Been holding off kk upgrade. Should I let it just go? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

On my note 3,i know if 4.4 I will lost root.
My tablet is not rooted but I might like to to get Microsd access and defrost. If looks like if I upgrade, I can still aquire root
True or not, any reason not to?
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Honeybadger said:
On my note 3,i know if 4.4 I will lost root.
My tablet is not rooted but I might like to to get Microsd access and defrost. If looks like if I upgrade, I can still aquire root
True or not, any reason not to?
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It's like a new tablet performance and function wise. All of Samsung's apps have been refreshed and the browser is especially impressive. Multi Window and Pen Window now support the same apps meaning you can have apps open side-by-side or floating and resizable. Without any modifications I now have 35 apps available in Multi Window. On 4.4 you can also install Hancom Office, e-Meeting, Remote PC, and Side sync bringing the N10.1-2014 up to "Pro" level. People are reporting better battery life and shorter charging times also. I did a dirty flash using a ROM from a different region so I somehow kept the lock screen widgets (which should be gone) and lost Daynote (which should be there). My battery was funky at first; not charging overnight and draining way too quickly. The former fixed itself and the latter was fixed when I deleted my Exchange accounts, cleared app data, and rebuilt them. I think my battery life is better now; it's certainly no worse. I'm going to do a recovery and rebuild my N10.1-2014 (it takes about six hours ) once the 4.4 ROM for my region is out which should clear up any funkiness.
As for external SD, it is what it is. Apps can still use it (individually) for storage so you can keep big files there. Samsung's apps (My Files, Samsung Link, Gallery, Video, and Music) still have universal read/write access and can manipulate all external SD files. So with 4.4 there's some added manual administration and you have to come up with new ways of doing things but it's not the end of the world. And it's not going to change. So you have two choices - stay on 4.3 forever and miss out on a fantastic update or bite the bullet and root. After just four days using the update I can't imagine going back.

BarryH_GEG said:
It's like a new tablet performance and function wise. All of Samsung's apps have been refreshed and the browser is especially impressive. Multi Window and Pen Window now support the same apps meaning you can have apps open side-by-side or floating and resizable. Without any modifications I now have 35 apps available in Multi Window. On 4.4 you can also install Hancom Office, e-Meeting, Remote PC, and Side sync bringing the N10.1-2014 up to "Pro" level. People are reporting better battery life and shorter charging times also. I did a dirty flash using a ROM from a different region so I somehow kept the lock screen widgets (which should be gone) and lost Daynote (which should be there). My battery was funky at first; not charging overnight and draining way too quickly. The former fixed itself and the latter was fixed when I deleted my Exchange accounts, cleared app data, and rebuilt them. I think my battery life is better now; it's certainly no worse. I'm going to do a recovery and rebuild my N10.1-2014 (it takes about six hours ) once the 4.4 ROM for my region is out which should clear up any funkiness.
As for external SD, it is what it is. Apps can still use it (individually) for storage so you can keep big files there. Samsung's apps (My Files, Samsung Link, Gallery, Video, and Music) still have universal read/write access and can manipulate all external SD files. So with 4.4 there's some added manual administration and you have to come up with new ways of doing things but it's not the end of the world. And it's not going to change. So you have two choices - stay on 4.3 forever and miss out on a fantastic update or bite the bullet and root. After just four days using the update I can't imagine going back.
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Thanks, so OTA then root or root then ROM install? Can I root post OTA?
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Barry how are you getting apps to float. I can't figure it out.
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KitKat on this thing is a beast!! The original software with the note was a joke and I'm glad Samsung fixed everything with kitkat

KitKat looks good, but to me it made my external SD READ ONLY. I can't modify any file, not even copy from the internal to the external.

Luigi14 said:
KitKat looks good, but to me it made my external SD READ ONLY. I can't modify any file, not even copy from the internal to the external.
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If you are rooted just install "Folder Mount" from play store, run it , it will fix your sd card issues.

Luigi14 said:
KitKat looks good, but to me it made my external SD READ ONLY. I can't modify any file, not even copy from the internal to the external.
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I thought this was possible with the Samsung My Files file manager?
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aznmode said:
I thought this was possible with the Samsung My Files file manager?
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Yes, Samsung My Files will work with ext SD but it doesn't allow you to rename filename extensions so you can rename a .apk to like .zip so you can bluetooth it across and then rename it back to .apk

warboat said:
Yes, Samsung My Files will work with ext SD but it doesn't allow you to rename filename extensions so you can rename a .apk to like .zip so you can bluetooth it across and then rename it back to .apk
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I'm able to rename any file or move them around from internal to micro sd card, but youre right I can't rename the extension using Myfiles.
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Don't bother! I love Jellybean and I love being rooted...I have so many cool apps ...plus with TB I have frozen all the bloat and get like 14 hours out of my tab...Its super fast, no lag and no headaches with KK. I will never upgrade to KK.
I have everything the Pro series has ..have Milk Music ..etc...
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[Q] Modifying Media Scanner to Read EMMC

I've noticed ROMs such as Uncommon Sense and SkyRaider include a modified media scanner that enables non-HTC apps to access the internal EMMC storage.
I'm currently running Virtuous 3.0.1; is there an apk or other file I can pull from either one of those ROMs to replace my current one, or would it involve a lot more than that?
XideXL said:
I've noticed ROMs such as Uncommon Sense and SkyRaider include a modified media scanner that enables non-HTC apps to access the internal EMMC storage.
I'm currently running Virtuous 3.0.1; is there an apk or other file I can pull from either one of those ROMs to replace my current one, or would it involve a lot more than that?
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It is possible to drag-n-drop a file to get your media scanner to read EMMC. HOWEVER, there are some sacrifices you will have to make for this ability. For one thing, you will bork your ability for the camera application to write to EMMC. The same thing goes for your voice recorder application. You can only write to the sd card directly from these applications. So its your call.
This is something I'd love to see also. While I'm currently on Virtuous, it would be nice for a universal .apk or something to apply in Rom Manager/CWM that works for any rom. I tend to try roms out here and there, so something universal would be very handy.
As for the "loss of functionality". What's the big deal with Pictures? You can save them to SD. I fact, I think mine have always saved to SD. What's the advantage of saving to EMMC > SD? And personally, I never have used Voice Recorder.....
todd3835 said:
This is something I'd love to see also. While I'm currently on Virtuous, it would be nice for a universal .apk or something to apply in Rom Manager/CWM that works for any rom. I tend to try roms out here and there, so something universal would be very handy.
As for the "loss of functionality". What's the big deal with Pictures? You can save them to SD. I fact, I think mine have always saved to SD. What's the advantage of saving to EMMC > SD? And personally, I never have used Voice Recorder.....
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IMHO the emmc isn't used by anything.g except HTC. Saving camera to emmc gives you that much more free space on your SD card
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The reason I'm interested in it is that I only have the crappy 2gb SD card that came with the phone, so I store my 4 gigs of music on EMMC.
I use Launcher Pro and have been wanting a music widget that shows artwork. I've tried a couple out, but they either don't work on DInc (Pure) or I don't like their design (Mixzing).
I recently pulled the Music Mod app from Uncommon Sense for it's widget, which is exactly what I'm looking for. All I need now is for the app to be able to read EMMC and I'll have the widget I've been wanting for so long.
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deficitism said:
It is possible to drag-n-drop a file to get your media scanner to read EMMC. HOWEVER, there are some sacrifices you will have to make for this ability. For one thing, you will bork your ability for the camera application to write to EMMC. The same thing goes for your voice recorder application. You can only write to the sd card directly from these applications. So its your call.
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As for this, I am looking for an integrated solution that won't have these side effects. Again because I only have a 2gb SD card, which is mostly used up by 2 nandroid backups and titanium backup for all my apps/settings, leaving a tiny bit of room for me to download a ROM or two on there if need be.
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There are two ways to do it. Use the media scanner code in cyanogenmod witch now scans the /mnt directory not just /mnt/sdcard. You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
xdarkfirex said:
There are two ways to do it. Use the media scanner code in cyanogenmod witch now scans the /mnt directory not just /mnt/sdcard. You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
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I have some coding experience, but unfortunately I'm not at all familiar with the internals of android. Any idea where can I locate the code for the media scanner from within cyanogenmod?
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XideXL said:
I have some coding experience, but unfortunately I'm not at all familiar with the internals of android. Any idea where can I locate the code for the media scanner from within cyanogenmod?
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http://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...mmit/aa20f4dbf99f9f11122e560a2087d8999728c71f
Thanks k_flan!
Unfortunately as I've said, I'm a noob with Android programming. At the risk of being a bit annoying, would anyone be so kind as to tell this beginner how I can compile/build this code into something I can slap on my device? I have Eclipse set up with the Android SDK and everything, I've just never done anything with it. I notice this code is part of a service rather than just a run of the mill apk, so I'm assuming I can't just pull a file and replace it on my end, but I don't know how something like that does work.
I'm still trying to figure out what good having 8gb of internal storage is when nothing seems to be able to make use of it.
Sure, I can copy files to it, MP3s, etc, but the music player doesn't seem to look there since I have an 8gb card installed as well.
(Yeah, I know I can use Astro or something to go play them -- but that's not really convenient...)
xdarkfirex said:
... You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
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I somehow doubt this would work ... and if it did, not cause problems.
From the stand point of liunx, mounting emmc to a directory on the sim card is actually a very good method if your after simply playing music. If your after any of the other functionality the phone may use the internal storage for then your assed out, but to just access music. Good plan.
For me, I'd care less about saving pictures to SD versus EMMC. I'm more concerned about the 2-3 gigs of music being on EMMC than to be forced to save pictures to SD (which is what it's doing be default on every rom I've used anyways). As someone pointed out, what good is my 8 gigs of internal memory doing if I can't use it for music or videos. Yes, the problem is more so that apps like TuneWiki should add the function that the stock player has (don't tell me it can't be done, if there are apps already doing it). But if there's a work around that has what feels like a small sacrifice, I don't understand the big deal. I am not saying all roms should come with this as a stock setting, but if someone were to be able to whip up something that will work across roms, that would be nifty =]

Unable to move any apps to new SanDisk 64gb class 10 sdcard

I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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Yup, same problem here. Hopefully someone will find a way of working around that soon.
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Yup you said it, samsung made a stupid desicion wit that
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keinam.ty said:
I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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There's a thread that goes into great detail on this problem in the international gs3 section. It's actually Google who's coding this in now, but alot of manufacturers are using a workaround, but not samsung. The card is pretty much good for music, movies, and any large downloads you may want to transfer there. To my knowledge Cyanogenmod & possibly AOKP still work the way it should, but touchwiz based roms will not. There is an app somewhere on XDA that will allow you to store large data files for games to the sd, but again, I believe it's in the i9300 forum. I hope this will help you some.
Edit: check out xda tv on YouTube, and there's a recent video from the new girl Erica where she covers some type of work around for the gs3 I think?
Thanks, that almost sounds like it's better to root? Touch Wiz isn't that bad but I am not a fan of it. Samsung was nice to let us disable all bloatware but making the sd card useless is really idiotic. I almost want to say what's the point of the scared then?
I'll do ssome more research on this thanks.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
stevessvt said:
If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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An interesting thought, I can definitively move data to external card – I’ll try this tonight and report back. Thought even if this works it still isn’t a solution.
For example;
1. Many backup applications hardcode the SDCard’s location which in this case it always will be internal memory
2. Navigation data gets downloaded into internal memory
3. Google music gets downloaded into internal memory, I could not find any option to move it – its simply unavailable.
4. I don’t have to move all apps to the external card, but the few games/apps stored in the external card sounds like a good idea sine those are not essential for me (especially the once with lots of storage requirements).
5. Any podcasts / videos also won’t go to the external storage
6. Some applications lets you backup their settings like preferences RSS lists etc – all those also go to internal memory.
In my opinion the following must happen:
1. “All developers” must update their applications to accommodate for S3’s changed card location
2. Google must update its code and allow apps / data move to external card.
I’ll call t-mobile to see whatever they have to say about this.
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
If your going to return it, simply use Odin to go back to factory fresh stock.
I think this is a push for more of us to use cloud storage which is cool but I like using physical sd card for storage..
I'm having to make do with my 16gb internal as games get bigger and eat up storage. My 64gb is almost useless if I had known this I would have gotten like a 32gb card and saved some cash.
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But don't return this phone. It's still legendary!
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I agree, this phone is FAN-FUKING-TRAGIC.. Best phone by far. Ummm, how do we use the cloud to store stuff though? And could we use it to move apps and free up space? Sorry if my questions are dumb to some, just not sure what the cloud is
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Did you try doing what I said?
The cloud is pretty much a usb stick u don't have to carry around with you. You can't store installed apps there but you can store anything else on it like apks to install later music, docs. Pretty much anything you would store on a usb.
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@ stevessvt Yes I have but it did not work - I am pretty sure I screwed something up 
I don’t think I will be returning this phone, there isn’t anything better on T-Mobile unfortunately and S3 has better specs then Latest Nexus. Now I think I will research about S3 rooting and whether it makes sense to root this phone and put custom ROM on it.
Thanks everyone!
This isn't Samsungs doing, it's how Google has made android from ics on. Other manufacturers that make their phones able to install apps on your external sd are using a workaround by modifying the code, but I've read that it's really not ideal? If your using titanium backup to keep your apps backed up then you need to run a backup. Then go into your internal sd & move the TB folder to your external sd. Go back into titanium backup & select preferences from the settings menu. There select backup folder location & hit the Detect button. Now your backups should go to external storage.
You can also go under settings in the stock Web browser & change your download location to external so that large roms download to external sd. If your using the new version of twrp for the Tmo gs3 that they released today, then you can check the box under backup that says backup to external. That will also save room on your internal storage.
Personally I prefer all of my apps on internal. They open faster & write data much faster to internal then to an sd card. I really only use my sd card for holding movies, backups, & large file downloads. As I stated in my previous post, AOKP & Cyanogenmod still can install apps to sd if that's what you prefer. I honestly think we should be able to choose for ourselves, but unfortunately I don't make the rules. If you look in the international section I read a thread somewhere that had an app that will let you store the large data files from games on your external storage. That's the only apps that really take up a significant amount of space. Music can take up a lot of space, but with Google play music keeping 20gb of music in the cloud for you, that shouldn't be much of an issue to those of us who are in good coverage areas. I hope this helped some of you to maximize your storage space.
Just a friendly advice...T-Mobile is the last place you want to go for any answers. The people who work there (most, not all) are complete stupid over the top freakin' idiots. They know nothing and often times just search their data base or google something for answers. Most 99.9% do not have any first hand knowledge of anything about phones. They just know the same $#!t you can read off the box....
Complete idiots..
Anyhow, just hang tight as I'm sure there will be work around this in the very near future. It's not a big deal at all.... just do what fellow member: stevessvt said...it works....
Good luck!
keinam.ty said:
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
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I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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es7241 said:
I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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Games and some utilities apps, my iPhone was 32 gb after 6 months I had 3 gb left and only 1gb of music
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Let me first off apologize for getting a lil off topic with this question, however, I Just got the SGS3 (which by the way is the GREATEST PHONE EVER MADE!!! If God or Allah or Buda or whatever higher up, power that be owned a phone... It would be this one. LOL) OK, back on track now. So I'm coming from an HTC phone and I have a TON of bookmarks stored on my browser that I want to transfer over to my new phone. My question is, where can I find my browsers bookmarks using file explorer so that I can zip it up in a file to send to my phones browser? Or is there a better, easier way to do this??
Please help
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[Q] Why to Root Note 2?

Hello all, i recently bought Note2. I switched over from my 2 years old HTC desire which i had rooted in the very first month for various reasons.
Just to give you a background i am not against rooting. But i believe, since we are taking this risk, it should really be worth it. For my HTC, it had 128 mb of internal memory, no official upgrades and i loved cm. So it was all worth it.
Looking at Note2 it a better looking version of cyanogenmod. (off-course will a few features missing). Although i was used to reflashing my Desire every month, i havent found any substantial reason for rooting NOTE2. It has regular updates biggass memory and HDD. very fast CPU
Only thing i miss is a more powerful flashlight (Torch) and a stock 5x5 TW launcher (i am using go launcher now to leverage the screen real estate). So apart from this and that i've heard Gmail 4.2 has pinch and zoom. I havent heard of any substantial gains by rooting NOTE2.
Please list what are the advantages of rooting NOTE2. i know the advantages of rooting in genral. i am specifically talking of note 2. Also i dont want to you all to list advantages like nandroid backup CWM recovery etc. since my contacts sms / call logs and apps are already being backed up at google / dropbox / Evernote.. I am loking for something substantial.
I have a post questioning the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943960
Baisically the only reason I woukd root is for the following (might not apply to you):
OpenVPN with TAP support.
SSH tunnel
TitaniumBackup
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The Note 2 will be the first phone I don't root. There's really no need, IMO.
The Samsung software with it's S-Pen features is a bit too complex to trust "ROM chefs" and such. I'll just enjoy it as-is.
Also other fonts and "adfree" are reasons for me
Greetings.
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rumy said:
I have a post questioning the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943960
Baisically the only reason I woukd root is for the following (might not apply to you):
OpenVPN with TAP support.
SSH tunnel
TitaniumBackup
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Thanks for the quick response. Specially the link. Most folks on the thread state that custom roms or even root has not been a great benefit to them in case of Note2. i do not need the above functionality you mentioned since the only reason i need vpn / ssh is to connect to work. Which i do from my laptop. But i will be on the look out for anything that pops up. Thanks again
My reason for rooting ANY android phone is...
Adaway
I'm sick and tired of flashing custom roms because I have found that after playing around with stock roms, I revert back to "stock firmware" anyway. So i just stick to stock samsung firmware. There really is no need to root for other than getting rid of the adds (i use adaway).
1. Titanium backup
2. Nandroid Backup
3. Debloat the rom with stuff i don`t need with ROMCleaner
4. Adblocking
5. Flashing mods like increae incall volume, brightess.
6. Flashing stock firmware and keep root with Mobile Odin
7. Raise the readahead values to load up apps, webpages, and other stuff faster
8. Overclock for performance or undervolt the kernel to save power.
Other users might also have other reasons so enough reason to do it i guess
Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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The Note 2 is not out in the US yet (I'm so tempted to buy the International version) but when I do get it I plan on rooting it for Titanium Backup and Ad Free and a lot of root apps that I use but I don't see a point in flashing a custom ROM on it.. Its so perfect without it.. Wish it came with Tablet mode.. I love having my status bar at the bottom of my screen...
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saadi703 said:
Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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+1. In my opinion, this is ultimately the only reason for rooting - all the rest can be done in other ways.
However, some applications like orange cinema series (in France) check if the telephone is rooted - if so they won't work. Ultimately, rooting is becoming a very debatable benefit today - up to the next release of Android 5.0 on the New S5 processor. At that moment, i am sure that Samsung will delay updates as much as they can, since the hardware improvements become more marginal (with the exception, of course, of LTE) and therefore a differentiating factor between latest models and 1 year old devices. And then, all back to AOKP and CM27...
I say this by experience: my galaxy S I9000 works like a charm with Jelly Bean, and it would still be a froyo telephone if i would follow ORANGE F....
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Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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Do you really need more than 11 gig of internal memory? Assuming you transfer move your songs videos and other pictures etc in ur external.. why do you need more than 11 gb of internal?
Needs a root for things like sixaxis controller. Pretty cool to be able to use a wireless PS3 DualShock controller to play your favorite games.
For me the most important thing about rooting is themes, i hate stock theme(grey windows etc) and i love transparent status bar, other things wich pusch me to go for a root is basicly posibility to remove stock apps, custom kernels wich give u better performance and battery life and offcorse for my mod sd2extsd wich give u oportunity to save more things on ur phone(games and apps)
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I'd have to say solely for themes and removing bloatware with a custom rom to get the most of the ram availability.
11GB is tiny - particularly if you want a coupe of good games (you know you do lol) - apart from the 1-2GB of physical space the app takes (even when storing saves etc on SD) INSTALLING them takes more space and many require several more gigs ONLY during the install process (presume for unpacking etc) so you have to leave a couple of giggs free - leaving you with 8-9GB of usable space - not a lot.
If you use no games at all I agree 11GB might just do but other apps will fill it quick - eg: snote stores all its notes in internal SD (only small but multiply a few notes a day x a couple of years - it all adds up)
My friend has a 16GB SGNI - NO GAMES, but any medical apps (each 20-200M) and he's struggling for space
I just don't want to be limited (that's the whole reason I'm leaving ios for my mobile)
Ad blocking, and Nandroid alone are the main reasons why I rooted my phone..... there's also lucky patcher.....
I think you are confusing rooting with loading up a rom. Rooting is a must for a lot of users who want to customize. For example, let's say you want to use an NFC tag in your car to turn off wifi, turn on bluetooth and turn on GPS. This will work fine all the way up to the GPS part, which requires rooting to make it automated.
As others mentioned, titanium backup and other software needs it as well.
Rooting unlocks possibilities, it isn't loading CM.
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Don't worry about rooting until you find a need for it (get tired of ads, overclocking or just a general love for tweaking the build.prop file or any of the various apps requiring root access). Until then, just enjoy your phone
Advantage of rooting galaxy note 2
One of the advantages of rooting Galaxy note 2 is that it will start ready NTFS hdd and usb on-to-go....
It's not really necessary to root this phone in my opinion. Amazing phone and the first one I've owned which has left me wanting for nothing.
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Tiny reader to add android phone's storage
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57607574-251/meenova-adds-a-microsd-reader-to-android-devices/
Have you purchased one of these?
jeffpan said:
Tiny reader to add android phone's storage
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This looks like a great idea, but I'm wondering how they hold up. (I always worry about losing the caps to my keychain thumbdrives. :silly:
It Works, But
I got one. A nice little piece of kit. But so far it isn't a seemless experience.
The default Apps don't seem to recognize it. Neither Gallery nor QuickPic will find any of the photos on it until I navigate to it using ES File Explorer. Gallery will only show the photo I open from File Explorer. QuickPic will allow me to browse the directory of a photo I select, but not move up the directory tree.
As for music files, Play Music will do so for the file selected from ES File, but won't allow me to search the memory card.
CedarSprings said:
I got one. A nice little piece of kit. But so far it isn't a seemless experience.
The default Apps don't seem to recognize it. Neither Gallery nor QuickPic will find any of the photos on it until I navigate to it using ES File Explorer. Gallery will only show the photo I open from File Explorer. QuickPic will allow me to browse the directory of a photo I select, but not move up the directory tree.
As for music files, Play Music will do so for the file selected from ES File, but won't allow me to search the memory card.
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Cedarsprings thanks for letting us know.. Kinda interested now!
Do u have root on ur Moto X? If so, can you pls give chainfire's stickmount from the play store a shot?
I think it may solve your problem by auto mounting the OTG device on boot.
If it works, I'm definitely getting one for my X too!
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dr3wster said:
Cedarsprings thanks for letting us know.. Kinda interested now!
Do u have root on ur Moto X? If so, can you pls give chainfire's stickmount from the play store a shot?
I think it may solve your problem by auto mounting the OTG device on boot.
If it works, I'm definitely getting one for my X too!
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Nice! As soon as I read Cedarsprings review I was kinda bummed cause I just ordered one of these today. But if stickmount works, this little drive will be my new favorite toy
When I had my nexus 7 and used some random OTG, it worked like a charm on it .. So here's hoping! The meenova looks so much more schmick than the clunky OTG I used to have!!
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Not Rooted Yet
While I got the Developer Edition, I haven't rooted it yet as I'm still deciding whether or not to put either my company e-mail (with their MaaS360 Mobile Device Management) or my client's e-mail (and its Citrix Recevier security - speaking of, what poor reviews!). Either Maas360 will detect Root, or it is just company "policy" to not allow rooted devices, and I'm still trying to find out which is is before I move on things.
I'd thought changing the USB Computer Connection setting in teh Storage settings from Media Device (MTP) to Camera (PTP) might help, but no joy. In fact, I was a bit surprised that there wasn't anything about the attached device there.
And while I'd also like to get Titanium Backup in place, there aren't any ROMs with real appealing capabilities that are pushing me to unlock and root. Now, when there's a Menu patch like Jason Robitaille's Advanced Launcer Options in WebOS, I'll be rooted & ROMing in a heartbeat.
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CedarSprings
dr3wster said:
Cedarsprings thanks for letting us know.. Kinda interested now!
Do u have root on ur Moto X? If so, can you pls give chainfire's stickmount from the play store a shot?
I think it may solve your problem by auto mounting the OTG device on boot.
If it works, I'm definitely getting one for my X too!
Sent from my XT1058
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CedarSprings said:
While I got the Developer Edition, I haven't rooted it yet as I'm still deciding whether or not to put either my company e-mail (with their MaaS360 Mobile Device Management) or my client's e-mail (and its Citrix Recevier security - speaking of, what poor reviews!). Either Maas360 will detect Root, or it is just company "policy" to not allow rooted devices, and I'm still trying to find out which is is before I move on things.
I'd thought changing the USB Computer Connection setting in teh Storage settings from Media Device (MTP) to Camera (PTP) might help, but no joy. In fact, I was a bit surprised that there wasn't anything about the attached device there.
And while I'd also like to get Titanium Backup in place, there aren't any ROMs with real appealing capabilities that are pushing me to unlock and root. Now, when there's a Menu patch like Jason Robitaille's Advanced Launcer Options in WebOS, I'll be rooted & ROMing in a heartbeat.
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CedarSprings
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Totally understandable .. I think in theory it should work, but just wasn't sure about motox compatibility with the stickmount and otg setup... Apparently Motorola phones dont seem to work with Carbon/Helium backup so I was wondering if something in the system might interrupt the setup.
hells yeah... Another webOS fan!! So rare to find one these days.. I'm only on Android becuz things went south ... At least matias is design the UI for android now.. And with HP's alleged intention to sell webOS patents, we just might find that Android becomes more webOS-y in the future!
The patch system was awesome! I think Rod Whitby setup Nexus Internals a while back when HP started giving up on webOS... Not sure if they are working on any solutions similar to preware? Closed framework is very similar in concept tho... Have u installed it?
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Whoops my bad.. Forgot xposed framework needs root lol.. Sorry about that!
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Response from Meenov
I sent a note to the Meenov support site yesterday, giving them a heads-up about the Moto X issue and this thread, and got this quick response:
"Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately that's because Moto X removed certain support for external USB storage, while Moto's other models (Droid series) have better support for external USB storage."
So hopefully the smarter among us will figure out what the problem is and it in a future ROM.
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CedarSprings
Just got mine in, works with ES like a champ, which is all I care about. Great little accessory.
_MetalHead_ said:
Just got mine in, works with ES like a champ, which is all I care about. Great little accessory.
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How do you write file into SD card on your phone? Need rooted or not?
jeffpan said:
How do you write file into SD card on your phone? Need rooted or not?
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No root needed. I just use es file explorer. It comes up as a folder in /storage.
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Any news with Root Explorer working with the Meenov without any hassles?
lensgrabber said:
Any news with Root Explorer working with the Meenov without any hassles?
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Works fine for me.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Works fine for me.
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Okay great. I just ordered one.
_MetalHead_ said:
No root needed. I just use es file explorer. It comes up as a folder in /storage.
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Is it stock rom? what format of SD card do you use? FAT32, exFAT etc. And does it automatically mounted?
jeffpan said:
Is it stock rom? what format of SD card do you use? FAT32, exFAT etc. And does it automatically mounted?
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Stock ROM, FAT32, and sort of. It doesn't need to mount like a typical SD card. Plug it in and it will automatically show up in /storage. Unplug it when done, no need or way to unmount.
_MetalHead_ said:
Stock ROM, FAT32, and sort of. It doesn't need to mount like a typical SD card. Plug it in and it will automatically show up in /storage. Unplug it when done, no need or way to unmount.
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Really cool.:good:
Just ordered one. Should be here in a few days. Thx OP
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Ok, so I've had mine for about a week now and it works great with my 32GB UHS-1 class card.
To get your media to read in other apps, such as music in Google Play Music, download the app by Chainfire called Stickmount. Mount the Meenov. Second, if you wanna go the free route, download the app called Rescan Media Root and run it. (obviously, you need to have root access) Give it about 10-20 seconds (your Meenov will start to blink) and your music should start appearing in Google Play Music. Just remember to Unmount when you want to remove the Meenov reader. And to remove all your music stored on the card that still appears in Google Play Music, run Rescan Media Root again.
Or, you can just drop $2.49 on the pro version of Stickmount and it will automatically trigger a rescan on mount and unmount.

KitKat causing SD card problems - woah intentional?

This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
Leibeck explains what this means to users, writing,
“If your device has user-accessible internal flash storage, your SD Card is a “secondary external storage device”.
What this means is that with KitKat, applications will no longer be able create, modify, or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network. This ability, which has existed since the beginning of Android, has been taken away.”
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Mystery? said:
This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
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This is horrible.....shame on google
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
Google mess it up on purpose, to force people to use their cloud services and be bombarded by their advertising, that's how they make money and their official explanation to improve security is so lame. Anyhow, hopefully Samsung will fix it sooner or later, or you can root it and fix it yourself, loosing warranty in the process. I took the high road and will not update, until a) it's all fixed or b) my warranty runs out and won't care about Knox at all.
Google gets on my nerves lately, first they messed up new maps update (at least I got option to stay on old version for now) and now this.
rosedog said:
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
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So should I not up date the software.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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So should I not up date the software.
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I hear ya. 32gb is more than I need.. makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
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I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
Exfex21 said:
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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Limeybastard said:
I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
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Yes, you can still move some apps to the SD card.
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Pajar0913 said:
I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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I still can go to settings and change to save the pictures to the SD card. It's the app data, not pictures that you can't move to an SD card.
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
jax omen said:
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
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If you're rooted there is a fix. it's in the kitkat qa thread in the dev section. Seems to work fine.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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Why not force apps to be defaulted to internal unless user unchecks that option for people using developers menu and/or root. Sort of like force gpu rendering option.

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