Worth the upgrade from DNA? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the DNA and it is a pretty solid phone. Same size screen and resolution as the M8. I can get the phone and the dot case for $200 @ verizon and sell my DNA for around $200, essentially breaking even. I am not sure what is coming down the road but I like HTC devices.
Should I pull the trigger on this? What about you guys who have DNA's and One's?
Thanks!

Fourstarzzzz said:
I have the DNA and it is a pretty solid phone. Same size screen and resolution as the M8. I can get the phone and the dot case for $200 @ verizon and sell my DNA for around $200, essentially breaking even. I am not sure what is coming down the road but I like HTC devices.
Should I pull the trigger on this? What about you guys who have DNA's and One's?
Thanks!
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I wouldn't say that it's such a huge difference that you need to upgrade, but it really depends on you. If you don't have any problems with your DNA and are comfortable keeping it for a while, there's nothing wrong with just keeping it. Performance on the DNA is very good still, so it's not like say, having an iPhone 4 with a degraded iOS 7 experience with the option to go to a 5S.
The M8 does give you some nice upgrades, in terms of build quality, battery, audio, and some software features (IR Blaster, double tap to wake, etc). It's a worthy upgrade from the DNA, but yeah, kind of depends on you. DNA will only decrease in value going forward, and I'm actually trying to get rid of the two I have right now, replacing them both with M8's...

raichur0xx0rz said:
I wouldn't say that it's such a huge difference that you need to upgrade, but it really depends on you. If you don't have any problems with your DNA and are comfortable keeping it for a while, there's nothing wrong with just keeping it.
The M8 does give you some nice upgrades, in terms of build quality, battery, audio, and some software features (IR Blaster, double tap to wake, etc). It's a worthy upgrade from the DNA, but yeah, kind of depends on you. DNA will only decrease in value going forward, and I'm actually trying to get rid of the two I have right now, replacing them both with M8's...
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Thanks! I think the main reason why is to try and get as much as I can for my DNA. Also, the battery really drains fast when using GPS/watching videos etc. From about 6am till 10am using gps for about 20 min and watching videos for 1 1/2 hours, my battery was at 4%.
Plus I like that dot case

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[Q] Droid Incredible Or Nexus Prime

So my droid incredible just had a hardware failure and im going to have to get it replaced for free but because they dont make it any more they are going to most likely give me a droid incredible 2. But i have a free upgrade and im asking should i stick to my texting keyboarded non-android phone until the nexus prime comes out or get the droid incredible 2 for free. If i get the droid incredible 2 then i have to wait until march or so for the upgrade to come back and get a new phone.
The Inc 2 has some nice custom ROMs and has S-OFF and will most likely get an ICS port...so if you can deal with single core WVGA display, still a pretty nice phone, I might wait to see what comes out at CES 2012 in January.
Wouldn't the incredible break be covered by warranty and therefore the droid incredible 2 would be free as a replacement and you would still get to keep your upgrade?
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The Inc 2 has some nice custom ROMs and has S-OFF and will most likely get an ICS port...so if you can deal with single core WVGA display, still a pretty nice phone, I might wait to see what comes out at CES 2012 in January.
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Soooooo......
ithrewitontheground said:
Wouldn't the incredible break be covered by warranty and therefore the droid incredible 2 would be free as a replacement and you would still get to keep your upgrade?
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technically yea but my parents say that if I get the incredible 2 right now then the other upgrade goes to my sister and I have to wait for my real upgrade for my line in march or so.
I say stick it out with the regular phone if you don't get to keep your upgrade. Gotta keep it fresh when it comes to smartphones, the tech moves fast and I figure if I were to buy a phone 5 or 6 months after it hits the shelf, then that's pretty much 1/4 of its (maybe) two year life already gone.
The Nexus will carry you farther and faster than a Dinc2 ever will... Whether we get it or not obviously remains to be seen, but it wont take a whole lot of patience to hold off till a leaked shot of future hotness shows up.
Prime, no question about it! Give me ICS!
I'd say get the dInc2 now. That will easily hold you over for 6 months since it's a noticeably faster device in all ways, not to mention the screen is a LOT better. By the time your upgrade rolls around, you'll have had time for things to show up to market, be reviewed, and prove themselves. I my opinion, being the first clown on the Prime train is a good way to get laughed at when the magic and hype wears down to "Geeze... This thing is a battery sucking, quirky, unstable heap of crap." AMOLED screens are NOT as or more efficient than LCD in common use. Beyond that, 4.6 inches is WAY too big for a screen. Go hold a Thunderbolt. That's 4.3 and that's big. Just imagine the size difference between the dInc2 and the Tbolt... now add that difference to the Tbolt. I've got big hands and I know I wouldn't like it.
I just got an insurance replacement and it was a dinc 1 sooo,what there saying on the phone isn't entirely true
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I just got an insurance replacement and it was a dinc 1 sooo,what there saying on the phone isn't entirely true
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That seems to be rare. Sorry about your luck.
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I'd say get the dInc2 now. That will easily hold you over for 6 months since it's a noticeably faster device in all ways, not to mention the screen is a LOT better. By the time your upgrade rolls around, you'll have had time for things to show up to market, be reviewed, and prove themselves. I my opinion, being the first clown on the Prime train is a good way to get laughed at when the magic and hype wears down to "Geeze... This thing is a battery sucking, quirky, unstable heap of crap." AMOLED screens are NOT as or more efficient than LCD in common use. Beyond that, 4.6 inches is WAY too big for a screen. Go hold a Thunderbolt. That's 4.3 and that's big. Just imagine the size difference between the dInc2 and the Tbolt... now add that difference to the Tbolt. I've got big hands and I know I wouldn't like it.
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Everything you just posted was opinion stated as fact. My AMOLED Inc is just as good as my LCD Inc was battery wise (18+ hours on the stock battery) and the screen is prettier in my opinion (see what I did there). Battery sucking is laughable at best coming from a Thunderbolt owner and really an HTC owner in general considering our beloved OEM is constantly outdone in that field by both Moto and Samsung when stock.
The Nexus Prime (if it even comes to Verizon which is questionable given who we're talking about) will be the best phone on the market and will, without a doubt, make the Inc 2 obsolete (as well as the Thunderbolt for that matter). Personally OP, I would wait and see if the Vigor or Prime show up and then, if they don't before the end of the year, pick up an Incredible on CL that way you don't use an upgrade. BTW, the Prime will likely be a $299 LTE device like the Bionic, not $199 if that makes a difference.
This might be a little off topic, but i think the droid prime will just be a Verizon branded Nexus Prime. (because everybody knows how much big red likes their bloat.)
I don't doubt that we'll get it eventually. I'm more concerned about Verizon ruining a phone like that.
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Inc2 and wait for upgrade. The way phones are changing, who knows what will be available then. I am waiting for the Vigor. As long as my Inc holds up, I am holding out!
zerocool79346 said:
Everything you just posted was opinion stated as fact. My AMOLED Inc is just as good as my LCD Inc was battery wise (18+ hours on the stock battery) and the screen is prettier in my opinion (see what I did there). Battery sucking is laughable at best coming from a Thunderbolt owner and really an HTC owner in general considering our beloved OEM is constantly outdone in that field by both Moto and Samsung when stock.
The Nexus Prime (if it even comes to Verizon which is questionable given who we're talking about) will be the best phone on the market and will, without a doubt, make the Inc 2 obsolete (as well as the Thunderbolt for that matter). Personally OP, I would wait and see if the Vigor or Prime show up and then, if they don't before the end of the year, pick up an Incredible on CL that way you don't use an upgrade. BTW, the Prime will likely be a $299 LTE device like the Bionic, not $199 if that makes a difference.
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Well, you're pretty damn sharp there, Sherlock! Thanks for point out the obvious to the rest of us! That's why I said "In my opinion"... Wanna know what is a fact? That AMOLED screen sucked ass on several fronts. First, it DID eat power like mad. That's not opinion. That's fact you can look up. That's why the screen was so dim. For it to produce the same levels of brightness on a white screen it would eat nearly 50% more power. On top of that, the AMOLED was criticized in nearly every review for it's complete failure to duplicate white. It was always a very dull, skewed white that stands in stark contrast to the LCD version, as well as the Tbolt, which have one of the truest white screens of any modern phone.
As for battery life, I've never seen a dInc last 18 hours, unless it was sitting untouched on a table for 18 hours. Mine struggled to make it 1/3 that long. Running CM7.1 on it hasn't seemed to make a lot of difference either. The onslaught of battery complaints about that device in reviews and in forums aren't hard to find. That's why the Thunderbolt was called ANOTHER one-call wonder in initial reviews... because the dInc was the FIRST one-call wonder! Who ever has been telling you the Tbolt eats power worse than the dInc is blowing smoke up your ass. I have both. Not even in stock trim does the Tbolt's battery suck as bad the dInc's. Since the latest OTA, it blows it out of the water. In the latest OTA the radios were SERIOUSLY reworked, as was the radio interface layer to the ROM. There were serious issues with power consumption, but those have been history for a cool month now at least.
So, while some of us are making it up, I'm looking it up. So, how about you go to ARStechnica.com or Anandtech.com and LOOK IT UP.
Oh yeah, a Nexus will get updates first too... I mean that's just badass. So a Super AMOLED+ display and timely updates as soon as Google is ready to let it go? Pretty awesome.
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Well, you're pretty damn sharp there, Sherlock! Thanks for point out the obvious to the rest of us! That's why I said "In my opinion"... Wanna know what is a fact? That AMOLED screen sucked ass on several fronts. First, it DID eat power like mad. That's not opinion. That's fact you can look up. That's why the screen was so dim. For it to produce the same levels of brightness on a white screen it would eat nearly 50% more power. On top of that, the AMOLED was criticized in nearly every review for it's complete failure to duplicate white. It was always a very dull, skewed white that stands in stark contrast to the LCD version, as well as the Tbolt, which have one of the truest white screens of any modern phone.
As for battery life, I've never seen a dInc last 18 hours, unless it was sitting untouched on a table for 18 hours. Mine struggled to make it 1/3 that long. Running CM7.1 on it hasn't seemed to make a lot of difference either. The onslaught of battery complaints about that device in reviews and in forums aren't hard to find. That's why the Thunderbolt was called ANOTHER one-call wonder in initial reviews... because the dInc was the FIRST one-call wonder! Who ever has been telling you the Tbolt eats power worse than the dInc is blowing smoke up your ass. I have both. Not even in stock trim does the Tbolt's battery suck as bad the dInc's. Since the latest OTA, it blows it out of the water. In the latest OTA the radios were SERIOUSLY reworked, as was the radio interface layer to the ROM. There were serious issues with power consumption, but those have been history for a cool month now at least.
So, while some of us are making it up, I'm looking it up. So, how about you go to ARStechnica.com or Anandtech.com and LOOK IT UP.
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Lol I've never understood how you guys only got 5 or 6 hours out of your batteries. I've been through 2 Incs and 3 Eris handsets and I've NEVER gotten anything that bad. Then again, my phone is not glued to my hand and I do have a social life outside of its screen. I have ran at least 10 different ROMs and probably 15 kernels on the phone, NEVER have gotten this horrible battery life I see around here and I don't use any apps that basically make smartphones into RAZRs.
Its not an opinion, the TB blew ass in the battery department, so did the Inc and so does every phone HTC makes (outside of the Inc 2) when compared to their Samsung and Moto counterparts. The Charge, by some reviewers, got DOUBLE the battery life of the TB, and the X has always murdered the Inc. Argue all you want, HTC sucks when it comes to battery life, and I will be extremely surprised if the Bionic and Prime don't reiterate this point when they drop.
Your points about the Inc's AMOLED are useless, because its my opinion that it is a much prettier screen and most of your points are absolutely ridiculous to me. I've held them both side by side, the colors of the AMOLED pop WAY more and be serious, they both suck in sunlight. BTW, since the introduction of SAMOLED+ technology basically everything reviewers criticized the first generation for has been resolved and many of them picked its screen over the IP4 which is saying something considering how badly Apple has most of the mainstream tech sites wrapped around their pinky.
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Lol I've never understood how you guys only got 5 or 6 hours out of your batteries. I've been through 2 Incs and 3 Eris handsets and I've NEVER gotten anything that bad. Then again, my phone is not glued to my hand and I do have a social life outside of its screen. I have ran at least 10 different ROMs and probably 15 kernels on the phone, NEVER have gotten this horrible battery life I see around here and I don't use any apps that basically make smartphones into RAZRs.
Its not an opinion, the TB blew ass in the battery department, so did the Inc and so does every phone HTC makes (outside of the Inc 2) when compared to their Samsung and Moto counterparts. The Charge, by some reviewers, got DOUBLE the battery life of the TB, and the X has always murdered the Inc. Argue all you want, HTC sucks when it comes to battery life, and I will be extremely surprised if the Bionic and Prime don't reiterate this point when they drop.
Your points about the Inc's AMOLED are useless, because its my opinion that it is a much prettier screen and most of your points are absolutely ridiculous to me. I've held them both side by side, the colors of the AMOLED pop WAY more and be serious, they both suck in sunlight. BTW, since the introduction of SAMOLED+ technology basically everything reviewers criticized the first generation for has been resolved and many of them picked its screen over the IP4 which is saying something considering how badly Apple has most of the mainstream tech sites wrapped around their pinky.
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It's got vivid colors... that are about as honest as an Enron executive. You're smoking crack if you're gonna tell me the dInc AMOLED held a candle to the SLCD it was upgraded with, or the Tbolt, or ANY modern LCD, when it came to brightness. I can't tell if my dInc's screen is even on in direct sun. I can actually read my Tbolt clearly under the same conditions. The Tbolt, even before the latest OTA, was impossible to kill inside 5.25 hours surfing the web and streaming some videos. I often killed my dInc reading news over dinner. I couldn't make that thing last 12 hours sitting untouched on a table. Don't lie and say the Charge gets twice the battery life of a Tbolt because it doesn't and you can't find a review that even suggests such a thing. I'll tell ya what else, dumbass. I had the dInc2 so I know exactly how that one performs too. The Tbolt falls about between the dInc2 and the dInc in battery life. Not great, but I didn't have to buy an extended battery to take the phone to dinner. Battery life isn't an issue of opinion. It's directly observable fact. You must be one of the lucky few that live directly beneath a tower.
So far as I can tell, the new AMOLED screen is roughly on par with an LCD in brightness in general use. It's also close on power consumption. I still wouldn't buy a Samsung for it's screen. I don't like the technical aspects of the hummingbird, specifically that it can't link up with the MDM9600 so you only get voice+data on LTE. I dont' know what the hell people do with phones they need some massive ultra-high resolution screen for. I guess if I didn't have a social life and the phone was glued to my hand and that screen was my whole life, maybe it would get me off. But I just want to read the thing, not watch full length films or play the latest video games. IT'S A PHONE. I'm not even sure what the hell you do with 2 cores. I couldn't care less about a phone that beats a PS3 in graphics, but that's what it appears a lot of you are waiting for.
So tell me, I'm honestly curious... What the hell do you really do with a phone that's got a 4.6 inch screen, dual cores, graphics nearly that of an XBOX, 1080p video recording, and some stupid-high resolution screen? I mean, what are you actually going to do when you get a phone like that?
If everyone ascribed to your reasoning we'd still be watching B+W TVs and talking on rotary phones since hey, they're good enough, right?
I'd probably do just about anything with a Nexus Prime
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If everyone ascribed to your reasoning we'd still be watching B+W TVs and talking on rotary phones since hey, they're good enough, right?
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Ya know, I had a thought some time ago.... When is good enough actually good enough? The LCD on my new ASUS laptop is indistinguishable from the LCD on my 5 year old Acer, except for size. The CPU is a lot better, but is it so much better I'm doing things now that I couldn't do before? Maybe one or 2 things.
I used to be a guy who stayed pretty close to the bleeding edge of technology. Then I realized it was pretty pointless... and expensive. If I have a use for it, I'll buy it, and I've owned some ridiculously expensive stuff. Go price out what an Adaptec SCSI RAID controller costs. Or a U320 actively terminated cable. There's no reason I couldn't build some massive beast of a box with 4 quad core CPU's, 24gig of RAM, a RAID5 SAS array, some stupidly fast SLI cards, water cooled and OC'd to the gills... but that's pretty much overkill for writing, watching a movie, and playing a game or 2.
So, let me pose the same question you pose in reverse. Why don't we all have SGI Altix systems sitting next to our desks? I can promise you whatever you've got now is stone age next to that.

Droid Turbo 2 First Impressions

I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
Good
Turbo charging is much faster.
The screen quality is great (plastic smchmastic!)
Power and volume buttons are improved.
This puppy is fast!
Android 5.1.1 is snappy.
New Moto tools are nice. I'm fond of "lift for voice."
The form factor is an improvement over the Turbo.
Addition of the SD card is very welcome!
I prefer the soft touch material to the Kevlar or ballistic nylon options on the Turbo.
The camera is surprisingly good and has zero shutter lag. It took some good pictures in low light.
Drum roll please... The volume is excellent!!!
Not so good
Do they have to keep making them bigger?
Did I mention it's bigger?
A fingerprint scanner would have been a welcomed addition.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's bigger.
Silly little Verizon logo on the chin is unnecessary.
I'll update this list throughout the day.
Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
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I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
I'll update this list throughout the day.
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Any chance you can post a photo/vid of the screens side by side on like min/mid/max brightness?
I have a Maxx, but won the DT2 during the droidseeker disaster yesterday
Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
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Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
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ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
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Perhaps, but I can't find fault with it. Probably more black around the screen then some of the newer slimmer phones.
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
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I've read reviews that say only the right portion of the bottom speaker bit is actually used for music/speakerphone. No idea if they knew what they were talking about though. Could the bit to the left just be for looks?
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So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
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No, as far as I am concerned the screen quality is at least equal.
Yeah I'd say the negatives pretty much come down to:
1. Big
2. No fingerprint scanner yet
3. Screen size is not as big as it could be, verizon logo, lost some of the aesthetic appeal since the Moto X
Fwiw I looked at four different T2s and every screen was dark and dingy compared to my Pure with full brightness on all of them.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
I overheard a sales person saying that they give you a code to follow up with Moto directly. No idea if this is true. Probably a lot of confusion with a new program.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
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I put a motomaker order in at about 9pm last night, by 1030, it was "being built." I could see it shipping in 24 hours based on this. I seem to remember hearing motomaker would be 1-2 days to build.
Against my principle of waiting for it to have android 6 (so I have no right to complain if it takes forever to get marshmallow... I knew better Lol), I picked up a turbo 2 today.
So far I like it a lot. I was worried about the screen being too detached with all of the layers, and while it does seem farther away than on my note 5, it isn't a big deal to me.
No fingerprint scanner isn't a big deal to me since I have a moto 360, and use it as a trusted device.
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Picked up a dt2 today. Traded in my old lg g2. Loved my droid maxx and still have it as a backup phone. So far I'm really liking this phone. Screen is bright and ui seems fast. Camera is OK but I've seen better. Fp scanner would have been nice but not a have to for me right now. Under development option there's a unlock oem bootloader toggle. Not sure what's that about. It can't be that easy. Yeah the split grills at bottom are not too attractive but hey who really looks at your phone but you. It's not that big a deal to me. Sound is pretty good. Overall I'm happy.
So been away from XDA for a while but just picked up my Droid Turbo 2 and loving it so far... Nice solid build quality, solid reception, Ballistic material has a nice feel, cameras are typical moto in my opinion but good enough for my use... the front flash for the times when the gf wants a selfie is going to be a big plus... overall very pleased so far... looking forward to more time with this device....
Also OEM (bootloader unlocking) has a toggle under developer options so maybe it wont be so locked down...
Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
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Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
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Really? I was going to order online and was going to do the promotion of the trade in, but they only appraised my Turbo at a value of $191
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Buyer's Remorse, is Droid Turbo 2 worth it???

I got to be honest, I may suck up the $35 and return this puppy. So far it just hasn't wowed me enough to be worth the $720 (for the 64GB). It doesn't seem faster than my Droid Turbo 1, and the camera is faster at taking pics, but the pics aren't better. The battery life seems about the same. I am not a fan of the size of it. Octa-Core SchMocta-Core is what I say..lol. I do like the design, but again the additional size takes away from that IMO. I went to the DT1 bc of the smaller size coming from a Note 3. I feel like I've gone back up to a Note 3 in size and that is not what I wanted. And it's loaded with games I don't want with additional apps I don't want either. smh. great 5MP front facing camera, though I don't often take selfies...
Also I'm getting complaints of people not hearing me or I sound like I'm breaking up. I'm not sure if it's the phone or the weather. We're having bad weather right now so I've been waiting to see if it clears up.
Can anyone convince me to keep this Turbo 2? It's not bad, but it's also not "much" better than the DT1.
The screen is better, has better white balance and slightly brighter. Battery is definitely longer lasting than DT1 (even though spec-wise it's smaller). Speakers are much louder and crisper sounding. Camera is much sharper, better white balance and the lens is better because corners are not as blurry as DT1. There is MicroSD slot. Front has 5mp with Flash. Screen has a user-replaceable top layer so when you decide to sell 1-2 years from now you can replace your scratched up screen with brand new layer from moto for $29 turning it into almost new phone. Overall design - much stronger casing, no more cracking noise when squeezing the phone. Charging is 13hrs in 15 mins vs 8hrs in 15mins, using 25W charger vs 15W. I had both phones side by side for several days. So I'm not sure in what respect DT2 is worse than DT1, it's basically better in every single aspect I can think of.
First it definitely takes better pics then the t1. It's faster taking pics as well my wife and daughter both have the t1. Now is it worth upgrading from the t1 no absolutely not. I don't know why you would waste your money. I didn't feel upgrading from the Maxx to the turbo was worth it. And that was a bigger upgrade in every way. It's only been a year take it back and wait until next year. I also don't understand you issue with size it is a hair larger that's all.
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dead batteries said:
I got to be honest, I may suck up the $35 and return this puppy. So far it just hasn't wowed me enough to be worth the $720 (for the 64GB). It doesn't seem faster than my Droid Turbo 1, and the camera is faster at taking pics, but the pics aren't better. The battery life seems about the same. I am not a fan of the size of it. Octa-Core SchMocta-Core is what I say..lol. I do like the design, but again the additional size takes away from that IMO. I went to the DT1 bc of the smaller size coming from a Note 3. I feel like I've gone back up to a Note 3 in size and that is not what I wanted. And it's loaded with games I don't want with additional apps I don't want either. smh. great 5MP front facing camera, though I don't often take selfies...
Also I'm getting complaints of people not hearing me or I sound like I'm breaking up. I'm not sure if it's the phone or the weather. We're having bad weather right now so I've been waiting to see if it clears up.
Can anyone convince me to keep this Turbo 2? It's not bad, but it's also not "much" better than the DT1.
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I love this phone but I'm coming from a lgg2. I'm my experience if you ain't happy now with it you won't be later. spend the 35 and get ya something that you will be happy with. When you spend that kind of money for something you need to completely happy.
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The screen is better, has better white balance and slightly brighter. Battery is definitely longer lasting than DT1 (even though spec-wise it's smaller). Speakers are much louder and crisper sounding. Camera is much sharper, better white balance and the lens is better because corners are not as blurry as DT1. There is MicroSD slot. Front has 5mp with Flash. Screen has a user-replaceable top layer so when you decide to sell 1-2 years from now you can replace your scratched up screen with brand new layer from moto for $29 turning it into almost new phone. Overall design - much stronger casing, no more cracking noise when squeezing the phone. Charging is 13hrs in 15 mins vs 8hrs in 15mins, using 25W charger vs 15W. I had both phones side by side for several days. So I'm not sure in what respect DT2 is worse than DT1, it's basically better in every single aspect I can think of.
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I didn't say it was a worse phone at all. I simply said it didn't WOW me out of the box, and a couple days later, I'm still not wowed sadly. I disagree with the battery lasting longer though. My DT1 lasts quite awhile with the same type of usage as my DT2.
As for another phone, there is nothing out there that impresses me. I guess it goes to show how great a job Moto did with the DT1??
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First it definitely takes better pics then the t1. It's faster taking pics as well my wife and daughter both have the t1. Now is it worth upgrading from the t1 no absolutely not. I don't know why you would waste your money. I didn't feel upgrading from the Maxx to the turbo was worth it. And that was a bigger upgrade in every way. It's only been a year take it back and wait until next year. I also don't understand you issue with size it is a hair larger that's all.
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Umm, let's just say I have small hands and leave it at that...lol
no buyers remorse here, cause i got mine for FREE !!! and IMHO, it's wayyyyyy better than the first turbo. i had one and couldn't stand it
Is the Droid Turbo 2, Moto X Force in my case (i live in Europe) worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 (2013)?
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Well, you're correct. It's a lot larger and that won't change. It was a real turn off for me. However, I find that since I can use this phone without a case, it is the same size in my front pocket as my Turbo 1 with a case. And, that was the real test for me. In the end, the rest of the spec improvements, including the SD card, are undeniable. So, I am satisfied with it. If it's too large for you, then you are probably smart to return it before your return window closes. Do I wish it was a 5" phone instead? Yes.
You can uninstall all those preloaded games. You can also go to settings-apps-all and disable all of the vzw bloatware so it is never run and you will never see it.
Have you turned off keep WiFi on when screen is off. Also have you switched to LTE/CDMA in settings? These two changes alone have tripled my battery life.
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Can anyone tell me if the Droid Turbo 2 is worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 of 2013?
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LordCapi said:
Can anyone tell me if the Droid Turbo 2 is worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 of 2013?
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You have asked this same question in 4-5 threads. Please stop it!
Ask it one place, or make a new thread altogether. Stop thread hijacking.
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You have asked this same question in 4-5 threads. Please stop it!
Ask it one place, or make a new thread altogether. Stop thread hijacking.
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Ok sorry, but I just want to know
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After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.
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After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.
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Yeah I agree turbo to a turbo 2 no bueno. I came from a droid maxx and its so much better.
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rajuabju said:
After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.
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Although I do not have the same issues you have with the device, I do agree on most points. My DT1 still does awesome. That was such a groundbreaking device for motorola to put out, unfortunately I don't think they did nearly as good a job marketing it as they are doing the the shatterproof shield DT2. I went to the V store today and saw like 4 people picking up the DT2. Made me clutch mine a little closer to my body..lol and it made me feel awesome bc I got mine thru design your own and I get a free refresh cause I got the 64GB phone
try doing this to a first gen turbo.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHrOuyLrrU&feature=youtu.be
I think they could have made some incremental improvements to the DT1, and been successful without the shatter proof screen. The only problems I had with the DT1 were the capacitive buttons, poor speaker volume, lack of SD card, and the chin portion of the plastic housing. It is otherwise an excellent device.
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try doing this to a first gen turbo.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHrOuyLrrU&feature=youtu.be
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I think everyone is aware of the shatter proof screen. The commercials are on TV ad infinitum. There's more to buying a phone then how difficult it is to break the screen.
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I think everyone is aware of the shatter proof screen. The commercials are on TV ad infinitum. There's more to buying a phone then how difficult it is to break the screen.
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Two things that are most annoying about this device are
1. People constantly complaining about the V logo..lol I wish it weren't there either, but it's not going away
2. People continuous posting or re-linking the shatterproof test video.... we've all seen it.

Was going to preorder LG G5 but will wait for M10 now

The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
I'm waiting too.
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The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
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Thanks for the tip. I'll heed your advice.
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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All metal? Ha! I'm glad I resisted and didn't buy this. After watching these, I would have been unhappy. Thanks.
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Wow! Hopefully the HTC 10 will be better.
Me too
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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That tear down video is a plus for me. The phone is easy to repair! The only criticism he makes is the "lack of premium feel". Personally that is way down on my list of concerns. I am not looking to impress anyone with how great my phone looks and I doubt anyone gives a damn anyway. I look for the features I want first and foremost. I have to admit I was not happy with how thin the glass over the screen is on the other video. That does kind off suck but I don't think it is a deal breaker for me.
I have a G5 arriving tomorrow. The camera and the replaceabe battery are what sold me. The free extra battery and charge case and the free 360 degree camera made me jump on it. I will miss the wireless charging now I am accustomed to it and have charge plates sitting everywhere! I only wonder if I should hold off opening the box until I can find out more about the HTC 10 after it is released on the 12th. I
I believe LG is on to something-- a modular phone has been my geek dream since the birth of smartphones! However, I don't think the first generation "beta" of this feature is going to be where it's at. There are a couple WOW mods (Battery and camera) that are simply awesome, but otherwise this first iteration is just a really nice albeit average phone with some snap-in "meh."
If the M10 fails to impress, the G5 is probably what I'm going to get. I didn't pre-order the G5, so I won't be getting the package either way.
I pre-ordered the G5 as I wasn't convinced of the HTC 2016 flagship a month ago.
However my pre-order for the G5 has now been delayed to the 22nd April and as a result I've been following the build up and now really liking the look of the HTC 10.
If it has a 5.1 inch or bigger LCD (not AMOLED), SD 820, 4GB RAM, I think I'll cancel my G5 and get this. I'd want the black face though, either with silver back or black back, I don't like the white fronted version in the leaks....
Time will tell tomorrow.
The G5 is a flop. Most of the reviews say it's half baked and pretty lackluster. The only good thing anyone has to say about it is that the camera is good.
I am currently using the S7 Edge but I have one more Jump until June. (I am on T-Mobile's Jump on Demand program which gives me 3 upgrades a year). I was going to maybe move to the G5 or the HTC 10 since I wasn't all that impressed with the S7E. After the major update T-Mobile pushed out for the S7E last week, my mind changed and I am now extremely impressed with the S7E. The battery lasts forever and the touchscreen is no longer overly sensitive.
That being said, I will wait to see what the HTC 10 brings. I love the look of the phone and I like Sense more than TW. The only thing I wish it had was a larger display but I can live with 5.2".
At the end of the day, the G5 is already crossed off the list. I played around with one in the store and was totally unimpressed. It felt like crap in my hand. The chamfered edges are too sharp and feel uncomfortable while I'm gaming in horizontal view. The display is also very average. Not impressed one bit. I wouldn't call it bad but it wasn't what I'd expect from LG. When it comes to looks, I know it comes down to personal preference but damn the G5 us fugly. When you hold a S7E next to it, you can just see that the S7E is on a whole nother level when it comes to sleekness. Everything wasn't bad for the G5 though. The UI felt snappy and I didn't notice and lag/jitters.
I like the look and feel of the G5. I think all the phones pretty much look the same and I really don't care that much about it anyone. I don't think anyone is getting laid because their phone is so impressive. I have been wanting a wide angle shooter on a phone for years...awesome! I have always carried spare batteries. I can always go from 10% to 100% in seconds.....also awesome!
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LG g5 is DOA. I'm returning mine. Better competition. The build quality alone isn't very good as that gap between the module and Chassis is frustrating. Moreover, the camera isn't as good as the S7 Edge.
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I've cancelled my g5 order. It getting delayed was definitely meant to be as I've ordered the htc 10 for only £13 more
After seeing the HTC 10 today it's looking very promising. Much better than the G5.
What do you mean by better? The finish and feel might be slicker but that is not my main concern. I will miss the wireless charging on my S3 but the 10 doesn't have that either. The replaceable battery and wide angle shooter are what makes me want the G5. No matter how great the phone looks it ain't much good if the battery craps out on you at 2AM and you are not at home! Zero to 100% in seconds will always be a winner for me. I always carry a spare battery. No matter how strong the battery life of the S7 is it will not be as good in a year! The fee charge cradle, spare battery, and 360 camera cinched it for me (I see the T-mo offer on the 360 cam had been extended so you can still get it).
Did you see the breakdown review on juryrigeverythind.com (I think that is it)? The G5 will be very easy to repair. That makes up for a little sloppiness in built to me, as long as everything works ok from the start. I think they all look like cell phones. If you want to look cool get some new clothes, nobody is looking at your phone and judging you on it!
None of the reviews fault the G5 on performance, it is a beast. Most of the reviewers discount the friends module aspect of the phone because there are not many now and it is questionable what will develop. Still, the idea that I might get surprised with some cool new module feature is a plus for me. Who doesn't get a little bored with the phone after a couple years? I think the G5 is getting unfair treatment by a lot of reviewers.
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The big cross against G5 is the locked (or unlocked custom as seen on Tmobile variant) bootloader. That's a big one for me. I was looking at G5 and gave up on it because of that.
As for battery, I just carry a 10k slab and charge up my phone using that if I am not next to a wall or laptop or pc. Who wants to reboot the phone for a replaceable battery! So, I will likely not use that unique feature of G5 ever.
Going to wait and see what this feels like in hand, coming from 5.5 and up phones I don't want this to feel tiny in my hands.
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I've had my G5 for 2 days now. Build is good- the modular piece seams nicely, feels good in hand. Tested for light bleed- minimal bleed on top and only noticeable in darkened room with test app, very accceptable. I read about someone having a proble with the audio jack- mine is very tight. Someone said they had hissing sound with BT- mine is great with my jawbone and my car unit. Battery time is ok, maybe not great, I tend to be a heavy user. Quick charge is very fast, about 1% per minute. I look forward to receiving the spare battery, unlike previous poster I do not mind rebooting my phone, especially if I can go from 15% ot 100% in 30 seconds! Camera is very good, lover the wide angle. It seems that the metering only has center weight and matrix which disappoints but I may not be understanding the interface, need to find a manual, phone only comes with a quick start guide so I guess I can download from LG. Overall I am very happy. Can't wait to play around with promo 360 camera when it arrives!
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Upgrading from the One M8 -- stick with HTC or move on?

I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?
I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss.
U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.
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I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss. U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
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While I'm not a heavy camera/video user, I'd like to have better hardware. The M8 employs this dual 4MP lens design that, while good for its day, is lagging far behind now. All of those factors are important for me: build quality/materials, system and video speed, audio quality, and user experience. The M8 has a great user experience and generally performs quickly, with really terrific audio quality. The screen looks fine, but next to an HTC 10? It's not as bright and quite as color rich.
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.
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I've not warmed up to these other brands, like ZTE, Huawei, OnePlus. Comparably they've not been on the market for very long. I've read about reliability issues after a couple years of ownership, so getting one of those used is outside my consideration.
Two of my family members have Samsung Galaxy phones, and I can't stand their UI. It's utterly ridiculous how they bury mobile data access control. You should be able to 1) double-finger swipe down, and 2) uncheck mobile data. That's how HTC works. But with Samsung, you've got to swipe, click, swipe, click, swipe, click to get to the mobile data control. They probably did that as a "friend to the carrier" so you'll use up more mobile data because it's too much of a pain to turn it off. Screw that. Of course, you could install a widget for controlling that... but it takes up real estate and it's simply illogical--this should be accessible from the swipe-down menu.
I have to say, I'd looked at the LG V30 and was considering it... until I read LG V30 REVIEW: GROUNDBREAKING PHONE WITH A DEAL-BREAKING FLAW. Screen resolution, clarity, and color rendition is important to me, and the V30 drops the ball. I did look at it compared directly to a couple other phones in a cellular phone store, and I have to agree it's not on par with the competition.
Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one.
Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
Can't really think of any other solid phones that could be a good upgrade over M8 and not too expensive. Maybe something from Sony? I've thought about Xperia XZ Premium for a long time myself - hardware wise it's pretty good and their UI is very simple. The size is what put me off - it's just too big to be comfortable, V30 with half an inch bigger display feels pretty snug in hand.
That said, maybe the smaller XZ or XZ1 might be a better choice.
If not then I guess you could think about U11 - it's definitely not a bad phone, but different than M8. If you could accept it's cons it would be a pretty good choice.
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Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
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No doubt at all. I'm not expecting perfection, only issues that I can live with. The HTC 10 isn't perfect, but without the reported battery issue it would be my choice for now. If I could find a totally checked out excellent condition example for about $150, I'd be happy. I'd even consider $195, for refurbished/like-new with warranty. In my book, $500~$600 for a new phone is too much. $300~$350 is about right. Back when the Evo 3D was still in play, if the battery was faulty all you'd have to do is swap it out. Unfortunately everyone has moved to these embedded batteries. It really sucks. Was a slim case that compelling enough to do it? I'd rather have a phone where half of it is thicker to house the removable battery. Far easier to manage. But, I think the ulterior motive was control. Now cellular phone makers don't have to worry about non-OEM / 3rd party questionable batteries being used in their phones. What they could have done is make intelligent batteries with circuitry required for usage, something a clone battery maker can't copy.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one. Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
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It might have been a production batch issue... you'd have to look at other reviews. I did hear about the Google Pixel 2 having some issues but it looks like they were successfully addressed. And they're more readily apparent and easier to verify than something like a vague battery issue.
The U11 is a very nice phone, but too pricey for me right now. However, the U12 comes out in May. Maybe I'll wait until then for a U11 price drop.
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I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?
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I'm in the same boat as you are. I love my M8, but with some of the new technology out there, and with the M8 still sporting Android 6 (I've tried Oreo - don't really like it), I was a hair away from buying the U11. But I just couldn't see spending $600 for a new phone.
Then I looked at the Moto z2 Force - a great phone with specs similar to the U11. And I can get the Motorola for about $375.00
To me, there is one main "con" for each of these phones:
Moto: Not water or dust resistant (U11 is)
U11: Price is high
Both: No headphone jack
If the Motorola had an IP67 or 68 rating, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
And if the U11 price went down to, say, $400, I'd grab it right away.
To me, those are the two strongest candidates. And the Moto has mods (if that interests you).
I love Sense, and it's able to be added to most phones now, but it's not the same as being built-in.
I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
dhrjbhtt0 said:
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though
dhrjbhtt0 said:
The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though
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That is too bad. How about eBay?
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dhrjbhtt0 said:
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.
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Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.
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The closest are the Chinese retailers(I'm in India) through Aliexpress, as any of the online retailers like Amazon and Flipkart do not sell the M8 anymore and the HTC 10 is priced unreasonably high, priced at 490ish usd.
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I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.
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Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.
cytherian said:
Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.
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I'm in a similar boat as you mate, can't find a legit place to but an m8 or 10 here in South Asia for cheap
PLz tell me if u find someone who does international shipping of either of these two.
Has anyone over here bought any HTC device from aliexpress?
I'm planning on buying an HTC 10 from over there, but don't have any past experiences with any of the sellers over there.
The price seems fine, just north of 250usd.
Any idea anyone might have?
My m8 had a bad battery after all the years of heavy usage, hundreds/countless drops to all kinds of grounds even fell in water a few times.It looks really really bad from the outside,completely full of ditches and scratches and other strange markings, I even managed to "pull/curl" a kind of sharp edge out on a small spot of the aluminum on the back through a drop.But besides that it was/is shutting down between 40-75% everything was working completely fine,so I really didn't want any other phone but an htc after that proof of ruggedness/solidness either.
I also got a dead m9 here that just one day to the other shut off and completely died over time,not even a led is blinking anymore and it's only lifesign is plugged into a PC where it shows up as a Qualcomm service hub, but all that is a different story,just wanted to mention that experience with HTC.
I lived with that m8 then for quite a time and nearly ended up buying another new/refurbished m8/9/10 but then i found the ZTE axon 7 to be my perfect replacement,as it was the only phone with good sounding/loud front facing speakers and an all aluminum body,also I wanted to have a slightly bigger screen and the other advantages of the zte didn't seem bad either.So I bought a used axon for 150€ and even though it has its own faults, like the buttons, I wouldn't change back to the m8 for my daily,not even with a factory new battery.
Hope that wasn't too much to read through
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My advice is to wait a little longer, check out U12 and even pixel 3, maybe oneplus 6 (I am notch hater, but maybe you are not).
I'm thinking of picking up a used M9, just to sort of complete what I think is the perfect trifecta of HTC phones. M7, M8, M9.
Yeah, for camera needs I turn to my V20/V10s, but for aesthetics, I don't think any phone comes close to the M series.
M9 could have been a great phone if they had just used a better sensor and thrown in OIS.
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7 years old, my HTC M8 is finally starting to fail. Dot-view now mal-functions, and I can't upgrade anything else without a significant decrease in speed.
I am genuinely happy with this phone. The 'dot-view' function was groundbreaking for its time, as was the body armour that supported it.
I am unsure whether to consider another phone, or upgrade to the HTC 12

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