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[Q] should i get the arc s?

hi
i got an offer from work getting the arc s. dono if i should get it or wait for a better offer that MIGHT come
wanted to consult with y'll if u r happy with this cell..
thank's

How long are you planning to keep it for, if its for 2 years I wouldn't recommend it. Only my opinion
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dinesh690 said:
How long are you planning to keep it for, if its for 2 years I wouldn't recommend it. Only my opinion
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It seems like ill b able to replace it after 2 years at least..

the-light said:
It seems like ill b able to replace it after 2 years at least..
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I'll be keeping mine for probably another year and a half.....but that's because it's suffice for my uses I mean, its not a bad phone if you don't use the hell out of it, play resource-demanding games, and you mod and tweak it
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jman2131 said:
I'll be keeping mine for probably another year and a half.....but that's because it's suffice for my uses I mean, its not a bad phone if you don't use the hell out of it, play resource-demanding games, and you mod and tweak it
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still confused. i mean, i get it for free, but wish they have offered a newer brand..thought of getting htc one x.

the-light said:
still confused. i mean, i get it for free, but wish they have offered a newer brand..thought of getting htc one x.
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meaning its your personal preference ... If you use it mainly for texting and web browsing and the occasional mod (like me) then its perfectly sufficient, but if you do lots of gaming then go for a better phone. Completely up to you, depends on how you're gonna use it.
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I'm quite satisfied with the arc S after using Arconium ICS 5.0 and KTG anzu 1.52 kernel,
I suppose... unless you plan to unlock bootloader, the experience might not be as good, but you can always opt to stay in Gingerbread cause usually new phones are on Gingerbread.

Depends how long you will have the phone for?
One year, Yes I would have it for a year... The new phones coming out within the year look amazing...
Two years, No, Newer games won't support gingerbread forever...
But mostly, its personal preference.

i'm currently using arc s and i hope it lasts long for many years, i don't play games often :laugh:

When are we getting 4.2.x

Missing out on the amazing Dashclock. Its just not accepted samsung is holding us back

locx said:
Missing out on the amazing Dashclock. Its just not accepted samsung is holding us back
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You sound like a child. Enjoy that

Samsung did not promise anyone that u buy their handset and we will give free upgrades every now and then , do you get free upgrade from windows xp to windows 7 to windows 8 for free? NO it takes a lot time and money to develop , Samsung would not just update all the incremental updates google provides ...

We'll probably get it when they release it. Usually within a few hours.

anirudhks said:
Samsung did not promise anyone that u buy their handset and we will give free upgrades every now and then ...
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The sales guy promised me.

DanDroidian said:
The sales guy promised me.
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Maybe you should ask for him then
Edit: Never mind.
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anirudhks said:
Samsung did not promise anyone that u buy their handset and we will give free upgrades every now and then , do you get free upgrade from windows xp to windows 7 to windows 8 for free? NO it takes a lot time and money to develop , Samsung would not just update all the incremental updates google provides ...
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Up to 18 months of releasing a set they are bound to give updates! Do you know that?
Samsung is definitely better than other brands atm, hTC, Sony etc, for providing faster updates, but that's a different thing.
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anirudhks said:
do you get free upgrade from windows xp to windows 7 to windows 8 for free?
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The difference here is that those operating systems are things you actually have to buy, whereas android is free.
But back on topic: OP you barely even given them time to react. It takes a while to develop these things, so they take at least a couple of months to release. I mean, look at the galaxy s2 and its ICS release, that was their flagship phone for a while and even on that it took months for ics to be released on it.
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Up to 18 months of releasing a set they are bound to give updates! Do you know that?
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If when you say that you mean that thing Google was supposedly going to get manufacturers to agree to, that didn't happen.
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D3_ said:
If when you say that you mean that thing Google was supposedly going to get manufacturers to agree to, that didn't happen.
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You surely know nothing about One Alliance protocol followed by all the companies who use Android OS for their cell.
Its a guideline stated by Google that OEM must support a device that they bring out for 18 months since the time of release.
Now this is a very good guideline as it helps us sort good brands from stupid brands..for eg- motorola
Also google cant force any company to release updates. The company is at fault if it doesnt and they are responsible for getting a bad name then.
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You surely know nothing about One Alliance protocol followed by all the companies who use Android OS for their cell.
Its a guideline stated by Google that OEM must support a device that they bring out for 18 months since the time of release.
Now this is a very good guideline as it helps us sort good brands from stupid brands..for eg- motorola
Also google cant force any company to release updates. The company is at fault if it doesnt and they are responsible for getting a bad name then.
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As a user who uses both Apple and Android (Samsung) devices, I find that this is still quite a major flaw for android phone manufacturers. My father still uses an iPhone 3GS and that is still receiving updates from Apple, nearly 4 years since it was released.
This is the first time i've heard of the "One Alliance protocol" so hopefully it's a step in the right direction.
Other than that, I'm sure users of older phones can hopefully flash custom roms of higher OS releases for their phone.

Sorry if i sound like a noob
4.2 was released 3+ months back. Currently my nexus 7 is running on 4.2.1 and this week would be 4.2.2 . Now then why is wrong to ask a question that samsung has not been keen on releasing 4.2 updates instead of stupid increments on 4.1.x which have been a major letdown.
Battery life has gone down from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 while i was expecting the opposite. 4.2 has much more refined codebase for battery and performance.
Now am I being unreasonable for asking the question?

Who would buy the s4 if note 2 had 4.2.2 already
They would update the note 2 two months after they sell 20 million s4
If you want 4.2 for the dash clock ... flash aokp or Cyanogenmod rom
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)

anirudhks said:
Samsung did not promise anyone that u buy their handset and we will give free upgrades every now and then , do you get free upgrade from windows xp to windows 7 to windows 8 for free? NO it takes a lot time and money to develop , Samsung would not just update all the incremental updates google provides ...
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Android OS upgrades are completely unrelated to what you just described about Windows. I purchase my windows and get updates free of charge throughout its product life cycle which stretches to even a decade. Going back to topic its Samsungs obligation to support its devices sold and keep them up to date atleast while the phone is relatively recent. Its what consumers want its why most people buy the latest phones. I bought my note 2 not because of its hardware alone, let alone its cheap build quality, but also because i expect to get the latest updates soon and not when its outdated.
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I have 4.2.2 now what are you talking about?
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I think we will get it soon. Google will release a newer version than 4.2.x and the new update we will first get it after they have released s4
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nidhish91 said:
You surely know nothing about One Alliance protocol followed by all the companies who use Android OS for their cell.
Its a guideline stated by Google that OEM must support a device that they bring out for 18 months since the time of release.
Now this is a very good guideline as it helps us sort good brands from stupid brands..for eg- motorola
Also google cant force any company to release updates. The company is at fault if it doesnt and they are responsible for getting a bad name then.
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If you mean the android update alliance, do a Google search for it and you'll see all links are either from when it was first announced, or how it's basically dead now.
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Samsung Galaxy W I8150 vs Galaxy S Advance I9070

Hi,
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
Is there anyone who also has the I9070 and can give me any suggestion?
I am a bit worried about development: since our beloved I8150 is much more widespread, there's a lot more here than for the I9070, but it's just probably a matter of time... hopefully!
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, thank you very much.

I have a friend who uses I9010. Although it is good from spec, and bigger screen.. But well, XDA has only few devs. Seems it is a bit minus points since many of 'em were stock-modded.
€200 off-contract? Cheap..
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Kreaz said:
I have a friend who uses I9010. Although it is good from spec, and bigger screen.. But well, XDA has only few devs. Seems it is a bit minus points since many of 'em were stock-modded.
€200 off-contract? Cheap..
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Thanks for your answer.
I don't understand what you mean by "seems it is a bit minus points since many of them were stock-modded", may you please clarify that?
Re the price: 200€ off-contract, yes.
I've been watching this phone since last year and the best offers I found were 250€ at the end of November 2012, 230€ now in most of the shops. A local supermarket is going to sell it for 200€ in the next days.
So the price doesn't go down fast, but slowly it does!

[.::MDT::.] said:
Thanks for your answer.
I don't understand what you mean by "seems it is a bit minus points since many of them were stock-modded", may you please clarify that?
Re the price: 200€ off-contract, yes.
I've been watching this phone since last year and the best offers I found were 250€ at the end of November 2012, 230€ now in most of the shops. A local supermarket is going to sell it for 200€ in the next days.
So the price doesn't go down fast, but slowly it does!
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Many of those ROMs were not pure AOSP/CM-based and just stock, with some mods/changes, so maybe you may expect 'bloatwares', including that useless apps etc. Well there is actually CM10.1 but it is not that reliable since mostly it is for hi-level devs (as you can see there are many bugs there including the Phone.apk (that is for the calls) so it is impossible to make calls), the BT, the Wi-Fi if I'm not mistaken. But well if you can stand that it's yours.
Also, I think the newest S4 will fit. Well its announcement is still on March 14th (15th GMT+7, if it is announced at evening in NY). And I don't think if the price would be another 200 Euros off-contract.
Again, it is your privilege to buy a new phone and leave the other. So, choose it wisely.

Maybe you can post this question to the S Advance forum so that the user of that phone can share their experience with you

Kreaz said:
Many of those ROMs were not pure AOSP/CM-based and just stock, with some mods/changes, so maybe you may expect 'bloatwares', including that useless apps etc. Well there is actually CM10.1 but it is not that reliable since mostly it is for hi-level devs (as you can see there are many bugs there including the Phone.apk (that is for the calls) so it is impossible to make calls), the BT, the Wi-Fi if I'm not mistaken. But well if you can stand that it's yours.
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I see, thanks for the info.
Well, surely CM10.0 is not usable at this development stage... but it will probably in the future, hopefully soon!
From what you write, I got the impression that Galaxy S Advance does not (and will not?) have so much development/ROMs/etc. as for our beloved Wonder...
Kreaz said:
Also, I think the newest S4 will fit. Well its announcement is still on March 14th (15th GMT+7, if it is announced at evening in NY). And I don't think if the price would be another 200 Euros off-contract.
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Yep, I'm not interested in high-end devices, my budget being around 200€.
That's why Galaxy W is good for me, it does what I need for a reasonable price, imho.
Kreaz said:
Again, it is your privilege to buy a new phone and leave the other. So, choose it wisely.
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That's clear.
I won't leave my Wonder completely though, since it will stay in my family.
AzizWahid said:
Maybe you can post this question to the S Advance forum so that the user of that phone can share their experience with you
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Thanks for your suggestion, I did that already, just trying to get as much feedback as possible from both Galaxy W and S users.

[.::MDT::.] said:
Hi,
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
Is there anyone who also has the I9070 and can give me any suggestion?
I am a bit worried about development: since our beloved I8150 is much more widespread, there's a lot more here than for the I9070, but it's just probably a matter of time... hopefully!
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, thank you very much.
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from spec S advanced seems to be having advantage based on its processor,rom and ram..but the problem still same with w,cant upgrade to official android 4.0 and above by samsung.

kentgoh88 said:
from spec S advanced seems to be having advantage based on its processor,rom and ram..but the problem still same with w,cant upgrade to official android 4.0 and above by samsung.
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Well, that's not much of a problem, we'll hopefully have some CyanogenMods sooner or later...

kentgoh88 said:
from spec S advanced seems to be having advantage based on its processor,rom and ram..but the problem still same with w,cant upgrade to official android 4.0 and above by samsung.
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Well, my friend has a I9010. In fact, I9010 *did not* receive ICS. But it did receive official JB (4.1) update.
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Kreaz said:
Well, my friend has a I9010. In fact, I9010 *did not* receive ICS. But it did receive official JB (4.1) update.
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Ya SSA have jellybean, and we have too. But we have Sir Arco
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We have many devs working on 4.2 now with various but similiar devices, lets say arco, camcory teamed up with xistance smartguy and tim1928 as team insomnia and there is dooms, and I never regret for having this phone
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Go buy SGS Advance
-It has official JB with 99% stable
-Great Custom Kernel and Custom Rom
And you can try it by yourself if you have buy this phone
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R: Samsung Galaxy W I8150 vs Galaxy S Advance I9070
Anyway a bugged cm is long way better than a stock Samsung rom. When you install a cm rom is like buying a new phone. Maybe w with cm is better than s stock...
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GaYoung28 said:
Go buy SGS Advance
-It has official JB with 99% stable
-Great Custom Kernel and Custom Rom
And you can try it by yourself if you have buy this phone
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You only say this only because you have that phone. You must be OBJECTIVE and not SUBJECTIVE.
Do you have tried this phone? No, how you can say that?

miki2o said:
You only say this only because you have that phone. You must be OBJECTIVE and not SUBJECTIVE.
Do you have tried this phone? No, how you can say that?
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Yes I have.. I have both of them
And I'm OBJECTIVE and NOT SUBJECTIVE
My brother have Galaxy W too
Not offensive bro..
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actually I would recommend you to buy S advance.
with the JB update, the phone is really smooth even without any custom rom or tweak.
But the only big problem is there is not much special tweaks and custom rom available for S advance. So when you are bored of stock S advance, there's nothing you can do unlike our lovely W with so many awesome devs.
Both phones have their own pros and cons. It's up to you.

Samsung Galaxy W Vs Samsung Galaxy S Advance = DRAW :highfive:

I do not know anything about s advance but i'm so in love at first sight with my wonder. Before bought wonder i do some search and comparing but i dont know that our lovely wonder have so many cusroms , mods , tweaks and kernel developed by many brilliant devs. And i never feel regret to bought wonder . This phone is just awesome , and completely helpful
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pepziman said:
I do not know anything about s advance but i'm so in love at first sight with my wonder. Before bought wonder i do some search and comparing but i dont know that our lovely wonder have so many cusroms , mods , tweaks and kernel developed by many brilliant devs. And i never feel regret to bought wonder . This phone is just awesome , and completely helpful
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Surely Wonder has a lot more mods, roms, etc. available.
However, I also had a chance to try the S Advance and I must say it's much more comfortable just for the slightly bigger screen. The keyboard is easier, and the GPS works perfectly in Advance whereas in my Wonder takes ages to get the fix or loses it every minute....
All in all, if I had to buy a new phone, between the 2 I'd go for the Advance I think.

I choose wonder because wonder is my device
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Rom: CyanogenMod 9 Final Release (EOL)
Kernel: HurtSky' Kernel REV1.0
Baseband: XXLM8
Recovery: ClockWorkMod 5.5.0.4
Tweak: Walkman Xperia Z | AC!D Audio Engine

[Q]Worth unlocking bootload?

I am bored of MIUI 4 and current JB release for LB and was thinking whether it is really worth it. Do you get significant boost, bug free rom? As it voids the warrenty and sony gets a record of your phone or does relocking fixes it? Also what kind of warrenty is void? hardware/software/body?

yea letama's 4.3 is lovely
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Ben36 said:
yea letama's 4.3 is lovely
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it is full of a number of bugs, isn't it.

shad0wboss said:
I am bored of MIUI 4 and current JB release for LB and was thinking whether it is really worth it. Do you get significant boost, bug free rom? As it voids the warrenty and sony gets a record of your phone or does relocking fixes it? Also what kind of warrenty is void? hardware/software/body?
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Well,yes its worth it.You have a wide choice & customization available even on stock rom.Only compromise is on bravia engine that too on pics only
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RISHI RAJ said:
Well,yes its worth it.You have a wide choice & customization available even on stock rom.Only compromise is on bravia engine that too on pics only
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So is there a quality compromise when browsing, gaming or is it only in the photo gallery ?

shad0wboss said:
it is full of a number of bugs, isn't it.
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nope. next to none
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Now 4.3 is already old. Discussion about 4.4

As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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coolrevi said:
As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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4.4? Hardly likely. There'll be a 4.3, I'm sure, but I don't believe there's going to be a 4.4. The Z1 and, possibly, the Z Ultra, being the latest flagships, I feel, would be the only candidates for it.

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4.4? Hardly likely. There'll be a 4.3, I'm sure, but I don't believe there's going to be a 4.4. The Z1 and, possibly, the Z Ultra, being the latest flagships, I feel, would be the only candidates for it.
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From 4.2 to 4.3 officially there is no difference except for smoothness, and richer use gpu. As far as 4.4, wise battery usage, full screen mode in apps, richer gpu, better integration of hangout, well memory management. I don think Sony would give up on their phones in just 8 months.
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Sony said xperia z1,z ultra and z will get 4.4. If xperia z can have it , zl should get it.
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ijaz90 said:
Sony said xperia z1,z ultra and z will get 4.4. If xperia z can have it , zl should get it.
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All z series will get it, if that's the case.. We have noticed many times that zl gets updates before z
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coolrevi said:
As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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Hi.
This may help people understand why the updates take so long:
www.developer.sonymobile.com/2013/0...-process-and-its-improvements-for-android-4-3
Btw, does the ZL still gets warm easily, like from 23°C to 44° C (73 F / 111 F), while playing games (NFS MW, or other "heavy tasks") on 4.2.2? (Mine is running 4.1.2)
It's quite annoying :/ I've heard the Media Server battery leak has been corrected, at least. Heard nothing about the warming problem.
I'm quite sure 4.4 will be available for the Z series. Isn't it supposed to be optimized to support even 512MB RAM devices?
- L

Sw33t_Lov3r said:
Hi.
This may help people understand why the updates take so long:
www.developer.sonymobile.com/2013/0...-process-and-its-improvements-for-android-4-3
Btw, does the ZL still gets warm easily, like from 23°C to 44° C (73 F / 111 F), while playing games (NFS MW, or other "heavy tasks") on 4.2.2? (Mine is running 4.1.2)
It's quite annoying :/ I've heard the Media Server battery leak has been corrected, at least. Heard nothing about the warming problem.
I'm quite sure 4.4 will be available for the Z series. Isn't it supposed to be optimized to support even 512MB RAM devices?
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Yea I quite aware of the process dude. Yea phone really gets hot.. As we can see recently Xperia l treated with 4.2.2 with some advanced features I'm quite sure that zl will get update. The topic is about how far Sony can do it. Past experience update will be received but with bugs. We can see that with Xperia s and t
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coolrevi said:
Yea I quite aware of the process dude. Yea phone really gets hot.. As we can see recently Xperia l treated with 4.2.2 with some advanced features I'm quite sure that zl will get update. The topic is about how far Sony can do it. Past experience update will be received but with bugs. We can see that with Xperia s and t
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Thanks for your reply. Can you specify if your ZL really getting hot is on 4.2.2? Have you tried any 4.3 based ROM?
Is there any? I'm about to update from 4.1.2 and I'm wondering if this warming issue is still there :/
Seems like the waiting is too long for some. Ha.
4.4 will be here for the ZL as Sony wants to get its goal to be the third biggest smartphone maker, if it wants it,
it needs to support its devices.
But, can we just have a bug-free Jelly Bean mean while? Dang. Any custom 4.2.2 ROM?
The new features of Kit Kat are really appealing, several of them, actually n.n
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
- L.

Sw33t_Lov3r said:
Thanks for your reply. Can you specify if your ZL really getting hot is on 4.2.2? Have you tried any 4.3 based ROM?
Is there any? I'm about to update from 4.1.2 and I'm wondering if this warming issue is still there :/
Seems like the waiting is too long for some. Ha.
4.4 will be here for the ZL as Sony wants to get its goal to be the third biggest smartphone maker, if it wants it,
it needs to support its devices.
But, can we just have a bug-free Jelly Bean mean while? Dang. Any custom 4.2.2 ROM?
The new features of Kit Kat are really appealing, several of them, actually n.n
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
- L.
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4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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coolrevi said:
4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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Thanks! I'll update to 4.2.2 in some hours... It's 4:15 AM here in Peru n.n How bad the heating issue is still present.
I may try a 4.3 ROM so I can see if it's fixed :/ It's possible to relock the bootloader. Don't want to try?
Yeah, some more days and well have news about 4.3 and 4.4. I hope Sony gives us dates for the oficial 4.3 updates and
positive news for us about 4.4. I've never been the updates fan, my Xperia Pro never got to ICS... It's running so nicely with GB til now.
But 4.4 does have several interesting improvements. Maybe I can update it to 4.4!
Does anyone know what does it take for a device to be suitable for 4.4 update?
As there has been words about 4.4 for older devices.
Maybe it's too son to ask n.n
- L.

coolrevi said:
4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.

DoubleYouPee said:
What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.
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With all due respect I didn't have that problem in 244 that's the reason why I mentioned about it.
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DoubleYouPee said:
What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.
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It's an issue because not ALL (not even many) other smartphones like this one (full HD, no active cooling) have this heating problem.
Does the Galaxy S4 heats like this? Does the Xperia Z1, maybe?
I know the processor and GPU are working and are making use of energy thus some heat is normal,
but that the device goes from iddle 23° C to 37 and 44° C after not 20 minutes of playing is definitely an issue.
It even gets warm when browsing (Dolphin). This is annoying. Other than that, the device is excelent.
My Razr i only rarely used to get this hot! Actually, I can remember only 2 times when it got to 44° C
and I think it was because of a bug caused by Fuit Ninja, cause in 5 months of playing and using it dialy it never got hot
like the ZL on 4.1.2 and the latest 2.67 build. (As said coolrevi).
I used to use the Razr i proportionally the same as I use the ZL. So, no, it definitely something to look into. I hope official 4.3
and later 4.4 have this problem solved. Or, I don't know, maybe I have a defective unit!
coolrevi said:
With all due respect I didn't have that problem in 244 that's the reason why I mentioned about it.
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Hey! So the build right before 244 didn't have this heating issue?
I think I can flash that one? Do you remeber which number was?
Thanks!
- L.

Sw33t_Lov3r said:
It's an issue because not ALL (not even many) other smartphones like this one (full HD, no active cooling) have this heating problem.
Hey! So the build right before 244 didn't have this heating issue?
I think I can flash that one? Do you remeber which number was?
Thanks!
- L.
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I would just suggest you to flash the latest one. .67 coz many people have told that it has solved many bugs including heating issue (except me)

coolrevi said:
I would just suggest you to flash the latest one. .67 coz many people have told that it has solved many bugs including heating issue (except me)
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Thanks for your reply!
Although I'm more a fan of stock/official ROMs, I'm about to flash this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228436
[ROM][ZL][JB 4.2.2][PA3.60][AOKP-MR1][CM10.1]P.A.C True All in 1 ROM
You must know it. It combines cm10.1, AOKP and AOSPA.
I'm going to try it as I read it's stable and good enough!
Originally Posted by murcielargo on 6th August 2013
Hello guys .. just wanted to ask if this rom is stable and can be used in a daily basis without any problems and does
the camera button and ir remote control work ?... and also does this rom support apps to sd ?.. i really like pacman rom
used to have it on my old hd2 so i wanted to flash it on my xperia zl... since the stock rom dosnt let me transfer
apps to sd and my internal memory is full and my phone is kinda unresponsive and that is the main reason i want to flash
a custom rom and my first choice is pacman.. so if any one could answer these questiosn it would be a real big help... thanx in advance
Reply: Been using this as my daily driver since the day I bought my phone. Works exactly as you would expect.
IR doesn't work on any custom rom so far and you'd have to use something like titanium backup to move apps to SD.
The camera button works just fine. All in all flash with confidence.
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It looks interesting too. Had you seen that ROM?
After that if I don't like it I'm going to get the latest official ROM n.n
Thanks for your help! I hope it doesn't turn out we have defective units! Ha
4.4 version will be interesting too, as I'm quite sure Sony will release it for us ZL users.
- L.

Ofcourse Sony will release it for all Z series.
And 1 more think if.sony could possibly integrate is ability to move the app to SD.??
Because sammy s3 got it in 4.3
Atleast sony could in 4.4...??
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I just saw a 4.4 aosp port for the xperia z, is there a chance we can have it, can anybody port it for the zl.
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Sony has now announced what devices will ger 4.4 kitkat
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
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original location: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/

unmaskedfalesh said:
Ofcourse Sony will release it for all Z series.
And 1 more think if.sony could possibly integrate is ability to move the app to SD.??
Because sammy s3 got it in 4.3
Atleast sony could in 4.4...??
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Have you tried DIRECTORY BIND in your ZL?
I don't have an SD card in the moment so I can't test, anyone
knows if Directory Bind works for the ZL in 4.1 or 4.2? Mine is running stock 4.2.
Let's go to the Sony Twitter acc and news room to ask for this feature in 4.3 and 4.4!
- L
Pd: Looks like battery is draining in no more than 10 hours of moderate to constant
usage, no gaming, all staminas on and screen brightness at 15%.
Is this normal for 4.2 in the ZL or should I perform a factory reset
cause I didn't do it when I flashed stock 4.2 on my carrier's 4.1... Sorry for the of topic. I'm on the go!