Teclast X98 3G - 9.7" Retina 22nm Intel x64 Bay Trail Android tablet - Device Reviews and Information

I could not find this tablet mentioned anywhere on XDA, so I've decided to create this thread for sharing impressions and useful information between owners and anyone interested.
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Manufacturer's page:
http://www.teclast.com/en/zt/x983g/
Specifications:
CPU: Intel Bay Trail-T 3735D 64bit, 22nm, 1.3(turbo 1.83)GHz
RAM: 2GB (DDR3L)
ROM: 32GB eMMC Flash
Display: 9.7 inch IPS 2048x1536
Camera: 2MP front / 5MP back (AF)
Radio: 802.11b/g/n, GSM+WCDMA, GPS, BT 4.0, WiDi
Connectivity: mkHDMI, mkUSB/OTG, mkSDXC
Battery: 8500mAh
MSRP: 1299CNY (approximately $210US).
First impressions
Fast, responsive, light, crisp and bright
Several Chinese apps. Some of them installing other Chinese apps. (removed/disabled, except for tUI and TeclastAutoUpdater)
No Apps drawer. no widgets - Apple-like UI. (Apex Launcher installed)
Overall feeling of money well spent
Current problems
I've found two things that I don't like about the tablet:
First, the speakers. I can't complain about sound - there's some bass, highs are clear, overall quality is good. But it eludes me why would someone place two speakers on the same side?
Second, and hopefully, temporary one, is the battery meter. From 0% it goes to 100% in about 20 minutes (BTW, the tablet pulls 2A out of the bundled PSU), says "charging 100%", for few hours more the current is still 2A, then 1.5A for some time, then 1A (somewhere here its starts to say "Charged"), and after 8 hours, when the current was 0.2A, I've disconnected the cord. "Bleep! Connect the charger! 10%" After an hour of use, I turned it of, then on... 77%! Went down to 8% after an hour more, then to 7% in another hour... :silly: A firmware update is definitely needed here. BTW, in 2 days I own the thing, I've had 2 updates, so the manufacturer's developers are doing something.
--- Update 2014-08-01
I've got the POWER!
The bad news are - (1) technical support does not answer emails, at least in my experience.. Probably because of language difficulties, maybe they have some other reasons. (2) replacement batteries are hard to find - on ali express I found only one seller who claims his batteries are 12Ah. The good news is - I did not need all of that. Finally, I've decided to open the thing up and check all accessible connection points.
Disassembly
You'll need a sharp tool (there are special plastic tools, but I used regular small knife to start, and a plastic one from ikea to widen and crack on the initial opening). Back cover is snapped on over the screen base on small latches, and all you need to do is slit the groove that goes around the screen a little, then go on unlatching until it comes apart. The groove is just around the screen, between two plastic parts, not around the metal cover.
All I needed to do was tracking the battery wire, lifting black tape, and re-plugging the wire in its place. Full battery power is now restored. Feeling are mixed -- or ?

thanks for review
I have been looking to buy this tablet, where did you buy it from?
Thanks

garryweil said:
I have been looking to buy this tablet, where did you buy it from?
Thanks
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I bought mine from Aliexpress.com, from a seller with 3 diamond rating. Probably there are other places, but so far the price is slightly above the MSRP.

Thanks for the review
avich said:
I could not find this tablet mentioned anywhere on XDA, so I've decided to create this thread for sharing impressions and useful information between owners and anyone interested.
Specifications:
CPU: Intel Bay Trail-T 3735D 64bit, 22nm, 1.3(turbo 1.83)GHz
RAM: 2GB (DDR3L)
ROM: 32GB eMMC Flash
Display: 9.7 inch IPS 2048x1536
Camera: 2MP front / 5MP back (AF)
Radio: 802.11b/g/n, GSM+WCDMA, GPS, BT 4.0, WiDi
Connectivity: mkHDMI, mkUSB/OTG, mkSDXC
Battery: 8500mAh
MSRP: 1299CNY (approximately $210US).
First impressions
Fast, responsive, light, crisp and bright
Several Chinese apps. Some of them installing other Chinese apps. (removed/disabled, except for tUI and TeclastAutoUpdater)
No Apps drawer. no widgets - Apple-like UI. (Apex Launcher installed)
Overall feeling of money well spent
Current problems
I've found two things that I don't like about the tablet:
First, the speakers. I can't complain about sound - there's some bass, highs are clear, overall quality is good. But it eludes me why would someone place two speakers on the same side?
Second, and hopefully, temporary one, is the battery meter. From 0% it goes to 100% in about 20 minutes (BTW, the tablet pulls 2A out of the bundled PSU), says "charging 100%", for few hours more the current is still 2A, then 1.5A for some time, then 1A (somewhere here its starts to say "Charged"), and after 8 hours, when the current was 0.2A, I've disconnected the cord. "Bleep! Connect the charger! 10%" After an hour of use, I turned it of, then on... 77%! Went down to 8% after an hour more, then to 7% in another hour... :silly: A firmware update is definitely needed here. BTW, in 2 days I own the thing, I've had 2 updates, so the manufacturer's developers are doing something.
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Thanks so much for the review. I have been looking at this tablet and decided to purchase. I ordered from Ali express I think from the same seller you did (qh store) when I get it I'll let you know if I have the same battery issues.

sensors??
Hi, Im considering about this tablet but there is a small question that I wanna know before purchasing which is how many sensors this device has, does it has e compass and gyroscope as well as gravity sensors? Would you mind checking it for me?
Thanks in advance!

lala206 said:
Hi, Im considering about this tablet but there is a small question that I wanna know before purchasing which is how many sensors this device has, does it has e compass and gyroscope as well as gravity sensors? Would you mind checking it for me?
Thanks in advance!
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I am attaching AnTuTu test results, the last one says there is no G-Sensor, or compass, only Acceleration and Light sensors. However my seller indicated that there is gravity sensor, so there is a possibility (I hope) that it will appear after some magical firmware update.

tPad
They call it a tPad as a takeoff of the iPad I have had mine now for almost 3 weeks with very little trouble. I have not noticed the battery thing but I will keep an eye out for it. Yeah a bit strange about the speakers but what are you going to do. I have had 2 updates so far also. You can get Windows 8.1 on it now but it is a bit of a pain from what I can see to install from the factory website and doing a Google translate. Here is the link for the x98 forum. http://bbs.teclast.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=48 I think there is a new way to install Windows coming on the 15th. For the money ( I paid 1149 RMB-about $185 USD on Taobao when it first came out) I think you can't beat it. Great speed, great screen, 3G and I think it will be able to dual boot soon. Hope they get 4.4 on it soon

Hdmi
I'm looking for a tablet and this gives me good vibes HDMI its important for mi could somebody guarantee me that if this tablet has this port?
And another question, when W8.1 comes up officially, does it has a dual boot or we can only use an OS?

Nice review!
jhnchristopher said:
Thanks so much for the review. I have been looking at this tablet and decided to purchase. I ordered from Ali express I think from the same seller you did (qh store) when I get it I'll let you know if I have the same battery issues.
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Thanks for a lovely review :good: I too found this tablet absolutely fast and smooth but with few glitches as you mentioned like akward speaker positioning and battery drainage. Battery issues will be fixed soon hopefully. I used VRoot chinese version to root. Waiting for windows 8.1 update!

anyone who have this tablet can tell me about glass? is there some kind of protection like gorilla glass etc, or is easily to scretch it like Onda V975m? Im choosing my tablet now, but dont wanna waste my money..

thank you
avich said:
I am attaching AnTuTu test results, the last one says there is no G-Sensor, or compass, only Acceleration and Light sensors. However my seller indicated that there is gravity sensor, so there is a possibility (I hope) that it will appear after some magical firmware update.
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Thank you very much! Finally, it lacks so many sensors. Im a bit disappointed, but actually maybe I still go for it because of Windown 8.1 full

Sparh4wk said:
anyone who have this tablet can tell me about glass? is there some kind of protection like gorilla glass etc, or is easily to scretch it like Onda V975m?
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No scratches so far. But sorry, I could not make myself scratch the screen with a piece of metal deliberately.

do google apps work?
Can anyone confirm If Google apps work? Google maps {turn by turn directions}, contact sync and other apps? Thanks in advance.

Hi guys!! I'm thinking of replacing my V975M for this the teclast X98... What do you guys think? What is Antutu X score for this one? Not Antutu... Where to buy it? Thanks!

where is the above product local service center ? it is a china product ?

eteles said:
Hi guys!! I'm thinking of replacing my V975M for this the teclast X98... What do you guys think? What is Antutu X score for this one? Not Antutu... Where to buy it? Thanks!
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If you dont need GPS & 3G
Best Choice is Onda V975I
Becuse Onda is The best company in firmware support
For example Huawei Never released any new Firmware For MediaPad 10 FHD ( good hardware )
But
Onda every month release New version of android for their product
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rasoooli said:
If you dont need GPS & 3G
Best Choice is Onda V975I
Becuse Onda is The best company in firmware support
For example Huawei Never released any new Firmware For MediaPad 10 FHD ( good hardware )
But
Onda every month release New version of android for their product .
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Dude, I have the Onda V975M and let me tell you something about Onda... Their firmware SUCK... It's so much bugged that they have to release several updates... But the worse thing is that the bugs keep coming back every other update and you feel that nothing has really improved...
Another thing is that they are liers... They cheat at Antutu... They claim the CPU runs at 2.0Ghz (for the V975M) but the frequency is NEVER used by the system, except for cheating at Antutu benchmark...
They don't release source code, so you can't unlock the frequencies on kernel or have code modification for building better custom roms, or for the community to fix their mess...
The only reason they release so many updates is that they launch the product so early that their first ROMs leave the tab quite unusable, with system lag, rebooting, WiFi and sd card disconnection when tab sleeps... having to reboot tab to reconnect WiFi every time it sleeps and much more terrible bugs...
Not to mention the update procedure, that has 50% chance of hard bricking your tab... another thing: it doesn't have download mode and Sd card booting doesn't work after bricking...

QQQ
hi i want to buy this tablet but i have several question can any one help me if he have this tablet or know this question ?
1- can you tell me How long does it take the battery use on wifi and 3g connect with 50%brightness ?
2-can you tell me How long does it take the battery use on 3d gaming ?
3-can you tell m eHow long does it take the battery use on play back fhd movies ?
***How long does it take to fully charge the batteries?
4-whats your observation about battery life in this tablet ?
5-can i make a gsm phone call with tablet(2g) ?
6-can you tell me problems do you have with tablet (cons)?
7-do you recommend i will buying this tablet ?
thank you very much if you will answer my question

I found a review that said that this processor is not compatible with many 3d games, and wouldn't load 4 of 10 3d games that they tried. Can any of you that own this tablet confirm or refute this?

harpdoc said:
I found a review that said that this processor is not compatible with many 3d games, and wouldn't load 4 of 10 3d games that they tried. Can any of you that own this tablet confirm or refute this?
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That is very likely true for the moment - many games come with binary optimized code for ARMv7 32-bit architecture, while this one is Intel x64 and just started to appear on low-cost devices. But I would expect things to get (much) better in a few months. I also think there might be a possibility that gaming could be a lot better with some games under the (extra-cost) Windows OS.

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[Review] DOOGEE X5 Pro - A $85 best buy

Doogee is a relatively new Chinese company, but has no difficulty with introducing innovations onto the mobile phone market through its products. Founded in early 2013, the company is yet to really develop a big fan base, but is quickly gathering attention with its merchandise offering excellent features in its price range. Every year smartphone market presents new models better than the year before for a lower price. This trend is also followed by small companies like Doogee, which has recently come out with its X5 Pro model.
You must be wondering what makes this model so special. Well, it offers amazing features for the price of only $85 – 5.0” display, 64-bit Quad-Core processor, 2GB RAM, 16GB of internal memory, 2 cameras, 2400mAh battery and Android 5.1 Lollipop! You are interested, aren’t you? It’s OK, so am I.
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A well-recognized web site specialized in selling mobile phones, tablet computers and accessories, Pandawill, has provided a sample of the Doogee X5 Pro for testing and writing this review.
Technical specifications:
Processor: 1.0GHz Quad-Core Cortex-A53 (Mediatek MT6735, 64-bit)
Graphics chip: Mali-T720
Display: 5.0“ IPS LCD 1280x720 pixels (sensitive in 2 points simultaneously)
RAM: 2GB
Memory: 16GB ROM (~12GB user available) + microSD slot
Back Camera: 5.0Mpix (interpolated 8.0Mpix), autofocus, LED flash, video [email protected]
Front Camera: 2.0Mpix (interpolated 5.0Mpix)
Battery: 2400mAh (removable)
Connectivity: WiFi 802.11b/g/b, Bluetooth 4.0, microUSB, OTG, GPS with A-GPS
OS: Android 5.1 (Lollipop)
Dimensions: 145 x 82 x 40mm
Network: 2G – 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3G – WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz, 4G – FDD-LTE Bands 1/3/7/8/20
Other: Dual SIM, FM Radio
Package content​Doogee X5 along with its accessories comes in a compact box, the design of which is simple, but quite interesting. On the top there is a light-reflecting “X5 Pro” mark, while on the bottom you can see phone’s most important features. On one of the sides of the box, there is a scratch sticker hiding the product authenticity verification code.
Upon opening the box on the side, you can pull out the content of the box – phone, charger, USB cable and short manual. A protective foil is already on the phone, so its new owner doesn’t have to go through the trouble of applying it himself.
The charger is standard, with a generic shape and specifications of 5V 700mA. However, it would surely be better if the manufacturer had provided a charger of at least 1A to shorten the charging period.
The USB cable given with the phone could be used for phone-PC data transfer as well as for charging – it is not limited only to the charging capacity.
The short manual covers the basics of Android OS use, and thus will be useful only to the beginners in the Android world.
The 2400mAh battery is already inside the phone when the buyer gets it, but before he starts using it, he needs to remove the protective foil off of it, as is specified on the box.
The absence of stereo headphones from the package implies that the manufacturer wanted to lower the price as much as possible, which will not bother most of new users, since they will already have headphones of their liking.
Appearance​Doogee X5 Pro has a simple design and the model we received for the purpose of this test is completely black (there is also a black-and-white combination). It is considered to be a phone of average thickness (8.2mm), but you can “feel” it in the hand because of its weight of as much as 130 grams. The battery cover takes most of the phone’s frame, thus in a way protecting it in case of falling on one of its edges.
On the top side of the phone there are connecting ports – a micro USB port (for charging, as well as PC and peripheral devices connection) and a 3.5mm audio connector for headphones.
On the right side there are buttons for sound control and turning the screen on and off. They are very sturdy, well responsive and have a distinguishable click, which makes us think they will endure usage for long period of time.
Microphone and speaker openings are on the bottom side of the phone. As far as sound is concerned, it is very loud and reproduced in satisfactory quality, so the phone can be clearly heard even if it is carried in its own case.
The biggest part of the front side is occupied by a 5.0” display. Even though there was available space for the control buttons to be on the screen itself, the manufacturer decided to place the capacitive buttons (Menu, Home and Back) below the screen. This is a better option for some users, since the entire screen is available at all times, while others will be asking why the buttons aren’t on the screen, since it will additionally make the phone smaller. Unfortunately, capacitive buttons aren’t backlit, which makes them hard to see and use in the dark.
Above the screen you can see the front 2Mpix camera, proximity and light sensors, as well as the speaker opening. In-call sound quality is clear and loud, even in the middle of the sound control bar.
The battery cover is smooth to the touch, but covered in rubber-like plastic in order to prevent slipping and allowing better handling of the phone. Perfectionists will be bothered by the fact that the phone will constantly be covered in finger prints, and so they will have to wipe it with a cloth regularly.
In the upper section of the phone there is a 5Mpix camera, not far from the flash LED. In addition, under that exact spot the Doogee logo is discretely, but clearly visible.
The battery cover is firmly attached to the front of the phone, so we advise careful removal so as not to damage the cover holders, although it is our opinion that they are flexible enough not to break quite so easily.
Upon cover removal you can see the blue 2400mAh battery, above which there are 2 SIM slots (both Micro-SIM sized), as well as the slot for a microSD memory card capacity up to 32GB. In order to access these slots, it is necessary to remove the battery from its setting.
The SIM slots are numbered 1 and 2, but that in no way determines which of the cards will be the primary one, since the user himself can choose which card to use for calling, messaging, surfing the mobile Internet (4G!), etc.
The phone’s surface looks impressive even though this is a budget phone. Yes, there are small traces of plastic injection near microUSB port opening and 3.5mm audio port, but it is barely noticeable and in no way diminishes the beauty of the phone. It is a pity that X5 Pro is missing the notification LED, since it would eliminate the need to turn the screen on in order to check for any missing calls or text messages.
Display​Doogee X5 Pro comes with IPS 5.0” display with 720p resolution (1280x720 pixels). This makes it a very good choice for a screen of this diagonal, because the pixel density is high enough so that the image is as clear as it can be expected although there are phones with much higher resolution on today’s market. We have secretly feared that colors would seem washed out while the visibility angles would be narrow, but that is not the case at all in X5 Pro. Color intensity is fairly good, whilst image rendition stays the same until viewing in extremely sharp angles. The manufacturer states that the phone comes with Gorilla Glass display protection, but it remains untested in that aspect.
Screen reacts to the touch very well and it’s responsive in 2 points at the same time, that’s enough for most uses, including playing games. The only problem we noticed it’s that it reacts a bit unprecise when fingers are too close to each other, that makes a pinch-to-zoom gesture a bit difficult.
Back lighting can be very intense, which makes the displayed content visible even in direct sun.
Software​What is interesting is that Doogee X5 Pro comes with Android 5.1 (Lollipop) OS, which means the phone is adorned with both good hardware and optimized software. Software appearance and its functions do not differ excessively from Google source code, although there are certain additional phone setting functions offering further possibilities.
Android 5.1 has finally brought dual SIM native support, so manufacturers have no need to create their own solution to the “problem” of selecting SIM cards in lie with each situation. When a SIM-using app is run (Dialer, Messaging, Hangouts, etc.), notification menu displays the possibility to choose which SIM card will be used at that point. It is also possible to predetermine the use for each card, further simplifying the entire process.
It is possible to turn on certain gestures to facilitate phone use, such as flipping the phone onto the screen in order to silence ringing, answering a call by lifting the phone a bit more quickly, or simply switching to speakerphone and back by bringing the phone closer to the ear.
What is more, the phone has the option of turning on with a double display touch (Double-tap to Wake), sliding down on the screen while turned off in order to quickly run the camera, or writing on the screen to run apps like dialer, Internet browser, Play store, messenger, etc.
The “Visitor mode” solves the problem many have been dealing with since the appearance of mobile phones – denying access to certain parts of the phone. By activating this particular mode, you can hide call lists, SMS messages, pictures and disable modification of main screens on the phone. This is an excellent option to activate before lending your phone to a friend. However, in order to turn this option on and off, you need to enter your PIN.
Similar effect can be achieved by means of “AppLock” app, which does exactly what its name indicates – locks apps, and provides access upon entering the PIN.
Moreover, the proximity sensor also has certain phone management functions. By waving your hand above the sensor, you can scroll pictures, shuffle songs, take photos, change pages in launcher, unlock the phone and answer a call. As to how smart of an idea this is, we will let you decide.
More advanced users will like the built-in option of controlling app permissions (Permission Manager), which means that any app can be simply revoked the permission to dial, send messages, read location, access contacts, use camera, etc.
All in all, Doogee X5 Pro has left a favorable impression as far as OS and additional apps are concerned. Thanks to Android 5.1 OS, animations are beautiful and fluid, transition between apps is fast (for which large RAM memory can be credited, 2GB) and there wasn’t even an instance of unexplainable lag. With basic preinstalled apps installed, only 500MB RAM is occupied, thus leaving a lot of space for installing and multitasking between large numbers of apps.
Camera​As previously stated, Doogee X5 Pro on its back has a 5Mpix camera (interpolated to 8Mpix) with very limited possibilities, while on the front it carries a 2.0Mpix camera for video chats.
The 5Mpix camera has autofocus, LED flash and makes 2560x1920 pixel pictures without interpolation.
Camera sensor possibilities are quite poor. While colors are good in the daylight, it lacks detail even while taking photos with a steady hand. Photos seem good on the screen, but when zoomed to their original size, there is a visible lack of sharpness and “oil-on-canvass” effect. Photos of closer objects are satisfactory in sharpness, but most landscapes make you want to give up the sport. This is quite a shame, since the camera software has interesting options such as automatic photographing by lifting 2 fingers in the shot, automatized following of an object and taking its picture, recording “live” (making a 5-second long video with a photographing effect) and the Face beauty mode, which removes skin imperfections and makes you more pretty (the fare sex loves this option in Samsung phones).
Photo samples:
Battery Life​Doogee X5 Pro comes with a 2400mAh battery, which is enough capacity to allow the phone one-day autonomy with more intensive use. Seeing how the processor is economical and works on lower frequency, battery consumption is moderate. We have measured its autonomy by inserting 2 SIM cards into the phone (one in the 3G/4G mode and the other in the 2G mode) and running synthetic tests, making a few shorter phone calls (about 20 minutes in total), taking pictures outside for about an hour and a half (during which time mobile Internet was active), testing its speed of access to the 4G network, and then surfing the Internet using WiFi connection.
During all that, the screen was on for 4 hours and 30 minutes, while the phone was off the charger for 30 hours! We believe this to be an excellent score considering all this phone’s features.
Performance​Doogee X5 Pro is based on MediaTek MT6735 64-bit chipset which is increasingly present in lower-middle class models. MT6735 has a Quad-Core processor at 1GHz (988MHz, to be more precise), Mali-T720 graphic chip and 2GB of built-in RAM memory.
The processor is probably intentionally limited to lower frequency instead its maximum (1.3GHz) in order to provide a better battery autonomy, since it has proven to be quite economical and still powerful enough for most users’ needs. Judging by synthetic tests, MT6735 chipset at 1GHz frequency performs in the rank of Snapdragon 400 chipset and its Quad-Core processor, which is an excellent trait considering the price of X5 Pro phone.
It also has built-in USB OTG option, so it is possible to connect USB flash drive or USB mouse or keyboard directly to the phone using USB OTG adapter.
Obtaining GPS location on this phone is quick and precise, since it easily finds a large number of satellites and connects to most of them in 30 seconds. Therefore, it can definitely be used as GPS navigation with matching navigation software.
Benchmark tests results:
Conclusion​Doogee X5 Pro is a smart phone which has suddenly appeared on the market and attracted a lot of attention with its surreal hardware for a good price. Its IPS display with wide visibility angles and quality rendition will allow undisturbed use in all conditions, while its work speed will satisfy all less and moderately demanding users. If you want an affordable smartphone and you can look past a few smaller cons, there is no reason to be apprehensive – you should definitely take the X5 Pro model into consideration as best buy in the lower price range!
Pros:
Good quality display
Fast response
4G LTE support
Powerful speaker
Cons:
No notification LED
Capacitive buttons unlit
No gyroscope and g-sensor
Once more, big thanks to Pandawill for providing a sample device for testing.
Author: Stevan Stevanović
DOOGEE X5 Pro Smartphone Unboxing & Hands-on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbfOhhMnCoM
Great review, thanks.
Could it be possible to overclock the CPU to 1.3 GHz when the device is rooted?
I saw one review (here) that had an Antutu benchmark of around 30000. It is an early review (August 30th), so perhaps it was an early demo phone that was clocked higher?
You're welcome.
I think it can't be overclocked. Not with the stock kernel, anyway. To phone runs cool, even with the maximum CPU load (about 30C), so I do think the CPU has potential to withstand OC to ~1.2GHz, but there isn't a way at the moment.
As I detailed in this now closed thread, I am unable to get this phone to operate at anything faster than 2G network speeds. The specs of this phone would appear to keep it out of the 4G (or even 3G) range for AT&T in the USA, and indeed, most every other USA carrier I'm aware of. Such a sadness because this is really a nice phone at such a good price.
Excellent phone
Ive had this phone for about 3 weeks now.
Its an awesome phone for the money.
Im not a fan of how branded companies charge huge profit margins like HTC and samsung.
This phone has all I need.
It has 3G and 4G LTE which work great in my country (New Zealand).
In fact the antenna is very strong compared to my old samsung.
The camera is fine for me at 5MP, the autofocus works well and ive been able to take some really nice pics, better than the ones in the review above. Closeups are excellent. If you hold down the shutter button you get something like 6 to 7 shots per second which are then saved as a progression of pics that are then viewable in gallery as a kind of gif animation with each frame been able to be used as a photo. Theres tons of features built in. I really like that no tweaking is needed out of the box.
I installed Hola launcher as I just like its style, its faster than stock launcher and organizes apps into easy folders and it has built in weather and intuitive interface that works really well with this phone.
Ive always bought phones with hardware buttons. I cant stand phones with on screen buttons. It just takes away from everything.
So much nicer having real buttons.
Im happy there is no notification LED. This used to annoy me on my samsung and my smart 4 especially at night time I dont like any flashing LEDS in my room when im sleeping.
Double tap to wake up is nice and also useful when i have it on my car bracket.
Only cons so far are that OTG doesnt seem to work currently. Im guessing the phone needs to be rooted to use that feature and as others have noted there doesnt appear to be an easy root method as yet.
its a shame it doesnt have gyro because my google cardboard isnt much use, but i guess i can still watch 3d movies with it.
Hey.. good news.. looks like KIngroot have updated their app because I just opened kingroot and it says 92 requests received and a strategy is been worked out, which is better than last week. I will try to root manually anyway today. Id really like OTG access.
awakekiwi said:
Only cons so far are that OTG doesnt seem to work currently. Im guessing the phone needs to be rooted to use that feature and as others have noted there doesnt appear to be an easy root method as yet.
its a shame it doesnt have gyro because my google cardboard isnt much use, but i guess i can still watch 3d movies with it.
Hey.. good news.. looks like KIngroot have updated their app because I just opened kingroot and it says 92 requests received and a strategy is been worked out, which is better than last week. I will try to root manually anyway today. Id really like OTG access.
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OTG works fine for me. I'm just using a bog-standard OTG adapter and a FAT32-formatted USB thumbdrive.
I'm still looking forward to a working root though.
Tonto87 said:
OTG works fine for me. I'm just using a bog-standard OTG adapter and a FAT32-formatted USB thumbdrive.
I'm still looking forward to a working root though.
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Ok maybe my home made OTG cable is the problem.. i just used my data cable with a female to female adaptor on the end.. mayb e that doesnt actually work?
[FIXED] used a correct OTG cable and its all working great! no need to root this phone for any reason now!
I don't know why the rooting thread has been locked, but rooting and installing TWRP is really easy:
Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63173937&postcount=9
Download TWRP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63232390&postcount=26
Flash TWRP recovery (step 3 onwards): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63263496&postcount=39
I used Rashr to flash TWRP recovery.
Woof
Doesn't work if you have already updated via wireless update.
Phone won't accept the update.zip I you've updated already.
Only via factory reset first. That's our problem.
I stick with a R5 because of rooting problems above that Version.
Ok
OK good to know.. Don't need root at this stage as otg is working now.. Phones still fast so no major advnatge to root for me at present..
awakekiwi said:
Doesn't work if you have already updated via wireless update.
Phone won't accept the update.zip I you've updated already.
Only via factory reset first. That's our problem.
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Really?
I'm on DOOGEE-X5pro-Android5.1-R08-2015.10.26 and root worked fine.
I had two updates applied from when I received my phone.
Good news, did you had to root again after update?
I rooted for the first time after applying all the updates. Only recently made sense of the rooting thread! Don't know if it'll create problems if there's another update, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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ok thanks maybe i will try again...
Tonto87 said:
I rooted for the first time after applying all the updates. Only recently made sense of the rooting thread! Don't know if it'll create problems if there's another update, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
Sent from my X5pro using Tapatalk
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How did you do to root?
I have R08-2015.10.26 but I am unable to root (install supersu)
I followed the procedure of wireless update → select update.zip and click ok. When the phone reboot, it start the install but stops and show "error".
smshare said:
How did you do to root?
I have R08-2015.10.26 but I am unable to root (install supersu)
I followed the procedure of wireless update → select update.zip and click ok. When the phone reboot, it start the install but stops and show "error".
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See the method in a previous post in this thread. I don't know why you get an error. Did you follow the method to the letter and use the SuperSU from the Mega link?
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yep
yepn same problem for me.. used mega link file and it just says error a third of the way through.. seems a common problem for some users...
Tonto87 said:
See the method in a previous post in this thread. I don't know why you get an error. Did you follow the method to the letter and use the SuperSU from the Mega link?
Sent from my X5pro using Tapatalk
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Experience with phone. / What do you HATE?

so i am curious ... share your expeience thus far with the zenfone2 as well as tell us what do you guys hate most about it?
i just picked up a new shiny zenfone 2, the 4G/32G model, Z00A/ZE551ML model for $270.
of course right off the bat i unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, and installed TWRP. after which i put on a custom ROM ... i am still messing between BlissPop and Resurrection-Remix. Both are based on Cyanogenmod and are great with customization options. especially the fact that i can change my DPI to 400 and everything looks so beautiful. if you change to one of them make sure you pick a DARK theme. Darker themes charge the battery less.
So now what do i hate about my phone?
Well, this is a tough one. Its nice that we have top of the line hardware and such however the CPU being an Atom/x86 maybe our loved/hated part. ya its quick but the device gets hot quite often.
Then we have a minor issue that i am hating. I wish the capacitive buttons were on-screen instead of being static as they are now. The line separator between the screen and the buttons also tends to pickup dirt quite frequently and you have dirt stuck there.
I also dislike the curvy back although it makes it easy to hold it is not flat when put on a table ...
please share....
I hate camera battery and the design
My hates for this phone (ZE551ML Z00A 4GB/64GB Z3580)
On stock software:
SMS issues, workarounds are unacceptable to me
Still Android 5.0.0
On CM based ROMS:
Bluetooth audio lag and random failures until restart
Hardware:
Camera is useless in anything but bright sunlight.
Power save controls could be more fine-grained.
cylent said:
so i am curious ... share your expeience thus far with the zenfone2 as well as tell us what do you guys hate most about it?
i just picked up a new shiny zenfone 2, the 4G/32G model, Z00A/ZE551ML model for $270.
of course right off the bat i unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, and installed TWRP. after which i put on a custom ROM ... i am still messing between BlissPop and Resurrection-Remix. Both are based on Cyanogenmod and are great with customization options. especially the fact that i can change my DPI to 400 and everything looks so beautiful. if you change to one of them make sure you pick a DARK theme. Darker themes charge the battery less.
So now what do i hate about my phone?
Well, this is a tough one. Its nice that we have top of the line hardware and such however the CPU being an Atom/x86 maybe our loved/hated part. ya its quick but the device gets hot quite often.
Then we have a minor issue that i am hating. I wish the capacitive buttons were on-screen instead of being static as they are now. The line separator between the screen and the buttons also tends to pickup dirt quite frequently and you have dirt stuck there.
I also dislike the curvy back although it makes it easy to hold it is not flat when put on a table ...
please share....
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You can enable on screen buttons. Check in the themes and apps section.
Some cases make the back of the phone flat, check on eBay for those.
cnsngr said:
I hate camera battery and the design
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to be honest i never understand why people rely on the camera in a phone. i never have. i take it for what it is. crap. if it is a good camera then great. if not then oh well.
cmendonc2 said:
You can enable on screen buttons. Check in the themes and apps section.
Some cases make the back of the phone flat, check on eBay for those.
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i dont want to enable them. i know how to do so. it would take up screen space that is needed. its not like this is a 7" inch screen. ...
cylent said:
to be honest i never understand why people rely on the camera in a phone. i never have. i take it for what it is. crap. if it is a good camera then great. if not then oh well.
i dont want to enable them. i know how to do so. it would take up screen space that is needed. its not like this is a 7" inch screen. ...
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what should i rely on taking pictures in my daily life should i buy an dslr instead and use it daily and keep it where ever i go of course people gonna rely on phones for taking pictures, they can fix it and they can start with raw support
cylent said:
to be honest i never understand why people rely on the camera in a phone. i never have. i take it for what it is. crap. if it is a good camera then great. if not then oh well.
i dont want to enable them. i know how to do so. it would take up screen space that is needed. its not like this is a 7" inch screen. ...
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No, its a 5.5" screen the same size as my Note Edge... If it had on screen buttons then they would take up the same real estate that they would on my edge if I wanted them...
Don't know how you can whinge about not having them then saying it would take up prime real real estate on the screen when every other 5.5" screen phone that has these onscreen keys is the same size screen...
cnsngr said:
what should i rely on taking pictures in my daily life should i buy an dslr instead and use it daily and keep it where ever i go of course people gonna rely on phones for taking pictures, they can fix it and they can start with raw support
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i think you're missing the part where it says "Smartphone" not "Smartcamera".
This is primarily a phone with a camera added to it.
if you really want a phone with a good camera you can try the Samsung Galaxy Camera 2
cylent said:
i think you're missing the part where it says "Smartphone" not "Smartcamera".
This is primarily a phone with a camera added to it.
if you really want a phone with a good camera you can try the Samsung Galaxy Camera 2
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Im not missing any part mate, it is a bad camera and i rely on my phone for taking pictures in my daily life its not that hard, im not expecting dslr quality ofc, but i dont white that noisy white dots to
cnsngr said:
what should i rely on taking pictures in my daily life should i buy an dslr instead and use it daily and keep it where ever i go of course people gonna rely on phones for taking pictures, they can fix it and they can start with raw support
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Tips for Taking a Fashion Shot - ZenFone | ASUS
To be honest for the most part I've enjoyed using this phone. I have the 4GB RAM/32GB internal storage North American model and it's been decent so far. I came from a Nexus 4 that I had for about 2.5 years and switched to this phone when it came out in North America in late May. I don't mod a lot, I've only rooted (so I can run stuff like Adaway, Cerberus Anti-Theft, and Xposed Framework) and that's it. I've considered unlocking my bootloader to get a permanent custom recovery (which I did with the Nexus 4) but I can live with a tethered recovery (just so I can flash a zip when needed) if I wanna be able to have an OTA update without issue. Yes, I know you can just flash new firmware updates without just waiting for an OTA update but I'd rather just let the OTA hit.
As others have said, the camera is kinda crappy but I don't really take a lot of photos in general so it's not a big deal breaker for me. Yes there's a lot of bloatware but I've just disabled stuff I don't use either via settings or a 3rd party app. The phone is a tad bit on the heavy side but that's just minor griping. The regular firmware updates have been nice though I'm still waiting for them to push Android version 5.1 even (though they have at least confirmed Marshmallow for the Zenfone2 so that's a good sign).
cylent said:
Tips for Taking a Fashion Shot - ZenFone | ASUS
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Well that 20 second video helped me very well thank you so much its awesome now
great phone
but bad battery life :crying:
horrible battery
I hate missing backlight back/menu/central buttons... And missing support of USB 3&HDMI&h265/HEVC hardware video codec acceleration for decoding/encoding.
If ASUS resolve it on Zenfone 3, he will be mine ! (Except if a equivalent smartphone upcoming with physical Keyboard)
Want this keyboard on Zenfone !!! :
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Well... Missing accessory, so native hardware... Dreaming.
you get what you pay for.
i paid $270 dollars for the 32G/3GigRam unit.
you can always use onscreen navigation bar ...
Battery life & screen not bright enough under sunlight (using lux light app helped cranking up the brightness a bit more). Oh, and I HATE where they placed the speaker!
I almost pulled the trigger on a galaxy note 5 dual sim this past weekend, but I've decided to wait a bit and see what's coming in the next few months, the note 5 is missing too many features.
Camera seems fine, I've taking some very nice pictures using manual settings, but I hated this phone when I was in Orlando while shooting video in the afternoon where it was hot outside (late October). The phone kept on recording at a very low framerate and it didn't even save the videos for some reason.
I'd say the things I hate about this device are the small details.
The fact that the led has only 3 colors and cannot be customized;
The horrible audio jack (even for a smartphone standard);
Battery life is an issue, but can be fixed (Project T kernel was a life saver in stock kernel, still looking what I can do in CM based ROMs);
The compatibility issues we have due to the x86 architecture.
I do love this phone, but sometimes these things really annoy me.
After coming from a Xiaomi mi3w I just have to say so far this phone is pretty amazing. I don't ever use the camera so the camera is better than I need it to be for the few times I use it a year. The battery problems I see everybody complaining about baffles me as I own 3 mid range priced phones and this 1 has close to the best battery life with similar usage.
Xiaomi mi3w: 4-5 hrs sot with 1 day uptime
2nd most expensive device
ASUS ZenFone 2: 5.5-6 hrs sot with 1 day uptime
cheapest device
oneplus two: 5.5-6.5 hrs sot with 1 day uptime
most expensive device
The things that annoy me are
1. Asus has poor rom development for keeping you updated.
2. Horrible place to put a speaker.
3. Hardware keys can not be swapped and I'm use to my back button on the right and my menu button I the left.
4. You can't reassign functions to the hardware keys. They should also be backlit.
5. They don't use any type of hotplug to unplug cores with 0 zero load to save to power.
6. Glitches in their keyboard while typing sometimes taking me back to previous paragraphs or the last typed words if I try and correct a mistake made earlier. Just a buggy keyboard in general.
7. Micro stutters in certain apps like browser and tapatalk due to an inefficient kernel or os.
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I only hate the battery and the issue that you can´t change the sms ringhtone.

UMI Touch (Real Reviews/User Tests, Discussion) 5.5" FHD, Frontfingerprint Scanner

UMI Touch (Real Reviews/User Tests, Discussion) 5.5" FHD, Frontfingerprint Scanner
Hi guys, here's a thread for real user videos/tests/unboxings and discussion.
I suggest we keep alll kind of official UMI commerical, deals out of this thread. So no UMI created pictures or videos. Only real material from users!
Because there is a big difference from what is real and what is pure commercial. Not always these two things stick together....
Real Unboxing & First look at the UMI Touch
Quick Review / Extra tests
10 Pros & Cons about the UMI Touch, is it worth it?
More real UMI reviews/tests/unboxings/handson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpiO0HjeOjI (Chinamobilemag)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdlcqfNfz4s (Redskull)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVA-NXcIXc0 (mayiandjay)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OT86neHCqM (TechMagnet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMhx34Mk1fI (Italian Language / Massimo G / megthebest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZLIYQfAfY (Geek Love)
Camera samples:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bukdfcua10eok/UMI_Touch_Camera_Samples
TWRP 3.0.2 by jemmini
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66369781&postcount=68
Stagefright vulnerability:
No, tested at 17/4 2016 with v3.03-20160409
AnTuTu 6.0.1 score:
38050
Androbench Storage benchmark:
SEQ Read: 211 MB/s (that is fast)
Multitouch points:
5 points supported
Youtube app:
Can play videos in 1080p FHD
Sensors:
Gyroscope sensor: No reaction in sensorbox
Orientation sensor: No reaction in sensorbox
Accelerometer sensor: Yes, will work in games when you tilt the device
OTA Update released:
v3.03-20160409 (fixes the camera a bit, optimizes the fingerprint scanner, changes 21MP to 13MP in the settings).
Similar design?
Many say that the UMI Touch look like the Meizu M3 note or Meizu MX5. What do you think?
Other ROMS?
UMI have posted some pictures of the UMI Touch running Windows phone 10, but so far only pictures.
So until we see a real rom this is still unconfirmed.
How is the gaming performance?:
I would say in the middle, average. Not super but also not totally bad.
Video recording test by Massimo G (this with the old/first firmware!)
Official specifications:
- 5.5" 2.5D LCD screen, FHD 1920*1080 pixels
- MiraVision support
- MTK6753 1.3 GHz octa core
- Metall Unibody / CNC metal
- Touch buttons with backlight
- Smart wake & gestures
- Front fingerprint scanner
- Front LED flash
- Supports Touch ID (wake & unlock with 1 touch)
- 3GB of RAM + 16GB Rom
- 13MP Sony IMX main camera + 5MP front camera
- 4000mAh battery
- Android 6.0 system / OS
- Multilanguage & comes with Play Store
- Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, WCDMA 900/2100 MHz, FDD-LTE B3/B7/B20
- Supports 2G & 3G & 4G LTE network
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Hi, did you get the device??? did you manage to root and flash new rom on this phone?
X61 said:
Here is another review of UMi Touch with lots of screenshots, benchmarks, display and audio tests, camera samples, etc:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/865b6
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Thanks, that is a very comprehensive review!
PetaX8 said:
Hi, did you get the device??? did you manage to root and flash new rom on this phone?
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I don't think there are other ROMs out yet for the phone.
Did someone manage to get GravityBox working?
UPDATED:
Hi everybody,
Well It's been already a week with this device, so I think I have already some experience with it, so I can give some feedback:
Despite that the HW in this phone seems to be quite acceptable, there are some problems with the SW, which makes the user experience not as good as it should be. But I have to say that the telephone is perfectly usable for everyday use (at least for my use), the most common problems, are the one which are written here after:
1- The battery is named as 4000mAh, but I have to say that the battery is bad managed and it's not showing the expected life for this capacity. Yesterday the issue a new FOTA update V3.03-20160423, in which they promise to fix this. At the moment it shows some improvement, but I cannot say since I did not have time to really test it.
UPDATED: Well after some testing, it seems that it behaves even worse than before, unfortunately, check post 14:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66721589&postcount=14
2- The screen; well this is one of the bigger problems, they are appearing (to majority of users) some white stains in the screen; in the official web page they mentioned that it was caused by some defects in the screen manufacturing process and UMI said that screens were glued incorrectly but they also stated that they corrected this problem in the following batches of the UMI Touch and offered to be helping in the process for getting a replacement. But in my opinion, there are not completely transparent here, in the official forum they were constantly deleting the posts where this problem was mentioned; and for me it is very interesting that everybody who has this problem, they have the white spots in exactly the same place on the screen (burnt screen because of bad IC dissipation ? )
Anyway here under you have an example of the white dots:
3- The touch sensitivity is not good, sometimes for writing texts and so can be a bit annoying, but definitely they have to tune this too.
4- Attention there is NO Notification LED anyway there is some discussion about using the soft buttons as notification leds, let's see if UMI hears the users....
5- The WIFI, at the moment for me the wifi is quite unstable, the signal strength is quite poor if we compare with other devices, as for example Redmi2; I guess this is something they should continue improving by software.
6- The accessories included (the adapter and cable) are the worst quality ever, the cable it broke after the second time I plugged (literally ) , and the adapter I was afraid to use since it was reported for many Forum users that it started to smoke and stink until they stop working. At least one person in the Forum complained that after the incident something happen with his/her mobile. So better don't use the included adapter & cable!, better safe than sorry.
7- The camera should be good quality, but it showed some lag when capturing pictures, for example if capturing with HDR and there is some subject which was moving there will be "ghosts" in the picture. It suppose to be fixed from the yesterday's FOTA, but I did not try it yet.
8- There were some people also mentioning that the GPS was not accurate and so, from my experience from the last weekend, I have to say that it wasn't that bad, actually Google Maps was the only one not so accurate, I was using HERE and WAZE and no problem.
Conclusion: It seems to be good hardware phone, but they are a few problemsuntil they polish a bit more the software I would not recommend it to buy, it seems that they are in a good way for fixing the problems (they release quite often the FOTAs) but still I would give more time to see how UMI behaves..
I hope it is useful at least for anybody
Cheers
car.cuevas said:
Hi everybody,
Well It's already a week with this device, so I think I have already some experience with it, so I can give some feedback:
Despite that the HW in this phone seems to be quite acceptable, there are some problems with the SW, which makes the user experience not as good as it should be. But I have to say that the telephone is perfectly usable for everyday use (at least for my use), but there are a few problems which I am going to mention here:
1- The battery is named as 4000mAh, but I have to say that the battery is bad managed and it's not showing the expected life for this capacity. Yesterday the issue a new FOTA update V3.03-20160423, in which they promise to fix this. At the moment it shows some improvement, but I cannot say since I did not have time to really test it.
2- The screen; well this is one of the bigger problems, they are appearing (to majority of users) some white stains in the screen; in the official web page they are mentioned that it was caused by some defective in the manufacturing process of the screens and UMI stated that screens were glued incorrectly and also they stated that they corrected this problem in the following batches of the UMI Touch and offered to be helping in the process for getting a replacement. But in my opinion, there are not completely transparent here, in the official forum they were constantly deleting the posts where this problem was mentioned; and for me it is interesting than everybody who has this problem, it is in exactly the same place on the screen (burnt screen because of bad IC dissipation ? )
Anyway here under you have an example of the white dots:
3- The touch sensitivity is not good, sometimes for writing texts and so can be a bit annoying, but definitely they have to tune this too.
4- Attention there is NO Notification LED anyway there is some discussion about using the soft buttons as notification leds, let's see if UMI hears the users....
5- The WIFI, at the moment for me the wifi is quite unstable, the signal strength is quite poor if we compare with other devices, as for example Redmi2; I guess this is something they should continue improving by software.
6- The accessories included (the adapter and cable) are the worst quality ever, the cable it broke after the second time I plugged (literally ) , and the adapter I was afraid to use since it was reported for many Forum users that it started to smoke and stink until they stop working. At least one person in the Forum complained that after the incident something happen with his/her mobile. So better don't use the included adapter & cable!, better safe than sorry.
7- The camera should be good quality, but it showed some lag when capturing pictures, for example if capturing with HDR and there is some subject which was moving there will be "ghosts" in the picture. It suppose to be fixed from the yesterday's FOTA, but I did not try it yet.
8- There were some people also mentioning that the GPS was not accurate and so, from my experience from the last weekend, I have to say that it wasn't that bad, actually Google Maps was the only one not so accurate, I was using HERE and WAZE and no problem.
Conclusion: It seems to be good hardware phone, but they are a few problemsuntil they polish a bit more the software I would not recommend it to buy, it seems that they are in a good way for fixing the problems (they release quite often the FOTAs) but still I would give more time to see how UMI behaves..
I hope it is useful at least for anybody
Cheers
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1- With the new OTA update. I get about 2days of battery lifetime on regular usage. 4000 mah seems realistic to me.
2- I don't have any clouding, at least until now.
3- Agree.
4- Would be really nice. On the Elephone P8000, the menu led is also used as notification led. UMI make it happen...
7- I did not test HDR yet but I think the camera is quite ok. Not as good as in the Letv X600, even if it's the same sensor but better than the Elephone P8000, which sometimes was horrible to make photos with.
I have also checked mine for clouding but have none. Even if I set lowest or highest brightness, there are no white spots like the one I have seen from other users. Seems to be a bad batch out. But mine is a pretty early version, or I'm just lucky.
If the test says 3600mAh it can't get to 4000mAh even with software updates.
Walter H. said:
If the test says 3600mAh it can't get to 4000mAh even with software updates.
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Have you tested it yourself? 3600mah seems pretty low. Keep in mind that smartphone batteries always have a tolerance of about 300 mah.
Gerrit507 said:
Have you tested it yourself? 3600mah seems pretty low. Keep in mind that smartphone batteries always have a tolerance of about 300 mah.
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God help me, no.
S7yler tested it in his video and it gave him around 3600mAh, the 300mAh tolerance theory is BS imo.
Walter H. said:
God help me, no.
S7yler tested it in his video and it gave him around 3600mAh, the 300mAh tolerance theory is BS imo.
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Well, every battery is different... It doesn't mean yours is also 3600mah. And no the theory is not BS, it's just true or do you think theres a machine which is spitting out perfect batteries with exactly 4000 mah ?
Gerrit507 said:
Well, every battery is different... It doesn't mean yours is also 3600mah. And no the theory is not BS, it's just true or do you think theres a machine which is spitting out perfect batteries with exactly 4000 mah ?
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Well actually I did not test now the real capacity of the battery, but what I can say that the battery drain when the telephone is idle still there and even worse than before :S
Gerrit507 said:
Well, every battery is different... It doesn't mean yours is also 3600mah. And no the theory is not BS, it's just true or do you think theres a machine which is spitting out perfect batteries with exactly 4000 mah ?
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Is this a serious question? Of course yes, or do you think batteries are made of pasta? The machine takes same components and puts them together.
Said that, different values are possible, but not as much as you say, 100mAh tolerance would be acceptable but not more than that.
300mAh tolerance would be fine in a 10000mAh battery or more, but we're talking about 4000mAh and 300mAh is almost the 10%.
Even agreeing with the 300mAh tolerance, this battery is 400mAh less than declared!
Watch out this latest review guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0_kEgwQUs
It's UMI Rome...
mukulsoni said:
Watch out this latest review guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0_kEgwQUs
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Gerrit507 said:
It's UMI Rome...
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Man, what are you talking about? It's definitely an UMI Touch.
Anyone tried Xposed on this phone? The framework installs fine and even shows as active in the Installer but modules simply don't work, even when activated properly.
For example, GravityBox [MM] simply waits a few seconds for a response from the framework and then closes because no response was received. No other modules that I've tried work either.
Had read on the UMI forum that other people have had the same problem also.
Anyone manage to get it working? Even if we could just get GravityBox to work, I'd be over the moon with the phone.
White stains on the screen!!! And I read that there are a lot of customers complaining about this! Shameful, for a flagship phone!...
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car.cuevas said:
UPDATED:
Hi everybody,
Well It's been already a week with this device, so I think I have already some experience with it, so I can give some feedback:
Despite that the HW in this phone seems to be quite acceptable, there are some problems with the SW, which makes the user experience not as good as it should be. But I have to say that the telephone is perfectly usable for everyday use (at least for my use), the most common problems, are the one which are written here after:
1- The battery is named as 4000mAh, but I have to say that the battery is bad managed and it's not showing the expected life for this capacity. Yesterday the issue a new FOTA update V3.03-20160423, in which they promise to fix this. At the moment it shows some improvement, but I cannot say since I did not have time to really test it.
UPDATED: Well after some testing, it seems that it behaves even worse than before, unfortunately, check post 14:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66721589&postcount=14
2- The screen; well this is one of the bigger problems, they are appearing (to majority of users) some white stains in the screen; in the official web page they mentioned that it was caused by some defects in the screen manufacturing process and UMI said that screens were glued incorrectly but they also stated that they corrected this problem in the following batches of the UMI Touch and offered to be helping in the process for getting a replacement. But in my opinion, there are not completely transparent here, in the official forum they were constantly deleting the posts where this problem was mentioned; and for me it is very interesting that everybody who has this problem, they have the white spots in exactly the same place on the screen (burnt screen because of bad IC dissipation ? )
Anyway here under you have an example of the white dots:
3- The touch sensitivity is not good, sometimes for writing texts and so can be a bit annoying, but definitely they have to tune this too.
4- Attention there is NO Notification LED anyway there is some discussion about using the soft buttons as notification leds, let's see if UMI hears the users....
5- The WIFI, at the moment for me the wifi is quite unstable, the signal strength is quite poor if we compare with other devices, as for example Redmi2; I guess this is something they should continue improving by software.
6- The accessories included (the adapter and cable) are the worst quality ever, the cable it broke after the second time I plugged (literally ) , and the adapter I was afraid to use since it was reported for many Forum users that it started to smoke and stink until they stop working. At least one person in the Forum complained that after the incident something happen with his/her mobile. So better don't use the included adapter & cable!, better safe than sorry.
7- The camera should be good quality, but it showed some lag when capturing pictures, for example if capturing with HDR and there is some subject which was moving there will be "ghosts" in the picture. It suppose to be fixed from the yesterday's FOTA, but I did not try it yet.
8- There were some people also mentioning that the GPS was not accurate and so, from my experience from the last weekend, I have to say that it wasn't that bad, actually Google Maps was the only one not so accurate, I was using HERE and WAZE and no problem.
Conclusion: It seems to be good hardware phone, but they are a few problemsuntil they polish a bit more the software I would not recommend it to buy, it seems that they are in a good way for fixing the problems (they release quite often the FOTAs) but still I would give more time to see how UMI behaves..
I hope it is useful at least for anybody
Cheers
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Yes, there are some problems need to be improved by software, UMi still spending much time developing the ROMs for its new devices. They have release four FOTA, since they released the UMI Touch.
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luciousl said:
Is this a serious question? Of course yes, or do you think batteries are made of pasta? The machine takes same components and puts them together.
Said that, different values are possible, but not as much as you say, 100mAh tolerance would be acceptable but not more than that.
300mAh tolerance would be fine in a 10000mAh battery or more, but we're talking about 4000mAh and 300mAh is almost the 10%.
Even agreeing with the 300mAh tolerance, this battery is 400mAh less than declared!
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I can use my phone at least two days, I think that's enough for me.

Hows your Nubia Z11 experience so far?

hey guys,
i am planning to buy a new phone, i am confused between the Oneplus 3T and Nubia Z11
they are priced the same in India
i kinda like the design of the Nubia Z11 and the fact that it has bezel less display and IR sensor.
But i dont know if the phone has hardware/software issues.
Hows your experience so far with the phone?
Is it worth considering this phone?
thanks in advance!
Evil Eye said:
hey guys,
i am planning to buy a new phone, i am confused between the Oneplus 3T and Nubia Z11
they are priced the same in India
i kinda like the design of the Nubia Z11 and the fact that it has bezel less display and IR sensor.
But i dont know if the phone has hardware/software issues.
Hows your experience so far with the phone?
Is it worth considering this phone?
thanks in advance!
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Both of them are great phones but I would choose nubia because of IPS screen, i have bad experience with AMOLED.
The main issues are the NFC (completely not working) and quick charge (international ROM-only 2 Amps input).
I have Nubia Z11. Hardware difference is almost not important for these 2 models. At least for me. Because they are both powerful devices. I do not have any hardware issue. I don't know if Oneplus get andrid 7 update but as i know Nubia is not going to have soon. Both phone has nice UI with practical gestures. One plus has better fast charge performance, but fast charge shortens the life of the battery.
If i were you i would choose Z11 because of it's design, camere without a bump and bezelless screen.
I tested my nubia Z11 with quickcharge 2.0 charger. Phone has 1.54 latest Chinese rom. Unfortunately phone does not get quick charge. It takes only 5V 1.45 A. So Nubia Z11 doesn't support real quickcharge. I asked to Nubia about this. I'll post the answer here.
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TeslaTR said:
I tested my nubia Z11 with quickcharge 2.0 charger. Phone has 1.54 latest Chinese rom. Unfortunately phone does not get quick charge. It takes only 5V 1.45 A. So Nubia Z11 doesn't support real quickcharge. I asked to Nubia about this. I'll post the answer here.
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5V 1.45A is for basic, non quick charge charges.
I have replied to you post in root/xposed thread. Quick charge is supported, but it is very limited to only 9 W of charging power. Some values: 9V 1A (ZTE QC2.0 charger), 6.2V 1.49A (nubia original charger), 6V 1.6A (LeEco QC3.0. 24 W charger).
Tested on two International Z11's with v1. 15 rom.
Tested with keweisi charger doctor.
I had 9V 1.5A on my previous device ZTE AXON Elite on all chargers.
thanks for the suggestion guys @martas.vavra @TeslaTR
i bought the Nubia Z11 and it got delivered today by Amazon India
i had a query, how fast does your phone charge with the stock charger? mine is charging at a speed of 30% per hour with display off and utorrent active in the background. is it the same for you guys? does background downloading slow down the charging speed?
how fast does your phone charge to full?
thanks in advance!
Evil Eye said:
thanks for the suggestion guys @martas.vavra @TeslaTR
i bought the Nubia Z11 and it got delivered today by Amazon India
i had a query, how fast does your phone charge with the stock charger? mine is charging at a speed of 30% per hour with display off and utorrent active in the background. is it the same for you guys? does background downloading slow down the charging speed?
how fast does your phone charge to full?
thanks in advance!
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Mine - 30 min charging 20 % - 52 %
Keep you phone cold while charging. Also download app 3c battery monitor to measure charging current.
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martas.vavra said:
Mine - 30 min charging 20 % - 52 %
Keep you phone cold while charging. Also download app 3c battery monitor to measure charging current.
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Okay i will try that and report back. Also i would like to know how good is the frequency of updates by Nubia, be it big or small updates?
Thanks.
Evil Eye said:
Okay i will try that and report back. Also i would like to know how good is the frequency of updates by Nubia, be it big or small updates?
Thanks.
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I think that it is like one update per month.
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TeslaTR said:
I tested my nubia Z11 with quickcharge 2.0 charger. Phone has 1.54 latest Chinese rom. Unfortunately phone does not get quick charge. It takes only 5V 1.45 A. So Nubia Z11 doesn't support real quickcharge. I asked to Nubia about this. I'll post the answer here.
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Did nubia reply to your charging time query?
Yes, they replied. As the fact that my voltage test device doesn't support fast charge. I bought a new one. I'll test with it when it comes.
This is the reply of Nubia:
"Hi,
Christmas grettings!!
Please kindly know the following points.
1) The quick charge won't activate when the power is shotage or over 90%.
2) Please dial *#8604# command and enter Charger test, notice that USB_HVDCP_3(QC3.0), USB_HVDCP(QC2.0), USB_DCP(quick charge doesn't activate)
3) The way you are using to test quick charge figure is not accurate(a circuit is connected in series), moreover, what decide the speed of charging is the input power of battery rather than output power of charger.
In summary, please recognize if the quick charge of your phone is activate through point 2).
Best regards"
I charged my phone with quickcharge 2.0 device and saw the USB_HVDCP(QC2.0) in test mode.
@Evil Eye
TeslaTR said:
Yes, they replied. As the fact that my voltage test device doesn't support fast charge. I bought a new one. I'll test with it when it comes.
This is the reply of Nubia:
"Hi,
Christmas grettings!!
Please kindly know the following points.
1) The quick charge won't activate when the power is shotage or over 90%.
2) Please dial *#8604# command and enter Charger test, notice that USB_HVDCP_3(QC3.0), USB_HVDCP(QC2.0), USB_DCP(quick charge doesn't activate)
3) The way you are using to test quick charge figure is not accurate(a circuit is connected in series), moreover, what decide the speed of charging is the input power of battery rather than output power of charger.
In summary, please recognize if the quick charge of your phone is activate through point 2).
Best regards"
I charged my phone with quickcharge 2.0 device and saw the USB_HVDCP(QC2.0) in test mode.
@Evil Eye
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I don't actually understand the 2nd point mate.
Do they mean to say USB_HVDCP_3(QC3.0) will show "acitve" when connected with QC 3.0 charger?
Evil Eye said:
I don't actually understand the 2nd point mate.
Do they mean to say USB_HVDCP_3(QC3.0) will show "acitve" when connected with QC 3.0 charger?
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Yes. If you see USB_HVDCP_3 this means device is charging with QC3 that moment. You can easily try it.
Hey, I'm interested in getting a nubia z11, anybody know a good place to get one, preferably in EU?
which rom?
I just ordered my Nubia Z11 from aliexpress. I've always used android stock rom via cyanogenmod so using a skinned rom will be new for me.
How is the international Nubia Z11 stockrom? What features would I lose/gain by installing LineageOS or Resurrection remix instead of the Nubia rom?
Im trying to get used to not have xposed installed so a feature packed rom would be a benefit.
Thanks for your tips.
tuffno said:
I just ordered my Nubia Z11 from aliexpress. I've always used android stock rom via cyanogenmod so using a skinned rom will be new for me.
How is the international Nubia Z11 stockrom? What features would I lose/gain by installing LineageOS or Resurrection remix instead of the Nubia rom?
Im trying to get used to not have xposed installed so a feature packed rom would be a benefit.
Thanks for your tips.
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International Stock rom is very feature rich. You would lose the edge gestures i suppose in lineage or on other roms like RR.
This is one of the best looking phones (black - gold) in the world, but it`s more good looking than actually good. Especially the camera is an absolute mess: It sucks despite all the hype they made about it, and it sucks really bad. It needs PERFECT conditions to deliver a decent shot, otherwise you will almost always get an ugly mess. Either it won`t focus (forget point and shoot with this one), and even when it focuses, the edges up to almost half the picture will be blurry. Also, there`s tons of noise even in daylight and HDR shots are sometimes not properly denoised at all. Speaking about HDR: It will almost always give your pic a strong purple tint. If you think you can fix everything with the manual mode - not with this one: Shoot in manual and the photo will often lack almost all the colour. Even the Z9 which also had that blurred edge problem had a much better overall camera than this one.
Than we have: Weak mobile internet signal, no notifications at all in 1.56 (china) and 1.20 (international), lags in the 6gb version (strangely not in the 4gb) and many other annoying things. I`ve had the Z9 a year ago and it had exactly the same problems which are still not fixed, despite all the useless updates they throw out every 15 - 30 days. Than i had the 4gb Z11 in october and sold it mainly because of the camera. Now i found the 6gb very cheap (370€) and thought i`ll give it another try, but they didn`t fix anything and they probably won`t. I will not buy a Nubia device ever again. For that money, you can easily get a better phone than this.
tysoncrypto said:
This is one of the best looking phones (black - gold) in the world, but it`s more good looking than actually good. Especially the camera is an absolute mess: It sucks despite all the hype they made about it, and it sucks really bad. It needs PERFECT conditions to deliver a decent shot, otherwise you will almost always get an ugly mess. Either it won`t focus (forget point and shoot with this one), and even when it focuses, the edges up to almost half the picture will be blurry. Also, there`s tons of noise even in daylight and HDR shots are sometimes not properly denoised at all. Speaking about HDR: It will almost always give your pic a strong purple tint. If you think you can fix everything with the manual mode - not with this one: Shoot in manual and the photo will often lack almost all the colour. Even the Z9 which also had that blurred edge problem had a much better overall camera than this one.
Than we have: Weak mobile internet signal, no notifications at all in 1.56 (china) and 1.20 (international), lags in the 6gb version (strangely not in the 4gb) and many other annoying things. I`ve had the Z9 a year ago and it had exactly the same problems which are still not fixed, despite all the useless updates they throw out every 15 - 30 days. Than i had the 4gb Z11 in october and sold it mainly because of the camera. Now i found the 6gb very cheap (370€) and thought i`ll give it another try, but they didn`t fix anything and they probably won`t. I will not buy a Nubia device ever again. For that money, you can easily get a better phone than this.
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Interesting, I don't really care that much about the camera, I just like the way it looks.
Mind telling me where you found the 6gb nubia for 370?
tysoncrypto said:
This is one of the best looking phones (black - gold) in the world, but it`s more good looking than actually good. Especially the camera is an absolute mess: It sucks despite all the hype they made about it, and it sucks really bad. It needs PERFECT conditions to deliver a decent shot, otherwise you will almost always get an ugly mess. Either it won`t focus (forget point and shoot with this one), and even when it focuses, the edges up to almost half the picture will be blurry. Also, there`s tons of noise even in daylight and HDR shots are sometimes not properly denoised at all. Speaking about HDR: It will almost always give your pic a strong purple tint. If you think you can fix everything with the manual mode - not with this one: Shoot in manual and the photo will often lack almost all the colour. Even the Z9 which also had that blurred edge problem had a much better overall camera than this one.
Than we have: Weak mobile internet signal, no notifications at all in 1.56 (china) and 1.20 (international), lags in the 6gb version (strangely not in the 4gb) and many other annoying things. I`ve had the Z9 a year ago and it had exactly the same problems which are still not fixed, despite all the useless updates they throw out every 15 - 30 days. Than i had the 4gb Z11 in october and sold it mainly because of the camera. Now i found the 6gb very cheap (370€) and thought i`ll give it another try, but they didn`t fix anything and they probably won`t. I will not buy a Nubia device ever again. For that money, you can easily get a better phone than this.
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chrys1989 said:
Interesting, I don't really care that much about the camera, I just like the way it looks.
Mind telling me where you found the 6gb nubia for 370?
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I was lucky to find one that is just 3 weeks old from a private seller.
Hey mate, I have a question but I cant find anywhere to post so I go here and ask. What is your experience Z11 when using this as your daily phone. Have you ever had any problems? And could you please give me some Pros and Cons about this phone? Thanks and have a nice day!

[Review] FNF Ifive Mini 4s tablet

I have now had my FNF Ifive Mini 4s, that i ordered from China, since March 7th (Shipping took only 14 days) so i think it is time for a review
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Key features
Android 6.0
7.85" 2048*1536 display
RK3288 Quad Core CPU at 1.8Ghz
Mail-T764 GPU
2 GB DDR3 RAM
32 GB Internal storage
4800mAh Li-Po battery
SD-Card slot
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4Ghz+5Ghz WIFI
Bluetooth 4.0
Disadvantages
Batterylife is only around 2 hours of screen on time with maximum brightness.
Bottom speakers instead of front-facing.
Design and build quality
I really like the bezels on this device. They are nice and small on the sides and a little bigger on the top and bottom. This makes using the tablet for media consumption really comfortable, since there is just enough space for your thumbs on each side of the tablet when it is tilted to the side.
The front of the tablet is all glass. The frame is made of metal and the back has glass in the top and bottom and plastic inbetween. This combined makes an overall sturdy tablet. The tablet has no flex at all when trying to bend it or press down on different spots, so this makes me confident it wont break on normal use.
The buttons are much better than on other tablets at this price point. They dont wobble too much and I am confident they wont fall out or get stuck. The MicroSD-slot works nicely and so does the 3.5mm headphone jack.
The dimentions are 230 x 169 x 7 mm.
Display and screen
The display on this tablet was what made me buy it in the first place. A 2048*1536 display on a 150 USD tablet seemed crazy, so i bought it to see for myself. The display is truly great and very enjoyable to look at, even for long periods of time. In the time I have had it, I have seen severeal movies on it and even read an e-book. Since the screen is 7.85" it has a pixel density of 326.11 PPI
Android 6.0.1
The tablet comes with stock Android 6.0.1. It comes with no bloatware at all which I appreciate alot and it is updated regularly. In the time I have had it, I have gotten 3 updates, which fixed the small amounts of problems it had when I first recieved it. The ROM runs smoothly with no stutters at all thanks to the RK3288 CPU and Mail-T764 GPU.
Camera
The camera is not that good, only 8MP in the rear and 2MP in thefront. I can not really see a use for a camera in a tablet anyway, since I think it is too big for that, so this does not matter to me.
Benchmarks
Antutu
Basemark OS II
Battery Life
When the brightness is set to max and the tablet is used normally I get around 2 hours of screen on time. When the screen is set to the minimum brightness I get around 5-6 hours of screen on time. The battery life is okay, but I think they should have made the device a little thicker and added a little more battery. With my use I have to charge it either every night or every other night.
Conclusion
I think the FNF Ifive Mini 4s definently is worth its price. It is a great tablet for watching movies and Youtube videos, browsing the internet and playing games (but dont expect a high framerate on titles like Grand Theft Auto). I would definently recommend buying this tablet. It is simply an amazing tablet concidering its price of only approximately 150 USD.
I rate it 8.5 out of 10
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EDIT: I just updated to 1.0.8-W, which should work on all devices, new as old, and this seems to boost perfomance nicely. To update, use this tutorial, but use this tool and img instead of the ones mentioned inside the tutorial Thanks to RVA84 for letting me know this in the comments.
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.
stephendt0 said:
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.
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It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed
UnknownDK said:
It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed
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Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.
stephendt0 said:
Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.
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Well, I can not find it.
UnknownDK said:
Well, I can not find it.
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Not too surprising considering it uses a rockchip SOC. Either way not a big deal, I usually use tasker to put it on flight mode at night
I just got this, and I found that when gaming on it (like the new Office Space idle game) the battery was getting destroyed in a huge way. We're not talking 2 hours of life at that point, it dropped almost 20% in about 10 minutes, crazy high usage.
I enabled dev mode and saw that the 'force gpu rendering for 2d' option was enabled, I disabled it and battery life has gone way up even when using games. I'm going to run some tests to determine the overall difference, but other than the battery life I agree this is a pretty great tablet.
I honestly still have my Nexus 7 2013 and still use it daily, but I can see myself switching to this pretty quickly.
Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\
Sphexi said:
Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\
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I'm having the same problem with mine. Trying to figure out what the issue is. Just ticked off Force GPU rendering as per Sphexi's recommendation. We'll see if that helps.
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?
Courtaud said:
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?
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I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
stephendt0 said:
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle?
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For you and anyone else complaining about the poor battery life/battery drain:
1. First - The battery is 6700mAh and not 4800mAh as declared everywhere on web so that's should be enough for everyday usage (currently I got 4-5 SOT for web browsing and lite gaming)
2. Upgrade to the latest firmware version 1.06.
3. After upgrade wipe the system cache.
4. Disable ''Keep Wi-Fi during sleep''.
5. Turn on Android's developer mode and disable animations:
-Go to Settings > About, then tap on Build number several times to enable Android developer mode
-Go to Settings > Developer options, and scroll down to Window animation scale, Transition animation scale, and Animator duration scale.
-Tap on each of the animation options and turn them off.
6. For more speed, install a lightweight launcher (for this tablet I prefer Nova Launcher)
Hope this helps.
Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!
julioforo said:
Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!
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looking for this tok hope someone can help
i saw some bouetooth keyboard case on i think amazon search for fnf ifive keyboard case i think it is dedicated case for this device
I just got mine. Currently about $100 from gearbest and I'm sure other Chinese e-commerce sites.
I also own the Amazon Fire 8 HD tablet for those curious about a comparison. Software wise its so much better to just have vanilla Android vs the whole Fire skin and effort required to get a regular Android launcher setup. The Fire Tablet does fit seemlessly into the whole Amazon ecosystem though which can be quite nice if you use many or most of the Amazon services like Kindle, video, music and shopping. But hardware wise is where the real difference lie. Night and day. I also own the last model Amazon Fire 7 HDX. I mention that because I was shocked when I received my new Fire 8 HD. It was light, plastic-y and had an unforgettable display with much less resolution than the HDX. The buttons were loose and wiggled. Everything just screamed dirt cheap to me. Of course it was dirt cheap price wise compared to the HDX. The ifive Mini 4S is almost the complete opposite. Great screen, solid feel and a fast processor. All for just a few bucks more than the Fire 8 HD. I'd recommend it over the Amazon offering for practically anyone who wants an actual Android tablet. If you're looking for a media device then I'd say that you'll have to choose quality versus ease of integration with Amazon products and services.
Just posted the following over at TechTablets. I found that the latest version of the Google Camera app works with the front camera.
Just a quick comment. I just received my tablet today. I remembered from your YouTube review that the front camera hung the tablet if you took a picture. I agree, generally a tablet isn't a device for pictures but thought I'd see if it still was an issue. It still hangs the tablet but...
I've always preferred the Google Camera app simply because it was consistent across devices. Ever since I used it for the panorama photo feature on my Galaxy S5 phone I've been using it on everything. It takes decent photos on this tablet. Better than with the default app at least. But more importantly it doesn't hang the tablet if you use the front camera. I went to apk mirror to find the most recent arm (not arm64) architecture version that works on Android 6 since I knew the current version was just for Nougat (Android 7+) and I found the following. Name as it appears on apk mirror then link because I'm not sure if links here will work.
Google Camera 3.2.045 (2821762-30) (arm) (Android 6.0+)
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
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Suggestions about case, protection and custom rom for FNF Ifive Mini 4S?
UnknownDK said:
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking? I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.
UnknownDK said:
I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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nickel911 said:
SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.
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I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.
Was about to buy this tablet, instead of Xiaomi MiPad which is much more expensive. But the battery issues which are reported by multiple users is deal breaker
Wondering if it is more like software issues which can be fixed by some updates or more about the battery itself.
salocin411 said:
I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.
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Mine have the same problem. This is ridículos. The tablet shut down and still losing battery. Did anyone figure out how to solve this issue? I also bought mine from Gearbest, did anyone receive an answer from them? I just got mine tablet yesterday and already notice this problem.

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