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Will Verizon know?

If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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watt9493 said:
If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.

RMarkwald said:
They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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Fvck.
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Rooting just voids your warranty, so if they knew that when you try to get a warranty replacement, they may charge you full price. That's assuming they even check it. So if you're rooted and not making a warranty claim, the phone is yours, VZW will still take your money happily.
Whenever I've been in VZW stores, the reps even have theirs rooted. So I wouldn't worry about it too much bro!

Just act like nothing is wrong and keep it rooted. Seriously

Im going to. Eff them
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watt9493 said:
Im going to. Eff them
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That's the spirit

Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...

RMarkwald said:
They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.

OTA, you mean the new gingerbread we never received we are finally getting?
On the HTC incredbile right?
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The real question is why would Verizon care if you took the update or not?

synisterwolf said:
not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.
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I don't have a link so I'm not exactly sure, but I saw something about how some VZW tech support could see the build # (and maybe some other things you'd see in the "about phone" menu) of the device you were talking to them on. So from there, it could be assumed you were rooted if not running a stock rom.
Again, assuming they could extrapolate that information in that specific circumstance, I don't know why they would care (aside from software-related warranty issues). Most reps I've talked to in a VZ store that had some measure of expertise in their field has a rooted phone.

I believe you have nothing to be concerned about with working for them and having a rooted phone I know a few people who work for Big Red, but they don't have their phone rooted because they just don't care for it (simple minded lol).
They will entice you to upgrade to the latest greatest new phone with your employee discount lol. But assuming you're going to stick with what you have, just don't go volunteering information unless they ask since it's no of their business.
But do be prepared to sign a buttload of nondisclosure papers that you won't share any inside information (but should hehehe).

wildstang83 said:
Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...
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they do, one of them pulled me out of the main floor once when i asked him about the gb update, then recommended this site
but, as far as the OTA gingerbread. don't take it, the risks outweigh the benefits.
risks
. No root for a while (months, or a year)
. Bloatware, that you can't take off, see risk #1
. no roms for a while either
to be honest, ive been running GB for a month now via gingersense, and i like it, yeah the 720p is choppy, yeah, i have other stuff.
but, i'm mainly concerned about the new radio and new kernal
so, take others advice, and just wait.

Will do. And anything i hear, ill post in general. The store im going to work at is pretty chill. I rooted and s-offed my first inc, broke mms (somehow) and they exchanged itbeven looking at the bootloader.
Your phone has now contracted phone AIDS. Shoulda used protection while rooting. LD

[Q] This may be tough to answer

I am working my master plan to getting a new phone lol...
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of a G2/VISION's ABOUT PHONE stats before its been rooted or a roms been put on it? I dont wanna call TMOBILE and they ask me certain things like the software version and android version I'm running and I give them the information based off what rom I have.
Unless someone knows what those would be off the top of their heads.

Most phones have different factory shipped software, so what in particular are you looking for?

The reason its tough to answer is because you didn't state any info of value. Are you trying to exchange/return? Are you wanting to buy a new one?? I mean that kind of important don't you think?
If its a warranty exchange they won't ask you for any software numbers only ask about damages.
If buying a new one who cares anyways.
If those are wrong please fix your question.
Thanks
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So... you're trying to scam the T-mobile CS support by giving them false information about a non-rooted phone rather than your rooted phone.
If you're going to get a warranty return and replacement the least you can do is unroot your phone (you'll have to when you return it...(or ffs at least put a stock pre-rooted ROM back on it)) when you call in so if you're not confident in your ability to BS them you can have the real numbers ready....

just downgrade and unroot.....

xudsa II USERT said:
Most phones have different factory shipped software, so what in particular are you looking for?
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Just whatever info in the ABOUT PHONE STATS for a phone that hasn't been rooted and modded. Software version and stuff like that...
I have a G2 but I have had an issue and had several replaced because it'll just randomly shut off sometimes. And since I've replaced it quite a few times already I was ready to just ask them to replace my phone with something else.
Only thing is I just want to have that information so as they ask me I can be like this is what I have.

d3athb4dishonor said:
Just whatever info in the ABOUT PHONE STATS for a phone that hasn't been rooted and modded. Software version and stuff like that...
I have a G2 but I have had an issue and had several replaced because it'll just randomly shut off sometimes. And since I've replaced it quite a few times already I was ready to just ask them to replace my phone with something else.
Only thing is I just want to have that information so as they ask me I can be like this is what I have.
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just load a stock pre-rooted ROM on your phone. Could've had it done by now...

martonikaj said:
just load a stock pre-rooted ROM on your phone. Could've had it done by now...
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I think his phone has problems, cause he mentioned about it rebooting, so I guess he cant downgrade?
d3athb4dishonor said:
Just whatever info...what I have.
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I have some info I logged down before rooting, but its from a stock Desire Z, not a T-Mobile version, will that do?
BTW: Another guy had similar reboot problems too here

[Q] Loss of Signal, LoS, still around?

Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.

TPizzle said:
Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.
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LoS has been gone for awhile
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The LoS issue has been a non-issue since modem EK02, from what I hear.
Personally, I've never encountered it, except on the subway.
Root away! Frankly, this is a hard-to-brick phone, as long as you take a bit of time to research whats involved. And don't flash ROMs intended for the "international version". (aka I9100.)
The link to the thread in my sig is considered the "easiest way", but the old hacks'll tell ya to learn to use ODIN.
Don't know how familiar you are with Samsung devices, but I would seriously spend some time reading about ROM versions, kernal versions, modem versions before attempting ANYTHING. seriously. And look up QBKing77 on youtube, his vids will set you on the right path for rooting and flashing this phone.

Thank you guys. Yes I have lots of experience with Samsung. I'm using the Nexus right now and I've had the captivate for a good part of last year. Thanks for the response and advice. I will root probably within the hour I get the phone now.
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Should I root now or wait?

I'm always a little nervous about rooting.
My reasons for rooting are the following:
-Ti backup
-Google Wallet
-Tether wifi
-Eventually install custom roms and mods
-I'm sure there are other reasons I can't think of...
Should I root now or wait?

aulwes said:
I'm always a little nervous about rooting.
My reasons for rooting are the following:
-Ti backup
-Google Wallet
-Tether wifi
-Eventually install custom roms and mods
-I'm sure there are other reasons I can't think of...
Should I root now or wait?
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I wait for return period to end before root just in case hardware issues arise.

rooting this phone was easy as pie..but maybe you might want to wait until roms start being made.. im currently waiting on what i thikn will be the first one which is probably going to be a stock rom with all the bloat removed.

sling said:
I wait for return period to end before root just in case hardware issues arise.
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Good point. I asked the clerk about Sprint getting the rumored Nexus 4 and she mentioned the 15 day return period if I decided that I wanted something else.

aulwes said:
Good point. I asked the clerk about Sprint getting the rumored Nexus 4 and she mentioned the 15 day return period if I decided that I wanted something else.
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I don't think nex4 will drop in next 15 days. I'm seriously thinking about swapping mine for 32gb S3 due to GN2 wake up lag.
I dealt with issue on ET4G cant deal with it again.
I'm going to keep close eye on S3 forums mentoring how JB updates coming along f,sure

Will rooting my phone make me ineligible for an upgrade?

I've had my phone for roughly 15 months. It has been my first foray into Android and I absolutely it. What I don't like is TouchWiz. It makes the phone a hassle to use because of how slow it runs. I've heard rooting makes a phone faster but I've always been hesitant to root it because of how it voids your warranty. However, since I'm eligible for an upgrade come February so I figure I should root my phone to experience rooting. I don't want to do it if it prevents me from getting a new phone.
Can anyone help me out here?

Hero746 said:
I've had my phone for roughly 15 months. It has been my first foray into Android and I absolutely it. What I don't like is TouchWiz. It makes the phone a hassle to use because of how slow it runs. I've heard rooting makes a phone faster but I've always been hesitant to root it because of how it voids your warranty. However, since I'm eligible for an upgrade come February so I figure I should root my phone to experience rooting. I don't want to do it if it prevents me from getting a new phone.
Can anyone help me out here?
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you can always unroot your phone and im pretty sure that if you are eligable for an upgrade that they arent going to search your phone, more than likely is they send straight to factory and just flash it and send your phone to people who broke theirs lol
just saying from what i heard of, but you can root your phone and unroot if you want to experience how it is to have a rooted device, my phones een rooted for about year and a little more than half, soft bricked so many times but thats the fun part
flashing gets pretty addicting lol, im like a flashaholic
but trust me you'll enjoy it

Don't phone carriers have a way of knowing if you've rooted your phone in the past? The last thing I want to happen is to be told that I have to pay full price for a new phone after having it for like a week.

Straight from t-mobile website:
"As long as the phone you're trading in powers on, is not cracked, and has no water damage, you only have to pay a down payment for the next phone when you’re ready to upgrade."
At the same time it also mentions this:
"Once the used phone is received at the Trade-in Center, it will be tested and inspected. All personal data and corporate IT policies will be removed."
I would recommend reverting to stock first.

Thank you very much.
With this info in mind, I plan on rooting my device using Cyanogenmod. Can anyone confirm if triangle away works with the T-Mobile SII? How would I return to stock?

I've upgraded a few phones that were rooted and had different Roms I just flashed to stock and didn't even unroot they didn't check but might wanna just in case lol plus custom recovery is kinda a give away lol
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I've heard that if they find it rooted, even if it is a big IF, they are able to void the warranty. Don't think anything it matters for an upgrade though. Either way, they probably won't check it, and even if they do, I don't think they will do anything about it. You can always go back to stock to be safe.
I heard for the Note 3 they are adding a detection hardware that cannot be undone once rooted, even if you go back to stock. These kinds of things are made for people who like to find ways around them though, and these people usually win.

So, does TriangleAway work with the Samsung Galaxy S2? (I have the SGHT989D unlocked and rooted)?