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Ordered a ZL and have a few questions

I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.

rajeshr said:
I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
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Yes, as long as it is formatted as FAT.
rajeshr said:
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
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Image quality is a hit and miss. You may get a good picture, take the exact same shot the next second, and the quality may not turn out as good. I suspect the camera software is at fault.
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- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
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Light usage (~1 hour of screen on-time): Yes
Moderate usage (~3 hours of screen on-time): Depends on application. Gaming/Video streaming or running at 70%+ brightness constantly? Probably not.
Heavy usage (5+ hours of screen on-time): No.

rajeshr said:
I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.
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1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
2. Can't comment, never use camera on a phone. Its pointless IMO unless you have something like the Nokia 808
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling, about an hour of GPS Sports tracking and music. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.

anirudh412 said:
1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.
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I fully agree with what's said above. About the ZL camera here are my thoughts (post #13&16). For battery life see here (post #3&5).

Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Yes, 32 kB cluster. I would try to let the phone do it if it is able to detect the card inserted.

Canceled my order from shopblt and bought it direct from Rogers. At least I get 14 days to try it out - if I don't like it, I can return it. Just charging it right now, so I don't have too many initial thoughts. So far the size seems fine and I do like the textured back. The 64GB card also seems to work, so that is good.
Thanks to all for the help provided. I'll definitely check out the camera settings and see what happens in my case.

More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.

rajeshr said:
More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.
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I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.

Villain of Brandon said:
I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.
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Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.

No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
Sendt fra min ZL 6506

rajeshr said:
Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.
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I agree.
Q.Entity said:
No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
Sendt fra min ZL 6506
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Even though I dont have 'problems' reading text off angle (which BTW, I rarely find myself doing), the washout is undeniable. Makes it seem that the phone has a cheap knockoff panel. When your main point of advertizing is the amazing screen to body ratio, one would think a top quality panel would be the priority.

Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!

rajeshr said:
Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!
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Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?

anirudh412 said:
Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?
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I really like the Z10 - the size is perfect (I personally think 4.2" is the perfect size), the Hub is an awesome idea, call quality is amazing and the battery life is only second to the RAZR HD. A couple of things let it down - only eight running apps are allowed; no 3rd party apps can hook into the hub. It is also let down by the lack of apps - most people are aware of this prior to buying the phone, but it's even worse once you use the phone for a little time. Most apps are ports of Android and the UI paradigm is really different. If more developers migrated to BB, it might help improve the viability of BB.

Several problems with s4

Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!

How much cheaper are we talking about here? You can always buy warranty as well just for protection. As for the heating issue, I do find it to be more frequent that my previous Note 2 or S3. I noticed this especially when I'm using the camera, YouTube, browser. Haven't even played any games on it yet.
As for the camera, you might try to go into settings. Perhaps its trying to auto-focus too much - I also have this issue sometimes with the camera when it wouldn't focus, but just adjust the settings maybe.

imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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Id do exactly that if u think it's bad send it back, your under warranty
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Only major issue Ive had is a galaxy family wide issue since s2 (loose charge port) only had it 2.5 days
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imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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These issues are common amongst many users. I personally would not recommend this phone to a friend without telling then about these issues. Its a shame that Samsung has the latest and greatest and then ruin it with these small but important problems.
I'm extremely happy with my phone ONLY because I am rooted and will have access to amazing ROMs that will cure these problems. Software aside, the actually device is amazing and i wouldn't want any other.
The camera could be blurry due to the packaging sticker that most people don't notice and don't remove that's on the camera. Although the sticker has a round cut out and shouldn't affect the picture at all unless its misaligned. Some say its there for protection others say to remove it. Do as u wish.
On the topic of heat, if your charging and heavily using your phone, it DOES get unreasonably hot. Uncomfortable but still not a defect. I'm sure the device is more than capable of handling these temperatures. But it is uncomfortable to hold...this is also very subjective. Hot to me may not be hot to you and vise versa. But I think that it is much hotter than older phones so I understand why people can be alarmed by the difference.
Charging batteries is a wonky topic. Batteries all behave slightly differently. They are temperamental and take time to perform their best. Fully draining and then fully charging ur battery is good practice to ensure good and long lasting performance. But I'd say its too early to call your issue a problem that requires a replacement. If it were, let's say, 75% I'd do something about it. 95? Ehhh not an issue. I suggest getting a larger aftermarket battery anyway if you want acceptable battery life. (12hours)
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sgs22012 said:
Only major issue Ive had is a galaxy family wide issue since s2 (loose charge port) only had it 2.5 days
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Seriously? I came to the S4 from the Fascinate (S1), and my USB port is just as firm as it ever was on the Fascinate. (Of course, haven't had the S4 enough to tell..)

Thanks guys for your reply,
Really appreciate it
Like you guys said the problems are normal
Sent from the undoubtedly best phone on earth, the Samsung Note II

imrhay said:
Thanks guys for your reply,
Really appreciate it
Like you guys said the problems are normal
Sent from the undoubtedly best phone on earth, the Samsung Note II
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Uh... those problems are not normal. Those sound like serious issues and do not seem consistent with a typical S4 experience, at least not mine or the two other people I know that have one. I would even consider that your friend purchased an imitation s4, which are known to exist.

If ever in doubt, return the phone to where she got it from.
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Dr. Fed said:
Uh... those problems are not normal. Those sound like serious issues and do not seem consistent with a typical S4 experience, at least not mine or the two other people I know that have one. I would even consider that your friend purchased an imitation s4, which are known to exist.
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I, likewise, have NONE of those issues. At all. I do have occasional stuttering lag, but that's it. If I were having those issues I would send it back.

imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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Though it is possible that there are hardware issues with the device itself, here are some common things to check:
1) Heating is normal when running graphic intensive apps like games. If the phone is heating up while idle, it is a problem.
2) Make sure there is no plastic covering on the front camera. The picture may appear gritty on the screen but transfer it to a computer and check the resolution.
3) I am almost certain it is taking forever to charge because she may be using an old charger or an old usb cable. The S4 comes with a different charger output (0.5V and 2 A) & will charge the phone quickly. The older chargers are (0.5V & 1A), which will charge the S4 but take forever.
Check these things first. If any of these are off, replace the phone asap!

[Q] why was this device discontinued?

hi all,
somewhere it was mentioned that this device was actually ignored and not discontinued by sony due to the issues related to the hardware or something. I just recently purchased this and im actually worried bout this. was my decision to buy this particular handset a wrong one?

no its not like that..its's still available here in my region....

Not really.. it has the same hardware as xperia Z.
Except for infrared blaster.. which, yes had a hardware issue (which can be exchanged if you bring it back).
If i was discontinued in your country, it's because Sony put all marketing towards Xperia Z, not ZL... which I understand because it had something the competitors didn't have: waterproof.
I still hope they will make a ZL2 though, waterproof .

Its discontinued because its old and past its life cycle. Same with the Z. Just because carriers have the phones, doesn't mean Sony is still making them. But If you by one brand new, even if its a year old, you will still get full factory warranty, so don't worry. But most android flagship devices have roughly a 3 - 5 month production life. Then its on to designing the next one while the older models slowly sell out. Only a handful sell enough units to keep production going, like Samsung galaxy "S" flagships, and possibly even the HTC one. Although with the financial state of HTC, I don't think the one was enough to pull them out if the fire.
But I wouldn't worry about your purchase. This type of tech gets "old" within 3 months of release. I mean the zl came out with the snapdragon s4 pro, then a month the later we had the HTC one and S4, with the snapdragon 600. Then we got the Z ultra with the snapdragon 800. Now that thing is old news. Lol. Technology drives me nuts!
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It's all about marketing as wrote ATRIXXIRTA, Sony makes money selling new devices...in certain way forcing people to buy new models.
Anyway I am happy with this device.
They put a 5 inch full HD display on a compact chasis, with infrared controller (works fine for me), great hardware inside, support for external memory and with FM Radio
Remember iphone arguments about size? It cannot be bigger because of one hand use? Or samsung explaining why they removed fm radio from galaxy S4?
They said too that external memory cards are becoming obsolete because of cloud storage? Come on, just marketing dudes

Its true. The ZL is one of the BEST all arounder's out there. If the Z or Z1/2 was the same size as the ZL, it would be the design to beat. Or the moto x if it had an SD card slot, lol
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There are aspects of the screen on the ZL that could be better...
Overall it's a really nice phone and I'm fairly happy with battery life, and performance.

Bad experience
I had just bought the phone in the beginning of feb and had a good time, enjoyed my phone. Unfortunately, the battery started giving a problem on 10 of this month, phone only starts through charger, once charger is plugged out, the phone switches off. Gave it to the customer care at Mumbai, India & they said my phone would be replaced. After 10days they got me phone that was used and scratched, it also had glue at back of the cover.
Just having a bad experience as my phone was brand new & now they are giving me a **** of my money. Bad customer service from Sony.

That's total bull**** man. Make a video and post on YouTube and spread it as much as possible. Might not seem like much, but if it gains enough momentum, Sony will take notice. Mine Is also starting to give me issues. It will shut off randomly if it gets warm, and it will only boot plugged it. Today for example, I was using navigation for about half an hour, and it just shut off randomly. And I couldn't power it on until I plugged in the car charger. I can.unplug and use it however if it cools enough. It's fu#ked and I'm passed! I'm thinking of ordering a replacement battery. 22-25$. I'd rather have it.BEFORE this one craps out, and not wait until it actually goes, then wait 2 weeks for a battery!
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kekks said:
I had just bought the phone in the beginning of feb and had a good time, enjoyed my phone. Unfortunately, the battery started giving a problem on 10 of this month, phone only starts through charger, once charger is plugged out, the phone switches off. Gave it to the customer care at Mumbai, India & they said my phone would be replaced. After 10days they got me phone that was used and scratched, it also had glue at back of the cover.
Just having a bad experience as my phone was brand new & now they are giving me a **** of my money. Bad customer service from Sony.
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Its not easy to replace the battery, did you check the video created by one of the xda guy, the battery is below the mb. Watch the video before ordering the battery.
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kekks said:
Its not easy to replace the battery, did you check the video created by one of the xda guy, the battery is below the mb. Watch the video before ordering the battery.
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Ya I've taken apart NUMEROUS phones and tablets. The ZL should be a piece of cake compared to some other devices like iPhones, or even the htc one x. That thing was a *****! Lol
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Hey Guys I'm from India I'm going to buy the Xperia ZL Second hand the seller said that it's only 4 months old please help me Should I buy it or not?

MilitiaDrop said:
Hey Guys I'm from India I'm going to buy the Xperia ZL Second hand the seller said that it's only 4 months old please help me Should I buy it or not?
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.. you should first check if the phone boots correctly and if the battery is ok. A lot of ZL's have problems with the battery. If everything is ok, the phone is just great!
ATRIXXIRTA said:
Ya I've taken apart NUMEROUS phones and tablets. The ZL should be a piece of cake compared to some other devices like iPhones, or even the htc one x. That thing was a *****! Lol
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I can confirm that. It is actually really easy to replace the battery on that phone. You just need a small phillips screwdriver and a plastic tool to open the device :good:
This video speaks for itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_rClLNUU8

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.. you should first check if the phone boots correctly and if the battery is ok. A lot of ZL's have problems with the battery. If everything is ok, the phone is just great! ]
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How can i check the battery issue with this phone and how old it is?

the same problem
kekks said:
I had just bought the phone in the beginning of feb and had a good time, enjoyed my phone. Unfortunately, the battery started giving a problem on 10 of this month, phone only starts through charger, once charger is plugged out, the phone switches off. Gave it to the customer care at Mumbai, India & they said my phone would be replaced. After 10days they got me phone that was used and scratched, it also had glue at back of the cover.
Just having a bad experience as my phone was brand new & now they are giving me a **** of my money. Bad customer service from Sony.
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Hi, I have the same problem, the phone just starts via charger, once charger is unplugged, the phone switches off if an application is running
I have to buy a new battery, surely it take to get to Colombia approximately in 20 days:crying:

If you recieved your Oppo Find 7 - share first impressions here

Hi
For the receivers of the very fist batch that should be arriving to your door step please share your first impressions / photos / videos
I pre ordered the second batch, to be dispatched around may 16th.
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I've got the phone since Friday now (3rd day) and it's a great phone.
+ Recharge, overall quality, screen, feel in the hand, amazing speakers.
- Fast drain on batery, yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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Phone quality is great
Speakers are loud and crisp
Fast charge is an added bonus.
Camera shutter is instant.
No yellow tint
Buggy OS:
-Sometimes ColorOS reverts my changed settings.
-Phone mutes all notification sounds after a restart.
Dead pixel on far right, the dead pixel is so darn small it's not even noticeable unless you thoroughly search for a dead pixel.

have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?

marianoitalianoo said:
have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?
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Yes, i'm running 2.0 from the start.

clarckent said:
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yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?

marianoitalianoo said:
have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?
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No i have not. It's not much, but it is there...

I got mine on Friday ( 2nd). So far I really like the phone. Same as others have said....
Pros:
Fast charging times
speakers sound quality are really quite good ( this was a bonus for me)
very responsive
lots of theme options
feels like a large Nexus 5 to me.
Cons:
Color OS takes some getting used to
viewing angles are a little washed out ( not as good as my M8 or note 3)
idle time on battery needs some tweaking
Overall I am glad I purchased the 7a.

The os is pretty much in an early alpha state and requires a few more updates to actually be fully usable.
Some features suck battery like it's cotton candy, but the superb sound and awesome screen make up for it.
If you wish to make it through a day on one charge then turn everything you don't need off and change the lock screen because the normal lock screen is glitched and drains your battery on standby.
Overall it's a great device with a not so great operating system.
But people like entropy are already working on the first custom ROMs so that should be handled soon.
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Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.

Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)

jacquad said:
Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)
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Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.

boogie2001 said:
Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.
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Screen seems to react a little quicker to touch. 2.0 seems a crisper and smoother rom. I really love the blurr effect. Voice wakeup und Live Weather 2.0 are also pretty nice.

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Chevyguy85 said:
Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.
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LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!

rswheaton said:
LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!
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I had an 4g phone, but not a LTE phone. I gotta borrow a friend's phone one day and do that, eventually.

Solid build but buttons are little bit hard to press IMO.
Great screen. Very bright though. Camera is good.
Color OS features are nice but there is one bug with cellular network battery usage. I think it doesn't go into deep sleep because of it and drains battery on standby mode especially if you have screen off gesture on. If you turn this feature off, it's a lot better. I do not have yellow tint problem.
I wish we can swap back plates like One Plus. I like to use my phone without cover and the back plate is white.
The touch is very responsive. I have to change Touch & hold delay to medium to prevent accidental click while scrolling. Then again, I'm using a screen protector which comes with the phone and it might be the screen protector problem.
The speaker is loud. Really really loud. I am HTC M7 user and I think Find 7 speaker is better than M7.

best phone I ever had.
hardware: Impressive built quality, awsome gorilla glass with almost perfect touch (but I had to remove that **** of screen protector that killed touch sensitive), conversation quality is like havin ur friend talkin beside you and it get signal where other phones die.
software: I m using colorOS 1.2i, it has lacks of some feature, but it sports everything you really need and it does it fast and easy to use. It's like a stock android with kool features. Never had bug like force closing of apps....for me it's much better to use than a touchwiz and I feel like I m using a reactive nexus or a cooked rom.
camera: should I spend words? no...it's the best, there's no competion. it doesnt have any gimmick feature like htc zoe..but it's so easy and fast to find the settings u need, just shoot! and pics are nearly professional.
loudspeaker: it's in gods arena, beside z2 and htc one. if htc m8 is the king in this way, find7a is a prince, and u ll be happy of having.
Battery drain: kernel and governor need to be fixed. I had a good 6% of drain when using it with lte and screen on, but I also had 5.5% in stand by mode. so....here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
-removed stock google news and wheater widget, it doesnt allow sleep mode and it drain 1.5% of battery per hour
-removed yahoo wheater app (removing just widget is unuseful)...saved other 1.5%
-WIFI advanced settings : everythin off but optimization wifi...saved another 1.5%
- I use pattern unlock mode, from ever, someone reported that using stock colorOS mode drains battery
I noticed that when switching off WIFI , 3g/4g connection is already on...never happened with other phones, they all took some seconds for 3g to be working, maybe this means connection drain battery as it never goes really off even when is under wifi? dunno..
something I didnt like , but doesnt matter:
-power button sucks, it s less than half millimeter, so it's very hard to push it. but I dont really care, I use double tap to lock and unlock it!
-back cover. it's good and has grip, nice color and wotever...but it's very very slim and flexible. due it's so slim, antenna works like a blackberry but I m afraid it will destroy itself easily, bcs it's already starting to be flexible at my touch.
-screen: awsome , color are very good, but a more calibrated temperature can improve it. it's not blueish like some reviewr says...but a better temperature could improve its gamma as well, that s very high (I used to calibrate televisions some years ago so I have a special look on screens). at a first look , find7a screen is like an LG g2 screen with a wrong calibration (but more realistic colors ).
-It arrived with a dead pixel , but it s impossible to notice it due it's a full-hd screen, so I really dont give a shot about it.
-yellow screen, there's a yellow ghost at the base of the screen for 2 millimeters...but believe me guyz, I v seen ppl going crazy on forums for this, It's something u can notice only on a completely white screen and if nobody tells u, your not going to see it! but if u love perfection, I can say that it went away after some days of usage...I m sure it's glue and it takes some days of warm screen to be fixed.
-optional case: tnx oppo to send me such a gift in real leather, but I trash it after 1h. software doesnt support this case, having it in my pocket means it opens itself and screen goes on, but when u close it , the screen stays on anyway. I have to open it to pick up a call! wtf! why does it have such a window if I have to open it???
-warranty: oppo policy in europe is to send the phone I dont know where in europe, they will send I dont where in china, someone I dunno will decide if I have to pay to repair the phone. anyway I will pay to ship it. Ok, I accept to save 300€ on s5, m8, z2...and get 1+ if I destroy my find7...
just my opnion, everyone has his needs, wot is good for me can be bad for u...

alexleon said:
best phone I ever had.
here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
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So what is standby time after your fixes? People complained that the phone drains 50% of battery over night. So if the phone can't keep charge for 2-3 days it is useless for me. I do not use phone lot, so always forget to charge, so I need 2-3 days at least and I am getting 5 days with my current Nexus One.

So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?

Chevyguy85 said:
So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?
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It seems like a lot of people are having problems with the SD cards purchased from Oppo. I wonder if they got a bad batch.

[Q] Sony giving me new Xperia Z for my Xperia ZL

Hey there, I've been using Xperia ZL for around 6 months now and it suddenly started losing network, randomly it will reboot. And one fine day it didn't turn on..I just get SONY logo for 3 seconds then restart.
I gave my phone under warranty in Sony Service Center..its been a week and they called me yesterday tell me that your phone has some internal motherboard problem, but current we don't have stock of that..so we can provide you with a new Xperia Z if thats fine with you.
I said its fine but will it be a brand new piece? They said that it will be brand new but you wont get it like fully packed with box and all.
Also they asked me which color I want..
will get the phone in 1-2 days..
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.

vistax86 said:
Hey there, I've been using Xperia ZL for around 6 months now and it suddenly started losing network, randomly it will reboot. And one fine day it didn't turn on..I just get SONY logo for 3 seconds then restart.
I gave my phone under warranty in Sony Service Center..its been a week and they called me yesterday tell me that your phone has some internal motherboard problem, but current we don't have stock of that..so we can provide you with a new Xperia Z if thats fine with you.
I said its fine but will it be a brand new piece? They said that it will be brand new but you wont get it like fully packed with box and all.
Also they asked me which color I want..
will get the phone in 1-2 days..
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.
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if it's new, why wouldn't they give the phone packed in box

vistax86 said:
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.
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What? Xperia Z is not higher model.
Both were same price over here (roughly) and have the same specs.
Unless you want the waterproof feature, ZL is the better phone in my opinion.
Way smaller bezels, way shorter, infrared, +50mah battery, camera button (!)

vistax86 said:
Hey there, I've been using Xperia ZL for around 6 months now and it suddenly started losing network, randomly it will reboot. And one fine day it didn't turn on..I just get SONY logo for 3 seconds then restart.
I gave my phone under warranty in Sony Service Center..its been a week and they called me yesterday tell me that your phone has some internal motherboard problem, but current we don't have stock of that..so we can provide you with a new Xperia Z if thats fine with you.
I said its fine but will it be a brand new piece? They said that it will be brand new but you wont get it like fully packed with box and all.
Also they asked me which color I want..
will get the phone in 1-2 days..
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.
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The Xperia ZL is almost 100€ more expensive than the Xperia Z in new condition nowadays, so they aren't really giving you a 'higher model', they are kind of tricking you out of your money!
I can only speak for german prices but here are the amazon links:
http://www.amazon.de/Sony-Smartphon...UTF8&qid=1403897688&sr=8-3&keywords=xperia+zl
http://www.amazon.de/Sony-Smartphon...=UTF8&qid=1403897712&sr=8-1&keywords=xperia+z

No its certainly not, the links you sent have Xperia ZL with 4G/LTE and Xperia Z is without that. So obviously Xperia Z will be cheaper in that case.
I saw prices in my country and Xperia Z is priced more.

Same here in my country. Z costs more than zl.

Xperia Z
Finally got my hands on new Xperia Z, bdw its totally brand new with those transparent thin stickers, they gave me its box too but with all accessories removed, got two screen protectors one for back and one for screen.
Its so premium than ZL
And i compared the screen with another ZL, it is so much different, blacks are really black, zl has little grayish black both phones at full brightness, and i noticed camera is much better with a higher contrast.
doesnt have IR blaster but thats fine..
All hail Sony..love u.
Moving to Xperia Z sections now..

vistax86 said:
Finally got my hands on new Xperia Z, bdw its totally brand new with those transparent thin stickers, they gave me its box too but with all accessories removed, got two screen protectors one for back and one for screen.
Its so premium than ZL
And i compared the screen with another ZL, it is so much different, blacks are really black, zl has little grayish black both phones at full brightness, and i noticed camera is much better with a higher contrast.
doesnt have IR blaster but thats fine..
All hail Sony..love u.
Moving to Xperia Z sections now..
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WOW! The very same thing happened with me. The only difference being my ZL was an year old, almost out of warranty(i.e had a couple of weeks to go when I dropped it at the service center). The phone just wouldn't power on. They "replaced" my ZL with a Z saying that they've got no stock(ZL) and won't be able to repair it.
However, the Z what I got was a refurbished one and had it's rubber finish peeled off in many places and the camera lens was scratched as well. They just didn't agree to replace my ZL with a new Z(was in excellent condition except for the power button which had faded off). The Z didn't even come with a screen protector. My ZL had a screen protector and the only real scratches were over the screen protector.
They apparently tried fooling me by offering this as an "UPGRADE". But back then, the reason I purchased the ZL due to it's smaller frame size..
Bloody cheats. Eventually I managed to sell it and got a good deal for another handset..

I'm having the same issues but my ZL is out of warranty.So it's definitely a hardware issue?

vistax86 said:
Hey there, I've been using Xperia ZL for around 6 months now and it suddenly started losing network, randomly it will reboot. And one fine day it didn't turn on..I just get SONY logo for 3 seconds then restart.
I gave my phone under warranty in Sony Service Center..its been a week and they called me yesterday tell me that your phone has some internal motherboard problem, but current we don't have stock of that..so we can provide you with a new Xperia Z if thats fine with you.
I said its fine but will it be a brand new piece? They said that it will be brand new but you wont get it like fully packed with box and all.
Also they asked me which color I want..
will get the phone in 1-2 days..
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.
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The best choice is to see the xperia z that they are ready to offer.Check for any external damages.All replacement that you get now from a service center will usually be a used mobile/spare mobile.Since xperia z is costlier and have water proof feature as an incentive you can go for it.Be warned xperia Z does not have IR blaster and camera button as in xperia zl.

vistax86 said:
Hey there, I've been using Xperia ZL for around 6 months now and it suddenly started losing network, randomly it will reboot. And one fine day it didn't turn on..I just get SONY logo for 3 seconds then restart.
I gave my phone under warranty in Sony Service Center..its been a week and they called me yesterday tell me that your phone has some internal motherboard problem, but current we don't have stock of that..so we can provide you with a new Xperia Z if thats fine with you.
I said its fine but will it be a brand new piece? They said that it will be brand new but you wont get it like fully packed with box and all.
Also they asked me which color I want..
will get the phone in 1-2 days..
is this some kind of trick? providing me a higher model of phone for free?
please suggest.
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It is quite normal I had a faulty z1 and they sent me a z2 as replacement.... If the stock is low due to low production, they give the one available to meet sla...it probably cost them almost the same... Probably higher to manufacture older models if the parts are not in stock