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Google Wallet?

Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'm going to miss being able to use my phone to pay for things, as I've grown somewhat accustomed to being able to do it. lol I love going to Dairy Queen, or Best Buy, or the drug store and just tapping my phone. I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.

mysterioustko said:
Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC

NFC is just a chip. You still need the software to use it. For example, I used Google Wallet on my Nexus S (which has a NFC chip). Without software to use the NFC chip with, it's useless. In other words, you have to have some sort of payment software on the phone in order to make use of the NFC as a form of payment.

Lightning N1 said:
Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
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NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.

While there has been no official announcement, I don't ever think the Verizon version will ever see Google Wallet. Verizon has teamed up with T-Mobile and AT&T to put together Isis, a competitor to Google Wallet. Thats why we only see Google Wallet or Sprint.

martonikaj said:
NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
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Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.

mysterioustko said:
Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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[hfm] said:
I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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Yeah you would think that "officially" you'd be able to do it. Heck all Google would have to do is just put the app in the market to be downloaded and they wouldn't have to deal with the carriers at all (I think lol). But hey, gotta love the guys here at XDA, that got us around all that and brought it to the tmobile nexus. I'm just hoping it can be done on the Galaxy Nexus too.

Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.

Niksko said:
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
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Perhaps there are legal issues with it. I have no idea. I just wish a standard would be established already so that we can use it in our day to day. I love using my phone to pay for things! lol

I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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fdm1 said:
Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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It's a US-only service, yes. It's just an app so nothing is stopping them from supporting it on the GSM/HSPA version.

I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.

Tom Servo said:
I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I meant it as in "the service is currently available in the US only". As far as I know Google has only officially launched the service in the US as of yet. That could just have been a marketing thing though. I'm not sure if it works fine if a seller outside the US just plugs in a comatible NFC-enabled terminal.

Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.

Tom Servo said:
Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Interesting. So it's nothing specific needed on the merchant's side other than an NFC-compatible paypass terminal? How does the service work software wise? They could very well have limits on the cards you can use it with.
You might want to check this out.

sitnlow4life said:
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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This is the same thing that I was thinking. This is supposed to be the flagship device...you'd think it would already have Wallet on it...or at least have it available.

Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.

lukegb said:
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
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Great work! Anyone willing to try this to see if it works? I'd try it but I don't have my Galaxy Nexus yet (thanks to Handtec....). Great to see progress being made so quickly.

[Q] NFC or not???

Greetings! I'm getting conflicting information if this is actually working or not on AT&T network. Anyone have this working?
A recent news article mentions that AT&T has approved NFC on one x, but chatting with a AT&T Store Manager mentions NFC is still disabled for all devices... Can anyone confirm or deny? Any work arounds?
Thanks in advance!

You want this forum. This is the international One X forum and the AT&T one isn't the same. The AT&T One X is actually the "One XL" but they annoyingly called it the One X as well. The baseband, CPU and GPU are different in the One XL.

i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.

brent8577 said:
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
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Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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krohnjw said:
The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue
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This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.

krohnjw said:
Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.

BarryH_GEG said:
This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
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NFC != Google Wallet. The fact remains ATT can't disable NFC on a device they have no control over. Google Wallet is an app the leverages NFC.
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brent8577 said:
thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
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Speak for yourself before you dish out insults. Your phone has NFC and it WORKS. Google Wallet doesn't work by NFC DOES.
AT&T can NOT stop you from using NFC as a whole but they can stop you from using an app like Google Wallet that requires NFC.
NFC has always worked on your phone, you just think that means you can use Google Wallet when it doesn't.
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Google Wallet - Tap and Pay

Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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Yes. Of course, it has NFC.

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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More than likely the tap-to-pay feature from Google Wallet will be locked like the Note 3. Everything else from the Google Wallet app will work just fine, except for the tap-to-pay feature. You can blame SoftCard (formally ISIS) for this. Well, really it's the 4 major US carriers, who are all in contract with Softcard, blocking this tap-to-pay feature. Why would they allow a competitor into the fold?

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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matrix2004 said:
Yes. Of course, it has NFC.
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Tap to pay has been blocked since the Note 2 unfortunately. They took away access to the secure element, and now the secure element has been moved to the sim, which of course is controlled by the carrier (read softcard)

Someone reported in another thread that Google Wallet works on their AT&T LG G3 - so here is hoping.

msherman123 said:
Someone reported in another thread that Google Wallet works on their AT&T LG G3 - so here is hoping.
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Works great on my G3. Hope it works great on my Note 4.

zoso28 said:
Tap to pay has been blocked since the Note 2 unfortunately. They took away access to the secure element, and now the secure element has been moved to the sim, which of course is controlled by the carrier (read softcard)
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This is not true anymore. Any device running kitkat will do tap n pay. They changed Wallet to remove carriers ability to block it. Many will bring up issues with the Note 3, but with the very last update, even it became compatible. The odds of tap n pay working on the Note 4 are about 99.9% in my opinion.

boufa said:
This is not true anymore. Any device running kitkat will do tap n pay. They changed Wallet to remove carriers ability to block it. Many will bring up issues with the Note 3, but with the very last update, even it became compatible. The odds of tap n pay working on the Note 4 are about 99.9% in my opinion.
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That's great news! I'm not into Nexus's so I just gave up on it after the Note 2 but I'd love to use it again on the 4.. Guess we'll know in a week

I have At&t note 4 and I have tap and pay.

Yep, it's now working on the Note 4! I can even switch back and forth between SoftCard (formally ISIS) and Google Wallet within Android's settings to set the default tap-to-pay service. Yes!

Google wallet?

Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.

Used it just fine at Walgreens yesterday.

razortaz18 said:
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yup used it at Panera bread the other day.

Great. Thanks guys. I can't wait to finally use it.

razortaz18 said:
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yes, bout a soda at a machine with it last weekend.

Works with the VERIZON note 4 (ie SM-N910V) ? I don't even see the option to use tap and pay.. And everything I have read leads me to believe that it doesn't work. Can you post a 'how to' set it up? Thanks...
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You need to have NFC turned on for tap & Pay to work...

Disregard, found the settings... And yes, my nfc was on

Not sd ure then. I have a note 4. Installed Wallet from Google plsy, everything works .

Now that it's working places are killing nfc cause of apple pay. Check out CurrentC it's major places trying to get there own inhouse payments using QR. CVS and rite aid have write up in news. GW started it working great then things get stalled because of carriers and GW. Carriers build their own softcard (isis) funny have to rename cause matches terrorist group. Now the stores want a piece to bypass credit card charges and allow them direct access to you back accounts. People are reviewing the CurrentC app in both apple and google stores as 1 star. News is saying for once apple and android people agree on something lol.
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Tried it at CVS yesterday...didn't work. CVS has turned it off.

Wallet working for me no problem at Duane Reede and BP gas station

Google Wallet Tap and Pay

Will Tap and Pay in Google Wallet work?

So long as the app uses wireless capability then it should work.

iDefalt said:
So long as the app uses wireless capability then it should work.
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Not sure what you mean by wireless capability. I'm asking about NFC-based, if that's what you mean by wireless. Google Wallet moved away from the Secure-Element approach popular on previous LG phones (I'm currently on the Optimus G) towards a HCE-software-based implementation . Base AOSP Lollipop doesn't implement HCE for the models of NFC chips (by NXP Semi.) contained in the OG and G3. I'm wondering if:
LG is using newer NXP NFC chips
the firmware/drivers (open source or not) for said chips supports HCE, so Tap and Pay will work with Google Wallet

natator99 said:
Not sure what you mean by wireless capability. I'm asking about NFC-based, if that's what you mean by wireless. Google Wallet moved away from the Secure-Element approach popular on previous LG phones (I'm currently on the Optimus G) towards a HCE-software-based implementation . Base AOSP Lollipop doesn't implement HCE for the models of NFC chips (by NXP Semi.) contained in the OG and G3. I'm wondering if:
LG is using newer NXP NFC chips
the firmware/drivers (open source or not) for said chips supports HCE, so Tap and Pay will work with Google Wallet
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Works fine on my G2 with stock Lollipop, so it won't be a stretch to say that it will work just fine with the G4. As far as AOSP is concerned.....we don't even know yet if the phone can even be rooted let alone have a custom recovery installed...so it will probably be months from now before that question can be answered.
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Google Wallet tap and pay works fine on my G3, even when I was using CM11 and CM12, so I see no reason why it wouldn't work on the G4.

No reason it shouldn't work provided the SIM card is compatible.
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The NFC isn't locked down like Sams__t.

Just to reiterate what mingkee said, Tap to Pay doesn't work on some Samsung devices. I just tried to pay with my Note 3 at a Panera and was stupidly taping my phone to watch it do nothing. I was completely unaware that the Note 3 isn't supported by Google Wallet Tap to Pay. So, I'm hoping that it'll be enabled in my next phone, an LG G4. Good to know that it works on the G2 and G3.

will wait till confirmed working.should is not enough for me. thanks for all the input however, made me aware of the uncertainty

MY G4 came preloaded with Wallet and I was able to select the "tap and pay" option after logging in. I haven't used it to purchase anything, but I can do so and let you know what happens.

I have a T-Mobile G4, and I have tested Tap and Pay is indeed working fine. No quirks at all.