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Poor Build Quality

Am I the only one noticing problems with this phone? I'm already on my fifth brand new Inc2 in a month. Faulty speakers, loose and falling apart charging ports, vibration device not working, and now the light up home buttons on the bottom have bright white circles around them clearly visible through the black cover.
Am I expecting too much from these phones or is the quality just going to ****?
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My speaker is quiet and I hate it. My charging port isn't loose but the housing around it is. My vibration is fine. And only my search key has the white circle.
Its going to ****.
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My battery cover clicks a little bit, but it doesn't bother me much. Other than that its a great phone IMO.

06stang said:
Am I the only one noticing problems with this phone? I'm already on my fifth brand new Inc2 in a month. Faulty speakers, loose and falling apart charging ports, vibration device not working, and now the light up home buttons on the bottom have bright white circles around them clearly visible through the black cover.
Am I expecting too much from these phones or is the quality just going to ****?
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Yup I have all that and more. I try to look past it all until the Incredible 3 comes out. I think Verizon likes killing phones by turning them global *cough* Droid 2 *cough* or maybe HTC suck at making a sequel for a phone. Then again this phone was meant to be incredible s not 2 that was Verizon's fault. Honesty I played with the Evo3D and it made this phone look like yesterday's garbage. This phone is 3 steps forward and two steps back from the original. Oh btw WTF why does our front facing camera suck more than a year old Evo I noticed this comparing my friends Evo while checking out the Evo3D
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And by the way, the CLNR phones they're sending out are brand new not refurbs
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06stang said:
And by the way, the CLNR phones they're sending out are brand new not refurbs
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Damn dude, I must have gotten lucky. I'm still on my first DInc2 and its holding up better than any phone before it. feels solid, only a slight slight rattle in the usb port thats barely noticeable, and i have no such white circles around my capacitive buttons. I love this phone!

Speaker works fine.
Charging/USB port is slightly out of spec, but is not loose and works fine.
Vibrator is smooth, works fine.
Backlight on softkeys is a little wonky, but nothing annoying.
As I mentioned in another thread where you mention all these things, you somehow keep ending up with the short end of the stick. Most of these problems you have are not common. I've seen people that go through replacements a lot because of legit problems but they are pretty rare. I've seen it happen on all devices I've owned, and I still have my original first purchase devices in my desk drawer (I should really get rid of them).

Mine works perfectly, is built solid and is the best phone I have owned to date. I cant think of one thing that I would want to complain about, in regards to the phone.

Damn, you guys are lucky. I just keep getting the shaft when it comes to quality control.
I was very happy with the last Inc1 AMOLED refurb I got. Perfect. Then that stupid ass gingerbread radio had to go and kill it.
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I'd also like to mention I'm not crazy or just coming up with ****. I love this phone and just want it working correctly like everyone else's Inc2 around me.
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Loudspeaker on back ain't great but not bad either. Vibrate isn't as strong as I'd like it to be but that was true for my Eris too.
I couldn't be happier with my phone.

I'm on my second DINC2. The first one had a really annoying buzz on calls in the earpiece speaker. When I was at the store getting my replacement, I immediately noticed a difference in the vibrate feedback. The new one was a LOT stronger.
I probably would have never noticed the circles around the buttons. Mine only has the circles around the search and back button. I guess that it doesn't really bother me.

06stang said:
I'd also like to mention I'm not crazy or just coming up with ****. I love this phone and just want it working correctly like everyone else's Inc2 around me.
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I believe you. As I mentioned, I knew someone that went through something like 6 or 7 Dares before getting one that worked.

nimdae said:
I believe you. As I mentioned, I knew someone that went through something like 6 or 7 Dares before getting one that worked.
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My Dare was my favorite phone before moving to Android. No replacements on that one.
Yeah the white circles are prominent and around the search and back buttons.
And honestly I wouldn't care about the white circles because the speakers and vibrate work but I have the opportunity to get a brand new Inc2 with potentially none of these problems. This might be my only chance before settling down with this phone for two years.
The vibrate was VERY strong on my last Inc2. So strong that it started to shake itself loose and rattle.
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You must be cursed or someone at VZW must have it in for you.
Admittedly this is my first android handset (and is making me realize that what I've been loving about my nook color isn't having a tablet but simply having an android device) but it's also quite possibly the finest phone I've ever owned.
No complaints at all about the speakers - in fact it's got the best call quality out of the last several phones I've had. The external speaker isn't super loud, but it's loud enough for me - it's a phone not a boom box
The usb port has no play at all, if anything it's too tight.
The vibrator works and seems both more powerful and smoother than any other phone I've had.
Yes, I can see a bit of light leaking through the black mask around the soft keys...but only if I'm really looking for it. Not nearly enough to be distracting. The way they seem to "flash" as I tilt the phone and the light source reflects internally is far more annoying. But really that's the only thing I could come close to complaining about on this phone.
The only other thing I can think of to complain about is a complaint I have about every phone on the market today - the camera lens is too exposed with no protection! My last phone (a Samsung Omnia) the camera only lasted about 10 months before being nearly useless due to scratches on the lens. I can only think of two phones off the top of my phone that have really nailed this. A old LG flip phone my dad had back when they first started putting cams in phones that had a sliding lens cover. And my wife's Hero which has a clear cover over the lens that's part of the battery cover so if it gets scratched you can at least replace the cover. But since pretty much every phone on the market right now has a lens that protrudes I can't really consider it a complaint about the inc2 specifically.

I couldn't ask for a better phone than this one! No light leaks, tight usb port, loud speaker, and both battery covers are tight. I bought the extended battery and it protects the camera lens and flash lenses pretty damn good from scratches and cracks
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My only complaint is that the back casing around the headphone jack seems loose, and it clicks a bit. Good thing I love my case

bigslam123 said:
Mine works perfectly, is built solid and is the best phone I have owned to date. I cant think of one thing that I would want to complain about, in regards to the phone.
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Pretty much share the same experience.
I do however have a TPU case and a ZAGG screen protector if that adds anything to my build quality opinion.

I got 4 "like new" DI2's today as replacements for our fascinates. All but one of them have incredibly weak vibrate and haptic feedback, with haptic being barely noticeable at all on two of the devices. One has a pink tinted screen and another has faintly visible horizontal lines running down the display. Yet another device has two small scratches at the bottom of the screen. Every device has the circle backlight issue, but in different degrees. Definitely seems to be a great deal of variability in the manufacturing process.

renf said:
I got 4 "like new" DI2's today as replacements for our fascinates. All but one of them have incredibly weak vibrate and haptic feedback, with haptic being barely noticeable at all on two of the devices. One has a pink tinted screen and another has faintly visible horizontal lines running down the display. Yet another device has two small scratches at the bottom of the screen. Every device has the circle backlight issue, but in different degrees. Definitely seems to be a great deal of variability in the manufacturing process.
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Good god man! I feel bad for tellin ya in irc to get them! Lol. I hope you get some better ones. Mine was new when I received it. I've had it bout a month now. I still stand by my original statement. Better than the sf. Sorry for your misfortune.
Bob
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Best Screen Protector

Hi All,
Currently have a One X, love the phone, apart from the battery life and the locked bootloader. However it has managed to "gain" two 1 cm scratches that are really quite deep and very visible.
So I now have a Blue S3 on order, due with me on Monday, and I don't want to find myself in the same boat in terms of screen scratches, I just can't deal with having the screen messed up (maybe I'm a bit OCD).
Anyway, to the moral of the story, can people please give me suggestions for the best screen protector for the S3, I want to protect but I don't want to take anything away from the screen, I remember putting a zagg on an iPhone 4s, and it took the edge of the clarity of the display, and I don't want that at all for the S3.
I have searched and can't find a similar thread, apologies if there is.
Help greatly appreciated.

Stokie2012 said:
Hi All,
Currently have a One X, love the phone, apart from the battery life and the locked bootloader. However it has managed to "gain" two 1 cm scratches that are really quite deep and very visible.
So I now have a Blue S3 on order, due with me on Monday, and I don't want to find myself in the same boat in terms of screen scratches, I just can't deal with having the screen messed up (maybe I'm a bit OCD).
Anyway, to the moral of the story, can people please give me suggestions for the best screen protector for the S3, I want to protect but I don't want to take anything away from the screen, I remember putting a zagg on an iPhone 4s, and it took the edge of the clarity of the display, and I don't want that at all for the S3.
I have searched and can't find a similar thread, apologies if there is.
Help greatly appreciated.
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Wow, useless thread and that too in wrong section.
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.

I think screen gards don't cost more than a dollar
What's the issue in trying one, but it's not a major thing to start a thread that too so big and huge
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Hi, my s3 glass scratched within a week, thankfully around the home button, not the display & I'm pretty obsessively careful. I bought the otterbox commuter case and installed the included screen protector. I can see no effect on the brightness or clarity of the screen, but it was a bugger to get on right & only just covers the display area of the glass, leaving a lip that my finger catches on when I'm swiping from the edges of the screen. It's pretty annoying but I'll live with it for the protection, a bit like using a condom!
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rishabho1 said:
I think screen gards don't cost more than a dollar
What's the issue in trying one, but it's not a major thing to start a thread that too so big and huge
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Anyways, he won't live his life with the same screen protector he can obviously change.
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Jees, gotta love those folk who feel the need to take the time to post not 1, but 2 totally pointless and non helpful replies, when posting 1 helpful reply or adopting the "I have nothing good to say so I won't say anything" mantra would save him and everyone else the time.
I was hoping for a decent response, so I can order 1 now, so it arrives in time for the phone, which was Monday. So I don't have to go any time without protection, and get a scratch like 1 poster mentions.

IMO the best one is the clear one as i tried many, stay away from the matt or antiglare cause it cause a washed screen and dimmed colours.
They are selling it on ebay a pack of 6 for 3 pounds. hope that will help you

I've had done generic one which came with my case, a momax one and now I'm into a barely there.
The barely there is the best of the ones I've tried. It's matt finish so it does change the look of the screen slightly, it is a tiny but blurred now, but it's quite a small effect and once gotten used to it. The positive effects of using a matt protector are that my screen has no glare or reflection in the light now, making it easier to read when a light source is shining onto it. Also, while the glossy ones quickly become covered in fingerprints, they are quite hard to spot in this one.
It seems to be of decent strength and thickness. Have me a slightly better overlap in the edges than the first two I tried. Worked out cheaper as well ... for a twin pack for the same price as the one momax.
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Good move as i also got rid of my one x in record time...one week!
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Stokie2012 said:
Jees, gotta love those folk who feel the need to take the time to post not 1, but 2 totally pointless and non helpful replies, when posting 1 helpful reply or adopting the "I have nothing good to say so I won't say anything" mantra would save him and everyone else the time.
I was hoping for a decent response, so I can order 1 now, so it arrives in time for the phone, which was Monday. So I don't have to go any time without protection, and get a scratch like 1 poster mentions.
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what do you mean this thread is useless?
ur right !
by d way wrong forum lol

rishabho1 said:
what do you mean this thread is useless?
ur right !
by d way wrong forum lol
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How is this the wrong forum if he's asking about a screen protector for his new S3??
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Matte screen protector
I ordered a matte protector for my S3.
Looked and felt really nice, kept finger prints off, but at the end of the day after a week or so i wanted to look at the screen with nothing on it at all. Looks far better.
Maybe a sock or something to keep it in is better than a protector ??

thesponz said:
I ordered a matte protector for my S3.
Looked and felt really nice, kept finger prints off, but at the end of the day after a week or so i wanted to look at the screen with nothing on it at all. Looks far better.
Maybe a sock or something to keep it in is better than a protector ??
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I thought I was the only one, I bought a matte one, but now I want my regular hd screen back lol

Guest69 said:
Hi, my s3 glass scratched within a week, thankfully around the home button, not the display & I'm pretty obsessively careful. I bought the otterbox commuter case and installed the included screen protector. I can see no effect on the brightness or clarity of the screen, but it was a bugger to get on right & only just covers the display area of the glass, leaving a lip that my finger catches on when I'm swiping from the edges of the screen. It's pretty annoying but I'll live with it for the protection, a bit like using a condom!
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Mine also scratched at the home button, to be more spesific, at the back butto.

I think the best so far is the sgp nano clear.

How long to wait?

I have a 32GB reserved at Best Buy for pickup today. I have an original n7 32 that I got back in December, and this one is going to replace it. I was actually already planning on selling it, because the light bleed and lag drives me nuts. I was thinking of canceling the Best Buy order and waiting, because I have seen a disturbing number of early build issue type posts. Question is, how long should I wait for the first run issues to be worked out before buying? When I bought mine in December, I expected those issues to be worked out, but I went through three before hitting on one that did not have screen lift issues.
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I am pretty eager to hear opinions regarding this question as I bought my first nex 7 in september and it still had the scren lift like yours one.
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Got my 32gb on friday at best buy. No hardware issues/defects/issues. You'd have to wait maybe a month for section shipments.

Mostly it depends on the stock ordered by those sites and stores. When they run out of stock, then only will they replace their stock. It only depends on how much the stock is recycled, given the amount of people returning their device due a "single dead pixel" or a lil bit of "light leak"...
I suggest wait for a bit, like 2-3 months for the first batch to run out, then give it a shot.

Best buy says 30-60 days is next order
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I suppose that I could always pick it up, give it a try and return it if there are any issues. It's just that I have always had terrible luck with release date electronics. I have never had one without issues.
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Just to update, I went ahead and picked it up. Figure that I can always return it if it has problems. Unfortunately, I'm going to need to return it. There are three problems that I saw right off.
1. There is a bright spot on the screen that's visible to the eye. If displaying white, the bright spot is brighter white, when displaying blue, it's brighter blue, etc...
2. There is a speck of dust under the screen, about half an inch below the bright spot.
3. It creaks pretty badly when held on the right side, near the bottom. So basically, when holding it in portrait mode.
Of these four issues, only the first issue is a deal breaker for me. The spot is large enough that it is noticeable when looking at the screen. It is more obvious when looking at a lighter color like white or light grey, but it is visible with all colors. I'm not sure how these screens are put together, so this might be completely off. It looks like there's some kind of film or something, and in the brighter area, it looks like it is a little thinner. The only reason that I noticed the spec of dust was because I was looking at the white spot under a magnifying glass, to see if I could figure out what it was. The spec of dust is not visible, even while wearing my strongest glasses. The creaking comes and goes. I'm guessing that with time, it would disappear entirely. And I do plan on having it in a case, so it really wouldn't matter. One thing that seems apparent while comparing the two, at least to me, is that the original model was more solidly built. Not that the new one seems cheap, because it doesn't. But it just doesn't seem as solid. Of course I did have to go through three original N7s before I found one that didn't have screen lift.
The screen itself (once looking past the white spot) is amazing! I have had a number of iPads and I have my current N7 and a Kindle Fire (original), and I have NEVER seen a screen that is so even. One of my primary complaints with my original N7 is that the screen is ever so yellowish along the right side of the screen. It is distracting enough when reading on the Kindle app that I set the background color to Sepia to overcome it. And not only is it very even, but the resolution is unlike anything that I've ever seen on something this small. The text on Kindle books is crisp and easily readable. On my original N7, I can see pixels. Though not nearly as bad as the Kindle Fire. Also, the white is more pleasing to the eye than the white on the original N7 was. I know that this is a subjective thing. Where my old N7 had a slightly reddish tint to the white, the new one doesn't have that. I'm not exactly sure how to describe it. But I think that it looks much nicer. The new N7 is also much brighter than the original. I'd say about 30% brighter.
And it's definitely fast. I wasn't really happy with my orignal N7, because of the issues that it has with light bleeding. But now it also seems really slow. I'm not sure how to fix that. Maybe a new ROM is in order.
Unfortunately, I can't keep one with a bright spot like this one has, so back it goes. Perhaps I'll take the advice given above, and give it a few months and try again.
One of the ways that I sold my wife on the original N7 was by saying that it would keep getting Android updates. I guess I accidentally lied about that. 4.2.2 appears to be as high as the original N7 will go, at least without a custom ROM.

Well what rotten luck for you. I haven't any of these Problem fortunately. Hope you get it fixed

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4.2.2 appears to be as high as the original N7 will go, at least without a custom ROM.
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Heh???
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-43-updates-pushing-today-current-nexus-devices
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aooga said:
Heh???
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-43-updates-pushing-today-current-nexus-devices
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agreed, my first get ironically updated to 4.3 1.5 hours prior to me picking up my new nexus 7 on friday

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Heh???
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-43-updates-pushing-today-current-nexus-devices
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Yea. Dumb statement that I made. My N7 has not gotten any use for the last few months. I saw that it was on 4.2.2 still, and just made an assumption.
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usmaak said:
Just to update, I went ahead and picked it up. Figure that I can always return it if it has problems. Unfortunately, I'm going to need to return it. There are three problems that I saw right off.
1. There is a bright spot on the screen that's visible to the eye. If displaying white, the bright spot is brighter white, when displaying blue, it's brighter blue, etc...
2. There is a speck of dust under the screen, about half an inch below the bright spot.
3. It creaks pretty badly when held on the right side, near the bottom. So basically, when holding it in portrait mode.
Of these four issues, only the first issue is a deal breaker for me. The spot is large enough that it is noticeable when looking at the screen. It is more obvious when looking at a lighter color like white or light grey, but it is visible with all colors. I'm not sure how these screens are put together, so this might be completely off. It looks like there's some kind of film or something, and in the brighter area, it looks like it is a little thinner. The only reason that I noticed the spec of dust was because I was looking at the white spot under a magnifying glass, to see if I could figure out what it was. The spec of dust is not visible, even while wearing my strongest glasses. The creaking comes and goes. I'm guessing that with time, it would disappear entirely. And I do plan on having it in a case, so it really wouldn't matter. One thing that seems apparent while comparing the two, at least to me, is that the original model was more solidly built. Not that the new one seems cheap, because it doesn't. But it just doesn't seem as solid. Of course I did have to go through three original N7s before I found one that didn't have screen lift.
The screen itself (once looking past the white spot) is amazing! I have had a number of iPads and I have my current N7 and a Kindle Fire (original), and I have NEVER seen a screen that is so even. One of my primary complaints with my original N7 is that the screen is ever so yellowish along the right side of the screen. It is distracting enough when reading on the Kindle app that I set the background color to Sepia to overcome it. And not only is it very even, but the resolution is unlike anything that I've ever seen on something this small. The text on Kindle books is crisp and easily readable. On my original N7, I can see pixels. Though not nearly as bad as the Kindle Fire. Also, the white is more pleasing to the eye than the white on the original N7 was. I know that this is a subjective thing. Where my old N7 had a slightly reddish tint to the white, the new one doesn't have that. I'm not exactly sure how to describe it. But I think that it looks much nicer. The new N7 is also much brighter than the original. I'd say about 30% brighter.
And it's definitely fast. I wasn't really happy with my orignal N7, because of the issues that it has with light bleeding. But now it also seems really slow. I'm not sure how to fix that. Maybe a new ROM is in order.
Unfortunately, I can't keep one with a bright spot like this one has, so back it goes. Perhaps I'll take the advice given above, and give it a few months and try again.
One of the ways that I sold my wife on the original N7 was by saying that it would keep getting Android updates. I guess I accidentally lied about that. 4.2.2 appears to be as high as the original N7 will go, at least without a custom ROM.
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I'm sure BB would let you exchange it for another (and even open it in store to make sure it's good) if you wanted to keep it still.

LG G3 camera lens scratches?

Hi all.
I've received my brand new LG G3 32GB international D855. Awesome phone, really.
Anyway I've encountered some hardware related problems:
1st I've noticed that top and bottom of the screen are brighter, but I think it's due to the LCD technology itself (used amoleds in the last 3 years so a different technology with different and, imho, worse problems).
2nd, and the topic of this question, my camera is showing few very light scratches on the back lens. From my tests, fortunately, I realized that they're not visible in any kind of photo.
I used a cover and a screen protector since I unboxed.
My question is: is anyone experiencing similar issue? Is the lens so easy to damage?
I'm pretty worried because my Note 3 never showed a scratch in 7 months used without any kind of protection...
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I have also used a bumper case since the 1st day. I checked my camera lens just now and did not notice any scratches. I think it might be a manufacturing fault.

Not sure my G2 had a ton of scratches too but it never came out in photos... so you should be A-OK... maybe just different glass types.
Note 3 has other quality issues *shakes* lol. S Pen die much? lol.

Meanwhile I realised that the issue with the screen is an actual problem called screen bleeding, related to LCD's back illumination.
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I've had mine since 2 days prior to main release (know a guy, mwohaha)
I managed to drop it from my hand, when falling asleep in my chair after working with some stuff for 12h straight - it fell on the floor, and slid a good 20-30 cm across dust, and some "gravel particles" from my shoes - camera facing down. NO scratches.
I'm actually quite impressed

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I've had mine since 2 days prior to main release (know a guy, mwohaha)
I managed to drop it from my hand, when falling asleep in my chair after working with some stuff for 12h straight - it fell on the floor, and slid a good 20-30 cm across dust, and some "gravel particles" from my shoes - camera facing down. NO scratches.
I'm actually quite impressed
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So they sent me a butter unity?
Wasn't sapphire indestructible?
Anyway I removed cover and the screen protector, actually they only covered the beautiful design... Just try a few day without nothing and see if the situation deteriorates.
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kylothow said:
So they sent me a butter unity?
Wasn't sapphire indestructible?
Anyway I removed cover and the screen protector, actually they only covered the beautiful design... Just try a few day without nothing and see if the situation deteriorates.
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I guess you got a faulty unit; I'd send it in to LG, or at least go on the live chat. That should do the trick, I hope!

sounds like a manufacturing fault. just swap it...i used the bumper too no scratches so far

BurningRain said:
sounds like a manufacturing fault. just swap it...i used the bumper too no scratches so far
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Yeah but I don't know how LG operates... I can't stay without phone for weeks...
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If I'm not wrong I have 2 years to have free reparations/replacements right? Scratches aren't affecting my photos and are only barely visible with naked eye and only in determinated light conditions. If the problem becomes worse or photos will deteriorate I'll update this thread with my experience with LG's warranty system.
For now this phone rocks.
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I've noticed some "light leaks" on the top and the bottom of the screen. It's nothing so disturbing, but it's not acceptable in a high end phone like the G3. :/
Anyone else noticed this? Is more visible when you're seen a darker color on the entire screen.

gustavocoelho said:
I've noticed some "light leaks" on the top and the bottom of the screen. It's nothing so disturbing, but it's not acceptable in a high end phone like the G3. :/
Anyone else noticed this? Is more visible when you're seen a darker color on the entire screen.
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I've also, but it's very hard to notice and when watching films or playing games is almost invisible.
Anyway guys I've an update for you: I'm not crazy scratches are very visible under direct light and I'll definely contact the seller...

Little update
Sent the phone back to the shop (yes, directly to the seller because it was less than 10 days I have bought it :victory, it should get there on Monday.
Let's see if the screen leaky borders, creacky cover and most important buttery lens are enough for a replacement :fingers-crossed:
I'll update you when the shop will contact me.

Another and last update
The shop received the faulty phone today and replaced with a new one
I should get it tomorrow :victory:

kylothow said:
The shop received the faulty phone today and replaced with a new one
I should get it tomorrow :victory:
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Let us know about those borders.

helikido said:
Let us know about those borders.
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I'm testing it now, they also replaced the wall charger that produced a kind of electric noise (and I forgot to tell them it did...)
Another update after the screen tests.
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Anyway, a note: the "old" G3 had a "tight" USB which was a pain to plug... the new one works as it should
the "old" G3 had orrible blacks... the new one has very darker blacks
The screen still have the barely visible blue bar on top (seem to be a G3 feature) and has little brighter bottom borders... so I think it's the LCD itself and not a defect. I tested the screen with a simple app called something like Screen Test and every color is uniform (no illumination problems, darker bars/leaks, nothing.
THIS PHONE DOESN'T HAVE AM/PM BUG!
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LOL, AM/PM bug still present

kylothow said:
I'm testing it now, they also replaced the wall charger that produced a kind of electric noise (and I forgot to tell them it did...)
Another update after the screen tests.
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Anyway, a note: the "old" G3 had a "tight" USB which was a pain to plug... the new one works as it should
the "old" G3 had orrible blacks... the new one has very darker blacks
The screen still have the barely visible blue bar on top (seem to be a G3 feature) and has little brighter bottom borders... so I think it's the LCD itself and not a defect. I tested the screen with a simple app called something like Screen Test and every color is uniform (no illumination problems, darker bars/leaks, nothing.
THIS PHONE DOESN'T HAVE AM/PM BUG!
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LOL, AM/PM bug still present
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By any chance can you tell me if you have a model with revised hardware? Because i thought all G3's had a hard to plug in usb (including mine).
About the borders i seem to have them too. I think its normal because i can notice them on all lcd displays like the iphone.
On the lowest screen brigtness, during day light my navigation bar is darker than the black bezel on the phone so i assume that yours is the same correct?
And my charger also starts hissing when charging the phone. Weird thing is it also makes the phone hiss when i have earphones on. I dont know if i should be worried.

helikido said:
By any chance can you tell me if you have a model with revised hardware? Because i thought all G3's had a hard to plug in usb (including mine).
About the borders i seem to have them too. I think its normal because i can notice them on all lcd displays like the iphone.
On the lowest screen brigtness, during day light my navigation bar is darker than the black bezel on the phone so i assume that yours is the same correct?
And my charger also starts hissing when charging the phone. Weird thing is it also makes the phone hiss when i have earphones on. I dont know if i should be worried.
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Accessed phone infos from dialer and it says rev 1.0 like the "old" one.
Yeah I've set brightness to auto and the navbar is barely visible, not like an amoled but the "old" phone had blueish black which was horrible while watching movies even in a dark room with brightness set to minimum
And the new wall charger has the same problem so I think it's normal and it shouldn't explode
I'm not sure about the headphones+charger issue, sorry.
I can hear interference with earphones but I'm not sure of what you mean...

kylothow said:
Accessed phone infos from dialer and it says rev 1.0 like the "old" one.
Yeah I've set brightness to auto and the navbar is barely visible, not like an amoled but the "old" phone had blueish black which was horrible while watching movies even in a dark room with brightness set to minimum
And the new wall charger has the same problem so I think it's normal and it shouldn't explode
I'm not sure about the headphones+charger issue, sorry.
I can hear interference with earphones but I'm not sure of what you mean...
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Yeah i thought so.
The blacks are normal to be a little bluish. All lcd are like that and even mine to a small degree.
Thank you for your reply lol. Good luck with your phone buddy

Scratched? How about fully cracked!
First - the phone was not dropped or have any impacts other than what you might get from walking with a phone in your pocket. Other than normal daily use, safe handling and really careful use the phone had nothing happen to it. I cannot pick even a medium bump that happened, but now I have a cracked lens with a hole exposing the camera beneath. LG is warning me that 'mishandling' is not covered ... I certainly did not mishandle the phone in any way.
Link to other forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-cracked-lens-hours-box-t2812323
Here is the video I made for Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH1fNexSNQk

Help me decide please

Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app

To me
-HTC is better screen, but thats a preference in what you like.
-S7Edge screen can be fix with a case, I got the Ringke fusion clear case and I dont hit buttons inadvertently when I type anymore.
-The edge can be turn off.
-If you dont like the edge, get the regular S7 with exynos processor.
The only reason that people may tell you to get the HTC 10 is because they think touchwiz is still slow. Boomsound speaker is another reason to switch however, you can get dual facing speaker with the S7 edge just look at my video I posted a few days ago.
Ultimately this is what it come down to:
HTC 10
HTC blink feed
Metal
Boomsound speaker
Samsung
All glass design
enormous S7 edge battery
IP68 water proof
dual speaker (only on exynos phone)
The screen is up for grabs but if you like amoled then Samsung is the way for you.

I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.

I'm kind of in the same boat. I actually have both the S7 and the HTC 10 on my desk right now. There are a lot of things that I like about each one, but I'm torn between which to keep.
S7 Pros
- 5x5 app grid
- Volume and power buttons on the opposite sides of the phone
- Headphone jack at the bottom
- Quick settings accessible with one swipe
- FM radio
HTC 10 Pros
- Faster fingerprint reader
- "Capacitive" home button
- Cleaner Sense interface
- BoomSound
- Finally good camera
I like that the S7 is a little smaller and easier to manage with one hand, and Touchwiz seems to be a lot more refined. I think that HTC actually pared Sense back a little too much with the 10. There's not a lot of Sense left, but they kept the 4x4 app grid, which I really can't stand. On a 5.2" screen, it's really a total waste of space, and from what I can tell, the only way to fix that is to install a custom ROM, which I don't want to do until I'm sure I want to keep it. I'm also struggling because I feel like my S7 may have a defective display. The whites are kind of off and whenever I angle the phone slightly off center, the display gets a blue tint to it. I've never had an AMOLED display before, so I don't know if this is just how they are, or I have a bad one.
Any advice?

exxi said:
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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If you liked the S7e but hated the edges, why not just get the S7 and be done with it? You're in an htc section so you're going to get biased opinions.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

Sammae7 said:
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
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thats what a case is for. are you going to carry your HTC naked?
I drop my S7E once or twice about 4-5ft with a ringke fusion clear case and no damage at all.

I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.

Sammae7 said:
I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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if you use a case then how is it gonna crack?
thats like saying regardless if you have a case on the HTC 10 or not its gonna dent or scratch if you drop it. doesnt make sense.

A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.

Updates are important to me. Camera is second but it's okay. The HTC camera isn't very good IMO. And when I say "isn't good" I mean not a convenient camera. It takes great shots and what not but there's no oleophobic coating on the lens so smudges affect the image more. It's just unreliable for me for the auto photographer like me.
Battery could be better but for me it could be an app draining it.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

Sammae7 said:
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
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the problem lies in that you have a crappy case, not that the glass breaks and you have a case.
yes its fragile material, but if you have a case I dont see how it will break. that being said, I always own the Ringke fusion minimal clear case, drop my phone (S6, note 5 and S7 edge) several time, nothing happen. granted the HTC 10 wont shatter but it'll leave a dent or it'll scratch and it'll be a sore eye regardless.

Dude....if you have second thoughts about it, just return it already. Grown ups do not ask these childish question.