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Given that the phone has gorilla glass, do you guys thing the phone even need a protective screen cover?
Coming to the end of 2 yr. contract with dhd with screen protector that is looking A little beat up, so am on the fence right now.
any thoughts gratefully recd!
Al
Yes, if you ever plan to re-sale down the road, it will help on pricing. Plus, if you do get scratches, at least its on the screen protector.
Yes, I learned this the hard way on my Galaxy Nexus.
Yes, especially considering how many layers are all glued together. Don't want to replace all that, all at once
better be safe than sorry. also, if you're planning to resell the phone to get better value in the future, it's better to have screen protector.
ive never had a screen protector on any of my smarthphones.
i might try one on this phone though. its my first super expensive smarthphone.
Yes holding this phone is like trying to talk into a living big mouth bass.
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Yes holding this phone is like trying to talk into a living big mouth bass.
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lol wut
1. Yes, you need the screen protector. I learned it the hard way: Desire with scratched screen.
2. Yes, this is my first super expensive phone ever. Never went above €400 before...but this...I know €600...just could not resist
No, didn't for the s2 and no problems. Any scratches should be tiny, and invisible when you're using the thing.
Never had a screen protector on any phone for the past 14 years, not about to start now both my HD2 and S2 have stayed in pristine condition without.
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wow, $2 screen protector is too much for you guys? Do you even need to ask this question? I've used it on my iphone4 since day one with nice gel cover and same with LG O3D. Both look like new when i take them out of the cover. O3D is since last Sept 2011 and Iphone 4 i bought in Sept 2010. Already got good trade in price for ip4 for SIII. Coud'nt wait to get the screen protector for it as well as hard plastic cover which enhances the look of the phone.
Gorilla glass or bullet proof glass it's your gadget you should do whatever it takes to minimize wear and tear. My 2008 Lumina SS still wows passengers as they can't believe it's almost 4 years old car.
Nothing to do with the cost of a screen protector,I just really can't see why I would want one. As I've said, in 14 years of owning mobiles I'm yet to scratch a screen (or drop a phone). I don't use a case either unless I go to the beach - my phone, my choice. Do you guys also wrap all your furniture in plastic so that it doesn't get damaged?
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I've never used a screen protector on my Droid X and there isn't a mark on the screen. My assumption is that Gorilla Glass 2 is even better than Gorilla Glass so I'm not considering a screen protector on my SIII when it arrives. I just don't think any screen saver feels like the original glass of the phone and I just don't like them in general.
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I've never used a screen protector on my Droid X and there isn't a mark on the screen. My assumption is that Gorilla Glass 2 is even better than Gorilla Glass so I'm not considering a screen protector on my SIII when it arrives. I just don't think any screen saver feels like the original glass of the phone and I just don't like them in general.
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Gorilla glass 2 is stronger than 1, but they use less of it to make the phone thin as possible.
I don't know if thickness has anything to do with resisting scratches as I would need to look at their data sheet and experiments but I do know that you will have the same impact resistances.
They advertise "same strength at less thickness" when they presented it a few months back. So don't expect the SGS3 to be better than the SGS2, but expect GG2 to be better than GG1 at the same thicknesses.
Thx to all you guys that responded!
I might look up the specs of gorilla glass and see how scratch proof it is... would pref to go without cover if poss, but then i see the fairly mangled cover of my dhd and think hmmmm!!!
if I find good info i will post
http://bcove.me/5ywumwc9
impressive!!!
info here
HOW IS CORNING® GORILLA® GLASS 2 DIFFERENT?
Gorilla Glass 2 can be up to 20 percent thinner than the original, but still just as tough. This exceptional thinness enables greater design possibilities for slimmer and sleeker devices with brighter images and improved touch sensitivity. Gorilla Glass 2 is elegant and lightweight, but scratch resistant and durable enough to withstand the unexpected abuses of everyday life.
WHY DO I WANT GORILLA GLASS ON MY DEVICES?
Scrapes, bumps, and drops are a fact of life, but Gorilla Glass enables your device to resist damage from the abuses that come with everyday use. Gorilla Glass also has strong aesthetic appeal. It’s thin, lightweight, and cool to the touch – enabling the sleekest designs.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ION-EXCHANGE PROCESS?
Ion exchange is a chemical strengthening process where large ions are “stuffed” into the glass surface, creating a state of compression. Gorilla Glass is specially designed to maximize this behavior.
The glass is placed in a hot bath of molten salt at a temperature of approximately 400°C. Smaller sodium ions leave the glass, and larger potassium ions from the salt bath replace them. These larger ions take up more room and are pressed together when the glass cools, producing a layer of compressive stress on the surface of the glass. Gorilla Glass’s special composition enables the potassium ions to diffuse far into the surface, creating high compressive stress deep into the glass. This layer of compression creates a surface that is more resistant to damage from everyday use.
WHAT MAKES GORILLA GLASS SO DAMAGE RESISTANT?
The unique composition of Gorilla Glass allows for a deep layer of high compressive stress (created through an ion-exchange process). This compression acts as a sort of “armor,” making the glass exceptionally tough and damage resistant.
HOW DO I KNOW IF GORILLA GLASS IS ON MY DEVICE?
Gorilla Glass is currently used by more than 33 major brands, designed into hundreds of product models, and featured on more than 750 million devices. Check out this list for the most current, comprehensive collection of devices that Corning can confirm for Gorilla Glass.
DOES THIS LIST INCLUDE ALL DEVICES THAT HAVE GORILLA GLASS?
No, unfortunately, customer agreements prevent us from identifying all the devices that feature Gorilla Glass. This list shows all devices we can talk about. We’ll continue to update the list as customers allow us to share that information.
CAN I BREAK GORILLA GLASS?
If subjected to enough abuse, Gorilla Glass can break. However, Gorilla Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip, or break.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF GREATER DAMAGE RESISTANCE, BUT WON’T GORILLA GLASS ADD BULK TO MY DEVICE?
Corning’s ion-exchange process makes Gorilla Glass exceptionally durable, while allowing it to remain thin and lightweight enough to enable the sleekest smartphones and slates. Gorilla Glass can be produced at a thinness of 0.5 millimeters just four times thicker than a human hair.
IS IT TRUE THAT GORILLA GLASS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 1960S?
No. That has been a popular myth, which apparently resulted from a misunderstanding of the facts. It’s true that Corning experimented with chemically strengthened glass in 1960, as part of an initiative called “Project Muscle.” In 1961, Corning developed a glass composition it promoted under the Chemcor® brand, which featured state-of-the-art strength and durability. Chemcor glass was incorporated into tableware, ophthalmic products, and applications for the automotive, aviation, and pharmaceutical industries. When Corning began developing a tough new cover glass for electronic devices in 2006, Corning scientists, of course, drew upon the company’s prior expertise with strengthened glass. However, Corning Gorilla Glass is a different product and glass composition than Chemcor. We implemented significant compositional as well as other changes to achieve superior product characteristics including outstanding damage resistance, while making the glass compatible with Corning’s proprietary fusion-draw manufacturing process. Corning’s fusion-draw process produces exceptionally thin glass with unparalleled surface quality. The result is a tough and damage-resistant glass that is ideal for today’s sleekest electronic devices and most sophisticated touch technology.
IS GORILLA GLASS RECYCLABLE?
Yes. Gorilla Glass is environmentally friendly and can be recycled.
Depends...
My G1 didn't have gorilla glass and after nearly 2 years it was scratch free. I had one on my Samsung GS1 (don't know if it did anything though), but I didn't put one on my Thunderbolt, Droid1, DX1, Bionic, or my Sensation and those are all just fine. Gorilla glass 2 can be scratched, I mean it's still just glass. Gorilla Glass2 can also break. Sadly a screen protector will not prevent your screen from breaking; They only prevent hairline scratches which really shouldn't lower the resale price more than what you would have spent on the screen protector and huge bulky case anyway. I personally like my phones naked.
Just take care of it, don't run around with keys or a bag of sand in your pocket and your phone should be just fine.
-Dr B
I prefer them naked.
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My G1 didn't have gorilla glass and after nearly 2 years it was scratch free. I had one on my Samsung GS1 (don't know if it did anything though), but I didn't put one on my Thunderbolt, Droid1, DX1, Bionic, or my Sensation and those are all just fine. Gorilla glass 2 can be scratched, I mean it's still just glass. Gorilla Glass2 can also break. Sadly a screen protector will not prevent your screen from breaking; They only prevent hairline scratches which really shouldn't lower the resale price more than what you would have spent on the screen protector and huge bulky case anyway. I personally like my phones naked.
Just take care of it, don't run around with keys or a bag of sand in your pocket and your phone should be just fine.
-Dr B
I prefer them naked.
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Actually, a soft screen protector will work as a shock absorber and turn impact energy into heat. This means that it actually does reduce the risk of screen damage. It's fairly basic physics.
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I didn't put one on my GS1 and to this day it doesn't have a single scratch on the screen. The back cover...that's another story. I've even taken it to the beach on several occassions. I don't plan on putting a screen protector on my GS3.
I prefer the feel of the glass without anything on it.
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Removing sony shatter proof glass voids the warranty. It works only on glass it works on camera lens too
I found this campaign a coating that make phone scratch resistant. we can apply it on front and back.. It costs 25 dollars only..Here is what they have to say............
So what is Liquid Sapphire and how does it work ?
Liquid Sapphire is a DIY coating that stops your phone, tablet or any touch screen from getting scratched, ditch your old plastic shield protector and get the full clarity of your screen using liquid sapphire, it’s invisible, contains man-made liquid sapphire which is second only to diamonds in hardness. Liquid Sapphire is a one time Nanotechnology application and does not need to be topped up.
Liquid Sapphire improves the clarity of your screen, the effect is caused by the Sapphires in liquid which will be a technology used in all touch screen devices over the years to come.
Specifications
Works with any touchscreen device and camera lenses.
Scratch resistant & waterproof.
Life Span : Permanent, Cannot be removed .(It can be removed by FELT and commercial polishing or commercial acid, e.g. hydrochloric acid.)
Invisible coating
External Coating : Yes
Internal Coating : No
Shelf Life : 18 months from opening
Non Toxic
Non Hazardous.
Liquid Amour is a lacquer, Liquid Sapphire is a invisible coating that contains Sapphire. Auto Glass coatings will be waterbased and are no where near in the same league, to coat it with Liquid Sapphire would cost more than the glass even at cost !
Sapphire is second to diamonds in the scale of hardness in natural mineral stones.
Transparency and hardness Sapphire is not only highly transparent to wavelengths of light between 150 nm (UV) and 5500 nm (IR) (the human eye can discern wavelengths from about 380 nm to 750 nm[37]), but is also extraordinarily scratch-resistant. Sapphire has a value of 9 on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness.
Hardness Example 10 diamond 9 sapphire 8 beryl 7.5 garnet 6.5-7.5 steel file 7.0 quartz (amethyst, citrine, agate) 6 feldspar (spectrolite) 5.5-6.5 most glass 5 apatite 4 fluorite 3 calcite, a penny 2.5 fingernail 2 gypsum 1 talc
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Cool, but not for me to experiment.
I would on the other hand would love to remove the Sony logo.. (I hate logos)
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I thought these were supposed to have dragontrail glass anyway?
DarrenT said:
I thought these were supposed to have dragontrail glass anyway?
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Yup; the issue isn't the glass itself. The top surface of the phone is the shatterproof layer. It's on top of that dragontrail glass and scratches easily (Recombu has show this in one of their youtube vids). Removing this layer after it has been scratched apparently voids warranty.
This is why it is probably best to put a screen protector on the XZ1 as it will protect the shatterproofing layer. I for one will probably try out this liquid stuff as it isn't that much more expensive than a good screen protector (e.g. Krusell) anyway.
jos_031 said:
Link to website
Removing sony shatter proof glass voids the warranty. It works only on glass it works on camera lens too
I found this campaign a coating that make phone scratch resistant. we can apply it on front and back.. It costs 25 dollars only..Here is what they have to say............
So what is Liquid Sapphire and how does it work ?
Liquid Sapphire is a DIY coating that stops your phone, tablet or any touch screen from getting scratched, ditch your old plastic shield protector and get the full clarity of your screen using liquid sapphire, it’s invisible, contains man-made liquid sapphire which is second only to diamonds in hardness. Liquid Sapphire is a one time Nanotechnology application and does not need to be topped up.
Liquid Sapphire improves the clarity of your screen, the effect is caused by the Sapphires in liquid which will be a technology used in all touch screen devices over the years to come.
Specifications
Works with any touchscreen device and camera lenses.
Scratch resistant & waterproof.
Life Span : Permanent, Cannot be removed .(It can be removed by FELT and commercial polishing or commercial acid, e.g. hydrochloric acid.)
Invisible coating
External Coating : Yes
Internal Coating : No
Shelf Life : 18 months from opening
Non Toxic
Non Hazardous.
Liquid Amour is a lacquer, Liquid Sapphire is a invisible coating that contains Sapphire. Auto Glass coatings will be waterbased and are no where near in the same league, to coat it with Liquid Sapphire would cost more than the glass even at cost !
Sapphire is second to diamonds in the scale of hardness in natural mineral stones.
Transparency and hardness Sapphire is not only highly transparent to wavelengths of light between 150 nm (UV) and 5500 nm (IR) (the human eye can discern wavelengths from about 380 nm to 750 nm[37]), but is also extraordinarily scratch-resistant. Sapphire has a value of 9 on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness.
Hardness Example 10 diamond 9 sapphire 8 beryl 7.5 garnet 6.5-7.5 steel file 7.0 quartz (amethyst, citrine, agate) 6 feldspar (spectrolite) 5.5-6.5 most glass 5 apatite 4 fluorite 3 calcite, a penny 2.5 fingernail 2 gypsum 1 talc
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Has anyone tried any of these liquid protectors? Reviews seem a bit mixed online - not sure I'd risk it....
is it ok to apply a screen protector or that sapphire liquid on the shatter prof glass?
rockambole said:
is it ok to apply a screen protector or that sapphire liquid on the shatter prof glass?
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I was worried about that too as the FAQ said that it's not meant for plastic, but then I found this Q&A:
Michihiro Kino****a said 10 days ago
Some phones and tablets, e.g. Sony Xperia series, have a pre-installed film over the original glass for glass scattering prevention. Does Liquid Sapphire work with them?
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To which Steve answered
Steve Mich said 10 days ago
@Michihiro Kino****a
Yes it will work fine.
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So it's fine for the XZ1
krispijn_s said:
I was worried about that too as the FAQ said that it's not meant for plastic, but then I found this Q&A:
To which Steve answered
So it's fine for the XZ1
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Oh if it work then it is a god send... i was the first person to order from the campaign... after reading technical info i was sold out... at that time i was not even thinking of xperia Z1
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Oh if it work then it is a god send... i was the first person to order from the campaign... after reading technical info i was sold out... at that time i was not even thinking of xperia Z1
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I have ordered one of these and will post my findings in the next few days when it arrives and from the video's I have seen online it seems to work very well.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007EZ3EM0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
daleski75 said:
I have ordered one of these and will post my findings in the next few days when it arrives and from the video's I have seen online it seems to work very well.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007EZ3EM0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Dynaflow is a lacqur which is not as scratch resistant as saphire and not so long lasting..
jos_031 said:
Dynaflow is a lacqur which is not as scratch resistant as saphire and not so long lasting..
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Might cancel my order and order some of this as it looks way better.
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Tried to cancel my amazon order and no go so will use the dynaflow in the meantime at it should offer very good protection over having no screen protector and will keep an eye on this thread to see when this product ships in October.
daleski75 said:
Might cancel my order and order some of this as it looks way better.
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Tried to cancel my amazon order and no go so will use the dynaflow in the meantime at it should offer very good protection over having no screen protector and will keep an eye on this thread to see when this product ships in October.
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That's a shame, mate. But it's also a chance for us to hear if this type of product (the paint-it-on kind) works for our Z1!
Personally I'm still undecided about perhaps ordering a simple screen protector until the sapphire stuff arrives.
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That's a shame, mate. But it's also a chance for us to hear if this type of product (the paint-it-on kind) works for our Z1!
Personally I'm still undecided about perhaps ordering a simple screen protector until the sapphire stuff arrives.
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I've ordered a pack of 10 screen protectors regardless just in case and will see how it goes bit dubious over the whole liquid protection so may end up putting on a screen protector anyway!
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changed my mind will refuse the amazon order and ordered the sapphire one as it sounds much better and will report back my findings when it arrives.
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I've ordered a pack of 10 screen protectors regardless just in case and will see how it goes bit dubious over the whole liquid protection so may end up putting on a screen protector anyway!
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changed my mind will refuse the amazon order and ordered the sapphire one as it sounds much better and will report back my findings when it arrives.
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:laugh: another convert!
I used a Crystalusion wipe on the Z and got great results.
I am now expecting a bottle of this:
http://liquidglassshield.com/products/#lgsmultimedia
"Multimedia spray application pack"
Will see how this works and post results as soon as my phone arrives
I have Dynaflow's Liquid Armor on my Z1 at the moment - I did not remove the shatterproof film and it seems to have worked a treat.
Still thats not stopping me ordering some Liquid Sapphire too
krazeyivan said:
I have Dynaflow's Liquid Armor on my Z1 at the moment - I did not remove the shatterproof film and it seems to have worked a treat.
Still thats not stopping me ordering some Liquid Sapphire too
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Good to hear! No problems with the proximity sensor?
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Good to hear! No problems with the proximity sensor?
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Not that I have come across - proximity sensor works fine when I take calls and the phone is around my face.
I did the full 24 hour dry before I touched it again - front and back coated.
Interesting thing to see will be when I get some of this liquid sapphire, if it plays well with the liquid armor coating which will be only about half a month old by then I imagine.
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Not that I have come across - proximity sensor works fine when I take calls and the phone is around my face.
I did the full 24 hour dry before I touched it again - front and back coated.
Interesting thing to see will be when I get some of this liquid sapphire, if it plays well with the liquid armor coating which will be only about half a month old by then I imagine.
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That's the bit I am interested in and also my plan is to use standard screen protectors in the meantime, refuse/cancel the order from amazon for the dynaflow and wait for the sapphire to arrive and use that instead.
Guess there is no harm in mixing and matching as you are just adding another layer of protection.
*Edit* My point above... knowing me I will end up using the dynaflow anyway but will try and resist the temptation!
Got the screen protectors and the dynaflow this morning so left the dynaflow alone....
Put on the screen protector very slowly and got it on perfect not wonky or anything and after noticed one spec of dust right in the middle of the screen arghhh ripped it off and threw it in the bin.
Opened the dynaflow package and put it on right away and now need to wait 24 hours before I can buff out the screen so will leave my phone turned off until tomorrow which is going to be very difficult.
Thankfully I can use my trust Nexus 7 to get me through these hard times lol
Still going to keep the liquid sapphire when that comes and will apply that to give it some extra strength.
So here is my question. I’m looking at the invisible sheild glass screen protector but am wondering, what will happen with the protector when I squeeze my pixel for assistant? Will I lift or crack? What do you guys think?
I seriously doubt they will be sending the glass screen. Should be fine.
What do you mean sending the glass screen? I’m buying a glass screen protector. The pixel 2XL is Poled made of plastic so you can squeeze. So I’m wondering about the glass protector
Have you checked the Accessories thread here
That doesn’t answer my question. Hence why I asked it. That’s basically just listing what accessories are available
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Maybe a good place to ask...
dberthia said:
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Exactly! That’s my point! I don’t want to spend 50+ dollars then that crap pops off
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Maybe a good place to ask...
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Huh?
You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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Understood but is that not why google went POLED so as not to have glass to deal with the pressure
Zagg is saying we should be fine and the warranty for return is 30 days from website kiosks depends on them
Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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the only way to really know is to wait for someone to test it
BUT
this is the first time i heard that screen is plastic
what i know that it is gorilla glass 5 from their website and from other websites
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_2_xl-8720.php
(DISPLAY Type P-OLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 6.0 inches, 92.6 cm2 (~76.4% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1440 x 2880 pixels, 18:9 ratio (~538 ppi density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 5
- Always-on display
- 100% DCI-P3 coverage)
It’s POLED the P = plastic
http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/amp/
i know that the inside where made of plastic
but the touchscreen in the outside are made of glass (the digitizer)
so glass on top of a plastic (they get thinner panel this way )
OH right the HTC U11 have lcd glass screen in the first place
maybe you can ask in there form if anyone have a problem in the squeeze with glass and screen protector
Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Sorry I have to correct you here. The squeeze gesture is picked up by 2 rows of sensors inside the edges of the frame. It has nothing to do with the screen.
Jerryrigeverything did a teardown on the HTC u11 which uses the same tech. So, that section of the frame edge is actually mobile to a degree. It also compromised rigidity and failed his bend test.
Why do you need a screen protector? I have not made a scratch a phone screen since prior to my nexus 4. The screen are pretty much scratch proof unless you use sand paper to do it.
How good is Gorilla Glass Victus glass? Will it still need a Screen protector? The curved edges make my hesitant about using a screen protector.
Thoughts?
I looked at JerryRigEverything's videos on the S20 Ultra and S21 Ultra (or Gorilla Glass 6 vs Victus)
It seemed that it scratched just the same. I also saw an article where the Corning person admitted that it'll still get scratched by sand, dust, coins, and keys in your pocket.
That said, I haven't decided what I want to do yet. I love tempered glass protectors but they're usually terrible on curved screens and I hate the plastic feeling ones.
It's still a 6/7 on mohs scale.
The only difference is that Victus is slightly more durable, meaning it can endure a bit more force/pressure (newton), something like 8 instead of 5. So your phone will still break and scratch, but it requires a bit more effort to damage it.
Of course it won't help you with sand or anything solid that might make a dent with little amount of effort/pressure.
I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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Every time I've tried that, the screen gets scratched. All the way up to iPhone 12 pro max.
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I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that. It's down to everyone's personal philosophy, but in my view the phone should serve me, not the other way around.
For what it's worth, even without screen protectors I didn't have any visible scratches on my Pixel 2 XL or 4 XL, after 2 years of usage each, so I'm gonna risk it this time too.
After 6 days I have the first scratch in the display. The device was always carried isolated in a cargo pocket. I will probably send it back.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that.
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And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
entropism said:
And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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Likewise. Using Armorsuit plastic screen protector and 100% fingerprint function (and it's fast!)
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Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
I always put screen protectors on my phones until I got the Essential Phone. No tempered glass screen protectors would work on it, and I did not like the alternatives. I decided to go without one and just "try" to be careful. It did not take long before I had a lot of tiny scratches all over my screen. When I got a deep scratch on my PH-1, I went back to the TPU wet apply screen protector that I did not like, but it is better than the alternative. I did not use my Pixel 6 Pro as my daily driver until my screen protector arrived the next day. I have to say that the TPU screen protector I purchased is much better than the one I used for my PH-1. Very pleased with it. I think the brand is IMBZBK or something like that. I have never heard of it before, and only got it until I could get a brand name protector. I may continue using it until it gives me trouble. I highly recommend a screen protector on your Pixel 6!
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Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
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Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
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Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
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Yeah?
Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
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Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
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Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
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Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I can only repeat myself: Apples implementation of Sapphire on their apple watches & on the backside of devices (camera lense protection) is fake. It was tested all day long on Youtube by people using Mohs picks, it scratched at 6 and 7, which means that it's only Sapphire in name. There is no optical "sapphire" used by Apple, it's a fancy marketing word and only that.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I always watch out for meteor showers...
Yeah as said before marketing nonsense. I think the saphire would shatter too easy if they needed to get it that thin for weight control
Hello,
I want to buy a P6P, but the only thing holding me back are the Reddit complaints and some YT reviews stating that the device gets scratched very very easily due to the GGV used on it? Can you share your experience.
Thanks.
Welcome to XDA, @dimitarfive.
I haven't noticed since I have an OtterBox Defender case and Whitestone Dome tempered glass screen protector. Same with my wife's P6P.
I don't think it scratches any more than other phones. I use a flip case without screen protector. I do have 2 or 3 miniscule scratches that are only visible under certain angles or lighting conditions. I would say that it all depends on how you protect and treat your phone.
Sand scratches all glass. Use a case and a screen protector. My 2.5 yo N10+ has no scratches or damage in spite of more then a few drops because it's always in a case with a screen protector. The case should have slightly raised guards on all sides of the display to help prevent contact on face plants.
A good case lessens high G loading that can damage internal components like BGA chipsets during an impact.
I've never used a screen protector, since the beginning of smartphones (Dell Streak 5). I keep my phone in a slim case, and it goes into a padded belt clip case (turtleback brand). My phone is used constanly, and I've never scratched one. But, I also don't go to the beach, or other functions that would allow dirt/rock/debris to get to the screen.
I know accidents can happen, but I try to treat my phones as the EXPENSIVE things they are.
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I've never used a screen protector, since the beginning of smartphones (Dell Streak 5). I keep my phone in a slim case, and it goes into a padded belt clip case (turtleback brand). My phone is used constanly, and I've never scratched one. But, I also don't go to the beach, or other functions that would allow dirt/rock/debris to get to the screen.
I know accidents can happen, but I try to treat my phones as the EXPENSIVE things they are.
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I live the desert. Just for giggles I finally took the screen protector off my old S4+, it felt good.
Within 4 months in spite off being careful it had a couple scratches. One grain of sand is all it takes... and sand is found everywhere.
Any pocket grit can mar glass.
Your dry fingers are also abrasive to glass and will gradually wear it down over time.
No screen protector, never used them. Day one purchase and no scratches. I don't think it scratches any easier than any other phone.
6 month old P6P here and it is scratch free.
Somehow, I got a scratch on my screen. It's a small ding and it doesn't bother me, but it's there. I don't use screen protectors, don't like them.
No screen protector but got a case since day 1 in October. No visible scratches.
I noticed micro scratches within the first week - so I am using a screen protection for the first time in my life.
dimitarfive said:
Hello,
I want to buy a P6P, but the only thing holding me back are the Reddit complaints and some YT reviews stating that the device gets scratched very very easily due to the GGV used on it? Can you share your experience.
Thanks.
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That's an interesting topic.
And, factually, it is true that the Pixel 6 Pro scratches quite easily, compared to previous models.
Now, why is that?
The reason is the so-called Gorilla Glass Victus. It's a new product by Corning - a product that is in use in a number of phones, including IPhones. And that's where the interesting part comes in. All Gorilla Glass Victus phones are more prone to (micro) scratches.
Meaning that the Pixel 6 Pro does scratch more easily compared to previous models, but so does any other flagship with Victus glass, currently.
You might ask yourself: Why did Corning release a product that is prone to get scratched more easily? Well, the answer is quite simple: Drop protection. Gorilla Glass Victus is harder to scratch on a deeper level and is much more resistant to drop damage, at least in theory, according to Corning.
In the end, you will be best advised to get a screen protector on. The Pixel 6 Pro is a good phone. I can't call it great, since battery life and reception could both be much better, but you will have a hard time to find a package this good (awesome camera, many software features, timely updates, good root support (Samsung hates root), decent hardware quality, good hardware values on paper) somewhere else. The Pixel 6 Pro is a phone that I can recommend, but it's still a phone that can improve in a number of areas, but so does any other phone.
Considering that the P6a is on the horizon, and it's usually a much better bang for the buck, you might be best advised though, to hold out and wait for that phone (as far as I know, the P6a will be revealed in May).
Morgrain said:
That's an interesting topic.
And, factually, it is true that the Pixel 6 Pro scratches quite easily, compared to previous models.
Now, why is that?
The reason is the so-called Gorilla Glass Victus. It's a new product by Corning - a product that is in use in a number of phones, including IPhones. And that's where the interesting part comes in. All Gorilla Glass Victus phones are more prone to (micro) scratches.
Meaning that the Pixel 6 Pro does scratch more easily compared to previous models, but so does any other flagship with Victus glass, currently.
You might ask yourself: Why did Corning release a product that is prone to get scratched more easily? Well, the answer is quite simple: Drop protection. Gorilla Glass Victus is harder to scratch on a deeper level and is much more resistant to drop damage, at least in theory, according to Corning.
In the end, you will be best advised to get a screen protector on. The Pixel 6 Pro is a good phone. I can't call it great, since battery life and reception could both be much better, but you will have a hard time to find a package this good (awesome camera, many software features, timely updates, good root support (Samsung hates root), decent hardware quality, good hardware values on paper).
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Scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7 just like all other glass phones...
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In my experience, yeah, it scratches really easily.
I've never used screen protectors before, and I baby my phones, but within the first two weeks I had multiple scratches on the screen to the point where I had to put on a screen protector just for my sanity. I'm seriously considering getting the screen replaced entirely because of it.
stroke55 said:
I noticed micro scratches within the first week - so I am using a screen protection for the first time in my life.
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Same happened to me, I never used screen protectors in the past and I could go several months to a year with very minor scuffs. With the P6 I got a heavy scratch after 3 days.
If you're worried about scratches and want peace of mind just use a screen protector. Glass is glass and will always scratch under the right conditions no matter how much GG hypes it up.
I think the oleophobic coating could be better but scratches are not a problem for me. My release pixel was 4 months without a screen protector and it looked fine, same for my new device after 2 months.
Had mine since mid January, no screen protector...not one scratch. I use a turtleback case. I've never had a screen protector on any of my smartphones. Last phone I had with a protector, was one of those old PDA type phones.
My back glass is COVERED in scuffs and scratches. I'm glad I got the white model because you really do have to inspect it properly to see it