How long does it take to charge z1c using usb on laptop? - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, it's taking a really long time to charge my z1 compact using the usb port on my laptop (macbook air 2010).
It's been an hour and i'm at 27%.
Is this normal?
Also, is quickcharge 2.0 enabled on our phones? Would it make usb charging from a laptop faster? (I think mine is just 0.5 A, whatever Apple gives you).

Not sure on laptops but on my PC I could charge it for 3 hours to 100%.... While on dock I could charge it like 50minutes and it's full. Quickcharge 2.0 works only on chargers with quickcharge 2.0 support. Hence it won't work on laptops. And it's alot more slower since laptops has lower current output on USB ports than usual outlet chargers.
lamenramen said:
Hi, it's taking a really long time to charge my z1 compact using the usb port on my laptop (macbook air 2010).
It's been an hour and i'm at 27%.
Is this normal?
Also, is quickcharge 2.0 enabled on our phones? Would it make usb charging from a laptop faster? (I think mine is just 0.5 A, whatever Apple gives you).
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Riyal said:
Not sure on laptops but on my PC I could charge it for 3 hours to 100%.... While on dock I could charge it like 50minutes and it's full. Quickcharge 2.0 works only on chargers with quickcharge 2.0 support. Hence it won't work on laptops. And it's alot more slower since laptops has lower current output on USB ports than usual outlet chargers.
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whhaatt????
i charge using the dock an it fully charged my Z1c at least 3 hours. how can u fully charged yours at 50 minutes only?

I guess it depends on what you plug the dock into. I haven't timed it but I'm pretty sure mine charges from about 40% to 100% in under an hour. I plug the dock into a usb power adapter.
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Returning to the op's question, if I connect the phone to my macbook pro and then close the lid, the phone stops charging immediately. It charges just fine if I leave the lid open. I only tried it once overnight so I don't know how long it took to fully charge.

casablanko said:
whhaatt????
i charge using the dock an it fully charged my Z1c at least 3 hours. how can u fully charged yours at 50 minutes only?
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I use the sony charger that's bundled in the box and connect the dock USB cable in there. That's just it... More or less 1 hour on average charge time at least...

Riyal said:
I use the sony charger that's bundled in the box and connect the dock USB cable in there. That's just it... More or less 1 hour on average charge time at least...
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Model?
Charger suplied with my z1c is EP880.
About 2hrs20minutes from 5% to full battery.
And i think that is good, charging full battery in 50minutes isnt good for battery health.

Same as yours also... EP880. It says here output is 5.0VDC and 1500mAh. I'm pretty sure the battery is ok as it's holding a 2-3 day lifespan before I can drain it to lower 10%. Although I'm no power user. I mostly use the phone for texting and web surfing... The most battery hog usage I can do is reflashing ROMs in recovery which could deduct 1 to 4% of battery after reboot. Our electricity standards here are 220v of current.
poolmaker said:
Model?
Charger suplied with my z1c is EP880.
About 2hrs20minutes from 5% to full battery.
And i think that is good, charging full battery in 50minutes isnt good for battery health.
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@poolmaker
Here's a pic of the charger... Man macro on lowlight rocks on z1 compact

Nice shot Riyal.
Same battery/charger/phone but 250% faster charging?
Thats a riddle for sure, laws of physics says that one of factors in equation must be different.
I suggest you to check yours battery in service centre.
2300mAh (healthy) battery can be charged with stronger charger in 50 minutes, ofcourse that isnt good for her longevity.
But with ours EP850 charger thats impossible, battery or electronics inside phone must be messed up.

Calculating with an output of 500mA from an USB 2.0 port, the charging time (0 -> 100%) will result in approximately 5hours. (Note that the battery is normally never at 0mAh)

poolmaker said:
Nice shot Riyal.
Same battery/charger/phone but 250% faster charging?
Thats a riddle for sure, laws of physics says that one of factors in equation must be different.
I suggest you to check yours battery in service centre.
2300mAh (healthy) battery can be charged with stronger charger in 50 minutes, ofcourse that isnt good for her longevity.
But with ours EP850 charger thats impossible, battery or electronics inside phone must be messed up.
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Nah no need... I'm pretty sure battery is ok as whenever I charge it on my PC it's charging slow also like any other phones. So I think this is just really qualcomm's quickcharge 2.0 kicking in... Anyways I observed the phone. It's not heating up or whatever probably it's just because of the battery quality. It must be having good chemical reaction when charging hence less waste on energy.

Riyal said:
So I think this is just really qualcomm's quickcharge 2.0 kicking in...
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Yours phone is .114 firmware also?
Well, something must be different, my phone and others are charging 2 or more hrs on EP880.

Found something interesting...
I have a energy monitor (http://www.elv.at/elv-energy-master-basic-energiekosten-messgeraet-1.html) between EP880 charger and the wall outlet.
If I use the usb cable EC801 (witch comes with Xperia Z1C) on my dk32 dock, the e-mon. shows about 7.5W energy consumption @~50% battery level !
If I use the usb cable EC450 (witch comes with my Xperia P) on my dk32 dock, the e-mon. shows about 5W energy consumtion @~50% battery level !
Conclusion: Phone charges much more faster with EC801 !
I like the older cable because its much more flexible then the new one - so that's the reason I used the old one and than I saw the differences on the measurement device....
FYI: Charging power is also depended on battery level -

Whats yours charging times (from 5-100%)?
Mine 2hrs-2hrs 20min.
I have EC-801 cable and DK31 dock with hims factory cable, same charging times on both.

poolmaker said:
Whats yours charging times (from 5-100%)?
Mine 2hrs-2hrs 20min.
I have EC-801 cable and DK31 dock with hims factory cable, same charging times on both.
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Can`t say that for now because I have the phone since a few days....
Edit: Charging time from 20-90%(green led) is 90min. and for the last 10% further 30min.

czrtst said:
Can`t say that for now because I have the phone since a few days....
Edit: Charging time from 20-90%(green led) is 90min. and for the last 10% further 30min.
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Yes, thats it, 2hrs is minimum from 5-10% to full battery (with EP880 charger ofcourse).

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This chager charges my phone from 4% to %100 in exactly 3 hours.

So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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sfhub said:
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
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2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
SpaceMonky said:
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...

[Q] Battery life and Android OS drain bug

For anyone using Android 4.0, specifically running it as stock on this device, do you experience the same battery drain issues commonly seen in Gingerbread? You know the one where the process Android OS uses an ungodly amount of battery life through suspend and events/0?
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
h9290 said:
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
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I own Nexus S too and experience the same, slow charging ... using the charger from Samsung (default).
So, I changed the charger and I use the one that came with the HTC Desire
And it is much faster, like 3 hours to go fully charged compared to more than 5 hours.
So, there you go, change your charger!
sheek360 said:
Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
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I can usually get my nexus S to a full charge in an hour or two, depending on how empty I let it get. It's fast enough that if I've forgot to charge & need to go out a 20 minute blast will get me through the evening.
No idea who made the charger.. I've got a house full of the damned things these days
So what about life time?
Just check your chargers mA output, the higher the nr, the faster the charge. A computer USB port outputs 500mA wich gives a rather slow charge normal mA on chargers is around 700mA -> 1A. Keep in mind though that higher mA resulting in a faster charge puts more stress on your battery and it WILL get hotter, to high numbers can even damage your battery so be carefull and monitor your batterys temp when trying a new charger!
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7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
h9290 said:
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
removed from a 100% charge at 9:15am GMT
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h9290 said:
7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
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Wow! That sounds really really good tbh! Makes me really happy to hear :-D
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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As far as i know USB before 2.0 needed external power supply, meaning your device should not be able to charge from this type of USB. But to answer your question, no, you can not damage an electric device by undervoltage or lower Amps.
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Hope to get the GN soon.
Like to see and test how the charging is with different chargers.
Have seen slow charging ( also better hold out ) with different chargers.
My best charging is stil with the original desire ( charges quick and battery holds longer ).
Galaxy S plus is slow, wildefire also slow...

[Q] Battery charging too slow!?!?!

Charging time for my battery is pretty slow. I takes more than 3 hours from 10% to full! It doesn't matter if it is chraging with the carger or via USB. Is this normal with the Nexus? I had Htc Inspire 4G, and the charging took 2 hours top!
*if i use the phone while charging e.g. play some game, the battery is still draining instead of charging.
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You should get better results with an A/C charger but I've seen some wall adapters still read as if its plugged in via USB. You can check by going to settings >> battery while it's plugged in and it should read A/C charging.
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Charging time for my battery is pretty slow. I takes more than 3 hours from 10% to full! It doesn't matter if it is chraging with the carger or via USB. Is this normal with the Nexus? I had Htc Inspire 4G, and the charging took 2 hours top!
*if i use the phone while charging e.g. play some game, the battery is still draining instead of charging.
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What is the max current (mA) the charger you use can provide? Divide the capacity of your battery (in mAh) by the charge current. That is your approximate charge time in hours. I believe most AC chargers can charge with 1A, so a stock GSM battery of 1750 mAh should take less than 2 hours from being discharged to fully charged. Mine does.
The behavior that the GNEX will discharge even while being charged with a non AC charger (including car chargers) when gaming/navigating is not uncommon.
3rdstring said:
You should get better results with an A/C charger but I've seen some wall adapters still read as if its plugged in via USB. You can check by going to settings >> battery while it's plugged in and it should read A/C charging.
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Yes, it's reading A/C charging, but the charger is from alcatel with 400mAh output.
Petrovski80 said:
What is the max current (mA) the charger you use can provide? Divide the capacity of your battery (in mAh) by the charge current. That is your approximate charge time in hours. I believe most AC chargers can charge with 1A, so a stock GSM battery of 1750 mAh should take less than 2 hours from being discharged to fully charged. Mine does.
The behavior that the GNEX will discharge even while being charged with a non AC charger (including car chargers) when gaming/navigating is not uncommon.
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I've been charging it with Alcatel charger with 400mAh output. I'll try with Samsung charger with 5.0V output which says it's equal to 0.7A because I don't have the original (I think i have used it before, but i dont recall that it was any faster).
Could be kernel related issue, since there is an option to "Fast charge" via USB and it's enabled?
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I've been charging it with Alcatel charger with 400mAh output. I'll try with Samsung charger with 5.0V output which says it's equal to 0.7A because I don't have the original (I think i have used it before, but i dont recall that it was any faster).
Could be kernel related issue, since there is an option to "Fast charge" via USB and it's enabled?
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its not likely a kernel issue unless you are on some experimental one, but you would be able to easily find out by looking at the forum cause others would have the issue. And if you didn't know the Fast Charge option is to make your phone think its hooked up to a wall port if you are charging from your laptop or if your car charger is only being used a usb port thing.
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its not likely a kernel issue unless you are on some experimental one, but you would be able to easily find out by looking at the forum cause others would have the issue. And if you didn't know the Fast Charge option is to make your phone think its hooked up to a wall port if you are charging from your laptop or if your car charger is only being used a usb port thing.
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It's franco kernel, nightly 251, pretty stable from what i've read in the thread. Also, I know what does Fast Charge option do, but I thought that somehow it messed something up. While I was googling for answers, I found some forum, where was mentioned the battery chip that is regulating the power it's using to charge the battery could somehow get messed up. Maybe I have bad batt.
mine battery too takes 3 hours to full charge using stock samsung wall charger. I'm using stock rom and kernel.
Mines takes 1 hr 30 minutes tops with fast charge
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You are using a 400mA charger, the gnex comes with a 1A one. Go figure.
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Petrovski80 said:
What is the max current (mA) the charger you use can provide? Divide the capacity of your battery (in mAh) by the charge current. That is your approximate charge time in hours. I believe most AC chargers can charge with 1A, so a stock GSM battery of 1750 mAh should take less than 2 hours from being discharged to fully charged. Mine does.
The behavior that the GNEX will discharge even while being charged with a non AC charger (including car chargers) when gaming/navigating is not uncommon.
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That is because the car charger most likely did not short both the data pins out, therefore you notice the discharging phenomenon because the phone will only take in 500mA without the data pins shorted or with kernel fast charge enabled. How is 500mA going to keep up with navigation, GPS and all other tasks?
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Also realize that your previous phones battery probably had a lower capacity than the gnex therefore coming from 2 hours, 3 hours isn't that bad for charging a bigger battery
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ordevski said:
Charging time for my battery is pretty slow. I takes more than 3 hours from 10% to full! It doesn't matter if it is chraging with the carger or via USB. Is this normal with the Nexus? I had Htc Inspire 4G, and the charging took 2 hours top!
*if i use the phone while charging e.g. play some game, the battery is still draining instead of charging.
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I don't recommend using another charger I used a galaxy infuse 4g charger and in a week my battery got so hot it didnt even charge anymore
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As has been stated get a GOOD quality charger. I might be weird but both my car charger and spare outlet charger came from Verizon. At least when i have had something not work they have been more than happy to open another and fully test in store for however long it takes. Sadly, my last car charger broke and I am too lazy to get another, my solution was to use a car inverter since I charge my other devices regularly on long trips. Plugging in a regular wall outlet from, oddly enough Motorola, does the job just fine. Alas, the majority of chargers my coworkers leave out are for lesser phones and will not even register on my beastly Nexus.
However i think i damaged my charger (original 1Ampere samsung wall charger) when i've been in Malta (i'm from Italy) last August. Before the holyday my nexus charged in 2 hours or less. During the holyday the charger heated a lot more than when using at home and now the charging process lasts about 3 hours. Also, when i connect the charger to the wall (even if the phone is unplugged) i hear a low almost-ultrasonic whistle.
I hope the damage isn't the battery.
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However i think i damaged my charger (original 1Ampere samsung wall charger) when i've been in Malta (i'm from Italy) last August. Before the holyday my nexus charged in 2 hours or less. During the holyday the charger heated a lot more than when using at home and now the charging process lasts about 3 hours. Also, when i connect the charger to the wall (even if the phone is unplugged) i hear a low almost-ultrasonic whistle.
I hope the damage isn't the battery.
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I have the same problems too. I tried to use other charger, but the problem still remain. My charging process lasts about 2.30 h to charge from 55% to 100%. I really hate this because I need to charghe my phone faster. Please help us. (I'm italian too).
Ginuzzo50 said:
I have the same problems too. I tried to use other charger, but the problem still remain. My charging process lasts about 2.30 h to charge from 55% to 100%. I really hate this because I need to charghe my phone faster. Please help us. (I'm italian too).
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Same problem here with another charger, and also via USB with Fast Charge enabled!
ordevski said:
Same problem here with another charger, and also via USB with Fast Charge enabled!
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Where did you find the settings to set the Fast Charge?
Ginuzzo50 said:
Where did you find the settings to set the Fast Charge?
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With a custom kernel.
Ginuzzo50 said:
Where did you find the settings to set the Fast Charge?
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I'm using CodenameAndroid ROM, which has kernel that allows you to enable Fast Charge. It's located in Settings --> Performance --> Kernel controls --> USB fast charge
you tslees
ordevski said:
I'm using CodenameAndroid ROM, which has kernel that allows you to enable Fast Charge. It's located in Settings --> Performance --> Kernel controls --> USB fast charge
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Thank you very much. And the effective result is really a faster charging? Does it works good or not?

tab s 10.5 charging extremely slowly

even after replacing battery and charger. Takes 1 hour to charge 1% . this problem started few days ago:crying:any help?
Have you tried an new cable and charger, and check your charging port is clean.
Have you had any flickering on the screen, if so you might have a bad battery connection.
John.
Had the same problem, replaced the battery without success as well. Had to replace the charging port and it's been working perfectly ever since.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you tried an new cable and charger, and check your charging port is clean.
Have you had any flickering on the screen, if so you might have a bad battery connection.
John.
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yh like i mentioned i have tried many chargers but no luck
williamvito said:
Had the same problem, replaced the battery without success as well. Had to replace the charging port and it's been working perfectly ever since.
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yh i to have replaced the battery still no success. yh most likely a faulty port.
This has just started happening to me. Sometimes it gets so bad that it dies on the charger.
I have had my T800 2 years tomorrow and the battery is fine, I use an magnetic microusb adapter so no port wear.
How long have you guy`s had your S1 before you started having problem with the battery? also do you game or use any apps that eat the battery or get the tablet hot as that is really bad for the battery.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I have had my T800 2 years tomorrow and the battery is fine, I use an magnetic microusb adapter so no port wear.
How long have you guy`s had your S1 before you started having problem with the battery? also do you game or use any apps that eat the battery or get the tablet hot as that is really bad for the battery.
John.
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i brought my t805 in july 2015. i hardly use it, as i use my nexus 9 which is way faster and easy to carry. i basically didn't use the tab s for a week or 2 and then when i plugged it on charge, it was taking forever to charge, so... :/
i ordered a flex cable from ebay for just £
5, it includes the usb port as well as the sd slot. Will be replacing that, hopefully it will fix the issue.
cooltranier13px said:
This has just started happening to me. Sometimes it gets so bad that it dies on the charger.
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yh i will report back once i have replaced the usb port. should fix the problem
5warafat1 said:
i brought my t805 in july 2015. i hardly use it, as i use my nexus 9 which is way faster and easy to carry. i basically didn't use the tab s for a week or 2 and then when i plugged it on charge, it was taking forever to charge, so... :/
i ordered a flex cable from ebay for just £
5, it includes the usb port as well as the sd slot. Will be replacing that, hopefully it will fix the issue.
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I wonder if the battery went flat while you were not using it, was it turned off or just in sleep/standby mode.
John.
haha no its not the battery as i have already replaced it with a new battery and still the same. i think it was turned off.
so how long does it take you guys to fully charge your t800/t805 from 0 to 100% while the device is powered off?
From what i have read around 5 hours for the 10.5" for a full charge when in sleep mode, maybe a 4.5 hours when powered off.
But charging speed depends on an compatible charger and quality usb cable, full charge current is 1.75 amps according to my usb power meter on my T800
John.
5warafat1 said:
so how long does it take you guys to fully charge your t800/t805 from 0 to 100% while the device is powered off?
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From what i have read around 5 hours for the 10.5" for a full charge when in sleep mode, maybe a 4.5 hours when powered off.
But charging speed depends on an compatible charger and quality usb cable, full charge current is 1.75 amps according to my usb power meter on my T800
John.
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hmm, because mine takes 3 hours to charge 18%. eventhough am using a note 5 fast charger and also tried it with official tab s charger too no luck.????
the usb ribon arrived yesterday, so replaced it. still no difference.:crying:
Have you tried more than one usb cable, as it make a BIG difference, like 0.5amp vs 1.7amp you can have the best charger in the world but if your cable is faulty or poor quality.
Your battery could be bad (how long have you had your tablet?), or your battery power connector could be loose/faulty(mostly 8.4" S1), or you microusb port could have become faulty.
Also if you use a third-party charger it has to talk to your tablet in an language it understand or you tablet will charge slowly, there are a number of different charger languages Samsung has a different one to Apple, or HTC that is why an Apple charger might only charge your Samsung tablet slowly.
I recommend everybody gets an "usb power meter/monitor" they only cost around $10 and it allows you to see straight away how much power you tablet is taking from you usb charger and some brands can trick you tablet into charging at full speed on an Apple charger, I bought an Belkin 2.4amp charger and it was only charging my T800 at 900ma, I changed a setting on my usb power meter and now my T800 is charging at 1750ma
John.
5warafat1 said:
hmm, because mine takes 3 hours to charge 18%. eventhough am using a note 5 fast charger and also tried it with official tab s charger too no luck.????
the usb ribon arrived yesterday, so replaced it. still no difference.:crying:
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Hello
After suffering slow charging, like 700 or little more ma Controlled by 3ctoolbox, Im now using a rampow nilon braided micro USB câble.
Now allways charging first at 1750 ma and fall ingénieur slowly from 80% to 100%, like a charging perfect mode must be.
The câble was baught at Amazon and work fine untill now. Verry small prize and quality.
https://www.amazon.fr/Cable-Micro-U...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479032168&sr=1-5
I use these Tronsmart cables, A 5 pack for £6.99 and they charge my 10.5" at 1750ma according to my usb power monitor.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Tron...479053316&sr=8-2&keywords=tronsmart+micro+usb
John
Mrodfr said:
Hello
After suffering slow charging, like 700 or little more ma Controlled by 3ctoolbox, Im now using a rampow nilon braided micro USB câble.
Now allways charging first at 1750 ma and fall ingénieur slowly from 80% to 100%, like a charging perfect mode must be.
The câble was baught at Amazon and work fine untill now. Verry small prize and quality.
https://www.amazon.fr/Cable-Micro-U...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479032168&sr=1-5
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From what i have read around 5 hours for the 10.5" for a full charge when in sleep mode, maybe a 4.5 hours when powered off.
But charging speed depends on an compatible charger and quality usb cable, full charge current is 1.75 amps according to my usb power meter on my T800
John.
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surprisingly i tried charging it with a cheap 3rd party cable and it has charged 48% in 2 hours whilst it was powered off, so it should take just around 4 hours to charge 100%.
when compared to the other 2 official Samsung chargers which charged more like 10% in 2 hours. quite strange results
5warafat1 said:
surprisingly i tried charging it with a cheap 3rd party cable and it has charged 48% in 2 hours whilst it was powered off, so it should take just around 4 hours to charge 100%.
when compared to the other 2 official Samsung chargers which charged more like 10% in 2 hours. quite strange results
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Your tab will charge at full speed approx 1.75amp from 0% to 80% and then the charge rate will get lower and lower as it get`s closer to 100%
So the first 80% charges the fastest and then last 20% takes a lot longer.
EDIT: 80% of an 7900mah battery is 6320mah So it should take approx 4hrs to charge from 0% to 80% with an 10% charge efficiency
John.

Is it possible to turn off the dash charge?

Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
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I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
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Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?

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