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Is there anyway to disable the optical trackpad? as it is always activating on its own
What do you mean "activating on its own"? You mean the phone wakes up when you press the trackpad? Or when you merely touch it? There should be a flashable patch for your ROM that disables trackpad-wake. Search the thread for Virtuous G-Lite.
taob said:
What do you mean "activating on its own"? You mean the phone wakes up when you press the trackpad? Or when you merely touch it? There should be a flashable patch for your ROM that disables trackpad-wake. Search the thread for Virtuous G-Lite.
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He means that it activates and selects things on screen on its own. It happens when strong light beams across it. The trackpad activates as if you've moved your finger over the surface because it is sensitive to the light.
Oh, really? I never heard of that! Now I'll have to try it myself.
taob said:
Oh, really? I never heard of that! Now I'll have to try it myself.
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Try sitting in the passenger seat of the car with the sun somewhere over your shoulder. Flickering sunlight does weird things to the trackpad.
Oh that is just cool. I have an LED flashlight on my key chain that is insane bright and I just shown it on my trackpad and it starting jumping around my home screens.
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Oh that is just cool. I have an LED flashlight on my key chain that is insane bright and I just shown it on my trackpad and it starting jumping around my home screens.
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lol I could get over having trouble seeing it in direct sunlight I just bought a anti glare screen protector but this makes me want to throw my phone out the car window sometimes
What if you cut that anti-glare screen protector to fit over the optical trackpad. Maybe that'll diffuse enough light to stop the sensor from going wack but still sensitive enough for you to still use it with your thumb?
I can't get the effect to happen. The most that happens is the active icon selection on my home screen moves over one icon. No crazy jumping around on mine. Anyone want to trade me for their "defective" phone?
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I can't get the effect to happen. The most that happens is the active icon selection on my home screen moves over one icon. No crazy jumping around on mine. Anyone want to trade me for their "defective" phone?
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My phone ain't defective ... its "magic"
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got the same issue. especially when in the car. the most annoying bit is when i have my sat nav on, and the trackpad plays up, the screen starts moving off course! not helpful when aproaching a roundabout!
have had my desire z for 8 months now, and tried to live with it, but its just too anoying now. so thinking of returning it, but if its a common issue, wondering if they would be able to fix it?
anyone returned theirs to have repaired? did it work?
I don't think it is repairable it is just the trackpad is to sensitive if only there was a way to disable it via software:/
well there are those who say that they dont have the problem, so i guess theoretically, its a fault with many of them. unless they havent used their z in the sun!
i think i'll take it back, as it obviously shouldnt do that. if they cant repair it, or replace it with one that doesnt freak out, i'm gonna change to something else..
Hey all,
I am looking for the best screen protector for my Epic 4G Touch, but with a twist.
A friend of mine got his hands on a Galaxy Nexus, and has made me extremely green with jealousy over how there are no buttons (capacative or not)
So, I was wondering if someone out there knows of a way to hide the capacative buttons, under a screen protector or something, so they still function, but are not seen at all... so maybe a screen protector that is black at the bottom or something??
I am pretty sure this can be done, but I would love some input from the community
thanks!
Only thing I can think of is to turn the lights for the buttons off. I doubt theres a screen protector that has black at the bottom.
I'm sure there is a crafty or ghetto way to color the bottom of a screen protector yourself
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Screen protector with a sharpie marker.
I did it with my sensation red and it looked like the Sensation xl buttons.
leyvatron said:
Screen protector with a sharpie marker.
I did it with my sensation red and it looked like the Sensation xl buttons.
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are you serious
leyvatron said:
Screen protector with a sharpie marker.
I did it with my sensation red and it looked like the Sensation xl buttons.
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Guillo1 said:
are you serious
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Lmao. Because NOBODY would notice Sharpie ink on a phone bezel.
haha the first thing i thought reading the op was 'someone is going to mention sharpie'
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Screen protector with a sharpie marker.
I did it with my sensation red and it looked like the Sensation xl buttons.
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Can we get some pictures of that??
And I contacted GhostArmor, but I haven't heard back from them regarding a black screen protector around the edges.... we will seee!!!
why do you think hiding the cap buttons would be cool?
your phone has button at the bottom, deal with it.
Just turn off the lights in the display settings, they're are good as gone. I mean unless you want to block them out completely with a black sharpie lol
Turn off the lights in settings and get the mirror screen protector, you wont see them anymore.
Funny, I was looking at engadget's review of the nexus this morning and I was thinking to myself, "Wow, those soft buttons look like a deal breaker for me. I'm glad I went with the E4GT"
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Funny, I was looking at engadget's review of the nexus this morning and I was thinking to myself, "Wow, those soft buttons look like a deal breaker for me. I'm glad I went with the E4GT"
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Yeah same here. Hopefully most phones don't start adapting this design in 2012. The onscreen soft buttons take away from the beauty of the screen layout (in my opinion). Seriously, if I'm going to take the time to customize my screen, I don't want these dang soft buttons below ruining the look.
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Turn off the lights in settings and get the mirror screen protector, you wont see them anymore.
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That's a great idea, thanks!
I want my screen to resemble the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus as well. I don't want to see Samsung, and I'd like the capacitive buttons to disappear when not in use. I don't have the extra cash to order right now, but...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Epi...ccessories&hash=item1c1f8c3939#ht_4242wt_1378
I was thinking the above, in combination with a regular protect and cut and match the two. If you try this before I do, post results!
For the right price someone will make your half tinted half not screen protector. Try decalgirl.
This thread still makes no sense to me. Sell the epic and upgrade. Although the nexus isn't an upgrade other than ics. The gs2 has a better display and same hardware for the most part.
eao1991 said:
Yeah same here. Hopefully most phones don't start adapting this design in 2012. The onscreen soft buttons take away from the beauty of the screen layout (in my opinion). Seriously, if I'm going to take the time to customize my screen, I don't want these dang soft buttons below ruining the look.
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Google has already said that all of the new phones that come with ICS will no longer have physical buttons.
This is crazyyyy! Why did they put the power button on the other side of the volume button? I'm finding myself constantly turning the volume down when i try and turn the screen of because your hand naturally positions your fingers there to get some leverage!
Would have been much better along the top edge IMO
Agree should have put it on top like the nexus one and desire
The phone is too long to have the power button on top. It's also too thin at the top to have a button there, but the power button location is mostly because of the phone's size.
I did this once now I dint its all about how you hold the phone and now I don't press any volume keys when hitting the power button
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You'll get used to it. It's not better or worse than a button on the top, just different, especially when you come from another phone. Give it a week or two and this becomes a none-issue.
As said above
This had been standard design for Samsung Android phones since the GS1
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gokpog said:
You'll get used to it. It's not better or worse than a button on the top, just different, especially when you come from another phone. Give it a week or two and this becomes a none-issue.
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Was a none issue on like day one for me
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Why not?
The Nexus S has the same position
So, I am happy hehehe ...
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This is crazyyyy! Why did they put the power button on the other side of the volume button? I'm finding myself constantly turning the volume down when i try and turn the screen of because your hand naturally positions your fingers there to get some leverage!
Would have been much better along the top edge IMO
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This is crazyyyy! Why did they put the power button on the other side of the volume button? I'm finding myself constantly turning the volume down when i try and turn the screen of because your hand naturally positions your fingers there to get some leverage!
Would have been much better along the top edge IMO
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I have to agree that the current location is plain stupid.
The number of times I've hit it when either using the volume buttons or holding my phone playing a game is too many to count over the last week.
Poor industrial design that one.
lol coming from an iphone , this is really the only thing that bothers me.
I actually prefer it to the unthought out position that HTC choose for their massive smartphones ... you'll get used to it and you'll love it
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liltbrockie said:
This is crazyyyy! Why did they put the power button on the other side of the volume button? I'm finding myself constantly turning the volume down when i try and turn the screen of because your hand naturally positions your fingers there to get some leverage!
Would have been much better along the top edge IMO
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Who/what is crazy here?? Come on, grow up! Life is full of changes and opportunities. If you're this upset about a powerbutton on a different place than you are used to, then go live in a cave and don't move.
aimetti said:
lol coming from an iphone , this is really the only thing that bothers me.
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yeah i still go for the home button like on my iPhone, but i've only had my Nexus 4 days..
I like the power button being on the side much better. Especially for these bigger devices. It would be awkward to unlock with one hand if it was on top. I don't know maybe I'm a bit biased because I have owned the gs1 and gs2. Either way I have never had an issue with the button placement before.
I like it where it is, on the side. Previously I have had some HTC phones, so I've experienced both. In my opinion, it's way easier and faster to turn the screen on/off. And I've never had a problem with it.
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I like it where it is, on the side. Previously I have had some HTC phones, so I've experienced both. In my opinion, it's way easier and faster to turn the screen on/off. And I've never had a problem with it.
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Same with me. I've also had 2 previous HTC devices, but I prefer the power button on the side now.
The thing that really tripped me up is the volume being on the opposite side. That messed me up more than the power button location.
Just a guess, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the screenshot feature. Having buttons on the opposite sides allows you to just squeeze the phone in the position you're probably already holding it in.
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Just a guess, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the screenshot feature. Having buttons on the opposite sides allows you to just squeeze the phone in the position you're probably already holding it in.
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The screenshot feature came long after the side button placement on phones. The button combination for it was likely created for the reason you said though. Well that and they're pretty limited in what combinations they can do when there aren't many buttons.
I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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if they remove the buttons how will you operate it? It does not have capacitive buttons like the previous one, they were removed.
nugzo said:
if they remove the buttons how will you operate it? It does not have capacitive buttons like the previous one, they were removed.
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LMT. Usually one of the first apps I install, once we get root.
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I just couldn't buy this phone after seeing all that wasted screen space I am so sad
wow I"m suprised by the hate for the soft keys. They were the big reason I upgraded from the M7.
meest said:
wow I"m suprised by the hate for the soft keys. They were the big reason I upgraded from the M7.
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It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
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It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
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the thing you are missing here is... that area is not wasted screen space. it was never screen space, it isnt the screen down there. Yes it is black and looks like the screen but the screen ends right below the on screen buttons, above the HTC logo. If they painted it silver would that make you happy? You've posted 20 times about how mad you are and that this phone is a disaster etc... Why? it is by no means a disaster and your mis understanding of the display is causing you grief. Just buy the phone and enjoy it. There is no wasted screen space, that isnt a screen down there, its just a black bezel.
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I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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You can't completely remove them, the reasons are obvious but you could hide them while you're not using them... This will probably be implemented in some ROMs
Nugzo, that's nice of you to try and stick up for HTC. How come on the beautiful HTC one there is not bezel on the bottom? The truth is you don't know why so don't try and defend. I own many phones and enjoy them. Please don't let my opinion make you come up with fake explanations. Relax and enjoy your phone
FYI... IT IS completely wasted valuable screen real estate
There are very simply edits to framework-res that can change the navbar height. Stock height is 48dpi. 42 dpi on most devices is about as short as you want to go and have them still function. Set it to zero to remove it for that matter. Just make sure you have some other way to control your device. I know there are apps to give you that control.
Of course this will require root at the very least.
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the thing you are missing here is... that area is not wasted screen space. it was never screen space, it isnt the screen down there. Yes it is black and looks like the screen but the screen ends right below the on screen buttons, above the HTC logo. If they painted it silver would that make you happy? You've posted 20 times about how mad you are and that this phone is a disaster etc... Why? it is by no means a disaster and your mis understanding of the display is causing you grief. Just buy the phone and enjoy it. There is no wasted screen space, that isnt a screen down there, its just a black bezel.
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For me it's disappointing that they kept the logo at the bottom. If they were going to go with on screen buttons and all that's great but they should have removed that part.
Perhaps as development takes off one of the items that can be done is to remove the dock and shift the buttons down. I don't use the dock much and could live without it.
I am waiting a bit to buy mine just to see where the developer community takes this device. I am sure I am a buyer in a month or two but just not impressed enough to run out and buy day 1, week 1, month 1.
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you sound like a spoiled brat
Who cares about the buttons. I'm sure they had a good reason, maybe space limitations, maybe they got on the band wagon, I don't know but...
We finally have a Micro SDXC slot. So go buy an S4 or better yet wait for the S5 which is going to be great according to all their marketing hype.
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Icyman said:
Who cares about the buttons. I'm sure they had a good reason, maybe space limitations, maybe they got on the band wagon, I don't know but...
We finally have a Micro SDXC slot. So go buy an S4 or better yet wait for the S5 which is going to be great according to all their marketing hype.
Regards,
GFY
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That's good to know you are so happy with the micro SD card slot and you are making excuses as to why there is so much wasted space. You are easy to please. Enjoy!
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It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
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The space wasn't put there for capacitive buttons, it was put there because there is hardware sitting there inside the phone. Due to the hardware that's there, they weren't able to put a capacitive strip there, which is why the buttons have been moved to on-screen buttons. Of course, if you really wanted the capacitive buttons, they could've given you that, but then increased the bezel size and therefore, the entire phone.
I initially didn't like the setup either, but I've gotten over it and it hasn't hindered my enjoyment of the phone in any way.
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Nugzo, that's nice of you to try and stick up for HTC. How come on the beautiful HTC one there is not bezel on the bottom? The truth is you don't know why so don't try and defend. I own many phones and enjoy them. Please don't let my opinion make you come up with fake explanations. Relax and enjoy your phone
FYI... IT IS completely wasted valuable screen real estate
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Its not fake dude lol. there is a schematic of the phone in another thread, the digitizer is where the black HTC strip and logo is. In order to change that design, they would have to lose the front facing speakers. and again it is not wasted screen real estate, it isnt a screen. it is used for the digitizer. In order for it to be wasted screen real estate, it would have to be part of the screen, It is not. maybe you can consider it wasted front panel real estate, but not screen, because it isnt the screen there.
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maybe you can consider it wasted front panel real estate, but not screen, because it isnt the screen there.
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I think this is what he, and several others, are upset about. The M8 has a lower screen-to-surface area ratio than something like the LG G2. I'm sure the area under the logo bar is being used for electronics, but would've been nice to see this area reduced because it is not functional space for the user like the screen or speakers. The M7 made use of this space by incorporating capacitive buttons to leave the screen more free.
On the other side of things, I still don't l don't like giving up any real estate on my screen. However, there's a relatively easy fix that I use on my Nexus 7: GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys. It makes the screen completely clear of the soft keys during normal use, but you just need to swipe up from the bottom to get them back in any app. You can even customize the area that you swipe up from (position, size, etc...).
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Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
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Is the bezel as noticeable after using the phone a few days?
I personally hate the wasted real estate worst feature about the phone. I'm a massive HTC fan but it was a mistake to waste space with just logo.
Still prefer this over the other phones the only exception could be Xperia z2 just have to wait and see.
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I don't notice mine at all
riz157 said:
I personally hate the wasted real estate worst feature about the phone. I'm a massive HTC fan but it was a mistake to waste space with just logo.
Still prefer this over the other phones the only exception could be Xperia z2 just have to wait and see.
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Like has been said in several threads, including this one, there is HARDWARE under the strip... Its not "wasted".
Gmd sort of works but u have to manually toggle it on and off after each reboot
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Hallo everybody,
as I've been on one of then get a new Pre-Briefing sessionsnI had the chance to get a first Hands-On impression of the all new HTC U12+. This I decided to share it with you and allow for questions regarding the device. I'm well willing to answer them as good as possible. To get the following right, I'm competing the U12+ to my current device, which is the U11.
HTC simply makes everything better with the new flagship! You only have to hold it in your hands once, and you won't want to put it away, let alone miss it. I'm just saying "A phone that is more than the sum of its specs!" A dreamlike piece of technology! The best in advance in my eyes:
The device has no notch!
The metal frame that connects the front and back immediately gave me nostalgic memories of the HTC One M9 - especially the 0.5 mm small edge that extends around the front of the device and the U12+ (if you publish it before, then of course replace it with product!) a very good and great grip.
Also the separate Volume-Up/Down buttons remind me of the HTC One M9, which is one of the big special features of the HTC U12+, because the buttons are no longer mechanical buttons, but only digital! And not only here, but also at Edge Sense there are great developments!
Previously "only" the short and long press on Edge Sense, now Double Tap is added to the frame. A gesture that many people wished for as the next step in their development - me too!
In addition, Edge Sense 2.0 becomes smarter! Let's take the Edge Launcher as an example. Here Edge Sense recognizes on which side of the device I execute the double tap, and shows it on this side as well. HTC realizes an automated right/left-handed control, which I find extremely brilliant - brilliant U just .
Also ingenious: the HTC U12+ recognizes that you are holding it in your hand and locks the screen's autorotation if desired. Practical for me as a frequent flyer, because you won't believe how often the screen rotates when scanning the QR code on the online ticket, and the code is therefore not recognized. Others like to stall their smartphone on the train to show you a short YouTube video, and are annoyed when the video is minimized due to the screen rotation. Such annoyances are also a thing of the past with the HTC U12+.
Perhaps a few words about the technique. HTC sets the battery to 3500 mAh, with a nominal power of 3420mAh. Thanks to the economical Snapdragon 845 SoC, again manufactured in 10 nm technology, which is probably even more modest than its predecessor, it should certainly meet the daily energy requirements. This is also shown by the HTC U11, which with an insignificantly smaller display and 3000 mAh also brings a power user like me well through the day.
I have a clear one: I must have! (*and already pre-ordered the Translucent Blue Edition)
Why, you ask?! It's simple: it's - in my opinion - technically once again the best high-end smartphone of the year currently on the market, and features some great innovations and technological advances that make the purchase extraordinarily worthwhile. These include innovations in the area of Edge Sense 2.0, a profound integration of voice and Google functionalities - also in own apps - such as the camera and the new integration of Amazon Alexa.
Any idea how you'd power off the device if the system freezes? Normally I'd hold down the power button or remove the battery, but there's technically no power BUTTON and obviously no removable battery. How do you reboot the phone if the "hardware keys" don't respond?
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Any idea how you'd power off the device if the system freezes? Normally I'd hold down the power button or remove the battery, but there's technically no power BUTTON and obviously no removable battery. How do you reboot the phone if the "hardware keys" don't respond?
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It's a touch sensitive button that translates commands just like a mechanical button would translate such commands within the U11. As a matter of fact it is pressure sensitive in order to make possible it always reacts to your commands.
As I wrote on another threat. I'm really impressed with metal frame with no weak spots because no physical buttons. After all, I really like this new phone!
BTW haptic feedback is here also while phone is discharged.
hitmanhunt said:
As I wrote on another threat. I'm really impressed with metal frame with no weak spots because no physical buttons. After all, I really like this new phone!
BTW haptic feedback is here also while phone is discharged.
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As far as I tested it, there is a slight haptic feedback even though the phone is off, when powering it up. Thus I'd guess the power manager takes care that there'll always be enough juice left in the battery to give us such a feedback. By the way you can deactivte this feedback in settings completely, once you got familiar to the new digital buttons.
Did you try the face unlock and the fingerprint scanner? Any delay? As you own the HTC u11, what about HTCs software updates? Thank you!
Impressed...only thing I would like out of them is a OLED display. Otherwise, will probably get rid of my bulky Pixel 2 XL and switch to this phone. Bootloader Unlocking, rooting/modding/Dev support have always been fantastic with HTC phones...and I can use it on Verizon!!
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Did you try the face unlock and the fingerprint scanner? Any delay? As you own the HTC u11, what about HTCs software updates? Thank you!
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Yes I did. Face Unlock needs a little delay as they recognize the depths of your face and eyes to make it more secure and to make sure one can't trick it with a picture of yours. Fingerprint is really fast. Didn't recognize any delay when trying it out. Nearly on pat with the brilliant technology of Huawei's fingerprint scanner I'd say.
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Impressed...only thing I would like out of them is a OLED display. Otherwise, will probably get rid of my bulky Pixel 2 XL and switch to this phone. Bootloader Unlocking, rooting/modding/Dev support have always been fantastic with HTC phones...and I can use it on Verizon!!
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Well that's an arguable one. For me personally I'll always prefer an LCD over an OLED, as OLED stolill suffers of burn it's and the LEDs are getting dimmer in time, due to manufacturers running them to bright for such an organic material.
in fact HTC switched back from Gorilla.Glass 5 to Gorilla Glass 3 which is, on the one hand much sturdier, and on the other hand allows for more brightness of the display. Held the Pixel 2XL once and holding my U11 currently. Both are bulkier in hand, as HTC got ergonomics on the U12+ right in any way.
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Really Corning Gorilla Glass 3? As I saw pre-production piece, I can't check it well. I see htc.com has no informations about version of GG. Interesting! Anyway good to know!
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Really Corning Gorilla Glass 3? As I saw pre-production piece, I can't check it well. I see htc.com has no informations about version of GG. Interesting! Anyway good to know!
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HTC went for a custom Corning Gorilla Glass solution on the front and back, noting that the company wanted a harder compound than Gorilla Glass 5. That means the final glass is somewhere in between Gorilla Glass 3 and 5. This harder glass should mean fewer scratches, too, and the glass choice should be useful for LTE reception.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/htc-u12-plus-colors-868077/
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Well that's an arguable one. For me personally I'll always prefer an LCD over an OLED, as OLED stolill suffers of burn it's and the LEDs are getting dimmer in time, due to manufacturers running them to bright for such an organic material.
in fact HTC switched back from Gorilla.Glass 5 to Gorilla Glass 3 which is, on the one hand much sturdier, and on the other hand allows for more brightness of the display. Held the Pixel 2XL once and holding my U11 currently. Both are bulkier in hand, as HTC got ergonomics on the U12+ right in any way.
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Features like AOD I really like, I know there are apps like Glance Plus, but they put little drain on the battery and I find useful with OLED. But I've also used other apps to do the same thing with LED displays on the HTC/LCD displays in the past, so I can live without OLED/AOD and have ways to give notifications/info without a pre-cooked option in a Rom. I've had my Pixel 2 XL for 3 months now, AOD always in use, there is no burn-in....Google fixed these issues assuming you don't have it in Torch mode always and activity randomly on the display. Putting it face down turns it off as well as a preventive measure at night. OLED are better in every way, except a possible burn in issue when it comes to color/black reproduction.
Anyway, you say you have held the U12+ and feels better in the hand compared to the Pixel 2 XL? By the thinner top/bottom and sides, and with the right case...that makes sense. This is what I loved about my OP 5T...but I switched to verizon...and now I'm stuck with limited options for Android and flagship level phones that allow a modding experience. This is just another option now on the market for VZW users.
Thanks
So... How do you enter the bootloader menu or download mode.
Can you still hold pwr+vol.dwn for download mode and pwr+vol.dwn+vol.up for bootloader?
Myrmeko said:
So... How do you enter the bootloader menu or download mode.
Can you still hold pwr+vol.dwn for download mode and pwr+vol.dwn+vol.up for bootloader?
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Still the same way as always. Mechanical buttons convert the pressure into digital signals as well, so the chip knows what to do since a long time. Only difference now: no translator needed any longer.
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Do we know if wifi calling works on verizon yet? I know with the U11 it was not supported on verizon specifically.
evilevn said:
Do we know if wifi calling works on verizon yet? I know with the U11 it was not supported on verizon specifically.
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Sorry man can't tell you as I'm from Germany and only had chance to test the EMEA variant right here.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
It's a touch sensitive button that translates commands just like a mechanical button would translate such commands within the U11. As a matter of fact it is pressure sensitive in order to make possible it always reacts to your commands.
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I was actually going to make an entire thread on these "buttons" until I saw your post. I was going to pull the trigger on buying the U12+ as soon as the phone was available for pre-order, ever since I saw the leaked spec sheet. The spec sheet makes this seem like a dream phone!
However my feelings changed when I saw these "buttons" were not really buttons, only touch sensitive bumps. My immediate concern was how awkward these "buttons" would feel. Then I grew even a bigger concern of how rebooting will work if it's frozen.
You say it will work when the OS frozen, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Think about it. The touch screen of phones does not work when phone is frozen. So why would touch buttons be any different? I imagine some where in the phone there has to be software that says "hey we been touched, send the signal to the OS to reboot."
For example laptops have completely separate software for the BIOS on a separate drive, so it still functions if the OS freezes. I'd imagine the U12+ "buttons" would have to be setup internally kind of like BIOS on a computer to work when the phone is frozen. It would need to be separate software to ensure it works when the main software is frozen.
So I am sorry but I think we need to get this concern addressed by an HTC engineer or at least an HTC representative. I have already emailed HTC about this issue but still waiting to hear back.
With that in mind I would like to know. How do the "buttons" feel? Isn't it awkward trying to push in something that doesn't move? Also what's the haptic feedback like? Does it vibrate the entire phone equally, or vibrate just that area near the button? How long did you have with the phone to play around with those "buttons?"
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However my feelings changed when I saw these "buttons" were not really buttons, only touch sensitive bumps. My immediate concern was how awkward these "buttons" would feel. Then I grew even a bigger concern of how rebooting will work if it's frozen.
You say it will work when the OS frozen, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Think about it. The touch screen of phones does not work when phone is frozen. So why would touch buttons be any different? I imagine some where in the phone there has to be software that says "hey we been touched, send the signal to the OS to reboot."
For example laptops have completely separate software for the BIOS on a separate drive, so it still functions if the OS freezes. I'd imagine the U12+ "buttons" would have to be setup internally kind of like BIOS on a computer to work when the phone is frozen. It would need to be separate software to ensure it works when the main software is frozen.
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With that in mind I would like to know. How do the "buttons" feel? Isn't it awkward trying to push in something that doesn't move? Also what's the haptic feedback like? Does it vibrate the entire phone equally, or vibrate just that area near the button? How long did you have with the phone to play around with those "buttons?"
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OK first things first. Those buttons got a separate circuitry as they always had, to make them work even thought the system is frozen.
There is a firmware layer - as its Linux based an separate partition actually - for the buttons. As you might find out if reading up on Linux based systems the firmware layers are a little bit different from the system, and connects the aboot/download mode to the OS. This is the exact same way its working on any laptop running Linux, macOS, or Windows.
So technically nothing to worry.
If it cames to the feel, let me say the following. If you "press" the "buttons", the phone gives a short buzz from the vibration motor as a feedback. You have to get accustomed to that, but can deactivate the haptic feedback completely in settings.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
OK first things first. Those buttons got a separate circuitry as they always had, to make them work even thought the system is frozen.
There is a firmware layer - as its Linux based an separate partition actually - for the buttons. As you might find out if reading up on Linux based systems the firmware layers are a little bit different from the system, and connects the aboot/download mode to the OS. This is the exact same way its working on any laptop running Linux, macOS, or Windows.
So technically nothing to worry.
If it cames to the feel, let me say the following. If you "press" the "buttons", the phone gives a short buzz from the vibration motor as a feedback. You have to get accustomed to that, but can deactivate the haptic feedback completely in settings.
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Perfect timing! I was just coming to update my post because I found out that Apple changed their iPhone home button to only be touch starting in the 7, also in the 8. Interesting I never knew that as a Android user.
Apples soft reset was always home and power buttons held together. But when they changed the home button to be touch only, then they changed the soft reset to be home and volume down buttons. If touch button will work for resetting a frozen phone then why did Apple change theirs when they went to a touch haptic button?
I understand what firmware, and separate partions, and all that stuff is. Except based off what I just found out Apple did with the 7 and 8 I'm still sleptical. Still waiting for HTCs response to my email about this. No offense, I just want their confirmation on this particular issue since no manufacturer has ever done this before with these buttons.
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Apples soft reset was always home and power buttons held together. But when they changed the home button to be touch only, then they changed the soft reset to be home and volume down buttons. If touch button will work for resetting a frozen phone then why did Apple change theirs when they went to a touch haptic button?
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Maybe they just didn't want it to work the old way, or the iOS structure didn't allow for the same to work as on Android. Remember that iOS uses force touch as well and integrated it in a completely different way than Android did. I never understood Apple as there are many thing as well in iOS don't making any sense in his they've been implemented and are working nowadays.
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I was really hoping they would use oled screen.. but still lcd