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Returned to my Optimus G Pro from Galaxy S4

Just a note after my Galaxy S4 disaster (s4 screen broke in my pocket)
I went back to my Optimus G Pro. And what a difference. I fell for the hype and benchmarks of the i9500 8 core. Ok so my OGP gets 19k in antutu and my S4 got 29k. 10k more. Thing is in the real word. My optimus g pro is sooo much quicker and snapper in everything it does. Typing is faster and easier I could go on and on. Benchmarks don't mean jack and I finally learnt that the hard way. Real life usage is what counts.
The launcher and S_Bloat make the S4 stutter and lag. If an s4 owner says that not true either they are immune to it and use to it. Or pure blinded fanboys.
If you know someone with an S4 put the phones side by side and do phone tasks. You'll see stutters and lag on the S4 but smoothness on the OGP.
I wasted a lot of money since my S4 broke, but glad I have the best phone out there for me. The Optimus G Pro. King of phablets.
My F240K next to my weak S4 that could not live in my jeans pocket without cracking an amloed screen.

Hendrickson said:
Just a note after my Galaxy S4 disaster (s4 screen broke in my pocket)
I went back to my Optimus G Pro. And what a difference. I fell for the hype and benchmarks of the i9500 8 core. Ok so my OGP gets 19k in antutu and my S4 got 29k. 10k more. Thing is in the real word. My optimus g pro is sooo much quicker and snapper in everything it does. Typing is faster and easier I could go on and on. Benchmarks don't mean jake and I finally learnt that the hard way. Real life usage is what counts.
The launcher and S_Bloat make the S4 stutter and lag. If an s4 owner says that not true either they are immune to it and use to it. Or pure blinded fanboys.
If you know someone with an S4 put the phones side by side and do phone tasks. You'll see stutters and lag on the S4 but smoothness on the OGP.
I wasted a lot of money since my S4 broke, but glad I have the best phone out there for me. The Optimus G Pro. King of phablets.
My F240K next to my weak S4 that could not live in my jeans pocket without cracking an amloed screen.
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Could not agree with you more. I have a galaxy s4 and it lags and sucks. The LG Optimus G Pro is a much faster device. I agree most folks claiming galaxy s4 is the best are pure fanbois. It's funny these same fanbois make fun of apple fanbois and they are not better. They take whatever Samsung feeds them and they love it. Galaxy s4 battery also sucks it's just not a wow phone and sub par even thought specs are similar to LG.
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Yep its over rated. I've found everything my Optimus G Pro does, is much faster and better than the S4. I forgot to mention. The camera is faster and better indoors. My S4 suffered horrible shutter lag. Music quality is better. Battery much better. I could go on and on.
I was blinded into thinking the S4 was better. Good marketing in Samsung part I must admit. They are more like Apple more as each new device is released.
The i8910 Omnia was good, the S2 was good. S3 onwards = made for the masses. And I fell for it.
LG It seems have stuck to there plan, if they just improve there updates to new android versions they could be selling much more as their hardware is top notch.

Hendrickson said:
Yep its over rated. I've found everything my Optimus G Pro does, is much faster and better than the S4. I forgot to mention. The camera is faster and better indoors. My S4 suffered horrible shutter lag. Music quality is better. Battery much better. I could go on and on.
I was blinded into thinking the S4 was better. Good marketing in Samsung part I must admit. They are more like Apple more as each new device is released.
The i8910 Omnia was good, the S2 was good. S3 onwards = made for the masses. And I fell for it.
LG It seems have stuck to there plan, if they just improve there updates to new android versions they could be selling much more as their hardware is top notch.
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Also it seems the sg4. And the HTC one are having some strange build issues. I was reading about camera lens problems on the one and screen breaking in the sg4. The sad part is how rude and nasty those forum are becoming. Glad I pick up this phone and the people here are more helpful and appears to have a better sense of community. Thanks guys for being great people.
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Yes I know what you mean. I post about my screen breaking on my S4 in the s4 forums and was accused of lying and making it all up. Got some nasty replies. That I must have dropped the phone. Many users there are now completely blind and cant hear anything bad about their beloved s4.
Good thing was a few other users on aged accounts also posted the same issue with the screen (amoled) cracking in their pockets. The lag too from the poor software launcher goes mostly unnoticed apart from comments like root and uninstall the bloat, issue fixed.
Shouldn't be like that in the first place. Well OGP will be my phone for a while till the OG2P is out. Well done LG.

Agreed
I also felt that s4 has no any thing which is perfectly crafted...everything is half baked....octa core to air view to heating to low memory to screen smearing etc...only gimmic is perfect
But ..bitter truth THAT LG Optimus G Pro has everything better except Dev Support...
If this device gets dev support like note devices...it will be great for long run

ipsuvedi said:
Agreed
If this device gets dev support like note devices...it will be great for long run
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amen to that !

Hendrickson said:
Just a note after my Galaxy S4 disaster (s4 screen broke in my pocket)
I went back to my Optimus G Pro. And what a difference. I fell for the hype and benchmarks of the i9500 8 core. Ok so my OGP gets 19k in antutu and my S4 got 29k. 10k more
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It is the throttling capping going in play, if you disable throttling GPro goes as high as 24200 in Antutu, pretty comparable to S4 as i9505 has [email protected] and GPro has [email protected] only

Billy Madison said:
It is the throttling capping going in play, if you disable throttling GPro goes as high as 24200 in Antutu, pretty comparable to S4 as i9505 has [email protected] and GPro has [email protected] only
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Yes but that can't be disabled or can it? Well I'm sure its there as a safe guard anyway

Hendrickson said:
Yes but that can't be disabled or can it?
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Yes, it can be, I'll create a thread with simple instruction cause seems like it is not widely known here for unknown reasons
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Well I'm sure its there as a safe guard anyway
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No, I'm pretty sure it is not safeguard but mere care of consumers' comfort. Look how hot could G Pro go on early ROMs, I assume before they've created new updated thermal.conf

Billy Madison said:
Yes, it can be, I'll create a thread with simple instruction cause seems like it is not widely known here for unknown reasons
No, I'm pretty sure it is not safeguard but mere care of consumers' comfort. Look how hot could G Pro go on early ROMs, I assume before they've created new updated thermal.conf
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So there's a way to bump the cpu from 1700 to 1900?
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wiser212 said:
So there's a way to bump the cpu from 1700 to 1900?
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Honestly itll probably go higher than that once roms start coming out.
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Billy Madison said:
Yes, it can be, I'll create a thread with simple instruction cause seems like it is not widely known here for unknown reasons
No, I'm pretty sure it is not safeguard but mere care of consumers' comfort. Look how hot could G Pro go on early ROMs, I assume before they've created new updated thermal.conf
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I would really love to know how. I get lag when using any live wallpaper on my home screen. Hoping this might be my savior.
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Billy Madison said:
It is the throttling capping going in play, if you disable throttling GPro goes as high as 24200 in Antutu, pretty comparable to S4 as i9505 has [email protected] and GPro has [email protected] only
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Please do share how to so this, increase the throttling temp range
I have done some editing in system/etc/thermald.conf
Warning messing with values here could cause heat damage to your OGP
Run adb logcat | grep Thermal
You can see when it throttles
LG have various temp sensor alarms that clock down the CPU when it gets to 57 degrees if I reading it right.

lessthanzach said:
I would really love to know how. I get lag when using any live wallpaper on my home screen. Hoping this might be my savior.
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No, I don't think it'll help with lags but anyhow, this is it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296447
I think lags are from incorrect idle activities implementation either on Qualcomm side on LG side, the overheating is not to blame here

give it time
They are brand new devices, so give it a few months before you seriously judge them.
For example, scrolling in Chrome is smooth as butter on my GSII and yet I get lots of stutters scrolling Chrome on my Optimus G Pro, even though it is has faster everything [cpu/gpu/ram]. That being said, I am not going to call the Optimus G Pro junk, just because it isn't perfect.

Thats down to software. I use the Internet browser and its fast and smooth. Chrome isn't. And typing about:debug then hitting settings button allows you debug setting like making the user agent desktop.

Evil_Burrito said:
They are brand new devices, so give it a few months before you seriously judge them.
For example, scrolling in Chrome is smooth as butter on my GSII and yet I get lots of stutters scrolling Chrome on my Optimus G Pro, even though it is has faster everything [cpu/gpu/ram]. That being said, I am not going to call the Optimus G Pro junk, just because it isn't perfect.
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It's definitely not junk. I swapped from my gs4 to a HTC one to this and I like it a lot. I just never experienced lag like this from using any live wallpaper before.
Billy Madison said:
No, I don't think it'll help with lags but anyhow, this is it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296447
I think lags are from incorrect idle activities implementation either on Qualcomm side on LG side, the overheating is not to blame here
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Thanks, I'll check it out and see if it helps.
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I just picked up one after having the HTC One for a bit. It is nice, but the DPI is killing me, everything is HUGE!

designgears said:
I just picked up one after having the HTC One for a bit. It is nice, but the DPI is killing me, everything is HUGE!
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Oh nice. Glad you are here. This phone has a lot of potential

[Q] Wich phone should I step in?

I was reading about specifications in Nexus 4 and Optimus G, and they are almost twins, wich one is better?
There's a Oxygen like rom for Optimus G?
Don't know if there's a place for questions like this, sorry if I'm asking in the wrong section...

As many people say... If you care about being the first getting Android OS updates then go for the Nexus 4. OG is exactly the same just a little bit better (according to people words)
As far as i know N4 roms can be ported to OG so i wouldn't find upgrades a big issue besides personally the OG's design is better than the N4.

Nexus 4 has onscreen buttons, 16GB memory and 8mp camera.
Optimus G has capacative buttons, 32gb memory and 13mp camera.
As for roms there are fewer and slightly slower updates but they are still very stable. Not sure what Oxygen rom is, check through the development section.
Dont forget the G also has 4G. Both are good phones so all depends on how you will use it.

wargreymon89 said:
Nexus 4 has onscreen buttons, 16GB memory and 8mp camera.
Optimus G has capacative buttons, 32gb memory and 13mp camera.
As for roms there are fewer and slightly slower updates but they are still very stable. Not sure what Oxygen rom is, check through the development section.
Dont forget the G also has 4G. Both are good phones so all depends on how you will use it.
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Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.

Pedrorudi said:
Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.
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If your into pure vanilla android and flashing roms and don't mind only having 16gb of storage I strongly recommend the nexus. While the aosp roms on the optimus g are pretty good the ones for the nexus are flawless.
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Pedrorudi said:
Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.
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If it exists for Nexus 4 and is good enough, i'm sure someone will take the time to port it. I love G's design way more than N4. Recently had them both in my hand, N4 is a little bit slighter cause is all plastic but personally loved even moer my g.

The Nexus4 has one big plus, it's community and large choice of Roms and Kernel's. But apart from that i find the OG better, and if i had to choose again i would again go for my G.

I'm gonna bet that if you ask this question in N4 forum, most of people will recomend the N4 rather than OG

I've owned both so here are my views.
Both phones look great, I am preferring the OG looks slightly though with the whole 'black slab with a sparkly back'.
4.1.2 seems FAR more stable than 4.2.2, I had lots of crashes/reboots.. I'd go to wake the phone up and it'd not start so i'd have to soft reboot it. I do not get this with the OG despite identical hardware. In total I had 3 N4 all with crash/reboot issues.
Cameras on both are very so so (even the 13mp version)... It's ok for some snaps but don't expect loads.
The N4 used to heat up FAR worse than my OG does.
More screen room on the OG as no on screen buttons, it's also nice to have a menu key on the OG.
Less roms/cases/slower updates for the OG
Lots of good software features on the OG, Wise Screen (like smart screen for samsung), lots of customisation built in, LTE, some cool camera functions like time capture etc.

[Q] Optimus G, Nexus 4 or S3 LTE?

Hello guys! I have recently decided to buy a new phone, and after some searching on the internet, I cannot decide between the following phones (they all have the same price from where I buy them): Optimus G, Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3 LTE. I would go for the nexus because of the fast updates coming from Google and the powerful hardware, but I don't like that it has the buttons on the screen and I would really like an LTE phone because it is more future reliable. I like the Optimus G and the S3, but I can't decide between them. I like both interfaces, they have similar hardware, and also the storage is much bigger. I don't think that the Nexus has enough storage and I am afraid that Optimus G won't receive many updates. I mean it's stuck on 4.1.2 for quite a long...
So, in conclusion, I would like a phone that will receive updates (like 4.4 kitkat) and that has a nice interface and powerful hardware. So which one should I choose? Thank you in advance.

adrian_misto95 said:
Hello guys! I have recently decided to buy a new phone, and after some searching on the internet, I cannot decide between the following phones (they all have the same price from where I buy them): Optimus G, Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3 LTE. I would go for the nexus because of the fast updates coming from Google and the powerful hardware, but I don't like that it has the buttons on the screen and I would really like an LTE phone because it is more future reliable. I like the Optimus G and the S3, but I can't decide between them. I like both interfaces, they have similar hardware, and also the storage is much bigger. I don't think that the Nexus has enough storage and I am afraid that Optimus G won't receive many updates. I mean it's stuck on 4.1.2 for quite a long...
So, in conclusion, I would like a phone that will receive updates (like 4.4 kitkat) and that has a nice interface and powerful hardware. So which one should I choose? Thank you in advance.
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you want lte or you use or will use lte?
if lte is a must S3 has better camera
if camera is not an issue optimus G
you can always use cyanogenMod for future updates.

I say the S3 cos it has the most customizability. If there's any thing u don't like. U can change it. Also. The S3 is the best for gaming, has the best camera, and it is more well known. Which means anytime u want to know something about your phone. Search it up and I almost guarantee that you'll find it. Oh yeah. People have started to repair soft bricked and hard bricked Samsung Galaxies. Whereas other phones don't get that kinda support. (Geez I'm acting like I'm in a dam commercial).
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Wait for nexus 5
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If you want it now and care about future, s3 1gb ram and the G 2gb, everything said. If not, wait for nexus 5

atifsh said:
you want lte or you use or will use lte?
if lte is a must S3 has better camera
if camera is not an issue optimus G
you can always use cyanogenMod for future updates.
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I would like yto have lte because it seems more future proof and soon it will ne available in my city. i also heard that s3 has a poor quality built.

No s3 lte. Is worse than normal s3. Nexus4 or G. But n4 has no lte. It's a big deal,i see you're from romania. If you think 8/16gb are enough and you want the latest android on your phone,but no lte,then buy the n4. If you don't care about that,but you still want 32gb of storage,a sturdy device,with flawless lg ui(it's way lighter and better than samsung's tw),with a more than decent camera,lte connection,then go for the g. Make sure it will be e975. Other models will not have 4g in romania.
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adrian_misto95 said:
I would like yto have lte because it seems more future proof and soon it will ne available in my city. i also heard that s3 has a poor quality built.
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S3 doesn't have poor built quality, its the material used what people bugged about.
if you are in US, S3 will be a dualcore with 2GB ram, rest of the world its quad core with 1GB ram, left the LTE version i9305 which is quadcore + 2GB RAM. so search your options.

Can never go wrong with Optimus G!
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Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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adrian_misto95 said:
Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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If nexus 4 camera is same as optimus G, than yes custom rom like cm10.2 will make it better than nexus 4
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adrian_misto95 said:
Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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Yes and also almost same kernel features
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Hi,
2 months ago I also had the same issue and went for the Optimus G. I left out the N4 because the 16GB maximum storage and the lack of LTE. Regarding the S3, from the hardware point of view, I don’t think it can compete with the OG.
OG
Slighty better CPU
Much better GPU
Better display (at least for me; colors more realistic)
Better materials; feels more robust
S3
Some say it has better camera (however, for a smartphone, my only complaint about the OG’s camera has to do with the autofocus. It's not a big deal but sometimes it gets a little erratic. I don't know about the S3; OG E975 has 13Mpx)
Lighter (the consequence of the materials used)
Probably better support regarding ROM updates (let’s hope LG has learned from their mistakes)
However, you can always opt for a custom ROM. OG is not as popular as S3 but you can easily confirm here at XDA that you have many options for OG. I’m still using LGOG original ROM (E97510H-EUR-XX) and it’s very fast and stable, even with 100+ apps installed.

filipe.co said:
OG
Slighty better CPU
Much better GPU
Better display (at least for me; colors more realistic)
Better materials; feels more robust
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Just my 2 cents on the display... S3 has a Super AMOLED screen, while OG has an IPS LCD. People's opinions on the differences are quite polarized, but in my book a good LCD beats AMOLED anytime, hands down. More realistic colours, less "cartoonish". And the display on OG is just awesome -- I have a couple S3 owners commenting on how surprised they were about it.

kt-Froggy said:
Just my 2 cents on the display... S3 has a Super AMOLED screen, while OG has an IPS LCD. People's opinions on the differences are quite polarized, but in my book a good LCD beats AMOLED anytime, hands down. More realistic colours, less "cartoonish". And the display on OG is just awesome -- I have a couple S3 owners commenting on how surprised they were about it.
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once you use a good super amoled plus you will never ever want to go anywhere no matter how greater the LCD screen is, but if you are like me or someone who don't like too vibrant colors (most people like vibrant color) newer LCD's specially from LG are very very Good.
also remember Samsung has altered the display of S4 and now S3 via software update to give you option to make is realistic color and many didn't realize this and never tried it.
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people also doesn't know amoled has a very short life span vs the LCD panels, and this lifespan is about the color reproduction not the working life. so a 2 year old amoled screen will look terrible in-front of a new amoled and more than 2 year old amoled will give you strange color balance, many doesn't know this and say amoled is Sh=t.

Samsung set the standard with those over saturated colours. Being the no1 player on the market,the average user take for granted this is how a screen should be like. And the other manufacturers play samsung's game too. Take lg for example,although we have ips lcd,the coulours ARE in fact a litle over saturated. So,mentioning the colours is irrelevant. I would go for sunlight visibility,which is better for lg. The materials,also a plus for g. S3 lte has about the same custom support like our g. And i said it before,neck to neck,the kicks the butt of s3 lte.
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All this arguement would really boil down to user preference.. just get what u think is best for you
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Is This Phone Worth It?

Hey guys, I currently own a Nexus S and I'm probably gonna upgrade in about a month.
Was wondering if the Optimus G is still worth the upgrade? It has all the specs I need,
-Removable battery
-Expandable memory
-2GB ram
-4.7inch screen (as big as I'm willing to go...although I can compromise)
-Great custom roms
-Hardware buttons!!!
My only gripe is that from looking around this forum, it looks like developer interest might already be fading and the only reason I've been on the Nexus S this long is cause of the great developer support, I like my phones to last long.
If not this phone, then which? Thanks.

The E975 doesn't have removable battery.Neither the expandable memory. Make sure you buy a phone that works in your country.
The memory should not be a problem(you have 25.4gb available)
The battery is good,no need to carry an extra one in your pocket.
The display is great,way better than samsung's amoleds.
About the roms, yes, there are great builds,but,to be honest, nothing is compared to stock. now i'm runing on a stock rom,modded like it says in my signature.is fast as hell .If you are a flashcoholic,you have where to pick from(stock based roms, 4.2,4.3,even 4.4 roms).
The only downside is that LG sucks at updates. While you were used to nexus serie,which has pure vanilla and official google updates,it won't be the case for Optimus. But you won't miss it either. the software is as good as it can be, miles ahead of touchwizz.
My advice,yes,you can buy this phone,it still is top notch.

kimitza said:
The E975 doesn't have removable battery.Neither the expandable memory. Make sure you buy a phone that works in your country.
The memory should not be a problem(you have 25.4gb available)
The battery is good,no need to carry an extra one in your pocket.
The display is great,way better than samsung's amoleds.
About the roms, yes, there are great builds,but,to be honest, nothing is compared to stock. now i'm runing on a stock rom,modded like it says in my signature.is fast as hell .If you are a flashcoholic,you have where to pick from(stock based roms, 4.2,4.3,even 4.4 roms).
The only downside is that LG sucks at updates. While you were used to nexus serie,which has pure vanilla and official google updates,it won't be the case for Optimus. But you won't miss it either. the software is as good as it can be, miles ahead of touchwizz.
My advice,yes,you can buy this phone,it still is top notch.
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Ahh....no removable battery or expandable memory. If that's the case, I might as well get a Nexus 5 hahahah

Where are you from?

kimitza said:
Where are you from?
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England, but I get my phones unlocked cause I travel a lot so lots of sim changes.

The battery of this phone sucks.
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sunnytse1 said:
The battery of this phone sucks.
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No it doesn't.
To the OP: the Nexus 5 doesn't have expandable memory or removable battery either.

fabripav said:
No it doesn't.
To the OP: the Nexus 5 doesn't have expandable memory or removable battery either.
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Yeah I know, it seems the only thing that does nowadays is the S4 and I don't want that so I'm just gonna suck it up and compromise.
About battery life, I've heard the Nexus 5 battery isn't that great either but I'm guessing rom/kernel hopping will take care of that for me lmao Battery issue of phones is why I usually narrow my search to removable batteries only but alas, can't have everything.

in UK,go for E975. What's the price you found it there?If you want,i can make you a great offer for a mint condition E975 . We'll talk on PM if you're interested.
@sunnytse1 if you don't know how to use the phone,please don't make these kind of remarks.

I'd recommend you getting a HTC One or S4. I mean they cost about the same as optimus g and you'll be able to flash google edition roms.
Optimus G is ok. I mean it is fast as hell and screen is quite good, but battery life sucks, glass back will shatter, and camera quality is sub bar. So if can get one cheap - take it. If not, go with Nexus 5 or other GPlay phones.

Totally agree with you about battery life, it's great! (Im using stock rom btw)

Lol....one and s4 at the same price with og?where is that?i'll give you mine for either one of those to. Just to sell it and buy a g2.slowly the g is improving. Latest update i received made my phone even snapier,and it has improved camera quality.we might not get latest android,but i'm ok if they improve 4.1.2. A lot complain about lg not providing update to a newer version,but if i ask why do they want it,they start to blabber non sense.i'm not minimizing the importance of 4.2,4.3 or 4.4,but,in my opinion,it's overrated.i rather have a stable 4.1.2,than a newer buggy version.
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OP, youd be mad to go anything other than nexus 5 (or 4 if you're on a tight budget).
The OG doesn't have good developer support (just compare this forum with the nexus4 one). For the money the N5 is a no brainer.
Btw, I own a OG and a nexus 4. I always come to regret buying anything other than nexus as, like you, I believe developer support is a VERY important aspect of owning an android device.
Before you know it a kernel will be posted on the N5 forums that lasts much longer than your nexus s ever did. My n4 gets me 34 hours on a single charge with 3.5 hours screen on time running Franco kernel. It's bloody amazing what these guys can and will do.
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You forget one thing,the most important : people like us are mealry 2%. The rest don't give a sh!t on updates or latest version.so,who do you think manufacturers make phones for?us or them?they want a stable phone for daily usage.and with the og(and not only) you get that. I was once into pure android,but when when i saw it lacks all of those features,i gave up. Now i want a litle bling bling and some features.it's like having a supersport car without any luxury on it,not even an air conditioner.great,i can drive 300kmh but i'm melting on driver's seat.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.

So if its possible for you, then take the N5. But if you wanna chose N4 or OG, i would suggest you the G because its just the better phone.

Lost_prophet said:
I'd recommend you getting a HTC One or S4. I mean they cost about the same as optimus g and you'll be able to flash google edition roms.
Optimus G is ok. I mean it is fast as hell and screen is quite good, but battery life sucks, glass back will shatter, and camera quality is sub bar. So if can get one cheap - take it. If not, go with Nexus 5 or other GPlay phones.
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Wow, so much wrong in everything.
HTC One and S4 don't really cost about the same as Optimus G.
On the LGOG battery life doesn't suck at all (I have stock rom, no root and always get at least 30 hours from it with normal-to-heavy use), and the camera quality is very good if you use an app that isn't the stock one. About the glass back, wut?
Anyway, between LGOG and N5 I'd definitely choose N5.

between N5 and OG,i'll choose G2,but that's another matter. OP....choose whatever you like and suits you.

Well yeah g2 is better than n5, but I doubt you can find one for the same price. Also n5 will definitely have more updates than g2.

Omfg...just stop it already with the updates. You guys start to sound like a broken record. Lg makes great software. It's the most stable from all oem's. If vanilla is so good,then why are so many complains on nexus sections? In europe there no price difference between g2 and n5. G2 32gb is 450 euros,n5 16gb 420euros,if you are lucky to live in a country with play store. If not,you'll pay more. I'm talking about official channels not gray or black market. So,tell me which one is worthed.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.

sabaramo said:
OP, youd be mad to go anything other than nexus 5 (or 4 if you're on a tight budget).
The OG doesn't have good developer support (just compare this forum with the nexus4 one). For the money the N5 is a no brainer.
Btw, I own a OG and a nexus 4. I always come to regret buying anything other than nexus as, like you, I believe developer support is a VERY important aspect of owning an android device.
Before you know it a kernel will be posted on the N5 forums that lasts much longer than your nexus s ever did. My n4 gets me 34 hours on a single charge with 3.5 hours screen on time running Franco kernel. It's bloody amazing what these guys can and will do.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Developer support?!!! We have all the good candy in here.. From CM, PA to Omni to PAC with good mathching kernels also. Hell if u go to the AT&T section you can use all the ROMs there but with a 975 kernel..
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Should I buy the LG G3?

Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me

I would say go for it. The generation jump alone is worth it, plus if you can get it for a good price then you should take the opportunity.

Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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nchc said:
Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.

patalao said:
Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.
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In specifications, yes there is a big difference. However, in my experience of how i use a phone those specs dont convert to a great difference in daily use. Its kind of like buying a new car, its nice and you drive it faster to begin with. After a month or so you drive it the same as your old car and get to the same places. Your phone carrier keeps the internet at relatively the same speed too.
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That's why I said that the difference between the g3 and the G is even lower,so there's no point in comparing the 2, in your case of course.
If you don't benefit of the features of the phone then there's no point for you to spend much money on this

Adooda said:
Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me
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if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO

igli83 said:
if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO
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you are all guys right, the thing is that the knock on/off feature can be really useful to me since I use the phone a lot during meetings and the thing is I don't the LG will continue updating the LG OG anymore and the G3 can stay updated for 2-3 years ahead
but I don't know If I should wait for LG G4 or get this one that's my question
anyway thank you a lot

Trust me or not, you won't ever have 2-3 years support, maybe a year and an half, I would wait an half year or even a year and then decide to buy a new phone.

FWIW, my biggest issue with G3 is its size. Performance and functionality definitely gets improved with each generation, and there is no reason for not getting the best if you can afford it, but the the whole "bigger is better" trend is just driving me bonkers. I mean, with every new flagship from any OEM, the phones get bigger and bigger. G's size is perfect for me. G2 is marginally bigger (more if you add a case), but still manageable. That would be the largest form-factor for me to use comfortably. Everything bigger (and G3 is quite noticeably bigger) is just unreasonable for a phone, and getting close to a tablet territory. I never understood WTH a "phablet" is. There is no such thing in my book -- you can't sit between two chairs, you just have to put your a$$ on one or the other. Anyway, just my $0.02 worth...