severe overheating on Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How true can this be, just read an article that Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 overheating results in back cover damage. Anyone experiencing severe overheating on the SGTS? http://blog.gsmarena.com/case-samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-overheating-results-back-cover-damage/

I just read that too from Android Authority. They don't know if they'll be a recall issue in the coming weeks.
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It would be horrible if Samsung didn't test for this. It could have have catastrophic repercussions. To both the consumer and Samsungs reputation and wallet.

My 10.5 became slightly warm once. Looks like a bad battery to me.

I've noticed a lot of heat in my 8.4, in the top right corner on the back. It was on full brightness in blazing sun (on a 100 degree day). It got so hot it was uncomfortable to hold.

Mine gets quite warm, but not to the point of being uncomfortable to hold. Just makes my hands a bit more sweaty in this summer heat.
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simacca said:
Mine gets quite warm, but not to the point of being uncomfortable to hold. Just makes my hands a bit more sweaty in this summer heat.
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I remember the original Surface Pro. You could fry and egg on that one.
One benefit of the book cover - you don't feel the warmth.

sparhawk6 said:
I've noticed a lot of heat in my 8.4, in the top right corner on the back. It was on full brightness in blazing sun (on a 100 degree day). It got so hot it was uncomfortable to hold.
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are you being sarcastic? lol because no duh it's going to be hot as well in 100+ degree weather, at 100% brightness. my galaxy S4 did the same damn thing when i was outside in the summer taking pics; that thing would get HOT. that's just samsungs M/O.
anyway, i've been using it a lot daily and haven't noticed it heating up anymore than a usual tablet would.

mitchellvii said:
I remember the original Surface Pro. You could fry and egg on that one.
One benefit of the book cover - you don't feel the warmth.
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Not really a tablet gamer, but thought I would try asphalt 8 and see how hot it gets. It does get pretty warm across the middle of the tab although it does cool down pretty quickly afterwards. I would like to know what conditions the owner put his tab through to make the back cover warp like that. Would hate to think this could happen to me in the future.
Hurry up and make the book covers widely available over here in the UK! !
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You want to know hot? The Asus TF701 got hot as hell. You couldn't keep your fingers on it. Although it was all metal. This device didn't come nowhere close to that.

Has anyone tried any of the battery saver modes to see if the tablet runs cooler?

The price you guys have to pay for being an early adopter lol.
I'll just wait and see and then decide.
This is option to delay in investment is worth $$$, in finance, this is called ROV (Real Option Valuation). If you studied option devirative, it is similar to an American call option.

simacca said:
Not really a tablet gamer, but thought I would try asphalt 8 and see how hot it gets. It does get pretty warm across the middle of the tab although it does cool down pretty quickly afterwards. I would like to know what conditions the owner put his tab through to make the back cover warp like that. Would hate to think this could happen to me in the future.
Hurry up and make the book covers widely available over here in the UK! !
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I looked for the Book Cover for 8.4 all over the place but no luck. So I thought of one place where no one would expect to find one. Harrods. Got the bronze cover for my bronze S 8.4
Buttoning the covers onto the back of the tablet was rather scary, had to press pretty hard for the buttons to click in.
The back of the tablet must not be made of quality plastic if it warps like that

kuromusha38 said:
The price you guys have to pay for being an early adopter lol.
I'll just wait and see and then decide.
This is option to delay in investment is worth $$$, in finance, this is called ROV (Real Option Valuation). If you studied option devirative, it is similar to an American call option.
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These overheating Tab S models are about as pervasive as exploding iPhones - i.e., not very. As far as being early adopters, at the pace technology is moving pretty much every new model of anything has an early adopter flavor to it.
Waiting to buy a tablet until the technology has matured is like buying call options? I've traded call options for 15 years. Don't see the parallel. With a call option you are paying a premium to have the right to buy an underlying stock at a set value by a set future date. As time goes by the time value of that option wastes and becomes less valuable unless the intrinsic value tied to the underlying stock has increased significantly. If the underlying value of the stock does not exceed the strike price of the option by its expiration date it expires worthless. Since you are merely waiting to buy the tablet and not buying a contract to purchase at a set future price and date you have no financial risk and therefore no derivative.
Not trying to be argumentative. Just don't see the analogy

isnt this just one incident? has any other people in this community seen that though?
it would be wise to check demo units too before you buy them check if there dents like that.

avenging said:
isnt this just one incident? has any other people in this community seen that though?
it would be wise to check demo units too before you buy them check if there dents like that.
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I'm guessing it was a faulty unit. Thinking more about it, aren't these tablets and phones supposed to have some sort of temperature gauge limit built in if they get too hot?
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Could be an apple fanboy trying to ruin the reputation of our fine kit.

read the full article already. It's a model with an Exyno 5 Octa 5420. and the Russian played 3D games.
Can anyone having the Exyno model test it out?
I haven't got my Tab S, but really love to have one.
This really worries me. From the surface reflection, it looks like Tab S's back cover is a little uneven, thinner than the S5.

My previous tablet was a note 8.0. It was getting warm to the point that it was uncomfortable. Dont have that problem with te tab s 8.4, it stays a lot cooler

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read the full article already. It's a model with an Exyno 5 Octa 5420. and the Russian played 3D games.
Can anyone having the Exyno model test it out?
I haven't got my Tab S, but really love to have one.
This really worries me. From the surface reflection, it looks like Tab S's back cover is a little uneven, thinner than the S5.
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The back cover on my 10.5 is perfectly smooth and feels solid, not overly thin. There is nothing cheap feeling about this tablet. Not being an Apple sycophant, I'm not obsessed with an aluminum back. Have felt a bit of warmth on the back but nothing significant. This serious overheating seems to be an isolated incident.

I'd like to see some custom manufacturer come up with afermarket aluminum replaceable backs for tablets. That would take care of efficient heatsinking, rigidize the unit, look nice, and be rid of cheap plastic.
Part of the reason I like my Gpad so much!
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As you can see my DVP slipped out of my hand and hit the ground today. I loved the look of this phone and the fact it has a physical qwerty keyboard.
But it was a small drop and the thing shattered like crystal. I was also having signal issues, even in the middle of an open area. That and very few cracks are available for it.
So my questions are this. Should I pay for the out of warranty and get the phone replaced for 250 dollars. Should I go back to HTC and buy a whole new phone. Are there better Win7 phones than the DVP and the HD7 or are they probably the pinocle of phones right now?
HD7 has a worse screen no keyboard and the same signal issues. Better camera, though. But the DVP is a better phone in almost every other way...
Get a replacement. I'm really thinking the signal issues are software and that can be fixed in an update.
Gorilla Glass FTW right
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I have used the HD7, but went to Sprint to get the keyboard. Any warranty replacement thru most carriers/agents is a return. Sometimes good, sometimes not so. I prefer a new to returb based on my experiences. I also like the physical keyboard as it for me is easier to operate. My experience with phones is that HTC generally has a good product, and I actually prefer to use them.
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I am looking now to see if there are any vendors selling replacement screens for the DVP but I am not finding any.
I would see how much a new screen is. If it is $100 or something so then I would go that route. Fix the phone and then keep it or ebay it for $299 min and put that towards a new phone.
Dunno if you will like the HD7 anymore. Maybe the Omnia 7?
So I spoke with mobilicity and they said that because of the frequency they use (1700/2100) the best phones are the ones working with T-Mobile nothing in Canada will really work. So that means I'm ordering another DVP.
I just wish there was a way to get a working Windows explorer, I truly miss it.
Samsung Omnia 7 has Gorilla glass..
with gorilla glass don't you think is should be a little tougher??
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with gorilla glass don't you think is should be a little tougher??
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DVP has Gorilla glass too? Man I have to be carefull with my Samsung than.. I already bought that hard case which hides which phone and model it is from behind and let people keep guessing.. I dont want every other person to carry the same phone like mine .. like ignorant Iphone users..
Just a couple videos off you tube about Gorilla Glass form Corning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLXaCR6_0U0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcGieF15lO0&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTX79QU-1-U&feature=relmfu
I think Dell and I are going to have a bit of a chat on monday!
Purple11 said:
DVP has Gorilla glass too? Man I have to be carefull with my Samsung than.. I already bought that hard case which hides which phone and model it is from behind and let people keep guessing.. I dont want every other person to carry the same phone like mine .. like ignorant Iphone users..
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Gorilla glass Ian scratch resistant, not shatter resistant. I think lots of people make that incorrect assumption these days.
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True but when it landed it landed on my plastic body kit first, and if you watch the videos they do alot more than the force of me dropping it.
I would honestly ditch this DVP and get Optimus7.
It turned out to be a great phone.
slight22 said:
As you can see my DVP slipped out of my hand and hit the ground today. I loved the look of this phone and the fact it has a physical qwerty keyboard.
But it was a small drop and the thing shattered like crystal. I was also having signal issues, even in the middle of an open area. That and very few cracks are available for it.
So my questions are this. Should I pay for the out of warranty and get the phone replaced for 250 dollars. Should I go back to HTC and buy a whole new phone. Are there better Win7 phones than the DVP and the HD7 or are they probably the pinocle of phones right now?
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I suggest the Samsung Focus for $350 brand new at AT&T. It's expand to 40GB and has an AMOLED display like the DVP. It doesn't have the hardware KB, though.
slight22 said:
with gorilla glass don't you think is should be a little tougher??
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Gorilla glass is very rigid. What that means is that it may be extremely scratch resistant, but enough force fast enough (a drop) is enough to break it. Where as other screen material may be less rigid (susceptible to scratches), but has a higher elasticity point, requiring more force to break.
So it is a tradeoff. If you never drop your phone, Gorilla Glass is the way to go.
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True but when it landed it landed on my plastic body kit first, and if you watch the videos they do alot more than the force of me dropping it.
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Those videos are nice but they really are making people way too liberal with how they handle these phones. The primary use for Gorilla glass is to minimize scratches, not make the screen shatter proof or even really really shatter resistant.
Especially once you get above 3.5" these touchscreens become trivial to spiderweb on trivial drops.
Blackberries and other QWERTY devices (like eSeries) are dropped religiously but you don't see that many of them spiderwebbing, even though they don't use Corning Gorilla Glass
However, my niece scratched the screen of her e7x Nokia phone with her press-on nail while typing on the QWERTY keyboard. That's where Gorilla Glass shines.
And I would never replace a DVP with an Omnia 7. Not only is the keyboard worse (and portrait keyboards are imo better than landscape). It's just not as good a device.
MartyLK said:
I suggest the Samsung Focus for $350 brand new at AT&T. It's expand to 40GB and has an AMOLED display like the DVP. It doesn't have the hardware KB, though.
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Dell has 32GB DVPs on their website for sale, with AT&T Bands as well as T-Mobile Bands.
I would get a DVP over a Focus.
I don't think some people know just how much a good portrait QWERTY keyboard is worth You can type twice as fast on that than a landscape slider (way less reach to get to the keys, touch typing becomes trivial after you get used to the layout), and faster than on a software keyboard as well. Plus, it maximizes your screen real-estate.
$350 + how much for a 32GB SD Card that you can be sure won't fail with all your stuff on it at any random time?
So i decided I like the DVP enough that i'm going to spend another 250 to get Dell to replace it. The only downside to the whole situation now, is getting it shipped up. Last time my friend in the states ordered it for me and they shipped it to him and then to me.
By the time it got to me (including brokerage fees) it was almost 600 bucks, now with the 250 she's cost me more than a 32 gig iphone and I still haven't upgraded the memory. (kinda waiting on a 64gig Micro SD card)
Now when i talked to dell yesterday they were griping about sending it to me in Canada because their computer system wouldn't let them put my address for either my mailing or my billing address. Knowing my luck i'm going to have to get my friend to pay for it again with his american billing address. sigh...
Though I am buying one other thing with it.
I don't want the case to protect it from falling but something with a little more grip to hold on to, the smooth plastic is very slippery.

vibrant power skin [review/pictures]

hello xda, please don't mind my lack of capitalization...my shift keys are currently not functioning lol at any rate...
i purchased an official t-mobile powerskin about a week back from a some site, and i just received it this morning. although the official price marked on the box is 54.00 dollars, i managed to buy mine new for 15.00 so i am pretty happy, so i thought it was a safe gamble. i will provide my opinion of this accessory and rating based on a few different categories, and supplement my review with pictures as well.
protection [5/10]
the case itself is covered in a gel like covering, similar to many gel cases sold by t-mobile for the vibrant. although the powerskin does seem durable and is thicker than the typical gel casing, i am not too positive that the case itself will provide amazing protection if dropped from a high place such as a table. it will certainly provide some protection, but since the phone slips into the case and the case does not wrap around the phone, it seems likely that if the phone is dropped, that it will fall out of the case upon impact.
thickness [7/10]
the added thickness to the vibrant is not outstanding, it only gains about twice the thickness that it normally would have without the powerskin. in terms of width, the phone only gains about 1/4 of an inch and about an inch to its height. with this added mass, the powerskin makes the phone feel a little more bulky, but nothing significant. all in all, it feels similiar as holding an iphone4.
baterry [10/10]
the powerskin performs as advertised, effectively doubling the life of the vibrant. the back of the case has a small button below the power level indicator lights, that enables the user to turn on the powerskins charging feature when needed, or turn it off when one wishes to run off the phones built in battery.
instructions [6/10]
the instructions are nothing more than a few pictures, so they leave much to be desired, however the case itself is easy enough to figure out, and thus does not require too much explanation.
weight [5/10]
the weight added to the phone is about what it expected, a little more than a battery itself. the added weight does about double the normal weight of the phone, and thus is quite noticeable, and does take some getting use to. but all in all, its to be expected.
overall [6/10]
all in all the powerskin performs as advertised, without added too much more bulk to the phone itself. the weight added is a little downer, but you take what you get for double the battery life. protection wise, the skin will allow for minimal protection against falls and allow one to drop a phone from a high height and receive minimal damage without totally neutralizing the blow. i wish that the skin wrapped around the phone a little better sine the fit doesn't seem to be perfect, but again, i suppose you cannot have your cake and eat it too
now for some pictures --
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Nice!
I just ordered 2 of these (one for my fiance) off of Ebay for 12.99 Buy it Now, free shipping from New York. It says refurbished, but I've never had problems using refurbished electronics before, and at that price, I'll take the risk.
I'll give my feedback once I receive and use it.
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Nice!
I just ordered 2 of these (one for my fiance) off of Ebay for 12.99 Buy it Now, free shipping from New York. It says refurbished, but I've never had problems using refurbished electronics before, and at that price, I'll take the risk.
I'll give my feedback once I receive and use it.
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I'll be waiting for that feedback on that ebay purchase. I saw 12.99 used and 16.99 new, I'm wondering if its to good to be true. In the official thread it seems like there is a revised version. I guess at 13 bucks its not to much of a gamble. Let me know.
the only issue ive noticed over the week or so that ive been using the case is this...that the case likes to turn itself on when it realizes that the battery is being consumed by use...this isnt that bad, however it does not turn itself off when you standby lol which is just wasting the charge. thus i suggest getting some sort of battery monitoring widget that clearly tells you if and when the phone is plugged in, so that you can shut off the case if it happeneds to turn on. once you notice that its on, and you turn it off, it tends to stay off until the battery gets to about 70ish before deciding to recharge the phone battery.
all in all, nice if you can get it for under twenty, which isnt hard.
OK so I received the two Powerskins today. I have the same issue with it turning itself on sometimes... but all an all its definitely worth the 12.99.
It adds more bulk to the phone than I thought... but its excellent for traveling and is a huge convienience.
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You guys finally figured out about this...I posted this in June...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15052151&postcount=33
I think most of us knew about something like this for a long time. I didn't realize they were so affordable though.
Doesn't Samsung make a much nicer one for the I9000 and sell it in Europe? I think that's what a saw months ago, and it was much more expensive...
I agree, it did add more bulk than i imagined it would...but all in all, its not that much worse. although i wish it didn't turn itself on at random times, the inconvenience is outweighed by the usefulness I believe. Im a heavy user, and am running cm7 nightly build 85 with glitch kernel v12 beta and my battery consumption is immense at times, since using the powerskin, ive noticed that I can use my phone for much longer without needing to charge.
And ive known about this for awhile, but i was waiting for a good deal lol 15>54 haha
imitebewrong said:
I think most of us knew about something like this for a long time. I didn't realize they were so affordable though.
Doesn't Samsung make a much nicer one for the I9000 and sell it in Europe? I think that's what a saw months ago, and it was much more expensive...
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Yeah they do. I think it was called a powerpack?
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Yeah they do. I think it was called a powerpack?
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I believe you're right. I was debating getting.that one but the price was a good deterrent lol
So I ordered mine on Friday and got it today (Wednesday). I got one of the $12.99 used ones from ebay. So my thoughts on it are mixed, before I was using.a CS 3000mAh battery and it actually lasted me the night at work, I work a 10 hour shift and have music playing on my vibrant for around 8 of them, i'm in and out of a cooler all night and the basement of the casino (I live in Vegas) so I lose my signal constantly and my phone always searching and reconnecting (also I send dozens of texts and very heavy data/Web use), so I need extended life. Now the old extended buttery added some weight and size increase too but the power skin makes the phone feel huge. It's nice to have some protection on it though. On top of the extended battery I always used a belt case (no pocket space for my phone) but with the power skin it no longer fits. One concern I have and can't test till I get back to work is that the case sticks out over the headphone jack kinda far and i'm not sure they will plug in correctly.
Overall the power skin does it's job but i'm glad I only paid $12.99, if I paid the $54.99 box price I would have been pissed...
I'm going to try and use it for a while, but I have a feeling I'll be going back to the regular extended battery.

Help me decide,LENOVO P2 ergonomics and weight

Hi friends, need some feedback here. I am going to buy a new phone and after going through many reviews I have shortlisted Lenovo P2(India).Although there are some shortcomings, but I think the positives out weigh the negatives here. But one thing is making my decision difficult here......size and weight of the device. The reason being, right now I am using a very light weight and compact device galaxy s4 mini. So, friends please tell me is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!)and how is the overall weight distribution.
Also, please tell can we receive OTA updates once we unlock the bootloader. I hope you guys help me decide and eagerly waiting your feedbacks(any other pros n cons I should know)
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matesurano said:
Hi friends, need some feedback here. I am going to buy a new phone and after going through many reviews I have shortlisted Lenovo P2(India).Although there are some shortcomings, but I think the positives out weigh the negatives here. But one thing is making my decision difficult here......size and weight of the device. The reason being, right now I am using a very light weight and compact device galaxy s4 mini. So, friends please tell me is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!)and how is the overall weight distribution.
Also, please tell can we receive OTA updates once we unlock the bootloader. I hope you guys help me decide and eagerly waiting your feedbacks(any other pros n cons I should know)
Thanks for reading.
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The weight is normal for such battery. It's quite big but you get used to it. As far as OTA I don't think you get with unlocked bootloader but im not sure
chtsarts said:
The weight is normal for such battery. It's quite big but you get used to it. As far as OTA I don't think you get with unlocked bootloader but im not sure
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Thanks. I guess the size is somewhat similar to redmi note3!!
Feedbacks from other users will be appreciated.
matesurano said:
is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!).
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You must take it in your hand and test. Your comfort depends from the size of your hand.
My previous phone was Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 79 mm width generally great phone but I could not live with it because one hand was not enough in some cases.. So I switched to Lenovo P1 and Lenovo P2 consequently. 75 mm width. Only 4 mm difference but it made a great matter for me personally
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You must take it in your hand and test. Your comfort depends from the size of your hand.
My previous phone was Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 79 mm width generally great phone but I could not live with it because one hand was not enough in some cases.. So I switched to Lenovo P1 and Lenovo P2 consequently. 75 mm width. Only 4 mm difference but it made a great matter for me personally
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Thanks. The problem is its online only in our country and not available in local stores. So can't check out before purchase. Btw, I have small hands for a guy.
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The problem is its online only in our country and not available in local stores. So can't check out before purchase. .
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Go to your local cellphone store and find any phone with 75-76 mm width. Surely you will find something. So you will get some idea.
P2 is well balanced right in the center.
My advice: check if you can reach the left side of the screen with your thumb not loosing grip of the phone - if you are right handed .
If not: rater go for Xiaomi Redmi 5" family phones. My wife and daughter got them and they are really satisfied. Their battery life is quite good compared to P2
I don't find the phone heavy and I know what Redmi Note 3 Pro feels in the hand. Honestly Lenovo P2 feels and looks much more premuim than most or even all the phones in it's price segment. I love this phone. Nougat is coming, many custom roms, fabulous screen and battery, snappy performance, all is right on spot.
Hi have compared RedmiNote3 and RedmiNote4 with P2, Feel in hand is same..
due to its metalic body, P2 is very slippery, hence i had to apply a SKIN for it.. i am using P2 with a SKIN on Back, and plastic screenGaurd on front
5.5 factor is onething which gives me cramps .. i had to stretch my fingers without letting phone fall from my hand Though using gestures and placing app icons reachable would solve this
with this huge battery, the weight is OK, not too heavy, we get used to it in a week ,
Weight :: an Iphone7 with leather case = redminote 3/4 with some kind of silicone case = our P2 with light Skin on it
This is my experience
but i am sure you can get used to it, unless you have small hands ..
all the best
P2 has micro screen feature
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Thanks everyone for your feedbacks . Most probably I would be placing an order today cause a discount of Rs.1000 is there only for today. Btw, somebody in the forum talked about his phone charging at a very slow rate, do you guys face the same problem!?
matesurano said:
Btw, somebody in the forum talked about his phone charging at a very slow rate, do you guys face the same problem!?
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Seems he is the one and only
i also face the same thing, but i am definite its temperature difference causing the charging at slower rates, its summer here..
answering my own question. lol...
Just a feed back so that it helps somebody like me. You guys were right. Coming from a very small device like galaxy s4 mini i was very worried about p2. Not only about its dimensions but the weight also. But since getting the p2 (got it on 8th April) and using it i can say that it doesn't feel bulky or dense. Though technically its much heavier than my previous device, but the weight distribution is done very well. And the good thing is when you get such a battery life, u forget about those things. This phone is not at all popular in the mass market. And i think it is very cheap also(price wise). And the reason being lack of ads, marketing and promotions from lenovo side. Lenovo can make it a second oneplus 3/3t(read dev friendly), they just need to release proper sources. No doubt the stock software is good. But we need a killer of the "flagship killer" at half the price. And I think this phone HAS the potential.
..........Just my opinion. Feel free to share yours.
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Just a feed back so that it helps somebody like me. You guys were right. Coming from a very small device like galaxy s4 mini i was very worried about p2. Not only about its dimensions but the weight also. But since getting the p2 (got it on 8th April) and using it i can say that it doesn't feel bulky or dense. Though technically its much heavier than my previous device, but the weight distribution is done very well. And the good thing is when you get such a battery life, u forget about those things. This phone is not at all popular in the mass market. And i think it is very cheap also(price wise). And the reason being lack of ads, marketing and promotions from lenovo side. Lenovo can make it a second oneplus 3/3t(read dev friendly), they just need to release proper sources. No doubt the stock software is good. But we need a killer of the "flagship killer" at half the price. And I think this phone HAS the potential.
..........Just my opinion. Feel free to share yours.
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I've bought this phone two days ago, coming from s3 neo I can say that you're right, this phone is simply amazing and it feels totally right

Have a Chance at Getting an S. Need Help Deciding.

Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.
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Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.
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I'm thinking it better be pretty cheap, like about 100.00 or less. It might cost about 60.00 or so to have a shop replace the battery. They can be had on ebay for <20.00 and there are videos on youtube to show you haow to open it and change the battery. It is pretty much EOL for this model...don't think that that's official but it's got to be very close. Keep that in mind.
But...I'm also wondering if these chargers really do damage the battery being on 24/7. Don't they have protection for over charging and they seem to taper the charge rate as the battery gets closer to 100%. I know I've ruined several laptop batteries by leaving them in and on the charger. Aren't these batteries of a different technology?
Buy it cheap, do a full reset and run it and see how it does for a week..
Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?
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Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?
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All things equal, I personaly would probably go with the one with the 1" crack. That's according to how prevalent the burn-in is. The burn-in more likely effects a larger portion of the screen.
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Hmm, one last quick question, the screen burn ones are listed at 10.1 inch. Is there a 10.1 inch Tab S or did they just mislabel it? Don't wanna end up with a tablet that isn't even the one I want.
I would rather go with the cracked screen, but I messaged them to see if it works, and they responded with it seems to, which isn't that clear. I asked for clarification and they haven't responded yet.
there is tab A 10.1 tab S is 10.5inch
Ignored the two I spoke of and jumped on another that the best one availible on the site. Wasn't sure I'd get it as it was bidding and not buy now, and I've never won anything in my life. But I just did it ten minutes ago, cost 240 but I got it.
Oh and it's not just the tablet. It also comes in box, with the charger, usb cable, manual, a samsung smart cover case. And most important of all, an official Samsung Tab S Keyboard attachment, which considering I'm an author, or want to be one, it'll come in real handy.
Here's a pic of my spoils of war.
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Oh, and unlike the other two I'd looked at, this one is 32gb's not 16.
I like success stories! Congrats, hope it works well for you! Looks nice and a decent deal I think.
BTW, I'm not sure...but I think BestBuy was the only one, or one of few, places that sold 32GB versions.
Thank you! It was a real close one. I had bid 250 which didn't change or the final six hours, but I couldn't help but feel a little gittery, been watching all this time, no way was I losing this. So in the last minute, I upped my max bid to 275, and when the auction ended it turned out someone had bid 256, but because of my raise I won for 260. It's just crazy to think how if I hadn't raised it then I would of lost.
And 32GB being rare makes alot of sense. There are very few on ebay, and the cheapest at the time was 269. And all it came with was a generic usb cable, not even the official samsung usb cable.
Wish I could tell everyone how my new tablet is, but the stupid thing isn't here yet. Spent 17 dollars on Priority Mail shipping and it's only moved one state over from where it started in the past 6 days. Priority mail my ass.

General Just How Awesome Is This Thing? (First Impressions)

I've been modding phones since the OG Razr days, and even though I don't do a whole lot anymore, I still consider phones a hobby. I was going to wait for the Fold5 or the Google Fold, but after doing a buttload of research (my normal M.O.), I decided that the Fold4 was ready for prime time. Throw in the fantastic trade-in deals and it was hard to say, no. As I told my wife, I haven't been this excited about a phone in a long time. I have to say, I'm impressed. Haven't had it quite twenty-four hours yet, but it's blowing me away. Obviously, the Samsung screens look beautiful. Sure, the outer screen is narrow, but not unusable. Especially if you swipe type. The inner screen? Well, that's what it's all about, isn't it? It's gorgeous, I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake. I plan on reading more, and using it for GPS/Waze in the car is freakin' awesome! I'm really loving it. My only complaint, so far, is the sideways scrolling in the app drawer. Come on, Samsung! Continuous perpendicular scrolling is much more convenient. Thoughts? How do you folks like yours? Tell us what you like and dislike.
Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.
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Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.
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Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.
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Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.
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you do have HEX installer for Samsung, but atm it does not work on Fold4.
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The fold for is such an impressive phone. I'm sorry that I waited this long to dive into the fold arena. I use the flip 3 and flip 4 but got rid of those phones and this one takes the cake. I don't think I can ever go back to a regular slab phone again.
coming from a note 9, i don't think i'll be able to go back to a slab phone. i've been holding off buying anything and for the longest time my note 9 was my daily driver. if i wanted to upgrade it, it would be something different. i was almost tempted to get the fold 3 but opted to wait until the fold 4 came out. the outer screen being wider than the fold 3 (ok, just a little bit) and the cameras were the clinchers. my wife got me the fold 4 for father's day after she saw me reading/browsing and making numerous trips to jb hifi to inspect the phone on display. the spen is fantastic and the only thing i lost from the note 9's pen is the camera bt remote and the sound it makes when i take out the pen (my son asked me to change the remove and insert to sounds of a light saber). took me a day or so of fiddling around and setting it up to the way i want it to be. it's now the same layout as my note 9 which suits me. i'm still using nova launcher with a klwp preset for the inner screen. outer screen is using just a static, black wallpaper. goodlock has proven to be very useful as the alternative to one ui's taskbar and it's provided me with an easy power off and screenshot buttons. the only shortcoming i've seen so far is sometimes android auto fails to connect with the phone. i know that an update is on the way to fix this but at the moment and easy work around is to clear up the cache from google playstore. other than that, the inner screen real estate is fantastic for browsing, reading books, vids, and all.
Running x2 versions of Cyberpunk on one device whilst also being able to download and extract saved games files from Stadia (try doing that on a system without an oen file management setup).
This thing isn't a phone, its a computer that fits my pocket!!
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Me: Verizon will give me all but $99 back for my Pixel 6 Pro toward a Fold4. I'm going to order one.
Wife: You're getting a new phone? You haven't had that one a year yet.
Guess who's Fold4 is being delivered today. She had her 6 Pro for a shorter time than I had mine.
I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.
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I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.
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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?
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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?
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I'm with you. Give me the water resistance. The crease is a non-issue for me. I really only notice it every once in a while.
Is prefer the lesser crease. I don't tend to swim with my phone & both the Oppo Find N and Vivo X Fold both work fine as long as I don't dunk them in water. The lesser crease helps if writing on the screen with a pen which I do a lot...
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I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake.
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For real! me too.

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