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2 weeks and is broken!

2 weeks and is broken!
I had this thing for not more that 2 weeks and the speaker is broken
T-mobile is sending replacement tomorrow, but this is disappointing from HTC
Only this time i will put screen protector from day one.... the screen is not exactly scratch resistant.
If we add the battery performance andddd this is not exactly Desire

How'd you break it?

I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.

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Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect.
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This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.

Did I miss something in HTC's advertising? Where does it say its scratch resistant?
And you have had it 2 weeks, the battery should only just be starting to reach its peak performance.
I don't wish to appear cynical but all your statements point to the fact that you don't look after your phone and have limited knowledge about it, I'm not surprised your speaker has broken. Count yourself really lucky HTC are giving you a second chance.

Lol.. lucky their speaker broke, that sounds like a genuine fault.
I have to admit I think the speaker is of bad quality. Bloody built in obsolescence imo

Lucky you are getting a replacement.
Mine has dust under the screen, this is not something I could have done myself, not that amount of dust in that specific place after 2 weeks (I've had the phone longer but it's been there for 2 weeks).
T-Mobile wont do anything, even though the Nexus One has the same issue.

CarpeDiemsNuts said:
I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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oursoul said:
This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.
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Whiterin said:
It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.
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Agreed to all.
I have had iPhones, HTC HD2, Hero etc and never scratched one of them. I don't use screen protectors or cases, I don't need them as I put the phones in my pocket without my keys in that pocket. My left one is for my phone, my right for everything else.
Unless you have had a dodgy unit that is made of plastic, I'd have to say its probably down to how you are storing it!
Good luck with your second one

Hmm interesting replies...
I was driving from work and my sat nav suddenly went muted ant that’s it. When i shake the device the speaker works on and off... so for me this is dodgy speaker
About the scratches... Its only one tiny scratch caused by my PLASTIC button on my pocket ...

Could be anything, a bit of sand in your pocket and you're screen is full of scratches. Pouch and screen protector all the way! Or pay around 400 euro's (directly or indirectly) and don't care what happens to those 400 euro's.
Anyway, there are always devices that can have some problems like a broken speaker or something.
Try reading a forum about whatever device, and there are always the same 'stories' like yours. Maybe it's because we're promised perfection which is impossible. But perhaps it's we all want to have perfection and don't know that's impossible anymore. But! There is a reason warranty exists... sometimes things break. No matter what product.

HTC One X build quality is abysmal.

I have no idea how any of you guys have a flawless HTC One X. Seriously.
I have had 10 phones. TEN!
How HTC can send this pile of rubbish out is just beyond me. Sure, the screen is lovely. If it's not covered with yellow splodges, or a faulty digitizer. Or the case surrounding it doesn't creak or flex.
I updated my latest and unfortunately not the greatest 10th phone to sense 4.1. And it's great they have got rid of the three dots.
But whatever they doing at their factories, they are not doing much quality checking. Or perhaps they are sticking the screens down with chewing gum.
If anyone asks me "should I buy a HTC One X". Guess what my answer is going to be?
Sure, if you want to spend the next 2.5 months sending your phone back for replacements, spending over £160 in doing so in line rental, telephone calls to your supplier and postage to send it back. Go for it. It's really fun.
So how did you do it guys? Seriously? Or am I thinking that some of you have actually got slight flaws, but are living with them.
I honestly feel like I could get a crate of HTC One X's and there would be 5 or 6 in it that were without any kind of flaws.
I don't need to put on a flame proof suit. I'm sure I'll get jumped on for this post. However, I genuinely do not believe for one moment that there is such thing as a flawless HTC One X.
People can't seem to understand why Samsung is charging ahead with such success with badly designed phones compared to HTC.
Well, now you know why. Because as much as the design of the Samsung is pants, I imagine their build quality is light years ahead of HTC's.
So it depends if you want your phone to look good, or to actually be without build quality issues.
I know which I would rather have. And let me tell you, it's lesson hard learned.
What a pile of crap.

The reason why you're getting so many bad ones is probably because, unless you are going to a store and personally picking your phone out of the new ones, it's probably a refurb. HTC likely doesn't do much QA for refurbs, so you're sorting through phones that have been returned for the same reasons why you returned your phone. In all likelihood, the defective Samsung phones never even leave the factory.
It sucks, but what can you do?

Sorry to say the obvious, but you've had some really really awful luck with your devices if you've managed to go through 10, and all of them with faults that are worthy of a replacement.
If my device has any issues, it's that there is a slight gap around the screen bezel, enough for 1 tiny spec of dust to get stuck in, and tbh, that's the sort of issue I expect from any phone I purchase, I know Samsung don't do any better with gaps between joins in their design, Apple definitely don't. Guess I have a godly HOX or something?

My HOX has one slight issue as far as im aware, and yes im LIVING with it. Its the fault where if I hold it with my Left hand (WHICH I USUALLY DO) I completely or mostly lose WiFi, I can't be bothered doing the squeeze test etc, as this makes it worse. And I know I have the issue, but 10 phones worthy of replacement? Sounds like your more unlucky than the devils *****.
But canI ask a question?
WHAT IS THESE 3 DOTS EVERYONE IS ON ABOUT?!

I know those issues with a big german service contractor of O2. Not HTCs fault directly but very annoying.
They replace broken phones with refurbished ones and save the QC.
First One X had a faulty digitizer after 3 month -> Swap
Returned one had a gap at the bottom where the light shone through, the black plastic around the screen stood up a bit, a rattling vibrator and a bright 2 cm strech where the bottom backlight is situated. -> Swap
Third one now seems technically ok. I can push the glass out if I like to, because it does not really sit tight which is ok as I am a tinkerer anyway and the SIM card holder looks like somebody chewed on it.
They don't want to swap the card holder alone and want the whole phone returned.
I think I will keep it as I guess it can only get worse with a new one. Chewed holder is nothing compared to most complaints here
@Wilks3y
The 3 dots are a big bar for the menu at the bottom on the screen that show up with some applications that are not yet optimized for Android 4. It's annoying and takes space, but nothing else.

HTC said they solved all the quirks in PRODUCTION. You're getting replacements from your carrier, and you're getting the phones which have been manufactured long time ago (before june or july), because they always hand over the older devices first. They know that some people aren't so aware of the problems and device will eventually find an owner which does not care or know about problem. What you got caught into is the cruel business model.
And that's the reason everyone should insist on picking your phone in the store. I always tell them to show me 5 devices out of the stock and I will inspect them personally (that's a costumer right) for any faults. HOX is not the first device with QC problems, and two owners and friends of mine have zero problems. and if you think samsung is any better, my friend got one in June and chrome plastic around screen started peeling already with his phone always in protective case! plus he cannot get it replaced on warranty because "he himself damaged the device by dropping it".
scam is everywhere mate.

Why have you created a new thread for the same rant?
I understand your frustration though. I went through a very similar thing and only yesterday is it sorted. Unless the wifi issue comes back. I bought the phone on release.
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when you say build quality is abysmal it means all the one Xs they make are from the same kind of quality, for example very cheap plastic being etc or they all have a broken screen
this is not true, in fact a flawless One X is very fancy in terms of build and sturdiness
the issue you talk about is not build quality, its quality control, meaning some defected phones are being let out of factory
when you keep getting defected phones (like my luck when i first went to buy it) it means you should change your source

I have bought one x about 2-4 weeks after being released and had no problems with it so far. Probably some series of phone have been faulty or had low quality control .

I'm with the OP.
I don't think it's easy to quantify what the problems are with this phone - or is it indeed the manufacturer?
Here's my story.
First phone - yellow patch problem - wasn't sure about the wifi issue - but the yellow spots sucked.
Within the 28 day period, so got a straight swap with retailer - in my case Tesco mobile partner (2020mobile I think they're called).
In this time I really baby'd the phone - no drops, no hard knocks, no nothing. No screen protector admittedly - but - within this initial 3 week period, the Gorilla glass 2 (ROFL) still picked up fine scratches.
Replacement phone arrived - this one - less yellowing patches - but still enough for me to notice and not want on a phone which is meant to do me for 2 years. Also at this point I noticed the phone had the infamous wifi problem.
Again, really fine scratching appearing on screen.
So - sent back - outside 28 days, so had to be through HTC repair.
After 1st repair - looks like they'd replaced the screen, but not fixed the wifi - plus they'd managed to scratch the camera lense and body when it was in, so, back it went for repair.
It came back with new housing (ie no camera lense scratch or body scratches), but now I'm finding the wifi issue has clearly not been resolved.
This is just completely nuts.
And the fine scratches on my new screen are now starting to show, after about 3 or 4 weeks use - again with me babying it.
Seriously - this phone if it it didn't have these flaws would be great.
But in reality it seriously sucks.
End of my tether.

I also agree with OP
.. to many different and possible defects:
- GPS
- Sensors
- dead pixel
- dust under Display
- yellow spots
- WIFI issues
- Heating issue (differs from model)
- case and display - Quality (not instantly visible after unpacking)
- Bluetooth
... many more
i changed my phone also 9 times, important part:
- different shops
- different serial 23 to 27
and the best of allnce i sent my phone for repair and received a much worse model with two defects on the case
it defect rate is much better in SH /HT 27 but still a lack of quality...
Well, i think some of the defects are not visible to everyone because they don´t use/need the features !!
SGS3 was no option for me - i stick to the HOX - just want a model without lets call it "build" defects or lack of quality control.. the result is always the same for the customer. I messed around with all the problems and still love the phone ... i think for many "ex" HTC customers it was the last HTC phone for a long time ...
So HTC missed the spot - they invested a lot of money in "interesting" projects or companies instead of dealing with the core business - i am sure the managers who are responsible for this all are still earning a lot of money ... and a few thousand workers have been fired
Well done HTC

I changed my hox 4 times,every time different problem so then I changed to another phone make ,feels bad leaving HTC but when your QUADCORE phone becomes a source of a pain like in my case there is no point hangin about,can't wait to see what HTC will come up with comes Christmas or April 2013 really excited

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And the fine scratches on my new screen are now starting to show, after about 3 or 4 weeks use - again with me babying it.
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Clearly you have grit or something in your pocket then.
Remember - scratches are caused by a harder object, rubbing against the screen. This isn't a manufacturing fault. The screen is not anymore susceptible to scratches than any previous gorilla glass, nor any other standard glass screens.
Either get a screen protector, or find the source of your scratches, ie grit in your pocket and get rid of it. If you have a pouch, could be there is grit in that embedded in the inside fabric layer
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So if I go to a store and they give me 10 defective devices what would I do? Not go through that store.
Or maybe creating multiple threads will solve what common sense couldn't.
Why not merge your two whining threads together since you haven't said anything new.
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I don't know what the deal is, but it ain't the overall build quality.
I had ONE HOX and it's perfect build quality. Actually, best build quality I've ever had, and certainly WAAAAAY Better than my mom's SGSIII or my previous SGSII and SGS.

This is a fact that has been established. But still refreshing to see it pop up again . But I agree with the OP. When I said goodbye to the HTC sensation XL, the One X was on my priority list, for all the obvious reasons. But then I asked myself: do I really want to go through it again, given that everyone is going through with the One X. The answer is no. Half my "thanks" came from defending HTC in the early launch, but now when I see the complaining posts, I cant be bothered to defend anyone anymore.

Now I feel extremely lucky, having a phone with none of these defects. SH23.
One X to rule them all.

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I don't know what the deal is, but it ain't the overall build quality.
I had ONE HOX and it's perfect build quality. Actually, best build quality I've ever had, and certainly WAAAAAY Better than my mom's SGSIII or my previous SGSII and SGS.
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Yeah, I think the OP meant 'quality control' or 'reliability'. Not 'build quality' - I'd say if anything, the quality feel of hTCs higher end devices in the hand is second only to Apple. It's my big issue with Samsungs, really - they charge £450 for a device that is made of exactly the same materials, and has had exactly the same amount of thought into the design as a £90 ZTE Blade. Incidentally, my HOX is 'perfect', at least for now - they do exist.
However, for the bootloader unlocking/warranty invalidation nonsense hTC have been preaching, even if I hadn't heard so many bad things about the One X, I'm never going to buy another device from them or advise others to. Kind of a shame when devices like the Desire and Desire Z were so damn good.

I bought my hoz, from singapure, using eBay. Its perfect, but I will choose all my entery life a broken hoz than a good sg3. A lot of my friend from my country got 20 time their sg3 back, and still changed it, broken glass inside the Box, no light bottons, others dont turn on and so on. As they dont speak english, and as they use sg3 app phone, no modding at all. I will start writing for then in sg3 Forum talking about Samsung sg3 broken glasses and defect software quality.
So that will be a lovely Forum. It will be a good action, cause a love my friends and to help them. I think every hoz uswrs with friends with sg3 problems should do the same.
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I have a March-build HT23 and it was perfect when I got it and its still perfect now. Go figure.

[Q] Is this phone good?

Sorry that i'm posting this if there has been other threads like this, Search was down.
Anyway, is the GPU 'PowerVR SGX540' bad for 'HD' games? Such as GTA 3 or Modern combat 3, etc.
I'm wanting to buy this phone between now to december as i have a planned overseas trip in december. This phone appealed to me due to it's sleek-ish design and the curved unusual screen. How great is the camera quality? I've been on gsmarena.com for quality checks however i can't really tell the differences (tested with galaxy s3 and one x cameras).
Also, is the battery life good enough for moderate usage (a bit of gaming, texting, browsing) throughout the day? (I usually charge my phone whenever i go to sleep)
Wanting to switch from Galaxy 551 to Galaxy Nexus. Originally i wanted to go for HTC One S but they do not sell that model in New Zealand.
Is this phone worth buying now? Or should i buy another different phone - similar specs/price would be nice (in NZD)
Thanks in advance
EDIT - Will this phone still be supported in.. lets say 2 years? (2014/2015). I can get this phone for around $550-$600 since i cannot shop online.

Yes it will be supported for years.
By Google, XDA, and everyone else.
Look at the dinc. Still has development and has JB.
If you can wait for next month for the next Nexus. But I must warn u.
If you wait.
1.) Development will be strong but there won't be much till 3-5 month later.
2.) Price may be high.
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Dragn4rce said:
Yes it will be supported for years.
By Google, XDA, and everyone else.
Look at the dinc. Still has development and has JB.
If you can wait for next month for the next Nexus. But I must warn u.
If you wait.
1.) Development will be strong but there won't be much till 3-5 month later.
2.) Price may be high.
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Development sounds good - My current phone has hardly any development as it's not a popular one.
The Price shouldn't really increase in my country, may stay the same but definitely not increase (If that's what your stating)

this phone very nice...fast updater..simple phone..:good:

I wouldn't recommend you buy this phone. Actually, this is the best phone I've ever had, the hardware is amazing and there is a lot of development for this model, BUT there is a massive manufacturing defect, a lot of Gnex starts having issues with charging and battery drain because a problem with the Micro USB port, this makes the phone unusable and Samsung is not responding about the problem, sometimes they even say that it is not a manufacturing defect so you have to pay for repair...
So, buy another phone, this one is not worth it.

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I wouldn't recommend you buy this phone. Actually, this is the best phone I've ever had, the hardware is amazing and there is a lot of development for this model, BUT there is a massive manufacturing defect, a lot of Gnex starts having issues with charging and battery drain because a problem with the Micro USB port, this makes the phone unusable and Samsung is not responding about the problem, sometimes they even say that it is not a manufacturing defect so you have to pay for repair...
So, buy another phone, this one is not worth it.
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I just looked up some reports about this... It seems like the usb hardware is bent when it happens

Those issues are not as common as they seem.
Like the Death Grip for the iPhone 4. Only 1% complained. Even though it seemed like a global complaint.
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Yes it still is good. Despite of its age its still up there with the heavyweights.
Look here :
http://www.phonedog.com/rankings/smartphones/
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i'm sorry, but i just had too:
my device is great. probably won't switch until development for it dies, or something drastic happens *knock on wood* (lol)
note: gta 3 runs great, btw
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Hey galaxy nexus is just great (coming from a Defy) and it got enough power hardware wise to be quite future proof.

Next Nexus?
Next Nexus... Please send me some links as I badly want to get rid of my S3 because I miss my Nexus... except for the camera... The S3 camera is fantastic, the Nexus camera was a disaster in my opinion...
Thanks for showing me the light

I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)

ifrit723 said:
I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)
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Of the two, nexus, hands down. $350, and top notch development, for a very long foreseeable future. Hardware wins after 2-3 years. Software wins every other time.
I777 gets it done, gnex just for fun

sooo i used and tested a lot of phones in my life.about 3 months ago i started to check the top class. my colegues at work had oneX, oneS, S2, S3, iphone4 and 4s and a GNex. OneX was the firmest, the feel of the materials was great i personaly dont like those capacitive buttons on any phone but, whatever, it had NO battery cover so when something happens you're f****d. S2 was and still is a classic but it was getting old. still good but as i said its old. S3 should be the bomb, it was called the best phone yet. yup its big and what not but that ****ty button and the overall feel of it was a disaster. it was so poorly built for my taste. it was too much plastik, too round i dont know. then i tested the nexus!
oh man first of all the feel of it in the hand. the ballance it gets, with that thicker part it made it feel like a part of the hand. the power button is on the right side and on the RIGHT (HTC). The the first thing i notice is there is no physical button. simple thought for me was less **** to get damaged, so great. when i saw the nav buttons it were the same from my transformer and then it came to me that they were integrated in the scren. well not integrated, but the part of the screen. if you watch a movie or a picture the would go back and it would be the movie/picture. like all phones today they get greassy, when i tourned it back i saw the cover. it was ok. nice pattern but a strange way to take it off and back on. everytime i think something would break. i think it's not a phone for people who change SIM cards often. it was awesome.
but still blah blah blah S3 has 4cpu, 2ram bigger screen. oneX is great almost the same as S3. So i wanted finally a S3 cuz of the bigger screen i watch movies on my phone and tablet and a lot of web. but then i thought it was to damn expensive. 4cpu for what??? Photoshop, 3d moddeling, hard core gaming...hm get a pc or something else for games like psp. cuz a game eats battery like crazy. so insted after a lot of thought for half the bucks i had an awesome phone.
dude buy it i don't know any better phone right now not cuz of this forum or something like that it's cuz the price and what u get us phenomenal!!!
cheers:victory:

I've seen some threads/posts relating to Galaxy Nexus's screen and how it shows these 'lines' or 'dots'. Is this normal for a pentile screen?

Quite a nice device
When it comes to an Android, the GNex is still at the top IMO. The fact that google supports it directly is very nice, and while it may be a bit behind others in stats, it performs quite admirably. The build quality of the device is on par with other samsung devices such as the S3. The camera is probably its weak point, with only 5mega pixels and run of the mill optics, its not going to win any awards for its pictures. However, it is in line if not better than many other smart phones. The only ones that beat it by a large margin are the s3, iPhone 4s/5, and the OneX. Also, I've noticed that when recording 1080p it can occasionally have the odd stutter. I typically use 720p for space constraints, so it doesnt really bother me, but it is something of a bummer. This is seemingly corrected when using a custom kernel and overclocked a bit, but I typically just run the stock rooted ROM now, as the pure "google" experience is what drew me to the phone in the first place.
it offers a smooth ui with JB that is easily as good as the iPhone 4s, and beyond any other android device i've used, bar none. The battery is *decent*, and by that I mean that I have killed it in less than 10 hours, but I use it quite heavily. 95% of the time it goes from 5:30AM to 11pm-ish and has 25% or so starting at 100.The back speaker that serves as the ringer / notification / speaker phone is not up to snuff IMO, leaving a lot to be desired. In some data centers I am unable to hear it when in my pocket, however the otter box w/ belt clip fixed that pretty quick. The proximity sensor occasionally will allow the screen to come on during a call, but the case interestingly enough solved that too (I think it had to do with adding the bulk to the phone, changing how I hold it.)
The ear buds included are quite satisfactory for both music and phone calls, and are very clear, and have a good range for music, most notably the lower end for bass. As to the USB problem, I do notice that it has a hard time with some of the cheaper car chargers, and acts as if it has a short as it wont stay charging until you wiggle the plug just right. But using a decent car charger fixed that. (Dont buy the 5 dollar wal mart special, I use a motorola cable that came with my Atrix 2 and my car stereo's USB port to charge it and it never screws up)
Thats the only USB related issue I ever had, and it seems to be on the chargers end. The bluetooth radio is quite a bit better when compared to anything else I've used, as typically my ear piece when worn on my right ear with my phone in my left pocket would get a poor quality connection, but this has never been the case with the gnex.
As far as signal strength goes, its antenna is quite decent, however if you are (and it appears you are NOT) in the US and using AT&T, a UG baseband brings it in line with the S3 for signal strength (in dBm) as well as band preference, which with the stock XX baseband 1900 seems to be the preferred band, which in a lot of places wont matter, but in the mountains it can introduce some voice quality / data speed issues when it is clinging to that 1900mhz band like glue when it gets 10x the signal on the 850 bands. The screen is fantastic, and I've never noticed any little dots on it. I've never seen it struggle with any video related app or game, but I have a limited array of games on my phone, not really my thing.
About the only thing it doesn't do (but probably can be made to do) for me is AT&T visual voicemail. I have it on my plan but dont get to use it since the gnex, Also, while it has a pretty good list of APN's, be sure to get the correct one from your current phone if keeping the same carrier, just in case you need to manually create it.
A word on customization: If you plan to do anything with this phone, I recommend doing a fastboot oem unlock right out of the box, THEN set the phone up. unlocking the bootloader requires it to completely wipe itself, which is annoying if you played with the phone for a week and THEN unlock it since at that point you're stock and have no decent tools available yet. Also its really hard to brick the thing, but not impossible: Do some searches, backup the efs, dont use odin and you should be good for all the playing you want to do.
Happy trails and hope you enjoy it as much as I have!

Hi guys. So I have the Nexus S and I'm kind of tempted on buying one of these Galaxy Nexus thingies. My Nexus S is only a year old, and overall it's OK on stock JB, but it can be really annoying. 3D games like Modern Combat 3 are completely unplayable and launcher redraws and system hangups occur quite often with on half a gig of RAM.
What would you do? Stay with the old Nexus and get the next model in a year or get the GNex. Where I live the thing costs roughly 380$. Do you think I could send the NS, if yes, for how much?
Thank you for your thoughts!
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When it comes to an Android, the GNex is still at the top IMO.
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Thanks i read your whole paragraph. I have extra cables for charging from previous phones that used micro usb and they havent really broke my devices. Also thanks for all your info, it made me want to get the nexus even more, I'm getting it after my exams next month!
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Hi guys. So I have the Nexus S and I'm kind of tempted on buying one of these Galaxy Nexus thingies.
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I would believe the GNex would be a great phone, however i do not own one so i cannot say. But by the looks of reviews and comments people have posted - it's a great supported phone by google which will last for a while, maybe until Nexus 2

ifrit723 said:
I've somehow persuaded my parents to allow me to buy online.
Should i get Galaxy Nexus or HTC One S?
I really like One S's hardware but i like Nexus's software... tough choice really (Both similar price online, S4 Krait cpu)
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One S doesn't have as much development and will be left die on 4.1 since the next flagship is coming back up soon.
CM will probably keep it going for a year though.
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HTC m8 pitfalls?

I'm a long time HTC sensation user and have modded it all the way up to lollipop. Sadly, the wife just dropped it and cracked her entire screen - just today. It was a fun, slo-mo event. Happily, that means it's time to upgrade. sssshhh I know I can buy a new screen...but it's time for an upgrade after 4+ years.
I'm pretty sure I'm going for the m8 rather than the s5, but I'm curious about any, shall we say, un-"reviewed" pit falls?
Things like:
I know the battery is non removable but the S5 has a removable one. We had the sensation so long we burned through a few ankers and it really helped the life span. Comments on the real world battery? One of the strength, to me, was the removable battery. I have an old itouch, with a, let called it, hard to deal with battery. It was nice to not be forced to upgrade when the battery became is hosed.
The modding power. I quite enjoy rooting/s-offing/breaking my phone - but ideally not bricking. I know htc has been a tad cranky in the past with this, it seems okay looking at the development community and I'm not reading up on too many issues but what are experiences between rooting/roming this vs the S5?
Any, I love this phone but, damn, this one thing really suck but there's a easy work around type things? Or it's be the best phone except the battery is ****? Things the main reviewers won't really say?
Hoping to join you guy here from the sensation forums in a few days(and of course root my phone asap)

It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.

Elisha said:
It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.
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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?

I have tried every other competitor till now. G3 - sluggish and heats up fast. S5 - build quality, knox and no gpe posibility. Z3 - Too pricey, low on updates and development, otherwise a spectacular phone. OnePlus - No stable ROM to date, even CM11SR44 is buggy.
The battery on the One M8 has been great for me. I always get 4-5h SOT through 1-2days. Keep in mind that I come from Z Ultra and Mi3 that both had 3000+ mah batteries.
My advice is to buy this phone, you will not regret it.

This might actually be the first phone I manage to keep for two years (thus avoiding the inevitable arguement with the wife) hahaha

Here are my problems
1. Camera covers scratch really easily. My main back camera was scratched quite badly, even with a spigen slim armor on all the time. I sent it in for repair and they replaced both the front facing and the back main covers. The back currently is being protected by a 'screen protector'. The coating on the new front cover scratched/came slightly off in about a month and I rubbed the rest away. It remains scratch-free, but (number 2)
2. Dust can get under the speaker grilles and get stuck under front facing camera. Not sure if it is due to the replacement of the covers or what. Just last month, I went to Australia for a military exercise and it was very sandy. I believe it was the sand that went in. With that said, my platoon mate using the same phone did not get even a single speck of dust stuck under his.
I messaged the service centre and they said they would clean it for free under warranty, even with my bootloader unlocked, but the technician would do a diagnostic on my phone. The CSO asked for my IMEI number to check if I was under warranty, which I refused to give. Funny part is, shouldn't all M8s be under warranty since it was released only this year?
With regards to the battery, it is definitely awesome, although mine seem to have been weakened with me abusing it.

Personally I really like it-it's my favorite phone since the HD2. I agree it can be awkward to hold and the camera can be scratched, but for me these problems were easily solved by getting a decent case for it(i.e. not one of the barely covers it slim or dot view style cases, one of the bigger ones that actually protects it. I also put a screen protector on it just to be safe. I've dropped it twice from pocket level and it's fine).
The only thing I've noticed that I think could possibly be better is the battery life. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad per se, but I do feel it could be a little better. Of course, there are power saver apps and whatnot you can do to help with that.
And that's it.
What I like is how customizable it is. The only thing we can't currently do is put W8 on it, but given how wide open this phone is, that may just be a matter of time and interest. Meantime you can pretty much do anything else you want to it, which I love. There's a lot to be said for having the choice to use it however you want to. Can't recommend it enough.

Battery life is pretty good on the m8 especially on gpe a gpe m8 I would rate higher than a nexus device go for the m8 you won't be disappointed

One issue and that's the volume keys, everything else seems perfect to me (fantastic build quality, decent camera, decent battery, easily converted to gpe which is really nice).
Edit: Oh yeah second issue is that the htc keyboard sucks, thankfully that's a non issue because you can easily get better keyboards on the store.

I got the M8! Thanks for you thoughts. Already boot unlocked and Rooted, sadly I'll need sunshine not firewater to s-off when I go there but it's a great phone. Having had a Sensation for the lat 4 years...we've forgotten how fast phones can be! Cheers!

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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?
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Enough that I'm constantly trying to get something else!
Had the Nexus 5 for almost 11 months and absolutely loved the feel of the phone in hand!
I've been trying to get a hold of a Z3 but all the Canadian ones are only 16gb so it's kind of disappointing. I'll wait for a next generation SD810 phone before I switch again. GPE Lollipop has reduced my enthusiasm to find something else!

[Q] Should I go for it ??

Hey guys,
I' m thinking about buying an Xperia z1 compact, great performance, awesome camera ...
but I've read that some users had hardware related issues with it .
I want to know your opinions, advice, experiences from using this phone ?
oh, how about the waterproof side is it reliable ?
cheers

nan92 said:
Hey guys,
I' m thinking about buying an Xperia z1 compact, great performance, awesome camera ...
but I've read that some users had hardware related issues with it .
I want to know your opinions, advice, experiences from using this phone ?
cheers
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Just got it now for almost a month, coming from a Motorola Razr I. So i don't have very much experience with this phone.
But i like it. It's fast, great photo quality and i like the leds. Nicely integrated into the call speaker (or how do u call it..).
Battery is good. Last 3 days on stock, almost 2 days on CM. But that's all i tested with no modifications whatsoever to the roms.
The only advice i have is get at least a back cover protector. After just 2 days of getting it, going to work, traveling the back plastic cover is full of scratches (small and big ones). After a week it didn't look nice anymore and i got the silicon cover i wanted. Now everything is good, but those pesky scratches are still there. Thinking of replacing that back cover.

I've had mine for about 14 months now, and I would buy it again today in a heartbeat. It's still lightning fast and the Sony KitKat build is extremely stable (haven't tried LP yet). No desire to upgrade to anything else and I expect to use this phone for a long time. Not to mention you can get this for very good prices now.

Go for it! It's a solid phone that can still contend with recent high-end android devices.
Though, as Hazou said, you might want to invest in a back cover protector, since its backside is not very scratch resistant.

Been used it for almost a year and just upgraded to SGS6 while still keeping z1c as a spare phone at the moment. When it come to the price & performance point, z1c is unbeatable on market. The only and one thing I dislike is the camera focus bad but all other stuffs on this phone is good.
The support is ongoing in this year and get 5.1.1 around August but that's probably the last major update and we'll need devs to port future OS from Z2/Z3c.

No complain about the phone. Just that u can't take photo with flash in the dark. (which u probably should not even use led unless the phone has xenon flash)
But sometimes I do envy phone with double tap to wake and manual control and multi Camera mode that will nv be available on z1 compact.
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