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Hey guys been searching around and haven't found a post like mine so don't get mad if its already posted please. Thanks!
Anyways, is hard core gaming on the note 2 bad? I've got need for speed as well as some other games but I don't want to mess up or slow down my beautiful phone. Thanks!
PS Im not rooted
Most games will be fine. NFS, GTA, and other AAA titles will run 100% smooth.
I've found Bloons TD5 to completely turn the phone into molasses.
hannsz said:
Most games will be fine. NFS, GTA, and other AAA titles will run 100% smooth.
I've found Bloons TD5 to completely turn the phone into molasses.
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Any long term problems on the phone from playing? My old phone had some problems and a sprint rep said it was due to gaming.
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Any long term problems on the phone from playing? My old phone had some problems and a sprint rep said it was due to gaming.
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What types of problems? Overheating the phone, maybe?
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Note 2 should run every game smoothly right now , any lags should be the game's issue.
at the minute ive got nfs most wanted and gta vice city playing on my note 2 bith running beautifull!!! enjiy the gaming
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Hey guys been searching around and haven't found a post like mine so don't get mad if its already posted please. Thanks!
Anyways, is hard core gaming on the note 2 bad? I've got need for speed as well as some other games but I don't want to mess up or slow down my beautiful phone. Thanks!
PS Im not rooted
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As someone who uses his devices for gaming extensively, I can assure you that gaming on your Note 2 would be a great experiance. I have tried almost every high end game in the market on N7100, and till now have not experianced any sort of lag or any other problems. NOVA 2,3, Shadowgun, GTA Vice City Modern Combat 2,3, NFS Most Wanted, Dead Space, Backstab, Dead Trigger, BIA2, Virtua Tennis etc and originally PC games like Max Payne and GTA 3 etc all run very smoothly. The only problem I have yet had is with MC 4, but I think it's only because of a script I am running and not the fault of the device. I have also heard that there are problems with Asphalt 7 but as I had played it a lot on my Tab 2 I am not really interested in downloading it again.
My theory is that one shouldn't hold the most powerful mobile device in the world in his hand if he has no interests in gaming By the time I am done with this device I will have had my money's worth
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As said above, all games I have played run amazing on the N2. It's a great gaming 'phablet'. I have heard Asphalt 7 and MC4 are running a tad slow, but MC4 is having this issue on other high end phones as well. I will try MC4 very soon...
the two main games ive got on my note 2 are wild blood and nfs most wanted.
with nfs most wanted, the framerates are much more playable compared to my nexus 7. however, its still note quite at 60fps. it generally depends on the amount of action, but early game, it sticks pretty close to 60fps. late game, when you start having lots of high speed cars on screen, along with police in corvettes and road blocks, i've seen it drop down to 25fps. its still far more playable compared to my nexus 7 (nexus 7 drops to around 7-15fps around some of these parts), but its still a notable drop.
that being said, i do come from a PC gaming background, and i've got my computer set up so it never drops below 60fps at max settings, which is the only reason why i notice most of the drops and stutters. for most people, it will probably still seem really slow.
as for wild blood, havent played it much, but it seems to run at a fairly low framerate (lower compared to nfs mw anyhow). still playable though.
compared to my note 1 and nexus 7 though, the note 2 is a much better device. much more oomph, a lot less stutter, a lot less lag, much more responsive overall.
Souai said:
the two main games ive got on my note 2 are wild blood and nfs most wanted.
with nfs most wanted, the framerates are much more playable compared to my nexus 7. however, its still note quite at 60fps. it generally depends on the amount of action, but early game, it sticks pretty close to 60fps. late game, when you start having lots of high speed cars on screen, along with police in corvettes and road blocks, i've seen it drop down to 25fps. its still far more playable compared to my nexus 7 (nexus 7 drops to around 7-15fps around some of these parts), but its still a notable drop.
that being said, i do come from a PC gaming background, and i've got my computer set up so it never drops below 60fps at max settings, which is the only reason why i notice most of the drops and stutters. for most people, it will probably still seem really slow.
as for wild blood, havent played it much, but it seems to run at a fairly low framerate (lower compared to nfs mw anyhow). still playable though.
compared to my note 1 and nexus 7 though, the note 2 is a much better device. much more oomph, a lot less stutter, a lot less lag, much more responsive overall.
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I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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if youre talking about picture downloads from the browser, go into the browser, settings, advanced, and change the default storage.
you can also set the camera to default storage to the memory card, but this only works for individual snaps. burst snaps will save to internal memory by default (to avoid slow memory cards slowing down the burst rate), and you'll have to move them later.
MC4 runs flawless on my device.
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I have nfs just to test out this phone and honestly I was totally expecting it to run 100% smoothly considering the ranting and raving of this device, not to mention the heavy dollar amount for a 16 gig phone. I am thoroughly impressed with it. Seems to me that gameloft is the only company making games that can really test the phone so they can expect some profit now that they have something that works with their games. Only thing I don't like about the phone is not the largeness but rather the fact that everything downloaded goes straight to the internal memory, including picture downloads etc. So I have to go to the computer and manually transport it to the sd card but that's a small drawback for me.
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You didn't mention the goodness of the battery life. After playing 1 hour of NFS MW and wi-fi on, I still managed to to get 7 hours screen-on time. Amazing!
I just got my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 from Amazon and I'm already having issues with it
I play Simpsons Tapped Out and this game ran without any lag on my 2012 Nexus 7. However, when I load up the game on the Galaxy Tab S 8.4, I am having major lag while trying to pan around the town and even while trying to tap the buildings to collect money. I imagine Tapped Out is an incredibly casual and lightweight game(resource wise), so it makes me worried about how 'real' games will perform on the device.
My question is, if I root and debloat the tablet, will this improve performance on the tablet? Or is this the kind of performance that I can expect from the Exynos tablets?
I found this thread, and I was going to follow those instructions to debloat it with titanium backup(I assume I can use that to debloat it). Has anyone tried this and noticed an increase in performance?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can help
As a follow up. I just went through and rooted the tablet, froze all that bloat and it's still performing like garbage in Simpsons Tapped Out. How is this possible that the Exynos chip isn't as good as a 2 year old tablet? Is it the QHD display? Is it TouchWiz that's causing it?
Out of all the reviews I looked at, none talked about this type of lag. This Simpsons game can't be that graphic intensive. Why is it stuttering so badly when I pan around the town?
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As a follow up. I just went through and rooted the tablet, froze all that bloat and it's still performing like garbage in Simpsons Tapped Out. How is this possible that the Exynos chip isn't as good as a 2 year old tablet? Is it the QHD display? Is it TouchWiz that's causing it?
Out of all the reviews I looked at, none talked about this type of lag. This Simpsons game can't be that graphic intensive. Why is it stuttering so badly when I pan around the town?
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May just be that that game is confused by the Exynos 8 core cpu. The device clearly has the power to run a simple game like that. In short, I think it may be the game and not the tablet.
One other idea. Try running Nova Launcher. But other users have had the same issue as you with that particular game.
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May just be that that game is confused by the Exynos 8 core cpu. The device clearly has the power to run a simple game like that. In short, I think it may be the game and not the tablet.
One other idea. Try running Nova Launcher. But other users have had the same issue as you with that particular game.
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That is really sad to hear. I can't get Family Guy working properly on the tablet and now this Besides watching content when I'm in bed, this is all I use the tablet for. It's making it really hard to format my 2012 Nexus 7 so I can give it to my father.
I'm curious if it's the CPU or the GPU that the game is having an issue with. I have had my eye on this forum lately and am getting excited that the CyanogenMod ROM might be the solution to my issue with these casual games. Positive thoughts :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your input. I will say that it handles my 1080p content from my Drobo with BS Player flawlessly. So at least there's something
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That is really sad to hear. I can't get Family Guy working properly on the tablet and now this Besides watching content when I'm in bed, this is all I use the tablet for. It's making it really hard to format my 2012 Nexus 7 so I can give it to my father.
I'm curious if it's the CPU or the GPU that the game is having an issue with. I have had my eye on this forum lately and am getting excited that the CyanogenMod ROM might be the solution to my issue with these casual games. Positive thoughts :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your input. I will say that it handles my 1080p content from my Drobo with BS Player flawlessly. So at least there's something
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I've loaded up a few games under my current cm ROM and they have all played flawlessly. Though I haven't tried the games you mentioned, and I'm married a month away from having a baby so I'm a bit too broke to buy something I'm not going to play.
Tonight there should be a ROM with sound working if you want to give it a go.
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I've loaded up a few games under my current cm ROM and they have all played flawlessly. Though I haven't tried the games you mentioned, and I'm married a month away from having a baby so I'm a bit too broke to buy something I'm not going to play.
Tonight there should be a ROM with sound working if you want to give it a go.
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Both Simpsons Tapped Out and Family Guy Quest for Stuff are free to play games.
I have been keeping an eye on your CyanogenMod thread. I have never used it for more than a day on my Nexus 5 before, but I'm excited to try it out on my Tab S 8.4
Clash of clans works great! Try it. It's crazy addicting
I installed Simpsons on my S 8.4, it seems to be running smooth for me. But I only started the game and my city is pretty basic at the moment, maybe performance issues start with a larger city ?
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I installed Simpsons on my S 8.4, it seems to be running smooth for me. But I only started the game and my city is pretty basic at the moment, maybe performance issues start with a larger city ?
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I wouldn't say I have a huge city, I'm only level 17. Nothing like my level 40 city in Family Guy. But I have a dozen or so characters unlocked in Simpsons. I can log out of my account and play as a guest I think to test on a starter city.
well, it wont' connect to the server now :/ but I will test it when I can
There have been reports of issues with this game on the other galaxy tablet forums as well. Since this tablet is fully capable of running even more complex games I would focus on the software as the issue. I'm not sure if these issues have been relayed to the developer but that would a great start to a resolution.
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Back to the initial topic: Debloating can eliminate some of the background services that consume processing power. But it would surprise me if this would result in any relevant speedup (on an Octacore).
Other than that, probably the color adaption+enhancement thing does cost some performance (and battery).
And Mali T628 drivers might not be optimized.
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I wouldn't say I have a huge city, I'm only level 17. Nothing like my level 40 city in Family Guy. But I have a dozen or so characters unlocked in Simpsons. I can log out of my account and play as a guest I think to test on a starter city.
well, it wont' connect to the server now :/ but I will test it when I can
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Just to let you know it's not your tab. Tapped out doesn't work properly with exynos. It's the same note 10.1 2014 ed and tab so. It's a software issue
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Just to let you know it's not your tab. Tapped out doesn't work properly with exynos. It's the same note 10.1 2014 ed and tab so. It's a software issue
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thanks for all the help everyone :good:
Just FYI... The Simpsons Tapped Out also performed horribly on my Nexus 10. I think it is the app. It was never optimized for some reason
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Just FYI... The Simpsons Tapped Out also performed horribly on my Nexus 10. I think it is the app. It was never optimized for some reason
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It plays perfectly fine on my 2012 Nexus 7. There has been a swarm of lag complaints about it on blogs dedicated to the game. So maybe it's on their end
We now have some excellent rom's in development which should improve your experience.
I just tried the Simpson and couldn't try to replicate the lag problem. Mind runs very smooth.
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I just tried the Simpson and couldn't try to replicate the lag problem. Mind runs very smooth.
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thanks for testing
i loaded a new game and it ran ok until I got about 3 or 4 people on the screen. i see different lag spots. one happens when it first loads people's animations. so even if i scroll away, when i come back it seems to load those animations again. another lag spot i see is when i try to tap on a building to activate the money or finish the person's task. when the money bounces out of the building, i see lag spikes here. they don't go completely away after i collect the money, but shortly after
the family guy from the amazon store plays fine and doesn't have this lag. i also read on some dedicated simpsons tapped out blogs that EA is aware of a lag issue. however, im not entirely sure if i am getting the same lag they are confirming. we will see though.
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thanks for testing
i loaded a new game and it ran ok until I got about 3 or 4 people on the screen. i see different lag spots. one happens when it first loads people's animations. so even if i scroll away, when i come back it seems to load those animations again. another lag spot i see is when i try to tap on a building to activate the money or finish the person's task. when the money bounces out of the building, i see lag spikes here. they don't go completely away after i collect the money, but shortly after
the family guy from the amazon store plays fine and doesn't have this lag. i also read on some dedicated simpsons tapped out blogs that EA is aware of a lag issue. however, im not entirely sure if i am getting the same lag they are confirming. we will see though.
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Out of morbid curiosity, have you tried my cm port?
Has any one played this game
It seems to perform awfully on this phone
Any mods of suggestions that anyone has would be really appreciated
It performs awful on all phones. Not a well optimized game.
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It performs awful on all phones. Not a well optimized game.
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Hmm I disagree it just appears to be better optimised for some devices.
I wish devs gave more support in regards to changing resolution and settings for Android games... A little like the GTA games have attempted.
But thanks anyway
Hi I play it regularly and yes I can confirm it doesnt like oneplus phones. This game runs fast and smooth without any lags whatsoever on my S3. Whereas it reallllly lags on my oneplus 2. But I am happy with its performance on the oneplus 3. It works fine on the 3.
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Hi I play it regularly and yes I can confirm it doesnt like oneplus phones. This game runs fast and smooth without any lags whatsoever on my S3. Whereas it reallllly lags on my oneplus 2. But I am happy with its performance on the oneplus 3. It works fine on the 3.
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Yeah. Wished it ran at a higher frame rate. 30 seems like it's struggling which clearly isn't the case.
Cheers for the reply
it performs better in small phones but not on op3
So i have been using my ROGPHONE 2 (12/512) for almost 1 month now. Getting ready for Diablo Immortal to launch(been 2 years and still not launched) Played CODM, Ragnarok M, Temple Run 2, PVZ 2, NFS, Asphalt, Jurassic World and the list goes on.
And recently i bought a $200 Nintendo Switch Lite for the sake of Diablo 3 Eternal Collection and for the sake its only $200.Im a huge Diablo fanboy. And turns out "Console" is still better than "Smartphones".
My point is whats with this Gaming Phone Hype? Best benchmark bla bla bla. My ROGPHONE 2 at times stutter while playing games. Whereas my Switch Lite dont.
Yes i know its better to have 1 device which can do all rather than have multiple devices. But the differences is outrageous. How can a $200 Console do better than a $900 "Gaming" Smartphone?
*im not mentioning the games available for console vs mobile*
Dedicated gaming consoles with built in fan are very different from mobile phones with gaming features. The first one usually does better at gaming. It is supposed to. It is the only thing that it is made for with all devs focusing on just one hardware. On mobile phones however, you have hundreds of different hardwares with limited thermal envelope. I'd be very interested to see a gaming video comparison between your note 10+, rog 2 and P30 pro..
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Dedicated gaming consoles with built in fan are very different from mobile phones with gaming features. The first one usually does better at gaming. It is supposed to. It is the only thing that it is made for with all devs focusing on just one hardware. On mobile phones however, you have hundreds of different hardwares with limited thermal envelope. I'd be very interested to see a gaming video comparison between your note 10+, rog 2 and P30 pro..
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Between those 3. And lets say CODM. The best is ROGPHONE 2. Why? Because no notch. Yes i can hide the notch but the area near the notch is very unresponsive. I have made many threads about this in AC forums.
But the ROGPHONE 2 section there is dead. That's why im here xD
yes i agree with you. i dont know whats this hype is all about. my main reason why i bought this phone is the battery. and i already knew that mobile gaming sucks. all high end phone sucks at certain point when you play at high settings and its better to buy gaming PC or consoles if you are really on gaming.
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yes i agree with you. i dont know whats this hype is all about. my main reason why i bought this phone is the battery. and i already knew that mobile gaming sucks. all high end phone sucks at certain point when you play at high settings and its better to buy gaming PC or consoles if you are really on gaming.
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Thank you for not bashing me. I mean even with 1 game installed. It still wouldnt do as good as consoles. People be boasting stuff like BEST GAMING PHONE and so on but its not even gaming... I know i can buy those add ons to have buttons but its gonna cost even way more.
And i know its a smartphone. Supposed to make multiple devices become 1. But i personally have a device for every need. Like an A&K for music, PS4 for games,Mirrorless Camera for photos, Laptop for work and so on.
And not to mention the amount of cash needed to be powerful in mobile games. Pro Non Casher will always lose to Noob Casher. But on consoles its different.
And yes this phone has crazy battery life. Haha. With no games installed I could easily get 2 days of normal usage.
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Thank you for not bashing me. I mean even with 1 game installed. It still wouldnt do as good as consoles. People be boasting stuff like BEST GAMING PHONE and so on but its not even gaming... I know i can buy those add ons to have buttons but its gonna cost even way more.
And i know its a smartphone. Supposed to make multiple devices become 1. But i personally have a device for every need. Like an A&K for music, PS4 for games,Mirrorless Camera for photos, Laptop for work and so on.
And not to mention the amount of cash needed to be powerful in mobile games. Pro Non Casher will always lose to Noob Casher. But on consoles its different.
And yes this phone has crazy battery life. Haha. With no games installed I could easily get 2 days of normal usage.
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Hi guys, I can relate to everything you said and was also thinking about the switch. But as I bought this phone for 500$ it was a no brainier.
The sad state of gaming in Android is not a hardware issue but bad Android OS api implementation. This is supposedly handled in new vulkan api. But the worst problem is the crap state of content, with virtually all games adopting freemium models which kill all games. For some reason people expect to get things for free on mobile and don't want to pay for good games so companies delivered free crap which makes you pay to play. 5,6 years ago there were plenty of good premium games, now they are rare. I'm actually now checking game streaming services.
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Thank you for not bashing me. I mean even with 1 game installed. It still wouldnt do as good as consoles. People be boasting stuff like BEST GAMING PHONE and so on but its not even gaming... I know i can buy those add ons to have buttons but its gonna cost even way more.
And i know its a smartphone. Supposed to make multiple devices become 1. But i personally have a device for every need. Like an A&K for music, PS4 for games,Mirrorless Camera for photos, Laptop for work and so on.
And not to mention the amount of cash needed to be powerful in mobile games. Pro Non Casher will always lose to Noob Casher. But on consoles its different.
And yes this phone has crazy battery life. Haha. With no games installed I could easily get 2 days of normal usage.
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It's all semantics.
Let's grade all the available gaming phones. Is ROG 2 the best among them? If yes then it's obviously the best gaming phone!
Now back to your comparison of gaming phones against dedicated gaming devices and consoles.
That's an unfair and improper way of comparing them. Cos one set of devices is specialised in executing only a single task (playing games) while the other set countless tasks (calls, sms, email, photography, multimedia, data storage, web activity, gaming, navigation, health,l and a ton of other things ranging from controlling your smart home & CCTVs to being used for penetration testing etc).
Maybe that's one of the key factors ??*
I bought the Switch Lite and tried to use it as a phone... oh wait.. its not................................
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I bought the Switch Lite and tried to use it as a phone... oh wait.. its not................................
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The Nintendo Switch Lite wasnt advertised as a phone. Whereas the ROGPHONE 2 was advertised as the best "GAMING" phone. Owh wait, did i get the ads wrong?
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The Nintendo Switch Lite wasnt advertised as a phone. Whereas the ROGPHONE 2 was advertised as the best "GAMING" phone. Owh wait, did i get the ads wrong?
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ROG 2 was advertised as the best gaming "phone", not the best gaming "device" or "handheld".
The games being laggy is the issue of Android itself and not ASUS. ASUS has literally delivered the best gaming "phone" till date. No other "phone" beats it in gaming.
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ROG 2 was advertised as the best gaming "phone", not the best gaming "device" or "handheld".
The games being laggy is the issue of Android itself and not ASUS. ASUS has literally delivered the best gaming "phone" till date. No other "phone" beats it in gaming.
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So Asus should use IOS? You dont get my point...
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It's all semantics.
Let's grade a the available gaming phones. Is ROG 2 the best among them? If yes then its obviously the best gaming phone!
Now back to your comparison of gaming phones with dedicated gaming devices and consoles.
That's an unfair and improper way of comparing them. Cos one set of devices is specialised in executing only a single task (playing games) while the other set countless tasks (calls, sms, email, photography, multimedia, data storage, web activity, gaming, navigation, health,l and a ton of other things ranging from controlling your smart home & CCTVs to being used for penetration testing etc).
Maybe that's one of the key factors ??*
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Yes i know that. And i did try to just use my ROGPHONE 2 for just 1 game which is CODM. And it did stutter. Not often but it does. Many factors can cause the stutter but it does stutter.
Why are we even comparing a mobile device vs a dedicated gaming console in the 1st place ? ?
Rog phone 2 is a great phone simple...
The 120hz AMOLED, 6000mah battery , sd 855+ already won my heart
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Yes i know that. And i did try to just use my ROGPHONE 2 for just 1 game which is CODM. And it did stutter. Not often but it does. Many factors can cause the stutter but it does stutter.
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Maybe the issue is with that game bro, not the phone. Are you using the cooler? If the phone gets too hot then it will throttle both CPU and GPU then gaming performance will decrease for sure, there's no way around that. That's how devices with passive cooling work. But if the phone remains cool then there's no reason for the game to stutter as SD855+ is powerful enough to run any game in the playstore. Unless the game itself is poorly optimized, which is not a sign of a quality triple A game, as it should run fine on much weaker hardware..
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Maybe the issue is with that game bro, not the phone. Are you using the cooler? If the phone gets too hot then it will throttle both CPU and GPU then gaming performance will decrease for sure, there's no way around that. That's how devices with passive cooling work. But if the phone remains cool then there's no reason for the game to stutter as SD855+ is powerful enough to run any game in the playstore. Unless the game itself is poorly optimized, which is not a sign of a quality triple A game, as it should run fine on much weaker hardware..
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I played this game a lot and it never had a stuttered. It is actually one of the better optimised games. In online games, stutters can also be the result of bad network connection.
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So Asus should use IOS? You dont get my point...
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Games on iOS are usually better optimized. Game devs just spend more effort on iOS games because they get more profit from iOS than from Android.
I have a pro max and a rog 2. The pro max will only run heavy games for like 20mins then it will get hot and brightness will go down to 50% or less. That is not a pleasant experience if you're a serious gamer. The iPhone can only hit peak performance for a short time because it is a passively cooled device, despite the powerful hardware.
In short, just use the switch or xbox or Playstation for serious gaming, games are much much more optimized for the hardware there and they are all actively cooled dedicated gaming consoles..
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Yes i know that. And i did try to just use my ROGPHONE 2 for just 1 game which is CODM. And it did stutter. Not often but it does. Many factors can cause the stutter but it does stutter.
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CODM stutters on iOS too - especially with a crappy internet connection. I play CODM on the ROG2, connected to a 5G router and no issues, but when connected to 100mbit HFC broadband connection i get the odd stutter. CODM is smooth 99% of the time for me, so its something beyond the phone thats your issue..
Maybe you should stick to the Nintendo... Sounds like its the only solution for someone like yourself. :good:
Anyone having issues with lag or stutter in game is misidentifying the issue causing the stutter or lag. Or you just can't figure out XMode. This phone is a beast. Thermal throttling isn't an issue. If you're trying to compare a gaming console of any level to a smartphone you probably like to compare apples to oranges too. Why not add gaming PCs to the mix? Understanding the difference in platforms would be a good place to learn why this phone is so amazing, and is cheap for the amount of tech in it, especially when you consider how well it runs heavy games. I can play Classic Matches in PUBG for hours on end and even charge without ever dropping a frame. Show me any other phone in the world besides other 2nd Gen Gaming Phones that can do that.....go ahead, I'll wait..........
Pro Tips: Don't Buy this phone for using as a phone you carry and use as a phone.
Know XMode and set it up for every game.
Use the fan for heavy games, always! (my fan never leaves the phone except for cleaning)
Use the fastest data connection you can for gaming. Lag comes from servers, not this phone. Mobile Data almost always has higher ping than wifi.
If you aren't hyped about this phone you're probably not in to mobile gaming, so why do you even have this phone? Much better phones out there to be just phones. This phone is for playing mobile games.
For reference I played on a Note 9 and an iPhone XS Max before getting this ROG. To say this phone has allowed me to win battles I would have lost on my other phones, would be understating it. This phone is a God at gaming. Can't wait for the ROG 3.
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The state of mobile gaming is getting better all the time. Everyone keeps talking about how terrible it is. Yeah so terrible the two biggest games in the history of the world are both mobile games. You can combine all the rest of the gaming platforms and still not get close to the active daily player base of mobile and it's most popular games. So keep being snooty about gaming superiority, and I'll keep laughing all the way to the bank. Mobile is the future of all tech. If you can't, won't, or don't see that then all I can say is have fun stuck in the past. Not everyone can afford computers and consoles and cameras and TVs. But you can get all that in one device that also makes phone calls and most people can afford one, so do the math, it's pretty simple. Player base numbers alone make mobile the superior platform. Those numbers already working to continue to take out PC and Console hardware gaps and limitations. Pushing phones to be capable of more and more. Will phones ever be as capable as something with a large die cast for processors? No. More room is always better. But the gap will be so small some day soon you'll have one game released for all platforms. Wait, that already happened like two years ago. Only a matter of time before they all do.
I sold my XBox One X to convert to mobile gaming all the time. Because I see the future of gaming and mobile tech all colliding and the lines between platforms being blurred in to non existence(Stadia). We've already seen mobile players beat out console and PC players in Fortnite. How bad is mobile gaming really? I think I've read some of the most biased and uneducated opinions here. Which is sad, this is XDA.
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Been reading the debates. you peeps debating Rog vs switch lite. I feel Nokia 3310 wins here. xD
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sinisin said:
Anyone having issues with lag or stutter in game is misidentifying the issue causing the stutter or lag.
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Agree with your point. People are comparing console and phones for no reasons. and yep it is advertised as best gaming phone and it indeed is the best gaming phone.
sinisin said:
Pro Tips: Don't Buy this phone for using as a phone you carry and use as a phone.
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To be honest, I couldn't find a worthy contender to get as a daily driver for the last 2 years. I don't really do gaming on it apart from occasional pubg game, or some emulation. BUT the sheer firepower this phone holds bought me, especially screen+battery+3.5mm jack+front stereo speakers. And I know this phone will easily last me another 3-4years of usage (with occasional battery exchange of course). I considered note10+, but lack of 3.5mm jack and no stereo speakers killed it for me (former nexus6 owner). So You can't tell people not to buy this phone as a daily driver, maaaybe if someone works with a lot of dust this phone might not be the best idea, but there is a fix to that too (basically wrap it around -screen with stretch foil for daily usage - no need to make holes for ports, except if you use the 3.5mm jack)
Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
Looking for this as well, as well as a module to disable annoying Doze by the SystemUI. I tried a few modules but the devices still dozes.
SnoopyFTW said:
Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
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The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
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Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
TheGhost1951 said:
Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
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An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
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Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
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it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
You can test the throttling using a CPU/GPU Throttle Testing app. The OP 9 starts throttling at a low temperature, I can notice FPS dropping in games starting at 38 degrees.
I use a cooling fan attached to my OP to keep the phone at a constant 32 degrees. I also bought a heat dispersion case to help further.
Also using Konabess to undevolt the GPU also helps a bit.
TheGhost1951 said:
The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
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I'm not asking for it to perform in graphic demanding games, I'm telling you even a redmi note 10 pro (that thing is actually not rated for anything) outperforms the 9 pro in light gaming because it is not capped.
Blame the devs, blame OnePlus, I just want to know if there is any solution, I purchased the phone a few months ago and I'm finding stupid behaviours an "allegedly" flagship should not have.
Jeez even my couple Nord 2 is much better in games, that hurts...
And yeah. Get an Xbox blablabla, I do own a PS4, a powerful laptop and a powerful desktop, I just want my stupid phone to do what it should do or at least know why or if it can be solved, this is not r/xbox.
This is an issue many people complain about but OnePlus ever stated anything.
For what I can see my options are getting a cheap 120HZ phone or custom ROM (I saw a blackshark 4 for 200EUR which runs games fine)
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
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An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
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If you want to try a custom rom, Extended is great as daily driver and for gaming as well
Well, if XBox isn't available then look for a Microsoft Play Station instead!
JohnTheFarm3r said:
This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
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Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
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If I set up OnePlus LE2123/20/25 game runs 60FPS.
If I set for instance, my couple nord 2 DN2103 runs 120FPS same settings, just device name and brand changed!
Presets for S20, Xiaomi 10, vivo x50 all run 120 FPS.
Which for me is big yikes It is clearly devs fault, there has to be something odd...
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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So what are you saying exactly: if we spoof our device to a different one, we get more fps?