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Hi all,
Bit of a noob query, apologies.
I had never rooted a device until last night when I took the plunge with WugFresh's (thankyou so much) program. Great program had an issue with the adb drivers (turned out I needed more power for the USB port) hence I plugged the USB into the rear port and it magically appeared and installed, thus if you have problems installing the driver make sure you are plugged into the rear.
But I am now on the 4.04 google factory flash.
Now my query is, now I am on this 4.04, I presume I am no longer rooted. Can I use WugFresh's program to root the phone again or do I have to wait for another update to the program?
I was rather twitchy during rooting, expecting power cuts across the UK, earth tremor to knock the lead out at the wrong time, aliens to come down and screw it up etc that I dare not try it (don't really understand what I did even though it has worked)...
There is a program on now called superuser, but does not seem to have root access, so I presume I am not rooted now??
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Darren
I did refer to a guide but can't post the link to it.
this is why you don't use toolkits... when you use them you dont know what's going on.
fastboot oem unlock (bootloader unlocked already?)
fastboot flash recovery <get clockwork recovery img>
get su.zip (find it on forum)
flash it in clockwork
you have root.
alternatively, you can flash a custom rom.
zephiK said:
this is why you don't use toolkits... when you use them you dont know what's going on.
fastboot oem unlock (bootloader unlocked already?)
fastboot flash recovery <get clockwork recovery img>
get su.zip (find it on forum)
flash it in clockwork
you have root.
alternatively, you can flash a custom rom.
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Yip, I can agree with the statement, I don't know what was happening.
However, I could follow some of it, I think the bootloader is unlocked (can boot into with vol and off switch), I have clockwork and su, the installer did flash with clockwork.
Wonder if I am indeed rooted then???
pittnuma said:
Yip, I can agree with the statement, I don't know what was happening.
However, I could follow some of it, I think the bootloader is unlocked (can boot into with vol and off switch), I have clockwork and su, the installer did flash with clockwork.
Wonder if I am indeed rooted then???
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When you boot the phone is there an unlocked lock at the bottom of the Google screen? That means your bootloader is unlocked. You can always get into the bootloader using the volume buttons and power.
Once again...using toolkits suck. Now you're stuck in limbo. Try installing an app that needs root like Titanium Backup and see if it works.
zephiK said:
this is why you don't use toolkits... when you use them you dont know what's going on.
fastboot oem unlock (bootloader unlocked already?)
fastboot flash recovery <get clockwork recovery img>
get su.zip (find it on forum)
flash it in clockwork
you have root.
alternatively, you can flash a custom rom.
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Actually no, not with 4.04
I flashed su.zip with CWM and no dice and I used 3 toolkits as well as that method and still no root.
foreman31 said:
Actually no, not with 4.04
I flashed su.zip with CWM and no dice and I used 3 toolkits as well as that method and still no root.
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does the toolkit update itself to include the 4.0.4 root? no, so download the new toolkit..also u dont need to try 3 toolkits, u need the latest and select gsm 4.0.4
if u use the su.zip, u need the latest working with the 4.0.4
again what make u say "still no root"? with no details we can't help u
foreman31 said:
Actually no, not with 4.04
I flashed su.zip with CWM and no dice and I used 3 toolkits as well as that method and still no root.
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Download Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip from here: Link
and flash that through CWM... It definately works on 4.0.4.
hEaTLoE said:
When you boot the phone is there an unlocked lock at the bottom of the Google screen? That means your bootloader is unlocked. You can always get into the bootloader using the volume buttons and power.
Once again...using toolkits suck. Now you're stuck in limbo. Try installing an app that needs root like Titanium Backup and see if it works.
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Thanks, yes there is, so the bootloader is unlocked.
I am flashed correctly so just the root I presume
pittnuma said:
Thanks, yes there is, so the bootloader is unlocked.
I am flashed correctly so just the root I presume
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If you see a superuser app in your app drawer then you have a proper root. If not then something went wrong.
Hi guys, just curious but is there anyway to gain root temporarily in 4.0.4 without unlocking bootloader? Similar to the escalation of privileges hack that worked on 4.0.1/4.0.2.
I want to remove the /system/bin/su and /system/app/Superuser.apk files on the device to get rid of the "Unsupported Device" warning in Google Wallet.
Thanks in advance.
jonnyg1097 said:
If you see a superuser app in your app drawer then you have a proper root. If not then something went wrong.
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Ahh right, I have the Superuser, however when I tried the app suggested earlierit stated device not rooted...
Got it...
Installed new SU.zip, I had a slightly older version and the recovery-clockwork-5.5.0.4
Thanks all.
Can't post links yet but this is the link for the su I used just add the www etc
box.com/s/jvcf196j7x8f8vrc9cyt
jonnyg1097 said:
If you see a superuser app in your app drawer then you have a proper root. If not then something went wrong.
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This is not entirely true. You can have the Superuser app in your app drawer and still not have root. The permissions on su need to be set properly.
Diger36 said:
Download Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip from here: Link
and flash that through CWM... It definately works on 4.0.4.
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pittnuma said:
Got it...
Installed new SU.zip, I had a slightly older version and the recovery-clockwork-5.5.0.4
Thanks all.
Can't post links yet but this is the link for the su I used just add the www etc
box.com/s/jvcf196j7x8f8vrc9cyt
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A look at the first page.... Ah well, glad you sorted it out...
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Hi, Is i possible to First unlock bootloaders then root it then flash recovery then flash rom then relock the phone and still be able to install roms and still got custom recovery?
Then maybe install new roms and stuff? And then install normal rom and remove root and the install normal recovery without a pc? Is it possible?
Thanks in advance
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23167-oem-lock-while-running-custom-rom/
That post says it will run your custom ROM just fine, but you cannot flash some areas after its locked.
Unlocking it again will wipe your phone as usual.
so I can't reflash stock without unlocked bootloaders?
julllleee said:
so I can't reflash stock without unlocked bootloaders?
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Correct, the next question is why would you want to lock your bootloader after flashing a custom recovery and rom?
Well actually you can ODIN without unlocked bootloader...so there's that.
Leave your bootloader unlocked unless you're planning to return your phone for a warranty claim.
julllleee said:
so I can't reflash stock without unlocked bootloaders?
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You can (if you have root, or a custom recovery), but why?? There is no need to have a locked bootloader.
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Hi
Well the micro sd port on the phone is glapping (maybe not spelled like that but if I move the phone it disconnect) and if that gets worse like the port stops working. Then I want to be able to send it back.
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julllleee said:
Hi
Well the micro sd port on the phone is glapping (maybe not spelled like that but if I move the phone it disconnect) and if that gets worse like the port stops working. Then I want to be able to send it back.
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Alright, so first there is no microsd port on our phones, think you're actually talking about the usb port. If there is a hardware failure on your phone though (the port not working right) then locking the bootloader but leaving on a custom rom is a bad idea (they'll figure out what you did). You'll want to return to a stock, unmodified ICS experience and send in the phone for warranty repair or replacement.
Your option for returning to stock is to use ODIN (which is probably the easiest way, there are more than a few threads detailing how to use ODIN to return to stock).
I own a GNex from Vodaphone Spain and all I want to do is network unlock it but keep it as close to factory status as possible. If I flash the official 4.1.1 image from google, will I still get OTA updates?
RodkaRoma said:
I own a GNex from Vodaphone Spain and all I want to do is network unlock it but keep it as close to factory status as possible. If I flash the official 4.1.1 image from google, will I still get OTA updates?
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yes
3rdstring said:
yes
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And will it be network unlocked?
RodkaRoma said:
And will it be network unlocked?
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No, I don't think so
3rdstring said:
No, I don't think so
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So I would have officially done nothing since I'm already running on 4.1.1 right?
RodkaRoma said:
So I would have officially done nothing since I'm already running on 4.1.1 right?
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Flashing a ROM, bootloader, recovery, or even a new radio won't network unlock your device. The files responsible for the locking of the network reside in a different partition (called EFS), that can't be modified by flashing something. It needs a different hacking of which I personally don't know anything
bgdxv said:
Flashing a ROM, bootloader, recovery, or even a new radio won't network unlock your device. The files responsible for the locking of the network reside in a different partition (called EFS), that can't be modified by flashing something. It needs a different hacking of which I personally don't know anything
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Yes but I need a rooted rom in order to access that partition. I have unlocked phones before. But, in lieu of what you're saying. Theoretically speaking, if I were to unlock the bootloader, flash a rooted rom, network unlock the phone, and the restore it to factory settings with google's image, the network unlock should still be in place shouldn't it? And I should get my OTA updates.
RodkaRoma said:
Yes but I need a rooted rom in order to access that partition. I have unlocked phones before. But, in lieu of what you're saying. Theoretically speaking, if I were to unlock the bootloader, flash a rooted rom, network unlock the phone, and the restore it to factory settings with google's image, the network unlock should still be in place shouldn't it? And I should get my OTA updates.
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Yes.
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is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Thanks this worked :good:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
bkeaver said:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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You have stock recovery.
BenPope said:
You have stock recovery.
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so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
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I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.
ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....
bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
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Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
Mr Hofs said:
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
ashyx said:
Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
ashyx said:
I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
redpoint73 said:
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
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ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
pnr2020 said:
ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
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Every device and manufacturer has its own subtle differences and learning curve. Its really not what hard, just read up and make sure you understand before messing around with it.
pnr2020 said:
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
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Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
Rantrave07 said:
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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yeah one can always flash the stock recovery after rooting.
redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
Using the dd command to make a "copy" of the recovery works if you're rooted and to be rooted you have to have custom recovery which doesn't help much since you lose stock recovery the moment you flash the custom one, but if you boot it and root then at least you can use the dd command if that is the way you want to make a "backup" of your stock recovery. Silly little circle to run around in
BerndM14 said:
Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
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Yes, I was aware of that; although it didn't seem to be the OP's goal. But thanks for pointing it out for their benefit.
thanks everyone for advice im sure i will get it right just one more quick question can you still upgrade with OTA when rooted or is it like other phones where you can not
Rantrave07 said:
Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
pnr2020 said:
thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
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:good: glad it helped
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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pnr2020 said:
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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pnr2020 said:
To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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XSL-FO said:
thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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As long as you have a stock recovery it's all good. But even if you have a custom one, before doing the update install a custom recovery. Make the update, and after that if you want flash again a custom recovery.
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