[Q] Does Root + Debloat Resolve Performance Issues? - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 from Amazon and I'm already having issues with it
I play Simpsons Tapped Out and this game ran without any lag on my 2012 Nexus 7. However, when I load up the game on the Galaxy Tab S 8.4, I am having major lag while trying to pan around the town and even while trying to tap the buildings to collect money. I imagine Tapped Out is an incredibly casual and lightweight game(resource wise), so it makes me worried about how 'real' games will perform on the device.
My question is, if I root and debloat the tablet, will this improve performance on the tablet? Or is this the kind of performance that I can expect from the Exynos tablets?
I found this thread, and I was going to follow those instructions to debloat it with titanium backup(I assume I can use that to debloat it). Has anyone tried this and noticed an increase in performance?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can help

As a follow up. I just went through and rooted the tablet, froze all that bloat and it's still performing like garbage in Simpsons Tapped Out. How is this possible that the Exynos chip isn't as good as a 2 year old tablet? Is it the QHD display? Is it TouchWiz that's causing it?
Out of all the reviews I looked at, none talked about this type of lag. This Simpsons game can't be that graphic intensive. Why is it stuttering so badly when I pan around the town?

Enddo said:
As a follow up. I just went through and rooted the tablet, froze all that bloat and it's still performing like garbage in Simpsons Tapped Out. How is this possible that the Exynos chip isn't as good as a 2 year old tablet? Is it the QHD display? Is it TouchWiz that's causing it?
Out of all the reviews I looked at, none talked about this type of lag. This Simpsons game can't be that graphic intensive. Why is it stuttering so badly when I pan around the town?
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May just be that that game is confused by the Exynos 8 core cpu. The device clearly has the power to run a simple game like that. In short, I think it may be the game and not the tablet.
One other idea. Try running Nova Launcher. But other users have had the same issue as you with that particular game.

mitchellvii said:
May just be that that game is confused by the Exynos 8 core cpu. The device clearly has the power to run a simple game like that. In short, I think it may be the game and not the tablet.
One other idea. Try running Nova Launcher. But other users have had the same issue as you with that particular game.
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That is really sad to hear. I can't get Family Guy working properly on the tablet and now this Besides watching content when I'm in bed, this is all I use the tablet for. It's making it really hard to format my 2012 Nexus 7 so I can give it to my father.
I'm curious if it's the CPU or the GPU that the game is having an issue with. I have had my eye on this forum lately and am getting excited that the CyanogenMod ROM might be the solution to my issue with these casual games. Positive thoughts :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your input. I will say that it handles my 1080p content from my Drobo with BS Player flawlessly. So at least there's something

Enddo said:
That is really sad to hear. I can't get Family Guy working properly on the tablet and now this Besides watching content when I'm in bed, this is all I use the tablet for. It's making it really hard to format my 2012 Nexus 7 so I can give it to my father.
I'm curious if it's the CPU or the GPU that the game is having an issue with. I have had my eye on this forum lately and am getting excited that the CyanogenMod ROM might be the solution to my issue with these casual games. Positive thoughts :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your input. I will say that it handles my 1080p content from my Drobo with BS Player flawlessly. So at least there's something
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I've loaded up a few games under my current cm ROM and they have all played flawlessly. Though I haven't tried the games you mentioned, and I'm married a month away from having a baby so I'm a bit too broke to buy something I'm not going to play.
Tonight there should be a ROM with sound working if you want to give it a go.

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I've loaded up a few games under my current cm ROM and they have all played flawlessly. Though I haven't tried the games you mentioned, and I'm married a month away from having a baby so I'm a bit too broke to buy something I'm not going to play.
Tonight there should be a ROM with sound working if you want to give it a go.
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Both Simpsons Tapped Out and Family Guy Quest for Stuff are free to play games.
I have been keeping an eye on your CyanogenMod thread. I have never used it for more than a day on my Nexus 5 before, but I'm excited to try it out on my Tab S 8.4

Clash of clans works great! Try it. It's crazy addicting

I installed Simpsons on my S 8.4, it seems to be running smooth for me. But I only started the game and my city is pretty basic at the moment, maybe performance issues start with a larger city ?

ukael said:
I installed Simpsons on my S 8.4, it seems to be running smooth for me. But I only started the game and my city is pretty basic at the moment, maybe performance issues start with a larger city ?
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I wouldn't say I have a huge city, I'm only level 17. Nothing like my level 40 city in Family Guy. But I have a dozen or so characters unlocked in Simpsons. I can log out of my account and play as a guest I think to test on a starter city.
well, it wont' connect to the server now :/ but I will test it when I can

There have been reports of issues with this game on the other galaxy tablet forums as well. Since this tablet is fully capable of running even more complex games I would focus on the software as the issue. I'm not sure if these issues have been relayed to the developer but that would a great start to a resolution.
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Back to the initial topic: Debloating can eliminate some of the background services that consume processing power. But it would surprise me if this would result in any relevant speedup (on an Octacore).
Other than that, probably the color adaption+enhancement thing does cost some performance (and battery).
And Mali T628 drivers might not be optimized.

Enddo said:
I wouldn't say I have a huge city, I'm only level 17. Nothing like my level 40 city in Family Guy. But I have a dozen or so characters unlocked in Simpsons. I can log out of my account and play as a guest I think to test on a starter city.
well, it wont' connect to the server now :/ but I will test it when I can
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Just to let you know it's not your tab. Tapped out doesn't work properly with exynos. It's the same note 10.1 2014 ed and tab so. It's a software issue

reubenskelly1992 said:
Just to let you know it's not your tab. Tapped out doesn't work properly with exynos. It's the same note 10.1 2014 ed and tab so. It's a software issue
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thanks for all the help everyone :good:

Just FYI... The Simpsons Tapped Out also performed horribly on my Nexus 10. I think it is the app. It was never optimized for some reason
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kgeissler said:
Just FYI... The Simpsons Tapped Out also performed horribly on my Nexus 10. I think it is the app. It was never optimized for some reason
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It plays perfectly fine on my 2012 Nexus 7. There has been a swarm of lag complaints about it on blogs dedicated to the game. So maybe it's on their end

We now have some excellent rom's in development which should improve your experience.

I just tried the Simpson and couldn't try to replicate the lag problem. Mind runs very smooth.

NixxonExxo said:
I just tried the Simpson and couldn't try to replicate the lag problem. Mind runs very smooth.
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thanks for testing
i loaded a new game and it ran ok until I got about 3 or 4 people on the screen. i see different lag spots. one happens when it first loads people's animations. so even if i scroll away, when i come back it seems to load those animations again. another lag spot i see is when i try to tap on a building to activate the money or finish the person's task. when the money bounces out of the building, i see lag spikes here. they don't go completely away after i collect the money, but shortly after
the family guy from the amazon store plays fine and doesn't have this lag. i also read on some dedicated simpsons tapped out blogs that EA is aware of a lag issue. however, im not entirely sure if i am getting the same lag they are confirming. we will see though.

Enddo said:
thanks for testing
i loaded a new game and it ran ok until I got about 3 or 4 people on the screen. i see different lag spots. one happens when it first loads people's animations. so even if i scroll away, when i come back it seems to load those animations again. another lag spot i see is when i try to tap on a building to activate the money or finish the person's task. when the money bounces out of the building, i see lag spikes here. they don't go completely away after i collect the money, but shortly after
the family guy from the amazon store plays fine and doesn't have this lag. i also read on some dedicated simpsons tapped out blogs that EA is aware of a lag issue. however, im not entirely sure if i am getting the same lag they are confirming. we will see though.
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Out of morbid curiosity, have you tried my cm port?

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Games on the Galaxy Nexus [VIDEO]

It handles quite good and the phone didn't get that hot.
Hah.. It's not about me it's about you and showing you these games.
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looks smooth - well impressed
now get a list of the best games and apps together
really really good
All I'm worried about is that the next gen games won't work well with the Galaxy Nexus. These games look great, but with Apple and other companies (e.g Samsung) pushing mobile gaming, and the new mobile GPU's that are coming out, ours is already obsoleted and probably won't be good enough to play a lot of games in the future
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mohitrocks said:
All I'm worried about is that the next gen games won't work well with the Galaxy Nexus. These games look great, but with Apple and other companies (e.g Samsung) pushing mobile gaming, and the new mobile GPU's that are coming out, ours is already obsoleted and probably won't be good enough to play a lot of games in the future
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From what I've seen, gaming on the "higher end" phones simply just add useless eye candy and don't effect overall game play at all. I love eye candy, don't get me wrong, but I don't fear that we'll be left out in the cold.
With Quad-Core not even out yet, I don't think we'll be seeing anything that requires a "Quad-Core or higher" for a long time.
I also just noticed how the software buttons rotate depending on orientation. Life's simple joy!
Forgive me for not being so knowledgeable on technology, but I would be mistaken in thinking that even if Quad-Core is released, most phones won't even be able to utilise it properly for a good year or two? And by the time they are put to good use, all our Galaxy Nexus contracts will be up and we'll be eligible for an upgrade and we'll be hopping on the newest Nexus?
So quad-core doesn't even matter for a while even if they are being released next year?
Back on topic the phone looks insanely smooth, even when you had all them games open it was silky! I'm loving it a lot, getting it tomorrow
could you test the kairosoft games? like game dev story and the others?
on honeycomb if you used mulittouch zooming all their apps crashed. kinda worried it may be the same with the GNex.
The screen is good but until the games are updated 'proper' we will not know how good performance can really be.
The screen is really good.
I read on another thread that Gameloft games will not work on the Nexus, is that true?
Edit: Nevermind, I just saw the video and he plays 9mm
momagic said:
The screen is good but until the games are updated 'proper' we will not know how good performance can really be.
The screen is really good.
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Exactly my thoughts. For example on mine Plants v. Zombies looks great and works great for a few minutes, then freezes when under heavy load (i.e. "Final Wave" pushes). It can't be the GPU or memory issues because other (just as graphically heavy- if not more so) games (like Tiki Golf 2) are perfect.
I just want to clarify how good that first game is?
Check out the Verge's Transformer Prime review http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2601558/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-review
They play the game and attach it to a 52" HD screen!

Asphalt 7 released

Finaly the guys at gameloft released the Asphalt 7,i've allready bought it (1 Dollar),but i don't know why the tilting doesn't work,i mean,i tilt my phone but the car doesn't steer,the only way i can play is with the buttons on the touchscreen.Any ideea?Anybody had this problem?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftA7HM
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which part is warez? stop getting trigger happy, op asked a legitimate question. op does the tilt work in other games? if yes might be an early bug. I read reviews and they not good tho.
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Yeah accelerometer control is terrible. Graphics is good though.
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Diamondback said:
Please don't talk about warez on XDA!
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And,can you tell me what part of this is considered warez?This is a Google Play Store link that i've provided and specificaly sayd that i've bought the game,read before you write.
Se23 said:
which part is warez? stop getting trigger happy, op asked a legitimate question. op does the tilt work in other games? if yes might be an early bug. I read reviews and they not good tho.
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Yeah,the tilting works on other games,i think it's a bug,hoping that the guys at gameloft will repair this,maybe get out a patch soon.In the meanwhille,i've allready finished 6 championships and the game is great,the graphics are good,the thing that bugs me about the game are the "post score" or different commercials that are always shown,but overall it's a great game .
Posted some screenshots bellow
Thanks mates..
Downloading.. 1.3 gB. It must be a good game.
P.s. Can I play it with a bt keyboard?
Don't know honestly,but i don't see why it would't work.
1.3gb data??damn could it better to have external sd support for this phone
Diamondback said:
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I agree, thats a bit out of order jumping in like that. And a Mod!
rashid.fairus said:
1.3gb data??damn could it better to have external sd support for this phone
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Yeah,if you download 10 games like this one you can kiss bye bye you'r whole storage,didn't understand why HTC didn't offer a microSD support except the internal support.
Reached championship 8
jeyml said:
Yeah,if you download 10 games like this one you can kiss bye bye you'r whole storage,didn't understand why HTC didn't offer a microSD support except the internal support.
Reached championship 8
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The framerate makes it unplayable for me at stock, it's just too much of a distraction.
I'm waiting on a gameloft update. (sigh)
However, with faux and game booster app it plays pretty good with a decent framerate , but still annoys me that it's still not the framerate it should be & not what iOS users get.
Stock users - I'd say not to bother yet, as the framerate is choppy hell.
Aagghhh
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For me tilting works in driving. But I don't like the way, difficult to play.
Actually the game looks far better on my new ipad (graphics)
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chrisjcks said:
The framerate makes it unplayable for me at stock, it's just too much of a distraction.
I'm waiting on a gameloft update. (sigh)
However, with faux and game booster app it plays pretty good with a decent framerate , but still annoys me that it's still not the framerate it should be & not what iOS users get.
Stock users - I'd say not to bother yet, as the framerate is choppy hell.
Aagghhh
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I am running stock 1.29 and i don't have any problem like that,try to close some apps from task manager,i always do before i start the game.
Yeah,i don't know why but on my Ipad 3 (or new ipad,however you want to call it) seems a little bit more better the graphics,or maybe it's just me.
Diamondback said:
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I notice he's not apologised either.
The word you're looking for mate, is 'sorry'.
Such a lack of basic manners in the youth of today. I blame computer games
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damagedgoods said:
I notice he's not apologised either.
The word you're looking for mate, is 'sorry'.
Such a lack of basic manners in the youth of today. I blame computer games
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At least he sayd "Please" )
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jeyml said:
I am running stock 1.29 and i don't have any problem like that,try to close some apps from task manager,i always do before i start the game.
Yeah,i don't know why but on my Ipad 3 (or new ipad,however you want to call it) seems a little bit more better the graphics,or maybe it's just me.
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Sorry, (in the nicest way possible) .... you must be blind if you think the framerate is ok .
Go have a look at the trailer on the play store, that's how it's supposed to run.
Everyone I've spoken to has mentioned the very poor framerate, even android police the other day mentioned it to be 'definitely choppy' in the pre-review.
It's not Tegra 3 compatible, not really.
It runs at terrible framerates on both my Nexus 7 & HOX.
It may work, but we have to wait on Gameloft for the fix.
This game doesn't even run completely smooth at all on base 2.05, faux kernel and game booster app - stock 1.29 has no chance.
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Unless your using a U.S snapdragon S4 version, not sure how it runs on that HOX.
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chrisjcks said:
Sorry, (in the nicest way possible) .... you must be blind if you think the framerate is ok .
Go have a look at the trailer on the play store, that's how it's supposed to run.
Everyone I've spoken to has mentioned the very poor framerate, even android police the other day mentioned it to be 'definitely choppy' in the pre-review.
It's not Tegra 3 compatible, not really.
It runs at terrible framerates on both my Nexus 7 & HOX.
It may work, but we have to wait on Gameloft for the fix.
This game doesn't even run completely smooth at all on base 2.05, faux kernel and game booster app - stock 1.29 has no chance.
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Unless your using a U.S snapdragon S4 version, not sure how it runs on that HOX.
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Probably man,i don't realy know what to say,i will compare it tomorow with my Ipad to see how it runs,but for me it's ok,i mean,i've noticed that all consumers lately want everything to be perfect,not realising that we are running on our phones games that are larger than NFS:Underground or NFS:Underground 2 which we played a few years back on the PC or PS and we were totaly satisfied about them,even if they weren't perfect.Probably that it isn't optimized for the Tegra 3,lately Gameloft didn't perfect theyr games and haven't worked as much as they did in the past on the games.But,in theyr defence,we did pay 1$ for it,i mean,lets be serious,we can't expect great things for a buck man.
jeyml said:
Probably man,i don't realy know what to say,i will compare it tomorow with my Ipad to see how it runs,but for me it's ok,i mean,i've noticed that all consumers lately want everything to be perfect,not realising that we are running on our phones games that are larger than NFS:Underground or NFS:Underground 2 which we played a few years back on the PC or PS and we were totaly satisfied about them,even if they weren't perfect.Probably that it isn't optimized for the Tegra 3,lately Gameloft didn't perfect theyr games and haven't worked as much as they did in the past on the games.But,in theyr defence,we did pay 1$ for it,i mean,lets be serious,we can't expect great things for a buck man.
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Lol, that may be true for NFS, but the size of gameloft games are wayyyyy too big in size.
To think Torchlight is under 600mb for the PC, makes you wonder how a racing game for a phone could be 1.3gb. - ouch.
i don't think the price of an app is an excuse for poor coding - the game shouldn't have been released yet, not in its current state.
I've heard the SGS3 also has framerate issues with this game (just not and severe as most of GL games for Tegra3 devices) and that's operating on a year old GPU, so it shouldn't have optimisation issues - but even here, it does.
But, HOPEFULLY - they will release a fix soon, and not wait a month like they did for batman on Tegra 3.
Sadly, gameloft ain't like madfinger who will respond to you quickly and issue a fix quickly if it's their problem.
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chrisjcks said:
Lol, that may be true for NFS, but the size of gameloft games are wayyyyy too big in size.
To think Torchlight is under 600mb for the PC, makes you wonder how a racing game for a phone could be 1.3gb. - ouch.
i don't think the price of an app is an excuse for poor coding - the game shouldn't have been released yet, not in its current state.
I've heard the SGS3 also has framerate issues with this game (just not and severe as most of GL games for Tegra3 devices) and that's operating on a year old GPU, so it shouldn't have optimisation issues - but even here, it does.
But, HOPEFULLY - they will release a fix soon, and not wait a month like they did for batman on Tegra 3.
Sadly, gameloft ain't like madfinger who will respond to you quickly and issue a fix quickly if it's their problem.
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Yeah,unfortunaly i've sent an email to them regarding the accelerometer problems,sayd they will investigate the problem,but so far,nothing...i am not an expert programmer,i understand some codes,but i mean,how hard can an accelerometer problem be to solve it?
Luckly that i've got used with the touchscreen "virtual buttons",otherwise i wouldn't played this game.
As for the size of them,i maybe saying something stupid....but...aren't the guys at gameloft using Unity to make the graphics like the guys who made Dead Trigger?I tried like 1 or 2 years ago Unity and the graphics made with that program always use to much space.
Reached championship 9 so far .
Yeah, I think android police agreed with most of us.
Hopefully, gameloft will take note with some bad publicity & make a quick fix.
It definitely seems to be affecting all android devices.
Gameloft should definitely come with a disclaimer warning that it is optimized for iOS only.
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Graphics And Performance
Even with the above foibles, Asphalt 7 could be a good game. The deal breaker for me is the overwhelming mediocrity of the graphics. Judging from the screenshots on the Play Store page, this should be a gorgeous game. Instead, it's just average. Even then, only on some devices. On the Nexus 7 the texture resolution is absolutely terrible. Everything in the environment looks muddy. The cars aren't bad, but there is noticeable aliasing along the edges.
I also looked at things on the Galaxy Nexus, and the textures were a little better. I was still not impressed with the overall fuzziness of the roads and buildings, though. The jaggies are not as prevalent here, possibly because the screen is smaller, and I can't see them as well. For whatever reason, performance is questionable on both devices. Both will get a spot of lag from time to time, and the Nexus 7 seems to have a lower frame rate The brightness also looks too high, making the game oddly washed-out. There are a few places that I could barely see where I was going because the gentle blue track markers blended in too well with the background. Turning my device's brightness down did nothing to fix this. I could also see distant objects drawing as I rocketed along. That should not happen on any modern device.
For 1.4GB of game data, I expected stunning graphics. I really feel like some of the smaller Need For Speed games look better than this. Asphalt 7 is not ugly, but it's just not pretty like the screenshots would lead you to believe.
Conclusion
On the surface, Asphalt 7 is a fine game. The controls are solid, and there are plenty of tracks and race types. I can even deal with the in-app purchases because they don't seem exploitative. This is essentially a $7 game that you can have for $0.99, so dropping a few dollars on better cars seems alright. The learning curve is steep, but not to a fault However, the requirement that you have internet access is beyond ridiculous. Things fall apart for me when it comes to visuals and performance. I'm just disappointed in how this game runs on the Nexus 7, and it's not terribly good on the Galaxy Nexus. Lag, low frame rates, and blurry graphics are not what I expect out of 1.4GB of game data. If this game was free, I'd definitely suggest you pick it up to try. As it stands, you could spend $0.99 if you like Asphalt racing games, but there's just nothing that special here.
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[Q] Gaming

Hey guys been searching around and haven't found a post like mine so don't get mad if its already posted please. Thanks!
Anyways, is hard core gaming on the note 2 bad? I've got need for speed as well as some other games but I don't want to mess up or slow down my beautiful phone. Thanks!
PS Im not rooted
Most games will be fine. NFS, GTA, and other AAA titles will run 100% smooth.
I've found Bloons TD5 to completely turn the phone into molasses.
hannsz said:
Most games will be fine. NFS, GTA, and other AAA titles will run 100% smooth.
I've found Bloons TD5 to completely turn the phone into molasses.
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Any long term problems on the phone from playing? My old phone had some problems and a sprint rep said it was due to gaming.
islandjat said:
Any long term problems on the phone from playing? My old phone had some problems and a sprint rep said it was due to gaming.
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What types of problems? Overheating the phone, maybe?
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Note 2 should run every game smoothly right now , any lags should be the game's issue.
at the minute ive got nfs most wanted and gta vice city playing on my note 2 bith running beautifull!!! enjiy the gaming
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islandjat said:
Hey guys been searching around and haven't found a post like mine so don't get mad if its already posted please. Thanks!
Anyways, is hard core gaming on the note 2 bad? I've got need for speed as well as some other games but I don't want to mess up or slow down my beautiful phone. Thanks!
PS Im not rooted
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As someone who uses his devices for gaming extensively, I can assure you that gaming on your Note 2 would be a great experiance. I have tried almost every high end game in the market on N7100, and till now have not experianced any sort of lag or any other problems. NOVA 2,3, Shadowgun, GTA Vice City Modern Combat 2,3, NFS Most Wanted, Dead Space, Backstab, Dead Trigger, BIA2, Virtua Tennis etc and originally PC games like Max Payne and GTA 3 etc all run very smoothly. The only problem I have yet had is with MC 4, but I think it's only because of a script I am running and not the fault of the device. I have also heard that there are problems with Asphalt 7 but as I had played it a lot on my Tab 2 I am not really interested in downloading it again.
My theory is that one shouldn't hold the most powerful mobile device in the world in his hand if he has no interests in gaming By the time I am done with this device I will have had my money's worth
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As said above, all games I have played run amazing on the N2. It's a great gaming 'phablet'. I have heard Asphalt 7 and MC4 are running a tad slow, but MC4 is having this issue on other high end phones as well. I will try MC4 very soon...
the two main games ive got on my note 2 are wild blood and nfs most wanted.
with nfs most wanted, the framerates are much more playable compared to my nexus 7. however, its still note quite at 60fps. it generally depends on the amount of action, but early game, it sticks pretty close to 60fps. late game, when you start having lots of high speed cars on screen, along with police in corvettes and road blocks, i've seen it drop down to 25fps. its still far more playable compared to my nexus 7 (nexus 7 drops to around 7-15fps around some of these parts), but its still a notable drop.
that being said, i do come from a PC gaming background, and i've got my computer set up so it never drops below 60fps at max settings, which is the only reason why i notice most of the drops and stutters. for most people, it will probably still seem really slow.
as for wild blood, havent played it much, but it seems to run at a fairly low framerate (lower compared to nfs mw anyhow). still playable though.
compared to my note 1 and nexus 7 though, the note 2 is a much better device. much more oomph, a lot less stutter, a lot less lag, much more responsive overall.
Souai said:
the two main games ive got on my note 2 are wild blood and nfs most wanted.
with nfs most wanted, the framerates are much more playable compared to my nexus 7. however, its still note quite at 60fps. it generally depends on the amount of action, but early game, it sticks pretty close to 60fps. late game, when you start having lots of high speed cars on screen, along with police in corvettes and road blocks, i've seen it drop down to 25fps. its still far more playable compared to my nexus 7 (nexus 7 drops to around 7-15fps around some of these parts), but its still a notable drop.
that being said, i do come from a PC gaming background, and i've got my computer set up so it never drops below 60fps at max settings, which is the only reason why i notice most of the drops and stutters. for most people, it will probably still seem really slow.
as for wild blood, havent played it much, but it seems to run at a fairly low framerate (lower compared to nfs mw anyhow). still playable though.
compared to my note 1 and nexus 7 though, the note 2 is a much better device. much more oomph, a lot less stutter, a lot less lag, much more responsive overall.
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I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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if youre talking about picture downloads from the browser, go into the browser, settings, advanced, and change the default storage.
you can also set the camera to default storage to the memory card, but this only works for individual snaps. burst snaps will save to internal memory by default (to avoid slow memory cards slowing down the burst rate), and you'll have to move them later.
MC4 runs flawless on my device.
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islandjat said:
I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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You didn't mention the goodness of the battery life. After playing 1 hour of NFS MW and wi-fi on, I still managed to to get 7 hours screen-on time. Amazing!

[Q] Various Games Not Working ....

Anyone having issues with ....
Nova 3
Need For Speed: Most Wanted
NBA Jam
DarkMinax said:
Anyone having issues with ....
Nova 3
Need For Speed: Most Wanted
NBA Jam
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Haven't tried the others, but Most Wanted certainly works just fine. Had a hell of a time getting it to download (it all of a sudden did, after leaving it alone for a while).
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Anyone having issues with ....
Nova 3
Need For Speed: Most Wanted
NBA Jam
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Need for Speed works flawless on mine. Have not tried others.
I can get Nova Multiplayer to work fine, but not the single player. Quite annoying.
I can't get Heroes or Order and chaos or Wild Blood to work correctly. Wild Blood lacks lots of graphics and Heroes crashes on the tutorial without explanation. Anyone have some thoughts?
TomTom doesn't work, but that isn't a game. Some drawing apps don't work yet either (all from the Hello ColorPencil variety), but I'm sure they will be fixed and aren't games.
The Simpsons tapped out has so much lag that I can't play it with this tablet, yet there is no problem when I play the same game on the first note 10.1, I wish I knew what the issue is, maybe it's the 4.3 problem ?.??..
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emilv1 said:
The Simpsons tapped out has so much lag that I can't play it with this tablet, yet there is no problem when I play the same game on the first note 10.1, I wish I knew what the issue is, maybe it's the 4.3 problem ?.??..
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I found it to be very frustrating as well. Turning "power saver" off seems to have little effects as well. I'm thinking that there just isn't good support for the tablet as of yet, it's only two weeks old.
Mardavnic said:
I can't get Heroes or Order and chaos or Wild Blood to work correctly. Wild Blood lacks lots of graphics and Heroes crashes on the tutorial without explanation. Anyone have some thoughts?
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What version of the note are you using? Wifi or lte edition ( exynos or snapdragon)
Could everyone write up what version of the note you're having issues with, that way we might be able to find a patern. I.e what SoC is more stable, reliable.
Basing on similar Note 3 the Snapdragon 800 version has better app compatibility along with better performance.
mi7chy said:
Basing on similar Note 3 the Snapdragon 800 version has better app compatibility along with better performance.
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This is so frustrating. I'm pretty annoyed that I purchased an expensive tablet, and it can't run popular apps/games due to it's processor. Are there any advantages to having the 600?
zepfan221 said:
This is so frustrating. I'm pretty annoyed that I purchased an expensive tablet, and it can't run popular apps/games due to it's processor. Are there any advantages to having the 600?
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I'm assuming you meant the 800 snapdragon?
It's faster, a tad more stable ( as far as I've been able to gather ) and seems to have broader support within games/ apps / development.
In essence
Snapdragon better GPU
Exynos Better CPU
here check these out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdnj-kdAYnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOVPijsBME
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I'm assuming you meant the 800 snapdragon?
It's faster, a tad more stable ( as far as I've been able to gather ) and seems to have broader support within games/ apps / development.
In essence
Snapdragon better GPU
Exynos Better CPU
here check these out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdnj-kdAYnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOVPijsBME
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Sorry I meant the P600 which has the Exynos. I don't really see any benefit to having it. Sure it has "8" cores, but if it can't run things properly, why bother?
You guys are on drugs if you think the hardware isn't capable of running these games.
Just wait for the developers to update it won't be the end of the world.
-see most wanted and dead trigger 2 for reference, kthx.
Itchiee said:
You guys are on drugs if you think the hardware isn't capable of running these games.
Just wait for the developers to update it won't be the end of the world.
-see most wanted and dead trigger 2 for reference, kthx.
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I think it's more than capable. I'm worried about actual development more than anything. I think we'll see fewer roms/kernels, and less support for apps/games.
Yeah, we probably won't see roms or kernels thats true, i'm fine with that part as it defeats the purpose of this device.
As far as support from games it will be okay since these devices are selling fairly well (Note 10.1 & morso Note 3).
Asphalt 8 Runs like crap no high settings available
Hey guys,
Its strange to me that Dead Trigger 2, and Need 4 Speed Most Wanted look amazing and run flawless yet Asphalt 8 looks horrible, has terrible framrates, and does not allow you to enable graphics higher than low on this tablet. Hope the devs can update this game so I can enjoy.
Dedline said:
Hey guys,
Its strange to me that Dead Trigger 2, and Need 4 Speed Most Wanted look amazing and run flawless yet Asphalt 8 looks horrible, has terrible framrates, and does not allow you to enable graphics higher than low on this tablet. Hope the devs can update this game so I can enjoy.
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I haven't been getting terrible frame rates, granted it doesn't look amazing, but it's not at all bad. Have you turned power saving off?
emilv1 said:
The Simpsons tapped out has so much lag that I can't play it with this tablet, yet there is no problem when I play the same game on the first note 10.1, I wish I knew what the issue is, maybe it's the 4.3 problem ?.??..
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Sorry to dredge up an old thread but I just got the 2014 edition yesterday and I'm finding this game almost unbearable. But here's the weird part, previously I had the original Note 10.1 and it played fine, just like you say. When I got the new one I wiped the old one to give it to my wife. Now the old one lags terribly too.
This is really frustrating, but at the same time gives me some hope. It ran fine on the old one until I did the factory reset. So that tells me there might be a setting somewhere that can fix this issue.
Of course, this thread is so old you guys might have already solved the issue. If so, please post how you fixed it.
midas69 said:
Sorry to dredge up an old thread but I just got the 2014 edition yesterday and I'm finding this game almost unbearable. But here's the weird part, previously I had the original Note 10.1 and it played fine, just like you say. When I got the new one I wiped the old one to give it to my wife. Now the old one lags terribly too.
This is really frustrating, but at the same time gives me some hope. It ran fine on the old one until I did the factory reset. So that tells me there might be a setting somewhere that can fix this issue.
Of course, this thread is so old you guys might have already solved the issue. If so, please post how you fixed it.
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Still an issue. I've tried a number of things - factory reset, CleamROM, standing on my head, starting a new game, etc. Can't get decent performance out of my favourite game! This sucks!
Maybe I should try to open a support ticket with Samsung - wonder if they'd even respond.

Sky force reloaded

Hello Everyone,
Are there any of you who play Sky Force Reloaded frequently? Is it smooth or laggy? I play the crap out of it and now that there is a lot happening on the screen at any given moment it has started to drop in frames fairly badly. This game plays very well on other phones but its still not buttery smooth like the original Sky Force. So I'm thinking part of it is that the game needs some optimizing.
I play it frequently. It's smooth and responsive. Np lackin frames, only sometimes my fingers are too slow [emoji14] BTW this game difficult mode is quite insane, too much of being frustrated ://
nathasnajperowa said:
I play it frequently. It's smooth and responsive. Np lackin frames, only sometimes my fingers are too slow [emoji14] BTW this game difficult mode is quite insane, too much of being frustrated ://
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How far are you?
nathasnajperowa said:
I play it frequently. It's smooth and responsive. Np lackin frames, only sometimes my fingers are too slow [emoji14] BTW this game difficult mode is quite insane, too much of being frustrated ://
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If you dont mind can you download the original Sky Force 2014 and compare the smoothness and let me know what you think. Cause for me the original is nothing shy of buttery smooth but thats not exactly the case for reloaded. It could be the game needs optimizing, I'm not sure
Oryginal one from 2014 is indeed more smooth comparin to reloaded version. I noticed reloaded is twice as bigger data than 2014 version.
nathasnajperowa said:
Oryginal one from 2014 is indeed more smooth comparin to reloaded version. I noticed reloaded is twice as bigger data than 2014 version.
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Yup, its definitely a bigger game with more to it, which leads me to believe it needs optimizing. They also just put out a big update not long ago. Do you play any other graphics intensive games? This is probably the most intensive one I play
I have also riptide 2, warhammer, assassin's creed, oddworth, Thor, NFS, rise of God etc but they are not so immersive cause controls are not so playable on little touch screen
nathasnajperowa said:
I have also riptide 2, warhammer, assassin's creed, oddworth, Thor, NFS, rise of God etc but they are not so immersive cause controls are not so playable on little touch screen
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I agree, I tend to stray from on screen control games. I picked up this awesome controller I can easily recommend (http://www.nes30.com/)
I just played a couple racing games and those are buttery smooth. Traffic rider is fun. The battery life on this phone actually makes me want to play games now lol
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Hello Everyone,
Are there any of you who play Sky Force Reloaded frequently? Is it smooth or laggy? I play the crap out of it and now that there is a lot happening on the screen at any given moment it has started to drop in frames fairly badly :crying: This game plays very well on my note 4 but its still not buttery smooth like the original Sky Force. So I'm thinking part of it is that the game needs some optimizing.
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it seems since your last device is note 4 you tend to compare 10 with note4 always....
you do know that samsung devices are tuned for different purposes where in htc10 isn't factory tuned but instead gave the choice to users tune it the way they want to...
and believe me gpu 530 rips out 420 by so far... i believe its your feeling than an actual fact including the screen goes off lock in a second instead of half a second as your note 4 does....
there is no way note 4 can outperform htc 10 unless you are messing up something in htc10....
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