Should I buy the LG G3? - LG Optimus G (International)

Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me

I would say go for it. The generation jump alone is worth it, plus if you can get it for a good price then you should take the opportunity.

Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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nchc said:
Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.

patalao said:
Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.
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In specifications, yes there is a big difference. However, in my experience of how i use a phone those specs dont convert to a great difference in daily use. Its kind of like buying a new car, its nice and you drive it faster to begin with. After a month or so you drive it the same as your old car and get to the same places. Your phone carrier keeps the internet at relatively the same speed too.
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That's why I said that the difference between the g3 and the G is even lower,so there's no point in comparing the 2, in your case of course.
If you don't benefit of the features of the phone then there's no point for you to spend much money on this

Adooda said:
Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me
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if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO

igli83 said:
if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO
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you are all guys right, the thing is that the knock on/off feature can be really useful to me since I use the phone a lot during meetings and the thing is I don't the LG will continue updating the LG OG anymore and the G3 can stay updated for 2-3 years ahead
but I don't know If I should wait for LG G4 or get this one that's my question
anyway thank you a lot

Trust me or not, you won't ever have 2-3 years support, maybe a year and an half, I would wait an half year or even a year and then decide to buy a new phone.

FWIW, my biggest issue with G3 is its size. Performance and functionality definitely gets improved with each generation, and there is no reason for not getting the best if you can afford it, but the the whole "bigger is better" trend is just driving me bonkers. I mean, with every new flagship from any OEM, the phones get bigger and bigger. G's size is perfect for me. G2 is marginally bigger (more if you add a case), but still manageable. That would be the largest form-factor for me to use comfortably. Everything bigger (and G3 is quite noticeably bigger) is just unreasonable for a phone, and getting close to a tablet territory. I never understood WTH a "phablet" is. There is no such thing in my book -- you can't sit between two chairs, you just have to put your a$$ on one or the other. Anyway, just my $0.02 worth...

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[Q] How happy are you with your LG Optimus G Pro?

Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
Go For G Pro
WayneGretzky said:
Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
kelvintisw said:
Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Got it!
That's good advice! :good:
Thanks, buddy!
Confused!!
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
donalgodon said:
The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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Thanks for the response!
So, so you think Kit Kat will come to the Optimus G Pro? It is still fairly new. If not, would there be an unofficial Kit Kat release for it? If so, would it be stable enough?
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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I don't understand your confusion, to me the choice is extremely simple:
1. Does the phone have enough storage?
To me even 32GB (maximum available for G2) is very limiting cause I take videos a lot and keep a lot of music on my device. Optimus G Pro has a SD card slot. Also, meenova or similar is not an option to me because I keep my phones in my pockets and something protruding from the USB socket will surely destroy that socket very soon.
2. Does the phone have a replaceable battery?
I am a very heavy user and current phones really don't stand a chance in terms of battery lifespan, current batteries have a service life which is not sufficient to me (I already killed and replaced one battery on my Galaxy Note within a year due to normal wear). Replacing a battery at a service center for an undisclosed amount of money (usually more than 50 EUR) is absolutely unacceptable to me when I could buy a battery off-the-shelf for 15 EUR and replace it myself in phones with user-replaceable batteries.
3. Is the phone too big to handle and carry?
Since I moved from a SE Xperia Arc S to a Galaxy Note I found out that to me the bigger screen size is a lot more important than the ability to handle the phone with one hand.
The performance margin between the two would be marginal in most scenarios (even to me as a heavy user) and the possible future updates are almost a non-issue because manufacturers tend to stop software support for their phones before the next meaningful Android upgrade has emerged (most Android version upgrades are too incremental to me to make or break the deal, at least since 4.1).
they both great you wont be disappointed
camper the specs and decide
i choose GPro cos:
cost even for 32GB
5.5"
sdcard / battery is replaceable and good
very good performance for my usage I'm not a gamer
great experience from stock [ no lags and GUI is cool ]
easier to hold then note 2 or 3
disadvantages:
camera in low light
lg support no KK?
IMO build is OK but protection needed and recommended
Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great.....
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Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great, and nothing to complain.....
I say go for the g pro. Ive been through 6 phones in less than 2 months and g pro is my fav. I had Xperia Ion, Samsung gs2, Atrix 4g, HTC One, Oppo Find 5 and Nexus 4. Obviously N4 and HTC One had the most devs but g pro is still fairly new and it has so much screen real estate. Im pretty sure once someone gets their hands on that g2 os we will have a port. Things are moving on this thread, slowly, but we are getting there. Out of all my phones i still think g pro is the best.
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optimus g vs nexus 5

hi, i want to buy a new smatphone but i don't know if buy optimus g or nexus 5.
According to you, is OG still a good device or i should buy a more recent nexus 5?
Thanks
Really that's a real question?
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atifsh said:
Really that's a real question?
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Don't know if it's real or just a lousy troll attempt...
try to buy nokia 3310
Nexus 5 is better if you are okay with it size
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Nexus 5 is better if you are okay with it size
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Lol...what size? N5 is 6 mm taller and 1mm wider.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5705&idPhone2=4941
lgog? why not n4 vs n5? n5 is a lot better then lgog(no offense to lgog) because lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4) and both have the same storage, but the n5 have way better performance, i saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history).if i would ask that i would do nexus 4 vs 5, then because of dev support and google support i would recommend the n5 just if u need 32gb or if u are a full android enthusiast that needs the lastest hardware .
IDK just my 0.2c
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lgog? why not n4 vs n5? n5 is a lot better then lgog(no offense to lgog) because lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4) and both have the same storage, but the n5 have way better performance, i saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history).if i would ask that i would do nexus 4 vs 5, then because of dev support and google support i would recommend the n5 just if u need 32gb or if u are a full android enthusiast that needs the lastest hardware .
IDK just my 0.2c
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Sloow?!?! Lg og is one if the fastest phones around here...it s very well optimized...i think that it doesnt need any update.
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Nexus 5..... If size doesn't matter then go for it..... Else nexus 4......
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To get a good opinion here you should tell the price difference on both phones, because IMHO don't make sense compare N5 with LGOG you should compare N5 with G2 and LGOG with N4.
Personally I prefer LG on both, even if I need to pay a little more.
AOSP is not for me and I'm happy with LG software goodies and performance, if I decide to void warranty I can do a lot with LG too...
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lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4), I saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history)
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lol
@opssemnik ..wow..you really know about mobiles..i'm shocked to find out lgog is a slow device because it has a crappy software from lg. And to set the standards by some tests,wow,another shock. Are you sure you own a G?have you spent more than 5 minutes with it?fyi,the g is a real beast and the lg gesture ui is one of the best out there. It's way better integrated than samsung,htc or sony.
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Unless you like the design of og
Nexus 5 is sure a better choice
kimitza said:
@opssemnik ..wow..you really know about mobiles..i'm shocked to find out lgog is a slow device because it has a crappy software from lg. And to set the standards by some tests,wow,another shock. Are you sure you own a G?have you spent more than 5 minutes with it?fyi,the g is a real beast and the lg gesture ui is one of the best out there. It's way better integrated than samsung,htc or sony.
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1st i didnt say im mobile expert, but i used lg og on the 1st days(thats why i tried to flash lgog rom on my n4,went all fine but no touch), it was like the s3, it was not slow, but games that lag there, dont lag on my n4, games like gta vice city were doing lag spikes on stock and custom,on my n4 it dosent,ah also google chrome is wayyy more slower then on my n4, and both have the same hardware(few modifications).
Didnt say its a really slow device, but the gain of performance that i had on n4 can be only said because of pure android.
PS: yea that typo on 4.4 i meant 4.1.
Games are running better on the OG. That is fact. And about Antutu, the OG also scores higher. The only really big plus point for the nexus is the Google support.
at first, say, what you need, what you do with the phone, what do you like!
and 4,7" with softkeys ist the same as 5" without softkeys (yes, since 4.4 there is a fullscreen mode but not in all apps
i bought a o G because i like lg UI soo much, i dont like aosp!
quality in both phone is identic
Chrome lags on vanilla too. It's a crappy coded app. Period. Does chrome come as default browser on og?no.do you have lag on stock browser?again,no.So why do you bring to discussion a 3rd party app? Lg may have give use 4.1.2,but at least it's light and very well optimized.
The only thing i don't like about lg ui is the damn launcher. 4x4 grid and that hideous 320dpi is a no go.
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Being an owner of both phones, both are fast. But the n5 is snappier
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i would say if u are going to pay a new phone today, i would totally go for the Nexus 5, stock android, Snapdragon processor, what more to say?
no overlay on the android from LG at all.
i own a Nexus 7 and i totally love stock android it just is running better then anything else, it's too bad my phone just ain't happy with a custom rom so i can run something like stock android.
I said it before,having a nexus is like having a supersport car. You will have ultimate speed,but no comfort. So,getting a good optimized device like optimus g won't be a loss. You have both speed and comfort.
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Is This Phone Worth It?

Hey guys, I currently own a Nexus S and I'm probably gonna upgrade in about a month.
Was wondering if the Optimus G is still worth the upgrade? It has all the specs I need,
-Removable battery
-Expandable memory
-2GB ram
-4.7inch screen (as big as I'm willing to go...although I can compromise)
-Great custom roms
-Hardware buttons!!!
My only gripe is that from looking around this forum, it looks like developer interest might already be fading and the only reason I've been on the Nexus S this long is cause of the great developer support, I like my phones to last long.
If not this phone, then which? Thanks.
The E975 doesn't have removable battery.Neither the expandable memory. Make sure you buy a phone that works in your country.
The memory should not be a problem(you have 25.4gb available)
The battery is good,no need to carry an extra one in your pocket.
The display is great,way better than samsung's amoleds.
About the roms, yes, there are great builds,but,to be honest, nothing is compared to stock. now i'm runing on a stock rom,modded like it says in my signature.is fast as hell .If you are a flashcoholic,you have where to pick from(stock based roms, 4.2,4.3,even 4.4 roms).
The only downside is that LG sucks at updates. While you were used to nexus serie,which has pure vanilla and official google updates,it won't be the case for Optimus. But you won't miss it either. the software is as good as it can be, miles ahead of touchwizz.
My advice,yes,you can buy this phone,it still is top notch.
kimitza said:
The E975 doesn't have removable battery.Neither the expandable memory. Make sure you buy a phone that works in your country.
The memory should not be a problem(you have 25.4gb available)
The battery is good,no need to carry an extra one in your pocket.
The display is great,way better than samsung's amoleds.
About the roms, yes, there are great builds,but,to be honest, nothing is compared to stock. now i'm runing on a stock rom,modded like it says in my signature.is fast as hell .If you are a flashcoholic,you have where to pick from(stock based roms, 4.2,4.3,even 4.4 roms).
The only downside is that LG sucks at updates. While you were used to nexus serie,which has pure vanilla and official google updates,it won't be the case for Optimus. But you won't miss it either. the software is as good as it can be, miles ahead of touchwizz.
My advice,yes,you can buy this phone,it still is top notch.
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Ahh....no removable battery or expandable memory. If that's the case, I might as well get a Nexus 5 hahahah
Where are you from?
kimitza said:
Where are you from?
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England, but I get my phones unlocked cause I travel a lot so lots of sim changes.
The battery of this phone sucks.
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The battery of this phone sucks.
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No it doesn't.
To the OP: the Nexus 5 doesn't have expandable memory or removable battery either.
fabripav said:
No it doesn't.
To the OP: the Nexus 5 doesn't have expandable memory or removable battery either.
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Yeah I know, it seems the only thing that does nowadays is the S4 and I don't want that so I'm just gonna suck it up and compromise.
About battery life, I've heard the Nexus 5 battery isn't that great either but I'm guessing rom/kernel hopping will take care of that for me lmao Battery issue of phones is why I usually narrow my search to removable batteries only but alas, can't have everything.
in UK,go for E975. What's the price you found it there?If you want,i can make you a great offer for a mint condition E975 . We'll talk on PM if you're interested.
@sunnytse1 if you don't know how to use the phone,please don't make these kind of remarks.
I'd recommend you getting a HTC One or S4. I mean they cost about the same as optimus g and you'll be able to flash google edition roms.
Optimus G is ok. I mean it is fast as hell and screen is quite good, but battery life sucks, glass back will shatter, and camera quality is sub bar. So if can get one cheap - take it. If not, go with Nexus 5 or other GPlay phones.
Totally agree with you about battery life, it's great! (Im using stock rom btw)
Lol....one and s4 at the same price with og?where is that?i'll give you mine for either one of those to. Just to sell it and buy a g2.slowly the g is improving. Latest update i received made my phone even snapier,and it has improved camera quality.we might not get latest android,but i'm ok if they improve 4.1.2. A lot complain about lg not providing update to a newer version,but if i ask why do they want it,they start to blabber non sense.i'm not minimizing the importance of 4.2,4.3 or 4.4,but,in my opinion,it's overrated.i rather have a stable 4.1.2,than a newer buggy version.
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OP, youd be mad to go anything other than nexus 5 (or 4 if you're on a tight budget).
The OG doesn't have good developer support (just compare this forum with the nexus4 one). For the money the N5 is a no brainer.
Btw, I own a OG and a nexus 4. I always come to regret buying anything other than nexus as, like you, I believe developer support is a VERY important aspect of owning an android device.
Before you know it a kernel will be posted on the N5 forums that lasts much longer than your nexus s ever did. My n4 gets me 34 hours on a single charge with 3.5 hours screen on time running Franco kernel. It's bloody amazing what these guys can and will do.
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You forget one thing,the most important : people like us are mealry 2%. The rest don't give a sh!t on updates or latest version.so,who do you think manufacturers make phones for?us or them?they want a stable phone for daily usage.and with the og(and not only) you get that. I was once into pure android,but when when i saw it lacks all of those features,i gave up. Now i want a litle bling bling and some features.it's like having a supersport car without any luxury on it,not even an air conditioner.great,i can drive 300kmh but i'm melting on driver's seat.
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So if its possible for you, then take the N5. But if you wanna chose N4 or OG, i would suggest you the G because its just the better phone.
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I'd recommend you getting a HTC One or S4. I mean they cost about the same as optimus g and you'll be able to flash google edition roms.
Optimus G is ok. I mean it is fast as hell and screen is quite good, but battery life sucks, glass back will shatter, and camera quality is sub bar. So if can get one cheap - take it. If not, go with Nexus 5 or other GPlay phones.
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Wow, so much wrong in everything.
HTC One and S4 don't really cost about the same as Optimus G.
On the LGOG battery life doesn't suck at all (I have stock rom, no root and always get at least 30 hours from it with normal-to-heavy use), and the camera quality is very good if you use an app that isn't the stock one. About the glass back, wut?
Anyway, between LGOG and N5 I'd definitely choose N5.
between N5 and OG,i'll choose G2,but that's another matter. OP....choose whatever you like and suits you.
Well yeah g2 is better than n5, but I doubt you can find one for the same price. Also n5 will definitely have more updates than g2.
Omfg...just stop it already with the updates. You guys start to sound like a broken record. Lg makes great software. It's the most stable from all oem's. If vanilla is so good,then why are so many complains on nexus sections? In europe there no price difference between g2 and n5. G2 32gb is 450 euros,n5 16gb 420euros,if you are lucky to live in a country with play store. If not,you'll pay more. I'm talking about official channels not gray or black market. So,tell me which one is worthed.
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sabaramo said:
OP, youd be mad to go anything other than nexus 5 (or 4 if you're on a tight budget).
The OG doesn't have good developer support (just compare this forum with the nexus4 one). For the money the N5 is a no brainer.
Btw, I own a OG and a nexus 4. I always come to regret buying anything other than nexus as, like you, I believe developer support is a VERY important aspect of owning an android device.
Before you know it a kernel will be posted on the N5 forums that lasts much longer than your nexus s ever did. My n4 gets me 34 hours on a single charge with 3.5 hours screen on time running Franco kernel. It's bloody amazing what these guys can and will do.
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Developer support?!!! We have all the good candy in here.. From CM, PA to Omni to PAC with good mathching kernels also. Hell if u go to the AT&T section you can use all the ROMs there but with a 975 kernel..
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Seeking advice - G3 vs G4

I have the option to get an entirely new G3 32GB/3GB for 150 EUR less than a G4. I know that this is relative thing but still would like to get some opinions, maybe somebody moved from G3 to G4 and regret it for a reason or another or maybe you think the G4 is better in all aspects, etc ... much appreciated.
My brother has the G4 and its crazy fast. The Camera is pretty insane too. Only thing is its a new phone and no recovery or bootloader unlock for everyone but the International G4. They have root so at least that's good. Other than that I would say its a solid upgrade.
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If I have the cash to spend, I'd take the latest flagship any day.
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If you have extra cash, go for G4. In my opinion, 150 EUR is worth it.
G3 is already pushed second in the line and delays with updates. You would be dissapointed if you bought a new phone which has bad support from the beginning you purchased it.
samitro said:
I have the option to get an entirely new G3 32GB/3GB for 150 EUR less than a G4. I know that this is relative thing but still would like to get some opinions, maybe somebody moved from G3 to G4 and regret it for a reason or another or maybe you think the G4 is better in all aspects, etc ... much appreciated.
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It all depends on what you're looking for. If I can't get root on a device, specifically a phone, I will wait until it's rootable. However I wish the camera on the G3 was capable of what the G4 camera can do. Looks like it won't ever be able to do those things. I guess the chipset of the G3 doesn't support the same camera API(s) that the G4 does.
I have the G3 D850. I love the phone. It is my favorite phone I've ever owned. Recently my partner switched from Apple to the new G4. I tweaked it a bit for him and I must say that I was VERY impressed. The speed is incredible. It runs Lollipop like a boss and shows true zero lag when quickly maneuvering through the OS. The camera is phenomenal and I cannot say enough good things about the quality and speed of it. If you have the choice, go for the G4, you will not be disappointed.
To be honest I'm not sure I would bother to uprade to G4. For me the G4 is a G3 on steroids.
To me at this point I'm happier on the G3 since there's far more stuff such as ROMs and what not available. If/when the G4 finally at least gets bumped kernels and such then the G4 to me will finally be ready for prime time. Both the G3 and G4 are in my opinion two of the best devices on the market right now.
I'd stay with the g3 because of root and xposed, I can't live without xposed and the g4 is just a g3 with a better camera and faster OS but its barely customisable.
If I could, I'd switch manufacturers, LG just isn't worth it ATM.
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If I have the cash to spend, I'd take the latest flagship any day.
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Anybody would.
I recently moved to Nexus 6P but I'll answer anyways, stay with the G3, sure the camera is custom but honestly you can get a Google play store app if you want custom camera shots and it's so much cheaper to buy with a hell of a lot more customisation. Either you go big or go small when buying phones. Latest flagship or buy budget wise. Macro shots on the 6P still don't compare to the G3. And the expandable storage I miss too.
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Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.
Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...
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As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light
I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix
I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.
I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.
I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...

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