them so supply wasn't so strong, but they had more confidence in the Note2 being popular and there's more stock and more competition in the marketplace.
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the N7105 was on a special discount with EE this weekend, so no doubt it will be again.
The Note2 has fallen surprisingly quickly from its introductory price. I think the Note1 was an unexpected success so Samsung didn't make large numbers of them so supply wasn't so strong, but they had more confidence in the Note2 being popular and there's more stock and more competition in the marketplace.
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Damn, missed that offer. What was the discounted offer from EE?
The 7105 was (evidently) sold at 20% discount for a couple of days before xmas along with all payg phones at EE stores at £409 originally £509 BUT... its sketchy info & the majority of stores said they didn't have it on offer.
The 7105 has the UK LTE bands & although is not a USA phone theres no probs buying it in USA for UK use, also its available online at £445 +post from Negrielectronics (a company based in USA) & they post to UK.
There's also currently a ebay seller in USA selling 7105 & posts to UK.
Not sure if the saving is worth the risk of not getting service of a "grey" import though if it developed a fault.
I found the link for nergri ...
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung...-16gb-unlocked-marble-white.html#.UOKxPP4YZaF
I bought the N7105 from ee on pay then gave the sim to a friend and unlocked the phone to use with three so no reason you couldn't buy on payg and give sim away and get sim only contract.
I've found three speeds are pretty similar to ee in 4G areas so prefer the better bundles of data they offer.
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Anyone know where to buy the Mate 20x in the US?

Anyone know? Or maybe some legit seller (besides eBay) that would ship here to USA. Also on a side note, does anyone know if LTE would work on the TMobile network?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
haruyukisama said:
Anyone know? Or maybe some legit seller (besides eBay) that would ship here to USA. Also on a side note, does anyone know if LTE would work on the TMobile network?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally. Ebay is the worst possibility right now - resellers there are taking a great advantage of a limited buying opportunity for this phone.
Check about import duties with your customs before buying. The USA imposes import taxes on China merchandise lately and I don't know if the technical stuff is involved.
Or better, if you're not in hurry, wait a couple of weeks. The price might drop and you may have a chance to buy the phone from Amazon or at least from a reseller in Europe.
As regard T-Mobile, yes, the phone will work with this operator. On HDSPA bands and on LTE bands 2, 4 and 12. It won't work on new bands 66 and 71 but it is the same with other phones except for some iPhone, Samsung, LG, and Motorola models. But then, I think that LTE 12 is mostly in use everywhere. You won't have special services like VoLTE, VoWiFi though. The operator requests certification fee for those services and it can't be expected that Chinese pay it. The phone is not intended for the USA market and besides Huawei is kinda blacklisted there.
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There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally.
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I can't find the list of sellers on this forum. Has it been removed?
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I can't find the list of sellers on this forum. Has it been removed?
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It has been quite some time since this inquiry, my friend. The situation has changed a lot since then, the USA and China are in the trade war and hence Chinese removed plenty of Huawei facilities from the USA and therefore you can't find any Mate X support there anymore. You can still buy the Mate X in the USA from various vendors from around the world but without any warranty.
My personal recommendation is to buy it from Amazon, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-EVR-L...116&s=gateway&sprefix=mate+20x,aps,228&sr=8-4.
The dilemma is though what to buy: the Chinese model or the international model (link). Although the international model has problems with occasional random reboots right now on 9.1, the problem will be sorted out eventually and you have fully Google support integrated even with Android Q (EMUI10), which is about to come. The Chinese model has no flaws and upgrades are regularly but then it is heavy bloated and Chinese oriented without native Google apps. There is workaround though with root and transformation rom but as it looks support ends with 9.1 beta.
Both models support Tmobile LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12.
Why Amazon: It's a US vendor, and there are not many others there right now. As you don't get Huawei warranty in the USA you still have Amazon's guaranty for the enough time to check phone functionality and there are not many chances that you find hidden malfunction later.
Thanks so much. The Chinese version is so much cheaper, I'm looking to get that to use on T-mobile.
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The Chinese model has no flaws and upgrades are regularly but then it is heavy bloated and Chinese oriented without native Google apps. There is workaround though with root and transformation rom but as it looks support ends with 9.1 beta.
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You are wrong, the EVR-AL00 has all the support beyond 9.1 beta and receives official updates before the global version of the phone. The current problem is that with non beta release of 9.1 came the new EROFS file system (see here) that prevents any updates to custom roms, which has lead to many devs leaving this amazing phone and that at the moment you can't get codes to unlock bootloader in order to gain root.
That's what I said. The Chinese model is updated more regulary and works flawlessly as 9.1. But after beta 9.1 there is no internationalization any more and original system is heavy Chinese oriented.
Anyway, if someone is looking for Chinese Mate x I think that Aliexppress has good prices right now.
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My personal recommendation is to buy it from Amazon, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-EVR-L...16&s=gateway&sprefix=mate+20x,aps,228&sr=8-4.
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I bought my l29 20x from clove significantly cheaper than that price. I paid 499 pounds (overseas excludes vat) and it's even cheaper now at 439 pounds:
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/huawei-mate-20-x?variant=20736965509179
piskr said:
There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally. Ebay is the worst possibility right now - resellers there are taking a great advantage of a limited buying opportunity for this phone.
Check about import duties with your customs before buying. The USA imposes import taxes on China merchandise lately and I don't know if the technical stuff is involved.
Or better, if you're not in hurry, wait a couple of weeks. The price might drop and you may have a chance to buy the phone from Amazon or at least from a reseller in Europe.
As regard T-Mobile, yes, the phone will work with this operator. On HDSPA bands and on LTE bands 2, 4 and 12. It won't work on new bands 66 and 71 but it is the same with other phones except for some iPhone, Samsung, LG, and Motorola models. But then, I think that LTE 12 is mostly in use everywhere. You won't have special services like VoLTE, VoWiFi though. The operator requests certification fee for those services and it can't be expected that Chinese pay it. The phone is not intended for the USA market and besides Huawei is kinda blacklisted there.
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You see I'm researching the 20X and some say that it does have volte functionality when being used on Tmobile USA and some like yourself say it doesn't.
However i'm aware the Mate 20 and Mate 20 pro doesn't have volte functionality on the tmobile network. But does the 20X?
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I love my EVRL29 version...this is by far the best phone I have used hands down.
I purchased mine from Amazon.com and have the protection of Amazon. I purchased the AL00 first as I had the EVRL29 previously (6 months ago but sold it to get the P30Pro) but I ended up missing my Mate 20X so much I had to sell my P30Pro and get back to my Mate 20X. The AL00 was easy to remove the bloat etc but I couldn’t get all Google to work including some of the Google back ups. I couldn’t get Google Pay to work but actually activating the Google apps was very easy. I had to return the AL00 though as I just didn’t want a fantastic phone that only half worked...maybe not half but you get the picture. I reordered from the Amazon.com dealer and the phone was shipped the following day Thursday and I had it in my hands Friday afternoon. The pick up time was Thurs at 3pm and delivered the next day by noon, from Hong Kong to Victoria, B.C literally overnight. Anyways I also have received 4 updates since I got the phone and I would 100% get the EVRL29 model as everything works including Google Pay, back ups, everything...I love this phone!

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