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I have questions because I might get this phone. Is this the most active forum for this phone?
-do you guys see a lot more development coming?
-is this the forum for the ATT version of this phone?
-how long will it be before anyone actually starts working with this phone? I'm scared to leave my current phone. For a dead one.
-does this take a micro SIM and does it have a SD card slot?
Please answer these questions with the best of your ability. I know I can't ask about development but I wanna know what you guys know before I get a dead cell phone. I understand it's new and will take time. But I wanna know what's going on behind the scenes.
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Braxton355 said:
I have questions because I might get this phone. Is this the most active forum for this phone?
-do you guys see a lot more development coming?
-is this the forum for the ATT version of this phone?
-how long will it be before anyone actually starts working with this phone? I'm scared to leave my current phone. For a dead one.
-does this take a micro SIM and does it have a SD card slot?
Please answer these questions with the best of your ability. I know I can't ask about development but I wanna know what you guys know before I get a dead cell phone. I understand it's new and will take time. But I wanna know what's going on behind the scenes.
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yes. no. now. yes. depend (AT&T has SD but 16GB internal. All others have no SD but 32GB internal)
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yes. no. now. yes. depend (AT&T has SD but 16GB internal. All others have no SD but 32GB internal)
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Do you think the development will extend? I'm on an HTC one x and I'd hate to leave all of the options I have :thumbdown:
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I don't have this phone ... I have LG Optimus 4X .
As you know , Optimus 4X is exactly the same as your phone (one x) . But we don't have any developments .
In a general view , LG Phones don't have a high developers (frankly speaking , don't have any developers) .
LG phones is very cheap with a high performance & excellent hardware , stylish . But I don't know why it's dead in development .
If you want to change from one x to optimus G and want some development, I don't think you will get that .
You can get Root , Unlock BL , Recovery ... but after that you won't get that much of ROMs or Kernels .
I always check one x forum and there are millions ROMs & Kernels . While we aren't even if we have the same RAM , GPU & CPU .
But I'm not sure of Optimus G .
I hope this helped .
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OS_Hacking said:
I don't have this phone ... I have LG Optimus 4X .
As you know , Optimus 4X is exactly the same as your phone (one x) . But we don't have any developments .
In a general view , LG Phones don't have a high developers (frankly speaking , don't have any developers) .
LG phones is very cheap with a high performance & excellent hardware , stylish . But I don't know why it's dead in development .
If you want to change from one x to optimus G and want some development, I don't think you will get that .
You can get Root , Unlock BL , Recovery ... but after that you won't get that much of ROMs or Kernels .
I always check one x forum and there are millions ROMs & Kernels . While we aren't even if we have the same RAM , GPU & CPU .
But I'm not sure of Optimus G .
I hope this helped .
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Haha thanks man. For your feedback. I'll just stick with what I have!
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Why?optimus g> hox anytime.
The phone is great.we already have cm 10.1,but this phone is flawless on stock too.
It's true,there aren't many devs,but those working here are great.to be honest,not the devs is the problem,but the users.we are not many.i bet all my money if this phone would've been made by sammy or htc,this section would've been different,with much users and devs.but it's not the case.
Regarding your criteria for choosing this phone,wow,i'm surprised,i mean,if nokia 3310 has more devs ,youl'd choose that?.
Like i said ,lgog beats hox by a mile.
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I agree with the previous posts. Probably not much development for this because LG makes a good phone.
If google picked them this year to make their Nexus phone, then they got to be doing something right.
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khanfed said:
I agree with the previous posts. Probably not much development for this because LG makes a good phone.
If google picked them this year to make their Nexus phone, then they got to be doing something right.
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That's true to. I'm just sticking with my current phone a little longer. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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Braxton355 said:
I have questions because I might get this phone. Is this the most active forum for this phone?
-do you guys see a lot more development coming?
-is this the forum for the ATT version of this phone?
-how long will it be before anyone actually starts working with this phone? I'm scared to leave my current phone. For a dead one.
-does this take a micro SIM and does it have a SD card slot?
Please answer these questions with the best of your ability. I know I can't ask about development but I wanna know what you guys know before I get a dead cell phone. I understand it's new and will take time. But I wanna know what's going on behind the scenes.
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Nah, it's pretty quiet hear. A nice getaway from the usual hustle-bustle of XDA traffic. Well, Samsung, HTC, and even Sony, they all have a good amount of developers. The XPERIA Z was released after the Optimus G, yet it's got much more developers than the former. I guess LG phones, even though this is a really good device, don't sell that well, and this puts off developers from developing. So, if it's development that you want, I'd advise you to move to another option or even brand.
You already have the 3 main developpement: CM, AOSP, AOKP.
Comming from HTC, I can understand the need for "more roms", since the OEM does totally blows. But honnestly, LG roms aren't half as bad as HTC!
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You already have the 3 main developpement: CM, AOSP, AOKP.
Comming from HTC, I can understand the need for "more roms", since the OEM does totally blows. But honnestly, LG roms aren't half as bad as HTC!
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For the Canadian variant, maybe, but development's seriously lacking for the international E975. We just have CM, but that's a little buggy at present.
Well,chad's version has the call bug and the 8mpx camera,but official cm,with kernel based on lg source,is bugfree.
I tried them both.now i'm looking for a dual boot system,so i can run both official and chad's version untill they decide to merge the projects.if this happens,it will be the best decision.
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kimitza said:
Well,chad's version has the call bug and the 8mpx camera,but official cm,with kernel based on lg source,is bugfree.
I tried them both.now i'm looking for a dual boot system,so i can run both official and chad's version untill they decide to merge the projects.if this happens,it will be the best decision.
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Where did you get official CM?
get.cm/?device=e975
Try here.
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kimitza said:
get.cm/?device=e975
Try here.
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It's a nightly, not the final, polished version. So, it's surely got to have some bugs. By the way, is GAPPS included, because 180 MB seems a little too small for a ROM? And is there a risk of the EFS partition being erased? How do you work around it if there is?
gapps are never included in CM since version 9
you have to flash it manually
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gapps are never included in CM since version 9
you have to flash it manually
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That's what I thought. There were no GAPPS on CM for the XPERIA Arc. Where can you find GAPPS for CM10.1, though?
Google?
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That's what I thought. There were no GAPPS on CM for the XPERIA Arc. Where can you find GAPPS for CM10.1, though?
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Goo.im/gapps
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I had the exactly same question before buying OG.
In my case, the painful experience with my Optimus 2X made me circumspect about another LG phone. I look up for Nexus 4 and I found that it has many problems... so I asked myself the question what is the closest best phone to Nexus 4?
It turns out it was OG. Hardware is identical but OG is faster, better built, has an powerful stock ROM, better camera and radio.
This two phones are so identical that can share 99.9% of N4 kernel. So I guess future android versions will be ported to OG with close to none problems.
E975 is recently launched so development is in its infancy but as you can see, we already have official CM support!
My bet is on OG.
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I am currently using Galaxy Note N7000, and want to change my phone. SO far I have seen in shop xperia ZL seems fine.
I also have in my mind iPhone 5, Xperia Z and lastly galaxy s4 -
My priority is something like this - off course phone, msg , notes, calender
*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
*** Music
*** Design
*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
Do you think xperia ZL will be a good phone for me for next 2 years ?
I havent had a phone for 2 years so far. But I don´t see why the ZL would be a bad choise.
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*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
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Not an expert in this area, but with the lastest firmware update i gotta say i love the camera, not using any of the features, just standard shots in average situations.
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*** Music
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Kind of dissapointed here, was expecting more from Sony, the audio DAC is integrated in the Qualcomm, it´s not a Sony one, my Xperia ARC used to sound better.
I´m planning to upgrade my current earphones (Senheiser CX300-II) to see if i can somehow find a more confortable sound for me.
But remember, sound is a very unique experience, every user has a different way, a differente taste for sound, so what i don´t consider excelent might be gud enough for you.
Best way, grab your earphones/headphones, go a to a local store and try them on the ZL.
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*** Design
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Best smartphone in the market for me.Period.
I absolutely love the design, in 2-3 days time it seems so small and thin on your hand...but you have a 5" inch full hd screen.
Beautiful.
I was kind of hesitating with the on screen buttons, i used a mod to reduce the size (u can even make them transparent), now i would find very hard to use a smartphone with hard buttons.
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*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
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Haven´t use it yet, but did in previous Xperia models, so i guess u shouldn´t have a problem, the option is there, just checked.
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*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
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I always have 3G on, auto-sync off, i get those 12hrs but i´m not an intense user.
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****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
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Well, that´s hard these days, i think the ZL has some weak points, it´s not perfect, and once i find the perfect phone then i´ll stick with it for a long period of time, but surely it´s a lasting phone, everything u need is there, sure there are those minor things u would like to be better (sound quality with earphones for me).
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I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
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Regarding this, there are a few features i love from ZL, the Car Mode, the Remote Control app (u can control every single tv, music player or whatever electronic equipment with remote control) and the Small Apps (apps u can bring to the screen, small sized, such as navigator, calculator, phone, notes, camera...)
The Galaxy S4 is a hell of a phone, don´t like all the Samsung bloatware, but indeed a very nice choice as well.
Now it´s up to you considering your needs, taste and priorities.
Hi there,
Zl is a good phone, in terms of what u hv stated. Im not too sure bout the camera tho, heard so much complain bout it. But its fine for me. Software, well its android and u can download tons of it or u can just leave it alone.
Ip5 is a good choice too. As i was never a fan of apple, but particularly ip5 really capture my eyes.
Choose wisely
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Thank you all for the replies (I already did ) ... I was doing some research ...the camera is samples are quite good I found but best camera is in iPhone, I am not fan of any mobile OS but I like the simplicity in iPhone camera/other app (iOS 7 also looks promising).
But Android is also quite nice with lots of features , I love them all.
Anyways thank you guys
The camera in ZL is not very good.
Otherwise, it's perfect.
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Hi, I'm a Xperia S owner, I'm starting look for a replacement.
Is Xperia ZL a good choice?
I want a quad-core Android, that will be updated to Android 4.3 and 5.0.
I'm from Brazil, here we don't have officially (= no warranty) Xperia Z, Xperia ZR and HTC One.
I can easily find Galaxy S4, Nexus 4 and Xperia ZL.
It's important to say, LTE here is running at 2600 in the next two years also at 700.
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Yeah its a good choice but xperia zl is launched under name xperia zq there in brazil...so y dnt give a hands on..that good luck
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Thank you all for your reply ..finally I picked up iPhone 5 ..I am quite happy with it's simplicity , image quality and off course music with Bose "-)
Hi everyone , how are y'all doing ?
I have galaxy s4 i9500 . it lags and it's not fast , so I wanna change it but I have some questions .
I've taken a look at all the threads in this department . I found out that the battery is impressive and the camera is so good that you can take beautiful pictures by this small phone . That has amazed me because this phone is small and good and that's what I was looking for . On the other hand , I have noticed that there is alot of problems especially after updating to kit kat such as the flash problem , the speaker voice problem .
I don't really know if I should buy this phone or not .
If you help me , I will really appreciate it but please let me know If you have formated your phone after updating or not because the formating will resolve alot of problems .
last question is : What do you think about the performance ? is it powerful ?
thank you so much
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I know this has nothing to do with your question, but how patiance would you be to wait for a next phone?
It's just a suggestion, but if you are worried about the Z1C ( I'm on the same boat ) the specs of the Xperia Z2 Compact hava just leaked. Everything is still imprecise and it could be 4 months from now or much much more than this for them to release. Just sharing
I came from the Galaxy S3. I only miss the screen size. My issue with the S3 was the phone book didn't load instantly. Also some lags after ending calls. Now I'm using the Sony and everything's "instant" like it's really supposed to be in any phone - the phone book and calls to be precise.
I am using Z1C at the moment. I wanted Z2 or SGS5 but I must say Z1S rocks. A little cheaper than other two... But hardware is almost the same, screen size is smaller but for me size iz perfect. And it is very fast, great battery life and great photos. Must have phone
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modiko said:
Hi everyone , how are y'all doing ?
I have galaxy s4 i9500 . it lags and it's not fast , so I wanna change it but I have some questions .
I've taken a look at all the threads in this department . I found out that the battery is impressive and the camera is so good that you can take beautiful pictures by this small phone . That has amazed me because this phone is small and good and that's what I was looking for . On the other hand , I have noticed that there is alot of problems especially after updating to kit kat such as the flash problem , the speaker voice problem .
I don't really know if I should buy this phone or not .
If you help me , I will really appreciate it but please let me know If you have formated your phone after updating or not because the formating will resolve alot of problems .
last question is : What do you think about the performance ? is it powerful ?
thank you so much
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Hi,
I came from Google Nexus 4 rooted and with customised ROM. Apart from the slightly bigger screen size and cooler colours (some prefer warmer colours which this Z1 compact does show, to me), there's nothing much else that I missed. This Xperia compact handles better using one hand and the screen is sharper and more vibrant. It's very snappy, menu navigation is smooth and swift, so far no noticable lag from the few days that I used it. I also rooted successfully using the guide, no worries. I did a total factory reset/wipe before I flash the zips after rooting. Touch wood, have not experienced sound issues. And that camera, seems like the G lens is quite sharp, no serious corner lens distortions like some reviews mentioned. It's way better than that LG phone. Colours are good. You are right! I'm at more than 4 hours screen time, which is impossible for Nexus 4.
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I know this has nothing to do with your question, but how patiance would you be to wait for a next phone?
It's just a suggestion, but if you are worried about the Z1C ( I'm on the same boat ) the specs of the Xperia Z2 Compact hava just leaked. Everything is still imprecise and it could be 4 months from now or much much more than this for them to release. Just sharing
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I actually can't wait for 4 months because I'm traveling to the US in 3 months and I wanna take a phone with me . As we all know , there is no Sony in the United States .
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AnDroiD178 said:
Hi,
I came from Google Nexus 4 rooted and with customised ROM. Apart from the slightly bigger screen size and cooler colours (some prefer warmer colours which this Z1 compact does show, to me), there's nothing much else that I missed. This Xperia compact handles better using one hand and the screen is sharper and more vibrant. It's very snappy, menu navigation is smooth and swift, so far no noticable lag from the few days that I used it. I also rooted successfully using the guide, no worries. I did a total factory reset/wipe before I flash the zips after rooting. Touch wood, have not experienced sound issues. And that camera, seems like the G lens is quite sharp, no serious corner lens distortions like some reviews mentioned. It's way better than that LG phone. Colours are good. You are right! I'm at more than 4 hours screen time, which is impossible for Nexus 4.
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what do you think about the flash light ? does it have any problems ?
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No problems in any flash pics here.
modiko said:
what do you think about the flash light ? does it have any problems ?
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I tried taking some 'normal' flash pictures and have not seen those flash bleed issues, if that's what you mean? I didn't deliberately flash into a blank sky or in total darkness to try and re-create people's issues.
I'm not entirely happy with the Z1... but am still willing to give them another chance lol!
http://www.androidcentral.com/zuk-z2-could-turn-out-be-best-sub-300-phone-year
never gonna buy cyanogen phone anymore
big disappointment in them rolling down the OS update
Same. Never buy Cyanogen phone.
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Same. Never buy Cyanogen phone.
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Same, no COS again
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I'm very happy with the phone, and we have dedicated devs making dependable ROMs and kernels. Plus at a price like that there's no way I can say no
Same to......
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The zuk z1 is a decent phone but cyanogen just messes it up.
I would consider buying one if the get rid of cyanogen and include a better home button that won't brake so quickly
No way, not again Cyanogen OS, no matter which device.
They even can't get the basics running well, like a stabile GPS or even wifi.
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if you love taking photos specially on low light. better go with the Pro version. it has better camera.
For me i miss the main features of the ZUK Z1 - large battery and 5.5". i dont want Z2.
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For me i miss the main features of the ZUK Z1 - large battery and 5.5". i dont want Z2.
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3500mAh is big for 5inch display.
I don't know if it's true but I read on (not sure if it she right site) zukfans.eu that the are not gonna launch it global but China only
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3500mAh is big for 5inch display.
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But why not stay at 4100?
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But why not stay at 4100?
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Because it's smaller phone thus it's harder to squeze that amount in that small space.
I have some questions plz answer these -
1. Does it have 2.5 D glass
2. How good is the display i.e. are blacks deep like Samsung phones considering it has an amoled display
3. How is the build quality?Had any scratches
4. How good is development for this phone ,I mean I have Mi4 and still is well developed Can I expect these to be developed for at least 2 - 3 years.
5.Is camera that bad ?
1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.
The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems the Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. This device don't have those bugs.. so that's good. :laugh:
Also another good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.
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1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.
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Hey, Thanks for clarifying
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The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems some Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. So i see that this device don't have that so that's good. :laugh:
Also anotjer good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine to not use any custom Roms. I am sure development will get even better.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.
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Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.
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Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.
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Good luck with the Redmi
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Good luck with the Redmi
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No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member
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No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member
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Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.
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Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.
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Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?
reality1234 said:
Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?
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You can set the color yes.
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You can set the color yes.
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One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?
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One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?
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It feels like plastic. No scratches.
reality1234 said:
Are there any scratches on home button?
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No. This also works as fingerprint reader so I do not imagine it could work scratched.
i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.
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i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.
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Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:
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Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:
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From a technical perspective it seems like a great device indeed. But you are correct. Moto & Redmi (I guess Huawei too) are more widely-spread. However (speaking for me and the local market) compared to the best available version of Moto G5, this phone has slightly better technical specifications (+1gb ram) for the same price.
Dude, I really hope, that I will enjoy this phone as much as my old G2 and my ancient Galaxy S. :fingers-crossed: