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Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?
Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...
Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.
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Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.
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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...
Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea
Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....
I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.
im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.
any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested
Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.
I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.
And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially
This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.
hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with
Okay guys.
So I just got my 4S back from these guys, and wow, I am honestly amazed.
I saw them on my local news a few days ago, and figured what the hell. Apparently they put your phone through a process that binds their product on a molecular level, and makes it "waterproof" I didn't think it'd work as good as in the videos but it really does.
Essentially what happens is, you pay and ship your phone to them. Within a day of receiving it, they treat your phone and send it back. (can do the express version for 10$ more)
I sent my phone in on a monday, received it back on that thursday. I then decided to put it to the test. filled up my sink (about a foot and a half deep), closed my eyes, and submerged my 4s. To my astonishment, I opened my eyes and the screen was still on! I was even able to type a message to my girlfriend telling her I was texting her from underwater xD
I then answered a call in the shower the next morning and all worked fine! Its been a week since Ive gotten my phone back and have done the sink trick countless times to impress my friends, and it still works like new hehe. just thought id share, seeing as a good waterproof case for the 4s is about 20$ more.
http://www.liquipel.com
edit: I figured the accessories thread was the best place, let me know if you feel otherwise ;P
heres a good demo i found of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsSPZCGmuY
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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try emailing them? I thought i read somewhere on there site that they can usually make accommodations for devices not on the list..
And they JUST started taking orders at CES, so they should expand the supported devices soon if theyre doing this good. pretty great start imo xD
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Ah. Well that might be a problem then xD
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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It said it was a mail in program... international mail... phone back in like 3 weeks lol
edit:The following devices are approved to be Liquipelled:
Apple iPhone 4s
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3g/s
HTC Evo 4G
HTC Evo Shift 4G
HTC MyTouch 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Motorola Droid X/X2
Samsung Charge
Wow that is amazing!!
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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Good question. You might have to email them on that one. I don't have to worry about it since my battery isn't "removable" lol
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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It sounds like your completely guessing at what "it" does and how its applied. I on the other hand decided to investigate BEFORE acting as if i knew what it was we are discussing.
1. Its applied via vapor,in a vacuum chamber environment, so as to completely coat inside and out, all parts of said device. The coating is 1000 times thinner than a human hair and therefor does not change the way the phone feels or functions(screen response)
2. speakers are not effected because they too are waterproofed in the same nano tech molecular bonding process.
3. When you submerge your device once coated, water does completely run THROUGH your device. Short circuit cannot be obtained because the liquid cannot make contact to the positive and negative/grounding surfaces because of said thin/nano layer of protection. although it repels liquids, it still allows all existing electrical pathways to function without flaw, and will conduct electricity thus allowing for the capacitive functions to work also.
4. This technology was not designed to make your phone "UNDERWATER" proof, and they recommend not submerging any device in liquid. In the case that your phone falls from your hoodie pocket into the toilet, you can retrieve (and hopefully) rinse your device before electrical failure/short occurs. Its a backup plan for accidents, not a solution for mobile underwater photography or social networking.
These statements are not conjecture. this is what happens when you read and investigate what youve read.
If your gonna troll, at least take the time to know what your talking about. F'in trolls!
Not trolling, just thought this was the "old" method previously adopted (was it by Vertu?).
If you call anyone a troll for showing interest then I guess you would be alone in this world as a non-troll, just saiyan
Did you even read what you wrote??? Words like "probably", and other staments like "naturally closed" make you sound like an idiot, which im sure you are not... but if you are gonna post in a category, wouldnt it help to know the subject your posting about. The information is there and one should not have to ?guess?
I on the other hand became very curious about said tech, and therefor did the research needed to contribute to this discussion.
There are no what if this happens in this case because the are selling a tested product, and have limited device compatibility - for now.
I was hoping that when i saw a new post on this thread that it was someone with valuable information, trying to fill gapps of knowledge, but it was just "what if's" and "probably's"... come on. If you want to pm me about what ive learned about this product, ill be happy to share anything else i have with anyone. I am here to learn, not waste valuable time reading conjecture based on nothing.
Hey smart guy why would you come here looking for information when you already know everything?
Even if I was still interested, I wouldn't ask someone like you (just letting you know so you dont have to constantly check you pm)
Later buddy
Seriously guys. This is to get other peoples opinion about the product. No need to argue
Okay, so, I found out the hard way that even with a hard-shell-back case on the S4, it is very much NOT pocket friendly. Last week (5 days ago), I put my S4 (which i've babied from day 1 and looks brand freakin' new), pull it out of my pocket 5 minutes later to a dead screen. After some fiddling by taking everything out and plugging it back in, I found the screen kind of came back but failed again shortly after that. The S4 felt light to begin with, I didn't think there's a shred of metal anywhere in the device to provide a supportive internal structure to keep things from bending in a way they shouldn't (one of the reasons I bought the case at T-Mo's 80% markup)... After calling in to claim on my warranty (this thing is 6 months old), I brought it into a store and spoke with a rep who said it looked perfect otherwise, brand new, however he confirmed my suspicions that they're only plastic framed. This design is great for many reasons, weight being one, but horrible for things such as pockets, imagine if I had sat down in a car with it in my pocket instead of just walking down the stairs at work and using a urinal... the thing would have been obliterated, even in it's hard-back case. Wanted to get out there and find out if anyone else has had some issues with the S4 and pocket incidents.
To note, I have a random replacement device coming back because they didn't have an S4 on back-back-order and decided rather than to make me wait, they just shipped something android to me, probably not an S4, and if it is, it's black, which I will promptly return because I live in Arizona and black is the worst idea for a color of anything out here unless you want it to be hotter than hell when you touch it. Let's hope they got me something good, not HTC, and not black, I suspect I'm gonna lose this roulette and be stuck with this awful HTC HD7 (WinPhone7, fml) for a while, while I go back and forth with T-Mo to get my replacement android device.
No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
@elesbb your to much
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elesbb said:
Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I second the pics or it didn't happen.
Bonus points if you're wearing guyliner.
I read the other thread on this subject in the I9505/I9500 forums... No one asked this question, what is your BMI (weight (lbs) divided by height (inches) squared multiplied by 703)? Just curious. Mine is 26.4 (considered overweight, can't argue with belly pudge), I wear skinny to straight pants, rocking a Neo Hybrid case - no issues or concerns (aside from the occasional stretch-out-leg-while-sitting-to-pull-phone-out issue). I walk up and down roughly 20 flights of stairs a day, use the urinal 3-4xs, and generally go about my day with my primary device damage concern coming from placing my keys in same pocket and droppage.
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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My thoughts exactly lol
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Lol, tell me about it. :good:
Cynagen said:
Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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i was referring to skinny jeans lol im not that in shape myself
Actually this is kind of what happened to mine, only mine bent the frame along with the busted screen. Mind you this was a hot day and this particular car's A/C (1997 Saturn SL2) is slow to work on hot days (although it feels fine when it's warm but not humid). no more than 15 minutes in my pocket, *break*. of course I had my wallet next to mine.
I have mine in the Leather flip book case and its stable and durable enough to last in my pocket. i have had a slight issue with pocket dialing though, but probably because im not shutting off the screen before closing the case and putting it away.
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Can you tell me why? I think should be no problem.http://www.1buy.com/6-inch-zopo-zp9...creen-1gb-ram-16gb-rom-13mp-camera-white.html
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that is disgusting.
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that is disgusting.
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Looks like a Galaxy Mega without the physical home button...
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I've kept mine in my pocket for 3 months and have had no problem with it, other than it falls out of my pocket occasionally when I'm in the car.
Mine always wants to turn on its side in my pocket and sit horizontal instead of vertical... That's annoying.
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So, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this yet, but there is another trinket of info that points to the book cover being actively sensed by this tablet. When poking around in settings, I happened across this little feature.
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So, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this yet, but there is another trinket of info that points to the book cover being actively sensed by this tablet. When poking around in settings, I happened across this little feature.
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A video shows the function in action.
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Ummmmmm... What did he say... Luckily for me I'm a visual person... Lol
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Ummmmmm... What did he say... Luckily for me I'm a visual person... Lol
...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...
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We need an Italian translator! I speak Spanish and English, so I can kinda get some of it, but he was going so fast it's hard lol
Does anyone know WHERE we can actually buy this book cover?
Man, Samsung does not make it easy. They need to support their products more. iPad 5 will have about a million accessories all over the place.
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Does anyone know WHERE we can actually buy this book cover?
Man, Samsung does not make it easy. They need to support their products more. iPad 5 will have about a million accessories all over the place.
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Samsung has had a terrible launch for its S-Note line. I've had my Note 3 for over a week and still no sign of official accessories anywhere whether in-store or at Amazon.
Same for the note 10.1 2014.
If you want to charge these high prices you better provide an apple-esque experience and that means no headaches for anything including finding accessories.
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Samsung has had a terrible launch for its S-Note line. I've had my Note 3 for over a week and still no sign of official accessories anywhere whether in-store or at Amazon.
Same for the note 10.1 2014.
If you want to charge these high prices you better provide an apple-esque experience and that means no headaches for anything including finding accessories.
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I was able to get a genuine S-View cover from Verizon, but only through telesales, not online or in the store.
Is that advertised anywhere? No.
Does Samsung's official site list any covers or cases? No.
They suck so bad at accessories. It's ridiculous.
Yeah Samsung's last few product launches have been the same, no accessories until a few weeks after.
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Yeah Samsung's last few product launches have been the same, no accessories until a few weeks after.
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That's better than Google, they take months lol
I can confirm it does wake the tablet. I don't have the smart cover, but I do have a keyboard with a "smart cover"that turns it on and off. Placing it over the screen, or even on the back, trips the magnetometer, putting the tablet to sleep. Removing it wakes it up into a quick note/dashboard type of program.
I bought a sleeve that is actually for an iPad and daynote does work. It's not working every time but every now and again I'm presented with a special screen after removing the note from its sleeve.
Best Buy tells me it will be in stock this week. Either with their Monday shipment or Thursday shipment.
We'll see. Given that their Samsung Experience employees didn't even know it was releasing the week before it did, I don't put much stock into what they say.
nonononono
Before you try any magnet cases, test if the digitizer survives it. i had one on my note 8.0 and it had a big impact on the wacom digitizer, when drawing i would get close to 10mm of offset or the area around the magnet didn't work at all. When i noticed this i immediately performed a little surgery and now the case is a dumb piece of leather. Luckily i noticed it pretty quickly so i got no permanent damage. I'm not sure if permanent damage CAN be done with such a weak magnet, but look out
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Before you try any magnet cases, test if the digitizer survives it. i had one on my note 8.0 and it had a big impact on the wacom digitizer, when drawing i would get close to 10mm of offset or the area around the magnet didn't work at all. When i noticed this i immediately performed a little surgery and now the case is a dumb piece of leather. Luckily i noticed it pretty quickly so i got no permanent damage. I'm not sure if permanent damage CAN be done with such a weak magnet, but look out
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Wow seriously? This kind of scares me as I am using the Moko case. But you know I don't think the Note 8.0 was made to be utilized with a magnet. Seeing that the Note 10.1 2014 is made to wake up with the use of a magnet, I think they made have designed it to be magnet friendly.
I could eb wrong, because I returned my Note 8.0
Yes, you might be right but look out. You dont want a tablet thats at a higher price because of something that breaks because of you not using a correct case.
Ps. In the second sentence "you" is meant for everyone and not to offend Slim
Does their official book cover have a magnet?
Edit: The prototype at the Samsung show did not. Hmm.
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SlimJ87D said:
Does their official book cover have a magnet?
Edit: The prototype at the Samsung show did not. Hmm.
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On the Note 3, the "View" cover uses a Hall effect sensor I have read.
What I noticed about this cover is that it seems to cover the camera when it is folded over the back??
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Best Buy tells me it will be in stock this week. Either with their Monday shipment or Thursday shipment.
We'll see. Given that their Samsung Experience employees didn't even know it was releasing the week before it did, I don't put much stock into what they say.
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Nope, they don't really know release dates on anything. I've been asking the Samsung guy about Note 3 cases, he tells me a day, and they never come in.
Was just over at BB today, asking him if they had the cases, when another lady came up and wanted to know also. WTF, is up with Samsung and the slow releases of these accessories for both Note 3 and 10.1??
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On the Note 3, the "View" cover uses a Hall effect sensor I have read.
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A hall effect sensor requires a magnet.
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A hall effect sensor requires a magnet.
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Heh! Yeah you're right!
Here's what I was thinking when I said that.
The magnet can be on either side. So not necessarily on the cover. "Could" be steel on the cover, but probably not.
Like for instance, I am putting a hall sensor on a Motorcycle presently. The magnet is in the sensor itself. The trigger wheel is steel.
So steel goes through the field and causes the trigger.
But it seems that the magnet here "should" be on the cover. Otherwise all steel would trigger the sensor and screw with the display.
I did run a magnet near my screen and couldn't get it to switch even after fooling with the S-View settings.
Does anyone have experience with this case?
https://www.amazon.com/ZHIKE-Magnet...t=&hvlocphy=9030800&hvtargid=pla-780766905303
My fear is that if one were to drop the device the case would come apart on impact and fly off, therefore leaving the device exposed to bounce around unprotected. I really like this case though.
Any thoughts?
treetolber said:
Does anyone have experience with this case?
https://www.amazon.com/ZHIKE-Magnet...t=&hvlocphy=9030800&hvtargid=pla-780766905303
My fear is that if one were to drop the device the case would come apart on impact and fly off, therefore leaving the device exposed to bounce around unprotected. I really like this case though.
Any thoughts?
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Pretty sure that's already been discussed elsewhere, apparently cases using magnets mess with the GPS, I wouldn't trust it to protect the phone at all though.
Been using this one from day 1 without any problems:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B01BWKZSUS/
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I did have one very similar (found on a Facebook ad and figured I'd try it, probably same product just rebranded) and it definitely did negatively impact my GPS performance, so now I'm back to using the clear case that came with the phone unfortunately. It also let a decent bit of pocket lint and dust get in between the screen and the case as well, so you'd have to constantly take it apart and clean it just for it to get dirty again almost immediately. Great idea for a product, but it ends up delivering a poor user experience.
I can tell from past experiences, not all magnetic cases are created equal lol. I love them, but the ones for the OnePlus 7 pro suck. Lint and dust collect horribly. GPS goes haywire, and the magnets also screw with the phones reception. I could go from full bars, and perfect signal without a case, to no signal at all with the case on.
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Pretty sure that's already been discussed elsewhere, apparently cases using magnets mess with the GPS, I wouldn't trust it to protect the phone at all though.
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you really should stop spreading misinformation...
magnets = compass
GPS = satellites/WiFi/Bluetooth
two very different things..
Sourcing: https://itstillworks.com/magnet-damage-gps-12185913.html
plasticarmyman said:
you really should stop spreading misinformation...
magnets = compass
GPS = satellites/WiFi/Bluetooth
two very different things..
Sourcing: https://itstillworks.com/magnet-damage-gps-12185913.html
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...and you really should read the forum posts of users, who have actually bought these cases, who have said they definitely noticed a degradation in the quality of GPS performance, I didn't make it up for fun.
Quite apart from any modification of the signals to the phone, however debatatable it might be, they provide completely inadequate protection, especially from drop/shock damage, which is the primary purposes of a phone case.
They're gimmicks, nothing more.
djsubterrain said:
...and you really should read the forum posts of users, who have actually bought these cases, who have said they definitely noticed a degradation in the quality of GPS performance, I didn't make it up for fun.
Quite apart from any modification of the signals to the phone, however debatatable it might be, they provide completely inadequate protection, especially from drop/shock damage, which is the primary purposes of a phone case.
They're gimmicks, nothing more.
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anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
plasticarmyman said:
anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
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I can speak only for myself that the magnetic case for the OnePlus 7 pro does effect the GPS. Without the case my GPS is perfectly reliable. With it keeps on re routing and telling me I'm not where I actually am.
But I've used magnetic cases on other phones and everything was perfectly fine
plasticarmyman said:
anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
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Bro stop if you've never used these piece of **** cases. I've have 2 and they both effect gps, wifi, and cell signal. Do you believe everything you read? How about you throw your money away on one of these awesome cases....it would be more beneficial to your argument than just presenting articles to disprove an actual owner of one.
LOL yeah.... science is totally wrong and fake...
Whatever...you can believe whatever pseudoscience you want.
The magnets don't have anything to do with GPS, it is something else not the magnets. This is simple facts.
The compass is controlled by magnets, that is all.
There is no disputing that.
I've been using a magnetic case I from amazon and I have zero issues with GPS or signal....since you know....magnets don't mess with GPS signal.
If they did...why would people use magnetic car mounts? Yeah....its because there's no issues with gps and magnets.
Well, i think the magnets could mess with compass especially while using GPS. I have a magnetic car mount and when i use maps it will frequently change directions sometimes when I'm driving thinking i turned left or right when i am still going straight. When this happens i have to adjust the mount so it's not sitting in the same spot which fixes the issue. I don't have this problem when using the x-mount on my Harley or when i have the phone in my hand or lap when driving my wife's car.