Hi everyone , how are y'all doing ?
I have galaxy s4 i9500 . it lags and it's not fast , so I wanna change it but I have some questions .
I've taken a look at all the threads in this department . I found out that the battery is impressive and the camera is so good that you can take beautiful pictures by this small phone . That has amazed me because this phone is small and good and that's what I was looking for . On the other hand , I have noticed that there is alot of problems especially after updating to kit kat such as the flash problem , the speaker voice problem .
I don't really know if I should buy this phone or not .
If you help me , I will really appreciate it but please let me know If you have formated your phone after updating or not because the formating will resolve alot of problems .
last question is : What do you think about the performance ? is it powerful ?
thank you so much
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I know this has nothing to do with your question, but how patiance would you be to wait for a next phone?
It's just a suggestion, but if you are worried about the Z1C ( I'm on the same boat ) the specs of the Xperia Z2 Compact hava just leaked. Everything is still imprecise and it could be 4 months from now or much much more than this for them to release. Just sharing
I came from the Galaxy S3. I only miss the screen size. My issue with the S3 was the phone book didn't load instantly. Also some lags after ending calls. Now I'm using the Sony and everything's "instant" like it's really supposed to be in any phone - the phone book and calls to be precise.
I am using Z1C at the moment. I wanted Z2 or SGS5 but I must say Z1S rocks. A little cheaper than other two... But hardware is almost the same, screen size is smaller but for me size iz perfect. And it is very fast, great battery life and great photos. Must have phone
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modiko said:
Hi everyone , how are y'all doing ?
I have galaxy s4 i9500 . it lags and it's not fast , so I wanna change it but I have some questions .
I've taken a look at all the threads in this department . I found out that the battery is impressive and the camera is so good that you can take beautiful pictures by this small phone . That has amazed me because this phone is small and good and that's what I was looking for . On the other hand , I have noticed that there is alot of problems especially after updating to kit kat such as the flash problem , the speaker voice problem .
I don't really know if I should buy this phone or not .
If you help me , I will really appreciate it but please let me know If you have formated your phone after updating or not because the formating will resolve alot of problems .
last question is : What do you think about the performance ? is it powerful ?
thank you so much
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Hi,
I came from Google Nexus 4 rooted and with customised ROM. Apart from the slightly bigger screen size and cooler colours (some prefer warmer colours which this Z1 compact does show, to me), there's nothing much else that I missed. This Xperia compact handles better using one hand and the screen is sharper and more vibrant. It's very snappy, menu navigation is smooth and swift, so far no noticable lag from the few days that I used it. I also rooted successfully using the guide, no worries. I did a total factory reset/wipe before I flash the zips after rooting. Touch wood, have not experienced sound issues. And that camera, seems like the G lens is quite sharp, no serious corner lens distortions like some reviews mentioned. It's way better than that LG phone. Colours are good. You are right! I'm at more than 4 hours screen time, which is impossible for Nexus 4.
throne64 said:
I know this has nothing to do with your question, but how patiance would you be to wait for a next phone?
It's just a suggestion, but if you are worried about the Z1C ( I'm on the same boat ) the specs of the Xperia Z2 Compact hava just leaked. Everything is still imprecise and it could be 4 months from now or much much more than this for them to release. Just sharing
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I actually can't wait for 4 months because I'm traveling to the US in 3 months and I wanna take a phone with me . As we all know , there is no Sony in the United States .
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AnDroiD178 said:
Hi,
I came from Google Nexus 4 rooted and with customised ROM. Apart from the slightly bigger screen size and cooler colours (some prefer warmer colours which this Z1 compact does show, to me), there's nothing much else that I missed. This Xperia compact handles better using one hand and the screen is sharper and more vibrant. It's very snappy, menu navigation is smooth and swift, so far no noticable lag from the few days that I used it. I also rooted successfully using the guide, no worries. I did a total factory reset/wipe before I flash the zips after rooting. Touch wood, have not experienced sound issues. And that camera, seems like the G lens is quite sharp, no serious corner lens distortions like some reviews mentioned. It's way better than that LG phone. Colours are good. You are right! I'm at more than 4 hours screen time, which is impossible for Nexus 4.
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what do you think about the flash light ? does it have any problems ?
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No problems in any flash pics here.
modiko said:
what do you think about the flash light ? does it have any problems ?
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I tried taking some 'normal' flash pictures and have not seen those flash bleed issues, if that's what you mean? I didn't deliberately flash into a blank sky or in total darkness to try and re-create people's issues.
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hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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Radixtrator said:
1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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thanks for your reply
i have seen xperia t although it has 720p screen and high ppi it looks even worse that my current phone(xperia sola)
which samsung phone do you suggest?
HunainKhalid said:
hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
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1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
Felimenta97 said:
1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
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+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
HunainKhalid said:
+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
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Not aware of that. My images look good. no tint issues.
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Well said :thumbup:
Sony's UI is awesome and better than TouchWiz.
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A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
leine0104 said:
A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
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:thumbup: thanks for the reply
Radixtrator said:
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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xperia z here costs same as galaxy s4 (near about 650$) and xperia t price is the same as xperia s but the screen of xperia t is really worse
will go for xperia s
thanks for the reply
Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
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Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
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+1 thanks
i know the screens of xperia t and s are same both 720p but dont know why when i saw the xperia t the only thing that disappointed me was its screen it was not good at all even worse than my previous phone (xperia sola)
yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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+1 thanks for the reply
you are right both the phones xperia s and xperia ion uses LED-backlit LCD while the xperia t and xperia tl uses TFT capacitive touchscreen
i think thats the reson.(all the phones have 720p display)
I am currently using Galaxy Note N7000, and want to change my phone. SO far I have seen in shop xperia ZL seems fine.
I also have in my mind iPhone 5, Xperia Z and lastly galaxy s4 -
My priority is something like this - off course phone, msg , notes, calender
*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
*** Music
*** Design
*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
Do you think xperia ZL will be a good phone for me for next 2 years ?
I havent had a phone for 2 years so far. But I don´t see why the ZL would be a bad choise.
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*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
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Not an expert in this area, but with the lastest firmware update i gotta say i love the camera, not using any of the features, just standard shots in average situations.
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*** Music
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Kind of dissapointed here, was expecting more from Sony, the audio DAC is integrated in the Qualcomm, it´s not a Sony one, my Xperia ARC used to sound better.
I´m planning to upgrade my current earphones (Senheiser CX300-II) to see if i can somehow find a more confortable sound for me.
But remember, sound is a very unique experience, every user has a different way, a differente taste for sound, so what i don´t consider excelent might be gud enough for you.
Best way, grab your earphones/headphones, go a to a local store and try them on the ZL.
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*** Design
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Best smartphone in the market for me.Period.
I absolutely love the design, in 2-3 days time it seems so small and thin on your hand...but you have a 5" inch full hd screen.
Beautiful.
I was kind of hesitating with the on screen buttons, i used a mod to reduce the size (u can even make them transparent), now i would find very hard to use a smartphone with hard buttons.
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*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
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Haven´t use it yet, but did in previous Xperia models, so i guess u shouldn´t have a problem, the option is there, just checked.
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*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
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I always have 3G on, auto-sync off, i get those 12hrs but i´m not an intense user.
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****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
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Well, that´s hard these days, i think the ZL has some weak points, it´s not perfect, and once i find the perfect phone then i´ll stick with it for a long period of time, but surely it´s a lasting phone, everything u need is there, sure there are those minor things u would like to be better (sound quality with earphones for me).
desh_iit said:
I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
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Regarding this, there are a few features i love from ZL, the Car Mode, the Remote Control app (u can control every single tv, music player or whatever electronic equipment with remote control) and the Small Apps (apps u can bring to the screen, small sized, such as navigator, calculator, phone, notes, camera...)
The Galaxy S4 is a hell of a phone, don´t like all the Samsung bloatware, but indeed a very nice choice as well.
Now it´s up to you considering your needs, taste and priorities.
Hi there,
Zl is a good phone, in terms of what u hv stated. Im not too sure bout the camera tho, heard so much complain bout it. But its fine for me. Software, well its android and u can download tons of it or u can just leave it alone.
Ip5 is a good choice too. As i was never a fan of apple, but particularly ip5 really capture my eyes.
Choose wisely
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Thank you all for the replies (I already did ) ... I was doing some research ...the camera is samples are quite good I found but best camera is in iPhone, I am not fan of any mobile OS but I like the simplicity in iPhone camera/other app (iOS 7 also looks promising).
But Android is also quite nice with lots of features , I love them all.
Anyways thank you guys
The camera in ZL is not very good.
Otherwise, it's perfect.
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Hi, I'm a Xperia S owner, I'm starting look for a replacement.
Is Xperia ZL a good choice?
I want a quad-core Android, that will be updated to Android 4.3 and 5.0.
I'm from Brazil, here we don't have officially (= no warranty) Xperia Z, Xperia ZR and HTC One.
I can easily find Galaxy S4, Nexus 4 and Xperia ZL.
It's important to say, LTE here is running at 2600 in the next two years also at 700.
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Yeah its a good choice but xperia zl is launched under name xperia zq there in brazil...so y dnt give a hands on..that good luck
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Thank you all for your reply ..finally I picked up iPhone 5 ..I am quite happy with it's simplicity , image quality and off course music with Bose "-)
Been a long time apple user ..since the original iphone in 2007. had every version of it. Got bored of ios and switched to Galaxy s3 last year and been quite happy so far. Last week i traded the S3 for Sony Xperia ZL..and man..i love this hardware and the version of android..
The sony launcher is by far the best one i've seen compared to the touchwiz and others..I used to have so many launchers and widgets on my S3 whereas i have no launchers and widgets on ZL.. The built in has all the features i need,,
Got the iphone 5S for the wife..but the display on ZL is quite something..camera is great. Battery life is reasonable (compared to my old S3) and the standard android customization is very handy..
Don't think i'll ever go back to ios or other android devices for a while.
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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melquisedec said:
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
I am waiting the update 4.3. Preying God mine fixed.
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TheTofu said:
I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
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well good to hear that, but almost all problems that people have they all uses custom roms.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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well what I say is what I read on the web.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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i agree - i love the stock rom as well. I'm with bell in canada. My android version says 4.2.2 build number is 10.3.A.0.423
No updates according to update centre..is the latest .67 udpate not available to bell customers?
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
On latest Stock rom and 0 problems with this wonderful device. It's high end and a pleasure to use it.
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scifan said:
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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I have no idea why it wouldn't be available via OTA.
As far as how to flash... search under the development forum for the ZL for Flashtool. There's also a thread that shows all of the different "rom" versions... I'd look there as well...
I am also super lucky with my ZL. Latest stock firmware and it is my first Android phone, where I don't feel the need for having root access...
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
mrsatan said:
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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Do it. The SP is a nice phone, but the ZL is leagues better in every way. You wont believe how small it really is until you hold it.
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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themanspirit said:
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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I've had the ZL for about a week now and I am pretty impressed with it. The size of the phone considering the screen size is amazing. It is a solid feeling phone and the red one I bought looks great. The battery life isn't too great compared to SP but that is to be expected. I downclocked it a bit so it does better and doesnt get as hot. The screen is miles better than the SP and the extra internal memory is nice. I did like the fact that the SP didn't have the stupid shatterproof sheet on it and it was advertised as gorilla glass. I also wish the IR blaster was on the top so I could hold it like a remote. I would have taken having the charging pins instead of the IR blaster. Still it is a good phone and probably the best designed five inch phone ever. I would have waited and gotten the Z1 compact but it's just too small for me now. 4.6 is perfect but 5 inch is great if the size is that of the ZL.
The vibration on the ZL is really weird compared to the SP. Its very strong, not sure if that is bad or good. The camera is soooo much better though.
Glad to read you are enjoying ZL.
Having sent mine in for RMA Support last month.
And since, been using first C6603, followed by now C5303.
Its highlighted to me just how superior the ZL is to these two more popular and widely available models.
IMHO Sony made a major mistake not to release the ZL in the same markets globally as Z.
As for the ZL's very strong vibration.
Yes, it is far stronger than both Z and SP.
That's been my experience too.
I don't doubt you are also enjoying the ZL's far superior outdoor visibility too.
As the Z, and the SP, displays are really mediocre by comparison when used outdoors in daylight.
I sure do miss ZL's superior loudspeaker performance too.
Particularly when using Navigation incar, or hearing it ring when you are in noisy environments.
So looking forward to the return of my ZL.
And seeing if Sony will release a true successor to the compact, limited market release, ZL.
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hey all im new here and this is my first ever post in xda
i have a sony xperia l and thinking to upgrade for a phone with great specs and display so im confused between lg g2 and the note 3 neo but i like the s pen and bigger screen without on screen buttons more.....
would u plz tell me about any problems in this note 3 neo or should i go for the g2 ? thx in advance
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hey all im new here and this is my first ever post in xda
i have a sony xperia l and thinking to upgrade for a phone with great specs and display so im confused between lg g2 and the note 3 neo but i like the s pen and bigger screen without on screen buttons more.....
would u plz tell me about any problems in this note 3 neo or should i go for the g2 ? thx in advance
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First of all since you are new here.. I suggest u go through the xda rules so that u avoid posting in the wrong section..
Now coming to ur question, I was also in the same situation as ure.. but finally I chose N3 Neo over the G2, I love the extra screen estate, S-Pen features and I feel this device has better battery life than the G2..
Coming to G2 you'll get a slightly better processor and the Full HD screen, if these are necessary for u then choose the G2.. it also has pretty good developer support (custom roms & kernels)..
But it all really depends on u and ur preferences.. part of the reason I let go of the G2 is cos I absolutely loathe LG boxy UI! But that's my opinion..
Also the price factor comes into play, G2(32gb) costs 120$ more out here in my country..
And then also comes the secondary things that do matter to me.. Having a SD card slot is a must for me & removable battery is also useful, also I prefer Amoled screens over LCDs!
So think about it buy wisely!
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First of all since you are new here.. I suggest u go through the xda rules so that u avoid posting in the wrong section..
Now coming to ur question, I was also in the same situation as ure.. but finally I chose N3 Neo over the G2, I love the extra screen estate, S-Pen features and I feel this device has better battery life than the G2..
Coming to G2 you'll get a slightly better processor and the Full HD screen, if these are necessary for u then choose the G2.. it also has pretty good developer support (custom roms & kernels)..
But it all really depends on u and ur preferences.. part of the reason I let go of the G2 is cos I absolutely loathe LG boxy UI! But that's my opinion..
Also the price factor comes into play, G2(32gb) costs 120$ more out here in my country..
And then also comes the secondary things that do matter to me.. Having a SD card slot is a must for me & removable battery is also useful, also I prefer Amoled screens over LCDs!
So think about it buy wisely!
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thx for ur reply the exact thing i needed to hear
@peRFect! hehe
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thx for ur reply the exact thing i needed to hear
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Always there to help !
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Always there to help !
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hehe me2
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sgatechwork said:
hehe me2
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This forum has enlightened me about so many things that only an Android phone can do..
I'll always be grateful to Xda.. Hail Android!
I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?
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I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?
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I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.
That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).
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I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/son.../cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.
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Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).
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Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.
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Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.
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I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.
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I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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By the way. What's the difference. Between 8mp version and modded resolutions version??
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AndroidInsanity said:
Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.
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http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.
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Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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AndroidInsanity said:
Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.
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Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.
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No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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AndroidInsanity said:
No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54316700&postcount=657
They are different mods from different devs. If you are on kitkatslim evo8.0/8.1, you can flash this patch to return to stock then flash the v7 8MP mode. Remember to clean all settings related with camera every time before you flash mod.
But I may forced back 4.4.2 my Sony SmartWatch2 doesn't seems working good with 4.4.4, some of my sw2 apps not yet updated to fully working under 4.4.4. I'll need to do some more testing to confirm it. And I think the 4k recording quality dropped very slightly in v7 because it used more of libs from z1c stock 4.4.4 and affected the 4k quality this is my guess. We will need to wait for z2 4.4.4 release to real fix all problem.
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I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
Good news! I finally have time to test it and confirm it to be successful and I've updated my guide now.
I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.
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I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.
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Is recovery still working?
Yep.