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So I got the S3 last week, finally found the root thread yesterday and rooted it last night but had already done the OTA update. I am happy with the stock ROM for the most part, just want to get the bloat out of it. I plan on putting CWM on it tonight then backing the stock ROM up.
once I have the stock ROM backed up is it possible to use Ti Backup to uninstall the bloatware without causing any issues with in the stock ROM? If I do remove the bloatware will it cause issues with putting a custom ROM on in the future? What all bloatware can be removed without and bad things happening to the stock ROM.
Sorry for the questions, picture me as that 40 year old guy who knows enough to understand and also mess things up so I try to understand and do calculated moves before I actually do them.
Thanks in advance...Todd
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732039
sneakyws6 said:
So I got the S3 last week, finally found the root thread yesterday and rooted it last night but had already done the OTA update. I am happy with the stock ROM for the most part, just want to get the bloat out of it. I plan on putting CWM on it tonight then backing the stock ROM up.
once I have the stock ROM backed up is it possible to use Ti Backup to uninstall the bloatware without causing any issues with in the stock ROM? If I do remove the bloatware will it cause issues with putting a custom ROM on in the future? What all bloatware can be removed without and bad things happening to the stock ROM.
Sorry for the questions, picture me as that 40 year old guy who knows enough to understand and also mess things up so I try to understand and do calculated moves before I actually do them.
Thanks in advance...Todd
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you can use tibu to uninstall bloat. if you are unsure, freeze the app (in tibu) for a few days and see if you get fc's. if you don't, then you can uninstall, but it never hurts to have a backup. removing bloat will not affect custom roms
You can also just disable the applications in the built in application manager. You do have to remove any application updates first.
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You can also just disable the applications in the built in application manager. You do have to remove any application updates first.
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I used to be able do that, but now I don't have a button to disable or enable an app...any ideas what could cause this? (I used tibu to freeze bunch of bloatware, must have frozen something that caused that?)
Hi all
I just got my 8.4 Tab Pro and need some advice before I apply my usual tweaking. Sorry if something similar has been discussed in other threads, I was not able to find definite answers to my questions.
As with all my Android devices I'd like customize the Tab Pro to minimize load, remove bloat and basically have the most control over it as possible.
- I rooted the Tab Pro with Towel without triggering Knox. So far so good. From what I read though, installing a recovery mod and/or a custom rom, Knox will still be triggered. What if I use an 'optimized' (debloated, tweaked) stock rom, is there a way no to have Knox in the way?
- If there's no way to prevent Knox from triggering: Any advice on which processes/apps can be safely removed and which (eg build.prop) tweaks would make sense for this device?
- Is there an overview which shows available Firmwares and maybe even changelogs? I'm a bit confused by all the different available codes and their corresponding origin countries.
That's it for the moment, thanks in advance
as soon as you flash a custom recovery, you will trip Knox. There is no way around that at the moment.
you can freeze quite a bit of the stock apps to get the device to run smoother. check your settings -- apps, and go to the running tab. Note which apps you don't use that are running in the background, and then freeze them with Titanium backup or similar program. Note some apps have multiple APK's that need to be frozen.
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as soon as you flash a custom recovery, you will trip Knox. There is no way around that at the moment.
you can freeze quite a bit of the stock apps to get the device to run smoother. check your settings -- apps, and go to the running tab. Note which apps you don't use that are running in the background, and then freeze them with Titanium backup or similar program. Note some apps have multiple APK's that need to be frozen.
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Hah, looks like my Auto-Correct trolled me with "Knox", nice one :silly:
Corrected it..
Thanks for the reply, that cleared it up for me with the trigger.
Regarding the other topic though: I'm aware how one can identify and disable unnecessary apps, I was hoping to find (for example) some kind of a list like the one Rom Cleaner uses where stock Samsung bloatware is identified- which would make it a lot easier to work on with the ridiculous amount of stuff included in the device.
Not sure if there is such an app yet for the tab pro..
I made a list of apps I froze in the battery life thread, here's a link to the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54229116&postcount=26
Keep in mind, I started off with a rom without the All-Share APK's, and without the Knox APK's (there are several of each).
since that post, I have also frozen S-finder and Security Manager Service. Started getting random reboots, so I re-installed Security Manager Service, and it seems to have fixed the reboots.
Nice, thanks for that- that'll be a good start.
Any ideas regarding the different available firmwares?
I'm on ND3, which seems to work for me. Using Freeza's nearly stock rom for now and all seems well. haven't tried any of the CM based roms on this tablet yet though.
Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.
Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!
Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks
Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!
I have a Galaxy S4, had its for a good while now, i guess half a year or so? Maybe getting close to a year, hell as I know rofl, time flies by fast. I started seeing my phone dieing super fast even when I'm not using it(idle). I see System manager application(carrier iq) x462 wakelocks, and others listed below in pics. I also had Outlook app which also had tons of wakelocks(uninstalled it). How should i fix this problem, I'm lucky to get enough battery for a day's worth. If i start using phone data to music, browse the web, or do daily tasks that shouldn't impact on the battery much still drain the battery pretty quickly.
I'm still on 4.2.2, mdl bootloader, using nh7 modem, rooted. Tried using apps like battery doctor, clean master to clean residue, DU battery saver, etc. I'm not sure if they even help, as it will show a list of apps running, u hit to kill them, and it "kills them", and after 5mins if you open again, it shows that u need to close them again. Should i just update to lollipop? Would that fix anything, anything else i should do? Or is this normal? I saw other people on this forum somehow getting 3-7days of standby time?
Also when using gps, phone gets really hot, and using data to browse, etc also makes the phone pretty hot, I'm using a case, maybe that's the culprit of it?
Any tips/info would help. Thanks.
Your phone is overloaded with crap apps, your firmware is outdated and you need to debloat your phone with Romtoolbox.
Those battery apps should only be used to troubleshoot and uninstall, lookout is a system heavy app that uses too many resources, clean sweep is another app you don't need.
Use Zoner Antivirus if you think you need that service, all that Tmobile junk apps you need to remove using Romtoolbox.
Cpu Spy is a simple app to keep track of your phone as far as sleep is concerned.
Flashing the latest firmware will also help being that apps are being optimized for the latest kitkat and lollipop.
You have work to do.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Your phone is overloaded with crap apps, your firmware is outdated and you need to debloat your phone with Romtoolbox.
Those battery apps should only be used to troubleshoot and uninstall, lookout is a system heavy app that uses too many resources, clean sweep is another app you don't need.
Use Zoner Antivirus if you think you need that service, all that Tmobile junk apps you need to remove using Romtoolbox.
Cpu Spy is a simple app to keep track of your phone as far as sleep is concerned.
Flashing the latest firmware will also help being that apps are being optimized for the latest kitkat and lollipop.
You have work to do.
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Haha yeah, I got work to do. Which firmware version should i go for that is stable atm? Heard 5.01 is full of bugs and i don't want to deal with that atm rofl. Just need my phone to eat less juice, have lightweight performance, smooth, etc. Hoping updating firmware will remove overheating, battery drain, etc.
I saw that 5.01 removed some little features like, when you hold the power button, you could mute/vibrate/sound without unlocking your phone, and some other lil features that were helpful.
Also, is there a list somewhere that lists all the bloatware apps that you should remove from you device that comes with the firmware, from t-mobile, etc.
Was also wondering if there was a handy app that had turn on/off data, flashlight, and other things all in one and lightweight app. Thanks.
First things first, I would install stock firmware first and run phone for a couple of days to make sure all problems are resolved and that everything works.
Then you can figure out what rom you want, custom or stock.
Stay away from 5.0 lollipop for now it's super buggy.
Some of the features you mentioned can be had with Xposed frameworks, many apps to choose from.
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PanchoPlanet said:
First things first, I would install stock firmware first and run phone for a couple of days to make sure all problems are resolved and that everything works.
Then you can figure out what rom you want, custom or stock.
Stay away from 5.0 lollipop for now it's super buggy.
Some of the features you mentioned can be had with Xposed frameworks, many apps to choose from.
Pp.
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I think I am running a stock 4.2.2 rom rooted already. Since i disabled lots of bloatware apps the OTA doesnt work atm, if i enable all of them I can get OTA update from T-mobile. Should i just do OTA update to a certain version? Don't really use custom roms atm anyways, and kinda don't want to lose all my data on my phone and start over lol. Or just backup data on the phone and flash a stock rom like 4.4.2, etc, to keep the mdl bootloader for the future, eh idk.
If i missed something let me know.
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I think I am running a stock 4.2.2 rom rooted already. Since i disabled lots of bloatware apps the OTA doesnt work atm, if i enable all of them I can get OTA update from T-mobile. Should i just do OTA update to a certain version? Don't really use custom roms atm anyways, and kinda don't want to lose all my data on my phone and start over lol. Or just backup data on the phone and flash a stock rom like 4.4.2, etc, to keep the mdl bootloader for the future, eh idk.
If i missed something let me know.
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Sticking with 4.4.2 is not advisable due to app conflicts you can run into as developers update to lollipop certain apps may stop working or cause problems with your ability to use your phone. Best bet is to update to kitkat NK2 and be up to date.
The only way to get OTA is to do a factory reset and that will wipe the phone clean, like it just came out of the box. The safest way to restore data is to copy your internal disk onto a folder on your pc, and after the reset you can transfer back to the phone whatever data or folders you want.
You can also try flashing the update with custom recovery, this method will keep your data intact as long as your on a stock touchwiz rom, then you don't have to OTA.
Forget about MDL bootloader, it doesn't have Knox but after you update you can remove Knox.
Knox is only needed for warranty purposes and since your out of warranty don't worry about it.
ShinySide has a link in development to download the Nk2 firmware, just follow directions.
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Greenify will help your battery tremendously. Kills a lot of apps that stay loaded in the background. But be careful with certain apps, you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate them.
Facebook, and messenger are apps you should allow to run in the background, because you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate with greenify.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Sticking with 4.4.2 is not advisable due to app conflicts you can run into as developers update to lollipop certain apps may stop working or cause problems with your ability to use your phone. Best bet is to update to kitkat NK2 and be up to date.
The only way to get OTA is to do a factory reset and that will wipe the phone clean, like it just came out of the box. The safest way to restore data is to copy your internal disk onto a folder on your pc, and after the reset you can transfer back to the phone whatever data or folders you want.
You can also try flashing the update with custom recovery, this method will keep your data intact as long as your on a stock touchwiz rom, then you don't have to OTA.
Forget about MDL bootloader, it doesn't have Knox but after you update you can remove Knox.
Knox is only needed for warranty purposes and since your out of warranty don't worry about it.
ShinySide has a link in development to download the Nk2 firmware, just follow directions.
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This is the only one i found that shiny has put up for NK2 4.4.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development/stock-base-4-4-4-nk2-rooted-deodexed-t2990478
Don't really see much directions on that page either lol, I'll prolly just do what you said, copy the internal folders/files to pc, flash the full firmware of 4.4.4 nk2. Plus I come home late from work everyday, so i might have to w8 to do this till saturday or w.e. But yeah, I don't really care about knox, only want never firmware, still be sim unlocked to all carriers, etc. Should i also make a custom recovery just in case or w.e, or doing factory reset is fine as it it if something goes wrong? Thanks.
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Greenify will help your battery tremendously. Kills a lot of apps that stay loaded in the background. But be careful with certain apps, you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate them.
Facebook, and messenger are apps you should allow to run in the background, because you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate with greenify.
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Thanks, i have heard of that app, I'll keep it in mind ;p
That ShinySide link is just for a rom, that won't help you. You need complete stock firmware NK2 and that is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54155517
Download on pc and use Odin to install.
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If you are rooted on an older Android version the odds are good that you've got a Google Play Services Wakelock caused by the System Update Service.
It's a major flaw (maybe there on purpose) in the latest Google Play Services that autoupdates itself.
You can kill it. But as old as your ROM is, it's worth your time to update it anyway.
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If you are rooted on an older Android version the odds are good that you've got a Google Play Services Wakelock caused by the System Update Service.
It's a major flaw (maybe there on purpose) in the latest Google Play Services that autoupdates itself.
You can kill it. But as old as your ROM is, it's worth your time to update it anyway.
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Google services has 2,800 wakelocks, iqcarrier at 950, and android system at 660. But yeah, I'll be switching to nk2 for now till, a stable lollipop is out. Haven't had much problems on mdl, just dont like how fast battery drains, etc.
Look at my signature line. There is a link to a battery thread. It deals with those google alarms with extreme prejudice.
Click it.
Follow the instructions.
Enjoy the battery savings.
Is there a flashable zip or definitive list of bloatware apps that are safe to delete that doesnt cause a phone breaking bug for MM OTA update? Spent all of yesterday trying different roms that work with PoGo and ended up bricking my phone. Spent the night fixing it and now I am back on stock MM - hating it having spent the last years ONLY on CM official roms.
Just go to settings/apps and go through them. If it's something the system doesn't have to have to work, it'll have a disable button. It's something you don't use, go ahead and disable it. That way Ota will still work and those apps won't ever run.