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[Q] Android 4.4 KitKat

Hello everyone,
We all know Android 4.4 KitKat was released today(1/11/2013). Since the source will be availible, is it possible to port it to the kindle fire(1st gen)? If yes, please make a stable rom.
Thank you and have a nice day
(Wanna get rid of CM 10.1)

It will take at least a week I am guessing, because the update "will be rolling out over the following weeks" as Google said, and then people will have to port it, so just have a little bit of patience. Also, why don't you switch to CM10.2 if you don't like what your on, or AOSP for that matter, as that runs better I personally think.
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Not very likely since TI (the chip maker for the KF) won't be supporting android any more... or that's at least what I read. I'm hoping that I'm wrong though.

swaarley said:
Not very likely since TI (the chip maker for the KF) won't be supporting android any more... or that's at least what I read. I'm hoping that I'm wrong though.
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Google said it can run on low end devices, and we do have Hashcode's 3.4 Kernel

jma9454 said:
It will take at least a week I am guessing, because the update "will be rolling out over the following weeks" as Google said, and then people will have to port it, so just have a little bit of patience. Also, why don't you switch to CM10.2 if you don't like what your on, or AOSP for that matter, as that runs better I personally think.
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I cannot change too quickly. Mom allowed me only for CM 10.1, and now for CM 11(It will come, right?). Cannot do CM 10.2.

That kernel is not ready for primetime, also there is code that the chip maker will have to release code for it. See hash and others posting about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850&page=276

Google says that kitkat can run on devices that have as low as 512mb RAM. We can sure overclock our processor to 1.2 GHz
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swaarley said:
That kernel is not ready for primetime, also there is code that the chip maker will have to release code for it. See hash and others posting about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850&page=276
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You know, hash doesn't say anything about not getting it to work. In my opinion he clearly stated that he is really trying to get 4.4 to work. It was others that were being sceptical.
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True, the first ROM for any android version for our device is done by hash. Same case for 4.1,4.2,4.3,4.3.1
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As was previously stated, Texas Instruments is out of the microprocessor chip game and they have stopped supporting the binaries for newer versions of Android. It wasn't directly stated by Google but it's very likely that it was for that reason that they chose not to support the Galaxy Nexus in the newest iteration of Android, as it also uses a TI chip. I'd like to think that it would be possible to run Android 4.4 on the old Kindle Fire, especially since it lags pretty badly on stock, but I am afraid that the likelihood is fairly low.

True that it also what is written on hash's thread for the new kernel. He sure I trying hard and so my hopes are pretty much alive
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sparkplugDev said:
As was previously stated, Texas Instruments is out of the microprocessor chip game and they have stopped supporting the binaries for newer versions of Android. It wasn't directly stated by Google but it's very likely that it was for that reason that they chose not to support the Galaxy Nexus in the newest iteration of Android, as it also uses a TI chip. I'd like to think that it would be possible to run Android 4.4 on the old Kindle Fire, especially since it lags pretty badly on stock, but I am afraid that the likelihood is fairly low.
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They already have 4.4 Roms for the Verizon galaxy nexus...it won't get official Google support but they have gotten Roms for it:
Example:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508073
So,is it possible? Yes. Will it take a while? Probably....don't expect it soon but as others have said hashcode is working on
It...keep your fingers crossed

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They already have 4.4 Roms for the Verizon galaxy nexus...it won't get official Google support but they have gotten Roms for it:
Example:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508073
So,is it possible? Yes. Will it take a while? Probably....don't expect it soon but as others have said hashcode is working on
It...keep your fingers crossed
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4.3 binaries can be hacked for 4.4.
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Hey guys! The wait is almost over.
There is already a build, no WiFi
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Stable build of cm 11 released, I think we can close this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47706499#post47706499
Moral: Lets always be optimistic (At least when its sensible)!
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Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 Google Play Edition

This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?

kronikwisdom said:
This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?
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It's out for a very short range, thats why there are no roms so far. I dont think it will get a Play Store Edition :crying:

kronikwisdom said:
This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?
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I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.

As much as I love my 8.4, A black 32GB Google Play edition would pretty much require me to buy another :good:

crpalmer said:
I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.
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Agreed. I really wish I had the equipment and know-how to use your kernel and device tree and build SlimKat (my ROM of choice). Hopefully more folks will buy this tablet as time goes by, and we'll get some more talent in here. I did have a pm conversation with someone from the Slim team who expressed a little interest in the device, so fingers crossed.
From my Pro Tab 8.4

crpalmer said:
I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.
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Any chance your work will be submitted to be an officially supported Cyanogenmod device?
Or is it too much work to be a maintainer for a device.
Thank you so much for your work already.

Dazog said:
Any chance your work will be submitted to be an officially supported Cyanogenmod device?
Or is it too much work to be a maintainer for a device.
Thank you so much for your work already.
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My goal is to make it official when I have everything working. But, I have to finish it first... I already maintain one device so adding a second wouldn't be that big a deal.

I just couldn't hold out any long. Picked up the black on yesterday and WOW this screen is amazing. I'll be running CM11 from your thread by lunch, and will help to provide feedback over there. thanks!!

I was wondering why any root/rom discussion seems to only be focused on the 8.4; are there reasons the 10.1 isn't included (I realize less people seem to be getting the bigger tab). Looking to love my 10.1, as the 8.4 is too small for my reading needs. Thanks for any info!

djroese33 said:
I was wondering why any root/rom discussion seems to only be focused on the 8.4; are there reasons the 10.1 isn't included (I realize less people seem to be getting the bigger tab). Looking to love my 10.1, as the 8.4 is too small for my reading needs. Thanks for any info!
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Two reasons. One, I have a tab pro 8.4... Two, the 8.4 is based on the snapdragon 800 (msm8974) processor which is very well supported on other devices. The 10.1 is an Exynos processor which is not well supported by source built android roms.

crpalmer said:
Two reasons. One, I have a tab pro 8.4... Two, the 8.4 is based on the snapdragon 800 (msm8974) processor which is very well supported on other devices. The 10.1 is an Exynos processor which is not well supported by source built android roms.
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Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. Pretty new to Android world, but I loved switching from my iPhone 5 to the Nexus 5 so much, and how easy it was to root, and add Franco and Gravity Box, that I jumped on the 10.1 to replace my iPad Air. Knew Nexus' were known for being easy to root, but didn't know about Samsung's Knox Warranty Killer! But still mostly pleased, and as I despise Apple's $200 for 64gb(- os) policy, love being able to carry around 3000 books, several movies, and 30gb of flac music.
Hopefully it will be safe to root soon.

Find 7 and questions about Oppo phones?

why on earth did they not launch this phone with Kitkat?
anyway I have a question regarding Oppo's software support, is it good? will they quickly update Find 7 to Kitkat? I have heard that Oppo's software are rather somewhat unreliable, is it true?
about Color OS, is it good? is it full of bloatwares or not? how deep is the customization?
will Find 7 have official Cyanogenmod support? how about other custom ROMs?
thanks for answering!

Oppo listen very much to their user base and they will update it to KitKat. You can flash other roms to Oppo using their stock recovery, they're partnered with CyanogenMod so Cm roms should run well on their devices.
As for other custom roms, it depended on if the Dev want to develop for it or not, if you purchase a Find 7 for them, they probably will. Hint: Take a look at the Find 5 and N1 development section.
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The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.

Allanitomwesh said:
The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.
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Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?

nap007 said:
Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?
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CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...

My concern with running CM on this phone is, will it lose features? Like the 50MP super zoom mode?

Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.

Allanitomwesh said:
Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.
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what? but didn't n1 retain it's features with cyanogen?
and can't you just install specific phones apps to get it's features?

Yes, because CM built the phone with OPPO,far as I know,they're making the OnePlus One ATM. So yeah, it'll be like on Find 5 most likely.

seriousneo said:
CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...
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I haven't heard any news regarding a Cyngn partnership for the Find 7.
Remember, after last year's events, when talking about CM, there are really two different entities which are semi-connected:
CM - the original CyanogenMod open source software project. The Find5 was originally maintained by community members who were solely involved on this side of things. All of that team left for Omni as a result of the Focal relicensing fiasco (This is why the Find5 never saw official CM10.2)
Cyanogen Inc - Referred to from here on in this post as "Cyngn" - The corporate entity created by some of the Cyanogenmod leads
Cyngn was partnered with Oppo for the N1 so that Cyngn could gain experience with taking a device through GMS (Google Apps) certification. There has been little to no CM community involvement with the N1 - it's a purely Cyngn affair. All community efforts on the device are focused on other projects (Oppo sent preproduction N1s to people involved with CodefireXperiment, Omni, Paranoid Android, and a few others)
Cyngn is currently partnered with OnePlus to focus on their launch device. They aren't even putting much effort into the N1 now if you read any of the user reviews. (Both official 10.2 updates are full of bugs, and CM11 has had broken location services for two months now with not a single word from the development team.)
So the support of the Find7 by CyanogenMod is unknown and indeterminate. It will likely involve community effort if it happens, but all "community" contributors with current Oppo devices are working on other projects. Omni support is HIGHLY likely, I would not be surprised if, like the Find5 and N1, it proves to be one of Omni's best supported devices. CodefireXperiment and PA support are also highly likely (Actually I'd say pretty much guaranteed in the case of CFX, Oppo and Anders get along as well as the Omni team gets along with Oppo). (While PA usually focuses on Nexus devices, there usually have been exceptions for Oppos due to Oppo providing excellent support to Aaron from PA.)

Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .

returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!

nap007 said:
returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!
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About the apps yeah,there was a thing about Lightflow not working,but its usually a one app thing,especially if it works by identifying the phone,mostly coz OPPO is so unique. As a plus ANY Chinese app works without a hitch when they give other manufacturers incompatibility issues
Omni is confirmed,Maxwen is getting a Find 7.
Unless i'm wrong ColorOS 2.0 should be kitkat.

CHlCKEN said:
Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .
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Well I would consider the battery a moderate compromise. 3k mah is not really sufficient for a 5.5" 2k screen. I was really hoping for 3500mah or more.
I'm wondering how the screen compares to the Note 3 OLED screen. The Note 3 has an extra .02", extra 200mah, but Samsungs OLED's aren't as efficient as SLCD's.
The batt life is the defining factor here for me and I would assume a great many others. If HTC can deliver on this, they'll take a good few percent of the upgrade market. Damn Sony for not bringing their Z2 to the US. It would dominate the tech-savvy market completely.

last time I heard the screen use new low power tech so let's wait for a review first before calling the battery is a flop.

mhl, hdmi?
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?

Wyzco said:
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?
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likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.

I heard the lower-end version Oppo Find 7a is better than Oppo Find 7 in many sectors, like screen, performance, etc. I really hope that Oppo equips this phone with that brilliant touch-less voice command just like on Moto X. It's gonna be really awesome for this phone. In fact, i think all of the new phones in 2014 should also have this feature. I mean, the real touch-less voice control when the phone is still locked. Unlike Google Nexus 5's "Ok Google" voice control that can only be used when the phone has been unlocked.

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Really??? You're telling me about Audio output?
Every phone has that! Smh

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Supports a bunch of wireless outputs
DLNA and Miracast off the top of my head,and Wifi Display

Thinking of buying this instead of a G3.

Hey,
so I just watched a review about the Oppo Find 7a. And I have to say that it I felt in love with it.
First I wanted to buy a LG-G3 because of its awesomeness, but know that I found the Find 7, I feel like I should buy this instead of the G3.
But there are a few things that I'd like to ask you before.
- Where's the difference between the 7 and the 7a? I heard the 7a owns a slower CPU/GPU, a smaller battery and a smaller resolution. And I also heard that the 7a seems to have the better display, because its more saturated, brighter and overall the viewing experience should be better than on the 7. Is that right?
- Will there be custom roms? I think I won't like the ColorOS, because I'm using "stock" android since 2 years now and I got pretty used to it. So I'd like to flash a custom rom, running KK4.4.2 (Omni,CM, ..). What do you think?
There are many things that I like on the 7 (MaxxSound, SD Slot, ..) that the G3 will not own. I am pretty unsure if I go with the G3 to get guaranteed custom roms and take out that it doesn't have such nice features as the 7, or I go with the 7 and maybe don't get custom roms :/ Whats your opinion?

for the differences between 7a and 7 is best to check here:
http://en.oppo.com/products/find7/#find7-specs
difficult to compare displays at this point because find 7 is not available yet. I saw that article with display comparison somewhere on the net, but these were pre-production units ant things may change by the time find 7 is available
custom roms for find 7a are already available (cm 11s port, gummy rom, omni, I heard MIUI will be available) so am sure that find 7 will get them too...
I switched from LG G2 to find 7a and must say I do not regret it..display is great, sound as well, phone is snappy...
was just one of that unlucky guys which got units with yellow tint at the bottom of the screen. but have already contacted oppostyle and agreed with them that if the tint will not go away within one week, they will replace the phone

hi,
I bought my selve a find 7a and i can tell you that it is one of the better phones i have owned.
personally i think that on this moment the 1440p screen in the find 7 will be to demanding for other internal components.
and about the roms, i've been flashing some now and ican tell you that even in this beta stage, they all run almost flawless.
i wish you good luck deciding.

The find 7a has some great hardware but so far was a mediocre choice in terms of software.
Thanks to the recent wave of custom ROM goodness though it's become a extremely viable option.

IMO the hardware is solid and holds its own with anything available now, the software not so much. I cant say for certain but IMO the alpha roms all of which I have now tried show extremely great promise and its my belief that the software side of the equation will be as solid as the hardware sooner rather than later. I would say that were I on the fence now I would wait for the 7 to get a little closer before I bought in. It may be you want to go that way (or not) and you will have answers very soon on the worthiness of the upgrade from 7A.

Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it

furiify said:
Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it
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Well, there are multiple reports suggesting that the G3 will have a microSD slot. I mean.. it will most probably support UHD recording.. and where do you expect anyone to store all that data?
Not so familiar with MaxxSound, but I tested the 7a a few days ago and I was super pleased, just as tested by GSMarena.
As for G3, there are reports on it having a 1W speaker, and that's gonna be loud too.
So.. IF what I said were to be true, then the G3 being a smaller (and possibly lighter) device would be a winner. End of the day, the cost also matters.
Waiting for announcement here as well...

Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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Pick_A_Name said:
Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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I don't think that it is so hard to add it to a custom rom or is it? I mean ROM-makers do/did incredible stuff.
Awaiting today's LG-G3 livestream presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPZO2fcAUo

just seen a video for g3 and it looks stunning

How is the Custom Rom support for the Tab 8.4?

So I've been giving real consideration to picking up the 8.4 Tab, that screen is very nice. But like many I've been waiting on Google to announce the rumored Nexus 8 or 9. I have a Nexus 7 '12 I'm ready to replace. If I get the Tab, rooting and a custom rom is a given for me. I'm wondering how many roms support it though? The main roms I use are Cyanogenmod, Carbon, and Liquidsmooth. What roms are you guys using and what's been your experience rooting this device?
Any input would be appreciated fellas so thanks in advance.

CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2848705

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JayHall2502 said:
So I've been giving real consideration to picking up the 8.4 Tab, that screen is very nice. But like many I've been waiting on Google to announce the rumored Nexus 8 or 9. I have a Nexus 7 '12 I'm ready to replace. If I get the Tab, rooting and a custom rom is a given for me. I'm wondering how many roms support it though? The main roms I use are Cyanogenmod, Carbon, and Liquidsmooth. What roms are you guys using and what's been your experience rooting this device?
Any input would be appreciated fellas so thanks in advance.
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Forget about custom roms.

It's an Exynos chipset so of course the options are limited and dev support will remain nearly zero. The last Samsung device with Exynos to experience decent dev support was the Note 2 a couple years back.
Samsung's indifference/hostility to devs makes it unlikely to change. See the International Note 3 for example.

These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.

Leonart said:
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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Actually, rule of thumb if you're interested in custom roms - Avoid Samsung and just stick to the other big three.

Leonart said:
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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I was trying to wait on the new Nexus tablet since I had the 7 from 2012 but got impatient. Actually just got the Tab Pro 8.4 to see how it is. It's cool so far, not sure if I'll keep it yet. Thanks for your thoughts.

Be relaxed, devs are slow^H^H^H^Hbusy in buying new stuff.

moreroid said:
Be relaxed, devs are slow^H^H^H^Hbusy in buying new stuff.
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Nope. When it comes to Exynos, most of them stay FAR AWAY.

Leonart said:
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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After seeing this post I tried the performance governed and don't see any issues. Not that I'm asking for bug reports but still sorry you had issues.
as far as all the hating on the exynos soc, its really not any different then the other soc's out there as far as porting goes. There is a ton of source out there for the 5420 and its even been updated a couple times.
Sure hate on Companies and all that deserve it, but in this case Samsung has given plenty of support, more then even I expected and they deserve the proper credit for that.
Edit, don't mean to single out this single post, it is geared more towards the thread in general.

kenkiller said:
Nope. When it comes to Exynos, most of them stay FAR AWAY.
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because of missing kernel support or missing gpu support?

We've already got a working CM11 for 8.4, looks like there could be 10.5 CM11 just round the corner. A number of rooted and debloated stock roms. There are devs working on AOSP and LINARO. We have a kernel for stock and CM11 and the device is only a few months old, what more do you guys expect in such a short time? The Exynos development will come, be patient. ?

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killall said:
We've already got a working CM11 for 8.4, looks like there could be 10.5 CM11 just round the corner. A number of rooted and debloated stock roms. There are devs working on AOSP and LINARO. We have a kernel for stock and CM11 and the device is only a few months old, what more do you guys expect in such a short time? The Exynos development will come, be patient. ?
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If _all_ based on _open source_, only a full re-compile on a fast machine would necessary.
So, it is not open source at all?

moreroid said:
If _all_ based on _open source_, only a full re-compile on a fast machine would necessary.
So, it is not open source at all?
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Show me a main stream device that does not have binary blobs. Also you are making the assumption both the t700 and t800 are identical hardware wise which is not the case.
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moreroid said:
because of missing kernel support or missing gpu support?
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Neither, there is kernel and GPU support.