[Q] Loss of Signal, LoS, still around? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.

TPizzle said:
Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.
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LoS has been gone for awhile
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The LoS issue has been a non-issue since modem EK02, from what I hear.
Personally, I've never encountered it, except on the subway.
Root away! Frankly, this is a hard-to-brick phone, as long as you take a bit of time to research whats involved. And don't flash ROMs intended for the "international version". (aka I9100.)
The link to the thread in my sig is considered the "easiest way", but the old hacks'll tell ya to learn to use ODIN.
Don't know how familiar you are with Samsung devices, but I would seriously spend some time reading about ROM versions, kernal versions, modem versions before attempting ANYTHING. seriously. And look up QBKing77 on youtube, his vids will set you on the right path for rooting and flashing this phone.

Thank you guys. Yes I have lots of experience with Samsung. I'm using the Nexus right now and I've had the captivate for a good part of last year. Thanks for the response and advice. I will root probably within the hour I get the phone now.
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[Q] How to ROOT from OTO Gingerbread S-ON and back to CM7???

1) I rooted my EVO 4G using the following method: "How to Root the HTC EVO 4G with Froyo 2.2 [Video Walkthrough]"
2) I flashed many ROMs, but finally settled on CM7 (7.0.3.1 currently).
3) got excited that the official GB ota was available, so UNROOTED (back to S-ON)using "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS"
4)Finally, i installed the OTA today.
MY PROBLEM:
I cant get back to Root & CM!!! there is not much help for this, ive been googling but cant find a method that will root my evo from S-ON/gingerbread (2.3.3)...or even back to Froyo...so that i can root and get back on CM.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS????
i just wanted to play around and see what the officail GB was like (knowing that i would LOSE root, not knowing that i wouldnt be able to GET BACK to root), and now im stuck in STOCK im desperate for all me settings, apps, and WAY OF LIFE with CM.
HELP!!!
bobbilinn said:
1) I rooted my EVO 4G using the following method: "How to Root the HTC EVO 4G with Froyo 2.2 [Video Walkthrough]"
2) I flashed many ROMs, but finally settled on CM7 (7.0.3.1 currently).
3) got excited that the official GB ota was available, so UNROOTED (back to S-ON)using "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS"
4)Finally, i installed the OTA today.
MY PROBLEM:
I cant get back to Root & CM!!! there is not much help for this, ive been googling but cant find a method that will root my evo from S-ON/gingerbread (2.3.3)...or even back to Froyo...so that i can root and get back on CM.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS????
i just wanted to play around and see what the officail GB was like (knowing that i would LOSE root, not knowing that i wouldnt be able to GET BACK to root), and now im stuck in STOCK im desperate for all me settings, apps, and WAY OF LIFE with CM.
HELP!!!
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You cant root. You ****ed up. The new bootloader is locked so root has to be updated to work with it. Everyone said DONT UPDATE.
Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!
There are a couple of threads on the topic. Basically, with S-On, you are out of luck, and need to wait for a new rooting method. For future reference, no need to unroot to get the OTA upgrade. Either wait the day (3 hours in this case) for a rooted version, or just flash the OTA version. So long as you keep S-Off, you are OK for flashing ROMs and stuff.
Probably gonna be awhile because HTC waited until the gingerbread root methods were patched before releasing the update. Honestly, I'm impressed that they did that. It means they are paying attention to security holes and actually fixing them.
Your best option was to wait it out because rooted versions of the ota were being created. I find that better because you can just flash it to check it out and restore back when your done.
Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!
I just thought you would have to re-root. Sucks...
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bobbilinn said:
1) I rooted my EVO 4G using the following method: "How to Root the HTC EVO 4G with Froyo 2.2 [Video Walkthrough]"
2) I flashed many ROMs, but finally settled on CM7 (7.0.3.1 currently).
3) got excited that the official GB ota was available, so UNROOTED (back to S-ON)using "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS"
4)Finally, i installed the OTA today.
MY PROBLEM:
I cant get back to Root & CM!!! there is not much help for this, ive been googling but cant find a method that will root my evo from S-ON/gingerbread (2.3.3)...or even back to Froyo...so that i can root and get back on CM.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS????
i just wanted to play around and see what the officail GB was like (knowing that i would LOSE root, not knowing that i wouldnt be able to GET BACK to root), and now im stuck in STOCK im desperate for all me settings, apps, and WAY OF LIFE with CM.
HELP!!!
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Good GOD, there's only been 1000 posts the last 3 days saying that if you unroot to get the OTA, you cannot reroot.
THIS is my #1 pet peeve... ****ING READ, PEOPLE, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING TO YOUR PHONE!!
If I make you sound like a moron, you are....
If you dont have anything nice to say.....!!!!!!!!!
HipKat said:
Good GOD, there's only been 1000 posts the last 3 days saying that if you unroot to get the OTA, you cannot reroot.
THIS is my #1 pet peeve... ****ING READ, PEOPLE, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING TO YOUR PHONE!!
If I make you sound like a moron, you are....
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im not a moron, and i was reading forums all day before during and after i did this, and never came across a single post that said you cant GO BACK AND RE-ROOT...i just assumed they were giving the obvious warning that your not gonna have root anymore so you'd have to redo it....i simply overlooked it in the middle of homework and laundry and taking care of my children. SO NO - I AM NOT A MORON, JUST A MULTI-TASKER WHO LIKES TO PLAY WITH MY PHONE!!!
you dont have to be so mean, just DONT REPLY IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY! BTW, its not YOUR phone i jacked up, its mine...so no need to get all heated about it anyway! (and its not even jacked up, just cant root for the moment)
I occasionally read these forums just because it is interesting...BUT I DONT SPEND MY WHOLE LIFE ON THEM...so i guess you have one up on me....
ps....im going to school for computer networking and i am NOT going to be a cranky and cocky techs....THAT IS MY PET PEEVE - PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ONE TOPIC and get off on belittling others who have expertise in OTHER areas.
wow....so rude. i thought these things were to be friendly and give advise, not try to scare away anyone thats not an expert....REAL WELCOMING!!!!
SORRY FOR VENTING - but you made an unnecessarily snide comment.
next time keep the S-off buddy and you can get back a custom recovery and all that jazz. sorry that you are stuck for now, but i'm pretty sure with all the awesome devs around that you'll be able to root gingerbread pretty soon
No, it's not snide.... Just since replying to your post, I've read 5 more form people doing the same thing just tonight, and if I REALLY want to sit here and copy and paste all night, I can point out a friggin' boatload of posts from people who unrooted.
Here's a good one you might have noticed right in this section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111263
Oh look, here's another one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109208
Here's one that i9n the title SAYS it removes root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110255
Let's see what we can find in the obscure Q&A section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111890
Those are just individual threads from today..
You want me to look at yesterday?? Friday??
How about the piles of individual posts???????
bobbilinn said:
1) I rooted my EVO 4G using the following method: "How to Root the HTC EVO 4G with Froyo 2.2 [Video Walkthrough]"
2) I flashed many ROMs, but finally settled on CM7 (7.0.3.1 currently).
3) got excited that the official GB ota was available, so UNROOTED (back to S-ON)using "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS"
4)Finally, i installed the OTA today.
MY PROBLEM:
I cant get back to Root & CM!!! there is not much help for this, ive been googling but cant find a method that will root my evo from S-ON/gingerbread (2.3.3)...or even back to Froyo...so that i can root and get back on CM.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS????
i just wanted to play around and see what the officail GB was like (knowing that i would LOSE root, not knowing that i wouldnt be able to GET BACK to root), and now im stuck in STOCK im desperate for all me settings, apps, and WAY OF LIFE with CM.
HELP!!!
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Why do you geniuses keep taking ota's when you are already rooted?????? Seriously every update it is the same thing. Just flash the rooted version of the update. All you had to do was wait a couple of hours for it to be uploaded to xda. Maybe its for he best if the people who made this mistake yet again never be able to root.
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bobbilinn said:
im not a moron, and i was reading forums all day before during and after i did this, and never came across a single post that said you cant GO BACK AND RE-ROOT...i just assumed they were giving the obvious warning that your not gonna have root anymore so you'd have to redo it....i simply overlooked it in the middle of homework and laundry and taking care of my children. SO NO - I AM NOT A MORON, JUST A MULTI-TASKER WHO LIKES TO PLAY WITH MY PHONE!!!
you dont have to be so mean, just DONT REPLY IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY! BTW, its not YOUR phone i jacked up, its mine...so no need to get all heated about it anyway! (and its not even jacked up, just cant root for the moment)
I occasionally read these forums just because it is interesting...BUT I DONT SPEND MY WHOLE LIFE ON THEM...so i guess you have one up on me....
ps....im going to school for computer networking and i am NOT going to be a cranky and cocky techs....THAT IS MY PET PEEVE - PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ONE TOPIC and get off on belittling others who have expertise in OTHER areas.
wow....so rude. i thought these things were to be friendly and give advise, not try to scare away anyone thats not an expert....REAL WELCOMING!!!!
SORRY FOR VENTING - but you made an unnecessarily snide comment.
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So you assumed and made an ass out of you and me(well just yourself).
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Jeez guys just let it go... The guy made a mistake im sure everyone hers f__ked up before.. Though I admit not as bad as this.. So at least point him in the right way... As far as I know gingerbread itself is unrootable... So you may be stuck for a while.. Check to make sure s is actually off
On a side note this is important to all of us.. What about all the 2nd gen phonea that are coming with s on and stock 2.3" .. Htc may say that they arent encrypting bootloadrra, but if we cant root that means sh_t.... Again this is beyond me, but at least lets focus on what needs to be done... Again this is gonna mess up everyone with a brand new evo or the 3d....
keejung said:
On a side note this is important to all of us.. What about all the 2nd gen phonea that are coming with s on and stock 2.3" .. Htc may say that they arent encrypting bootloadrra, but if we cant root that means sh_t.... Again this is beyond me, but at least lets focus on what needs to be done... Again this is gonna mess up everyone with a brand new evo or the 3d....
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All phones are shipped with s-on, right? I'm confident a root method will come up.
keejung said:
Jeez guys just let it go... The guy made a mistake im sure everyone hers f__ked up before.. Though I admit not as bad as this.. So at least point him in the right way... As far as I know gingerbread itself is unrootable... So you may be stuck for a while.. Check to make sure s is actually off
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Thanks....yes I made a mistake but I've only had my EVO, or any Android for that matter, for a couple of months so I think I've been doing pretty well until now with no help...just researching myself online and in the forums.
This was the first ota that came out since I rooted...now i have learned what not to do...and didn't know that the rooted versions pop up so quickly...hopefully they will release a new ota with the bootloader unlocked...and soon
Ps....I'm a girl. (Bobbi Linn)
Oh...noticed amazing battery life so far being stuck in stock...which is a plus!
Sent from my super sexy EVO
keejung said:
Jeez guys just let it go... The guy made a mistake im sure everyone hers f__ked up before.. Though I admit not as bad as this.. So at least point him in the right way... As far as I know gingerbread itself is unrootable... So you may be stuck for a while.. Check to make sure s is actually off
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Yes I'm s-on...unfortunately I went through a bunch of hassle to get back to s-on...which is exactly my problem.
Sent from my super sexy EVO from my super sexy EVO
I have a replacement Evo coming this week ( supposedly last week but apparently it's out of stock nationwide). We'll see what firmware it ships with.
HipKat, you are do unnecessary gay.
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bdawg31 said:
Dude you are do unnecessary gay.
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Who and why are they gay? I thought this was about learning, manipulating and using new technology and software....can't we just be helpful instead of this? It's useless....someone may have done as I did and now have to read through and spend more time on this BS to get to the possibility of a solution.
So are you thinking that the refurbished phone will have a newer firmware? I don't know about that but it doesn't seem to make sense....is that some thing like asurion would do? And if you do get a new snazzy updated phone are you promising to donate your time to the cause??? Lol
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Anyone Still Have Their Phone Unrooted / LOS Bug?

So I would like to know if anyone out there besides me has not rooted their phone yet and if not, have you gotten the LOS bug?
I had purchased an E4GT when it came out and ran it stock for about a week. Did not have on LOS. Then decided to root it and within 12 hours I had an LOS. Within another 12 hours I got another one. Nothing in my use had changed and it happened in my house both times so it was not like I was in another situation that I have not been in.
I exhanged the phone for another one and obviously did not root it this time around. It has been over a month now and I have yet to get an LOS. I have traveled in areas where there is no Sprint service, through farmlands, etc. My phone roams fine. I have been on 3G, 4G, wifi, and an airave and there is nothing that will give my phone an LOS.
I also have a friend who owns the phone and I refuse to root his because he also never got an LOS since release day and I would be willing to bet if I rooted it one would show up not long after.
This is not to bring out the haters but I want to hear from people who have never rooted their phone. Not the ones who rooted then re-installed stock. I am sure we will also get some liars in here but I usually can pick out the trolls.
This is for true LOS, not that your internet connection wasn't working or your calls went straight to VM. I have had things like that happen for years already on all of my past phones.
Never rooted, never had LOS. Damn do I miss wifi tether.
You have been Epicly Touched by Jesse Buck
Yes I'm not rooted and I have gotten LOS. Not as of late (for over the last week) but I've had 4 total the 4th one I really can't blame the phone or Sprint since everyone at the time that was/is on sprint was having the issue (20+ people I go to school with)
Outside of that I've not had an issue as of late but yes I've never been rooted and I've had LOS as have other people in this forum as well.
I do not have LOS with Chris41g's kernel.
My brother who is completely stock/never rooted gets LOS from time to time.
Never rooted, and no LoS for me.
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mattykinsx said:
I do not have LOS with Chris41g's kernel.
My brother who is completely stock/never rooted gets LOS from time to time.
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How long have you ran that kernel for?
[email protected] said:
How long have you ran that kernel for?
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Couple of weeks. I find the newer versions are better than the old.
I haven't rooted yet and I haven't had a single LOS since I got the phone on release day. That's the only reason why I haven't rooted, I'm afraid that if I do then I will start getting LOS. I wish there was a root method that didn't involve flashing anything, then I would pull the trigger on it. But for now, tethering and adfree are not a compelling enough reason for me to root and deal with the risk of LOS. I see no reason to flash a custom ROM or kernel on this phone seeing as though it is fast as hell and butter smooth the way it is. I would like to delete some crap from it though.
_MetalHead_ said:
I haven't rooted yet and I haven't had a single LOS since I got the phone on release day. That's the only reason why I haven't rooted, I'm afraid that if I do then I will start getting LOS. I wish there was a root method that didn't involve flashing anything, then I would pull the trigger on it. But for now, tethering and adfree are not a compelling enough reason for me to root and deal with the risk of LOS. I see no reason to flash a custom ROM or kernel on this phone seeing as though it is fast as hell and butter smooth the way it is. I would like to delete some crap from it though.
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Totolly Agree and feel exaclty the same way. Although, even with the crap on it their really is no negative effect on the phone at all.
I am willing to say that almost everyone that has rooted their phone has seen an LOS where the ones that never did will most likely never see one.
Everyone is *****ing about Samsung that really is more of a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue. I hope this gets sorted out and whatever Samsung updates will fix the issue with root. I can hold off for now but once an ICS Rom hits, it is going to be much harder!
Had this phone since launch and haven't rooted yet. No LOS at all. Phone goes on roaming and out just fine. First phone I have had stock but this phone is a beast. Will root once the LOS is solved or there is a rom that I can't wait for.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
I got the phone on launch day, LOS (stock) started on day 3. Rooting didnt help. Took it back for a replacement and havent had LOS at all... I rooted/added CWM yesterday, no issues. BUT, I havent flashed a rom yet, and I wont until this "update" is out...
I was stock until 2 weeks ago, and I've had the phone since one week after it came out. On stock, I had LOS 1 time. After I rooted just two weeks ago, I've had it 2 or 3 times.
[email protected] said:
Totolly Agree and feel exaclty the same way. Although, even with the crap on it their really is no negative effect on the phone at all.
I am willing to say that almost everyone that has rooted their phone has seen an LOS where the ones that never did will most likely never see one.
Everyone is *****ing about Samsung that really is more of a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue. I hope this gets sorted out and whatever Samsung updates will fix the issue with root. I can hold off for now but once an ICS Rom hits, it is going to be much harder!
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If it were a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue, then why is the manufacturer admitting that it's a manufacturing issue and releasing an update to fix the manufacturing issue? If it were a rooting issue, they'd have said "don't root and you won't have the problem".
I didn't root at first for fear of LOS, then I got it twice on the 4th day after release so I rooted anyway. Got it 1-2 times a day for a few weeks. Started running chris41g's lostkernel and now I get it once every two days to once a day tops.
Can't wait for Samsung to fix their stock problem at least they're on it this time and not screwing us like the epic 4g...which just got gingerbread i heard.
Not rooted, have had the phone since the week it launched - experienced LOS ONCE while in my house on the couch where I use the phone a lot. Haven't seen it since. I really, really miss being rooted mainly due to wifi tether and hiding annoying ads but I think the biggest thing right now is the effing camera click sounds.
I really wish there was a simple, straightforward root process that just "unlocked" the phone without really changing anything. Is such a thing even in process? Until then, I'm likely not going to do jack because LOS problems would be a ***** compared to the annoying camera clicks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269890
17 page thread with all types of users reporting it.
[email protected] said:
Totolly Agree and feel exaclty the same way. Although, even with the crap on it their really is no negative effect on the phone at all.
I am willing to say that almost everyone that has rooted their phone has seen an LOS where the ones that never did will most likely never see one.
Everyone is *****ing about Samsung that really is more of a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue. I hope this gets sorted out and whatever Samsung updates will fix the issue with root. I can hold off for now but once an ICS Rom hits, it is going to be much harder!
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Flashing may trigger LOS, but it is not the root cause (no pun intended). My phone is bone stock and had LOS bug pretty bad. Even happened in a Sprint store while I was showing them.
CS had me do a data profile clear/re-update and all has been good since.
If you think rooting is the cause of LOS you're wrong, plain and simple. Some kernels may cause it to happen more often however. I had it 4 or 5 times when stock. I'm rooted now with chris41g's stock pulled w/cwm5 kernel and haven't had LOS since. I won't be surprised if I get LOS again, but it's definitely not because I rooted my phone. It's a problem right out of the box
Once again, root (su binaries and busy box, typically) DOES NOT CAUSE LOS.
The phones can get LOS bone stock. Mine did.
Custom kernels seem to exacerbate the problem...though new kernels seem to have figured it out. (current kernel is over a week in use with no LOS...as good as stock)
You can have root with a stock kernel.
You can debate LOS occurrence frequency differences between stock and custom kernels but please get your terminology straightened out. All of this is causing the conversation to always turn into a debate into an argument, every time and scaring people who want to root...and them the conversation comes back, the cycle persists and just gets louder every time.
Get your terminology straight...
...root has nothing to do with this. Period.
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You can have root with a stock kernel.
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Thank you - that is what I was wondering. I understand what you're saying about rooting not being the cause of LOS but, as you said yourself, some of the kernels used to root these phones seem to exacerbate the problem. There are a few different camps of thinking here and one of them is the group that almost never or never experienced LOS out of the box. To them, the link between rooting and seemingly more frequent occurrences of LOS is enough to make them hesitate to root. Another group are those that experienced LOS already and maybe have nothing to lose to rooting and seeing what happens. I can tell you that, having experienced only one LOS since launch on a stock GS2, if I were to root today and experience LOS tomorrow I'd just have to link the two.
I'm not very knowledgeable on the rooting process but I have rooted almost every android phone I've ever had: Hero, EVO, Photon. ... I'll have to read up on which of the latest root methods for this phone seem to be the best as far as not experiencing LOS and maybe I'll just give it a whirl and see. If nothing else, it'll add to the body of knowledge and experience for this phone.
I'm a month into ownership and still no LOS. Been rooted on and off for 3 weeks and have run both types of LoStKernel and the Stock Pulled Kernel. I've flashed back to completely stock unrooted twice to have a clean slate to work with. No issues yet.
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New to Sprint & L900. What's the 411?

Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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The worst part about the android community, unfortunately, is the fragmentation of general knowledge. The rooting process for a Nexus is probably identical to a Note 2 but the names of everything and builds and versions are all different, so you have to learn new 'words' like it is a new language. Fortunately you have a great community so you just have to learn how to search for things. Check the general section for android development I think there is a sticky that has a glossory of terms that explains all the acronyms.
I've had mine for 3 months but I would still welcome a crash course as well.
Well I prefer twrp as my custom recovery. Depending on your firmware version you can root without your phone ever going to download mode. I did. I used exynos abuse to get root. Then used mobile odin to flash a new rom. Always reset google wallet if you are reseting or flashing a new rom. Its tempermental. I would stay around only the sprint veraion for now. There is a way to use roms from other note 2 variants. I believe its in the dev section. Recovery is standalone. So swirching roms doesnt change it. You cannot talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time unless you are using wifi or 4glte. If you like to draw or doodle there is sketchbook mobile which is awesome. Btw ma7 is the most current firmware that I know of. Also you can sideload the google wallet apk with no extra work to get it working. Goodluck and read alot.
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
what is the benefit of rooting
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You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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what is CWM and TWRP
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ClockWork Mod and TeamWin Recovery Project. Both have custom recovery pieces. I personally had some troubles with CWM on this phone and just use Odin now. I head TWRP works better than CWM on the Note 2, but Odin is the Tool Samsung suggests. Note that TWRP is MUCH more feature-rich than Odin. You might choose TWRP (or CWM) if you wanted to flash stuff from your SD card rather than from your PC- good for jumping around between kernels on the fly, for example.
Odin and the other two are all ways to flash stuff to your phone. That's all Odin does; the other two have lots more features.
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can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney
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Heck yeah! Simplest way is to root it and uninstall everything you don't like (Root App Delete from the Play Store seems to work pretty well; be sure you have a backup before you start blowing stuff away).
If you'd like to take it a step further, get a custom ROM that's been debloated; they normally require a full wipe, so bye bye sprint stuff. (Again, root it and back it up first!)
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You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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I appreciate you taking the time to go through all that, but I think maybe I didn't explain too well what I was trying to get. I wasn't asking for the general info, just things specific to CDMA and the L900. Like what was replying about. Not trying to be a jerk, but I know there's already a thousand threads on recoverys, ROMs, and rooting. Just didn't wanna do anything to my phone that would be irreversible (i.e. The resetting Google Wallet thing) or something that would cause signal issues (I read stuff on flashing certain ROMs on certain modems may create issues). Stuff like that. Like I said though appreciate the time you took, and any info you may have like that would certainly be appreciated.
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Oh I forgot. If you are on ljc expect to not go back to it if you update to ma7. For some reason lots of people have had trouble going back. It would cause slot of problems. Ma7 is just fine for me though. Great battery life and what not. I would say do the update. If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7. If there is anything I am missing that you still need answers to or don't understand just ask. Its also a good habit to update profile and prl when switching roms or modems.
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...If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7...
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I picked up something along those lines from reading around. It took all of 15 minutes out of the box before I got all rooted with new ROMs being flashed after playing around on stock just to get a baseline with all the ROM hoping that was sure to follow. Needless to say I didn't read up on anything modem wise before doing all this as I, admittedly, jumped the gun a little (I was just so excited to have a whole new community with new dev teams and all these foreign ROMs to explore). I used Max's trusty galaxynote2root site to root (love that guy). And used the GalaxyNote2RootSprint.zip to obtain root. Then, went straight into the original development section and immediately flashed the absolutely amazing Liquid Smooth. Now I should say, I did receive a message saying the was an update to the phone through sprint and I did proceed with the OTA while dling the zip and giving root instructions a quick once over. So, I'm guessing that took care of going to ma7 for me? Cuz I'm definitely using the ma7 modem. Now I did leave my beloved aosp as I did want to see if I would actually use all the S pen features that aosp sadly doesn't offer us. I jumped around from Whapasaurous to Venom Ice a d finally to Macks All Star, but I'm assuming that unless it's totally different from GSM that flashing a new ROM has no effect on your modem (but by all means correct me if I'm wrong). So just wanna make sure I went about things the right way here.
P. S. I did use the zip to revert the sd cards file format when returning from aosp so I didn't have to deal with all that "0" and "legacy" nonsense.
Thanks again!
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Sprint Connection Optimizer will do that
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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You need to turn off sprint connection optimizer in setting more settings I believe
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budde2 said:
I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Yeah the wifi thing Will kill your battery. Sprint is not as bad as everyone thinks and says I have great LTE in 90% of where I go. I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile because I'm sick of cdma devices we are always are considered last ro none over GSM. If sprint keeps up the good work with the LtE and 3g ill be saying. Glad you hot it figured out for rh the most part.
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Not currently rooted running 4.1.2 should i wait to root?

Hey guys and girls just joined the site been looking around and reading alot of interesting things.
Like the title says im running 4.1.2 but i hear there might be a release of 4.2 coming the 20th?
I'm wanting to root my phone and join the club. I'm pretty much a newb when it come to this I want to make sure i do everything right when i start the process i'm a truck driver so my phone is a important part of my day to day activity and cant end up bricking my phone.
Ive been looking at youtube vids and reading comments some people having problems and some doing just fine.
Could someone recommend a link one with a video to show the process that would be great, should i wait for a over the air update to 4.2
Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Ditto on rooting before an update. Get root before the Knox **** hits your phone and your warranty is permanently b0rked. Once 4.3 and Knox is on your phone, if you ever root there's chance in hell of ever claiming on your warranty. More likely than not.
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Thanks for moving the thread
What happened with the link being removed for the toolkit download? I watched the video on post #4 seems to be easiest way to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956180
Is this still a good option for rooting the phone?
Any ideas?
Just got my 4.1.2 note today. Within an hour after bringing it home I found the old toolkit I rooted with my other note before I traded it. Why wait
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Not wanting to wait just want an instruction how to I'm a trucker with a lap top and never have Wi-Fi unless I'm at McDonald's so I don't get to check and download what I'm needing to.

I am thinking in either selling this or just update to official

I haven't been able to fully take advantage of my rooted phone and I get tired of re reading and trying to use other roms and doing back up and always finding myself clueless and returning here to ask you guys what where the steps by steps guide.
I can't get another phone yet because I have a contract with AT&T and it will take a few more months.
I am using SlimBean rom probably a very old version and I haven't update it yet and well I get many bugs and other issues such as my pho0ne restarting when playing videos on full screen.
Sometimes I feel desperate and just want to restart from scratch and unroot the phone by installing the latest update of the official phone.
So, the phone is practically unscratched and well taken cared if any of you are interested.
Suggestions are welcome.
Asking price? Age of phone?
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Asking price? Age of phone?
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Make your offer.
Age would be... around 2 years or so...
Harkadenn said:
Make your offer.
Age would be... around 2 years or so...
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I would except I am in Canada and you're probably in the USA.
Harkadenn said:
I haven't been able to fully take advantage of my rooted phone and I get tired of re reading and trying to use other roms and doing back up and always finding myself clueless and returning here to ask you guys what where the steps by steps guide.
I can't get another phone yet because I have a contract with AT&T and it will take a few more months.
I am using SlimBean rom probably a very old version and I haven't update it yet and well I get many bugs and other issues such as my pho0ne restarting when playing videos on full screen.
Sometimes I feel desperate and just want to restart from scratch and unroot the phone by installing the latest update of the official phone.
So, the phone is practically unscratched and well taken cared if any of you are interested.
Suggestions are welcome.
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Have you tried going to Swappa.com? You'd probably get a better selling price there than on places like that online auction site. Plus you don't pay any fees and it's the XDA recommended option for buying and selling phones.
Seriously though, you may want to revert to a full stock ROM to fix the performance issues. Reverting to a stock ROM would often let you know if any performance issues are firmware or hardware based as different custom ROMs often come with their peculiar issues.

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