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Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy. I have 30 apps on my SGSIII and that is only .7G. Most Apps are only like 10M so it would take 100 apps for 1 G. Id say 16G is plenty. Buy a 64G SD card for all your media files and you should be fine.
16 GB is fine on a phone that allows an external microSD card. Put all your music, photos, videos, etc on the microSD and you'll have 16GB dedicated only for apps.
16 GB on a device that doesn't have an SD slot is okay for people who either don't have much stuff or that store that stuff on a "cloud" service (dropbox, google music/drive, etc) Personally, I don't like the "cloud" idea as it uses up my data allotment.
For the sake of comparison, I have 4 Gigs of music and many apps on my Inspire 4G with 8 GB micro SD Card. 16 GB internal with a 32 GB card will be more space than most people will use.
i actually had to clear out internal space for tomtom maps on my 16gb atrix (no option to use sd card for the maps) ....and i only use internal for apps.
yeah i know there are ways to force apps to sd...but it was causing freezing issues on the atrix...
so yeah, a little disappointed that there isn't a 32gb at launch...cuz in two years apps can just get bigger and bigger....
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I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy.
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Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
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Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
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Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
Was just curious on difference in file size between my ios apps and soon to be android apps. I will compare a couple of other apps later today but if this is the trend I don't think I will have an issue with only 10gb of usable space.
I just compared the original angry birds 2.3.0 and my ios app is 112mb and the play store shows the android version is only 24mb.
Netflix ios 30.3mb and playstore shows the android version at 10mb.
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Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
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No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
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No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
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I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
Pop a 64GB microSD card in there. Problem solved.
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I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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wow. That concerns me greatly.
For me 16GB is not enough for main memory. I have a 32GB SD card but unfortunately on the S3 and presumably the Note 2 App2SD won't work. So all you are left with is 16gb to install all your apps, which is really like 11GB useable. Well if you want to play games on your phone (I have been) a lot of these bigger games are each 1GB or larger!! I just Bards tale and that had an option to install 3.5GB!! So for me I have to say my next phone needs to have at least 32GB or larger especially if App2SD can't get working right. I was really hoping the Att GN2 would come in 32 and 64GB flavors.
1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
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I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
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My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
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I'm in the same boat, I would like to get a White 32gb version but I read AT&T is only getting the 16GB and only have grey for now. I'm not sure if I can wait until the white one comes out or not.
16gb isn't going to be enough for me but I do have a 64gb sdxc so I'll just make due.
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1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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You can always root the device & install the mod that swaps the internal sdcard with the ExtSdCard.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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TiBu definitely has the option to move apps to SD. Look under Batch.
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On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
NATA8986 said:
On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Yes, it does,
Thanks
ChitownWingMan said:
The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
elesbb said:
Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
elesbb said:
Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
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I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
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I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
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I did reply, i hope you got it, i typed quite a bit
But now that CM10.1 has HDR, i love it more Pics look phenomenal on the S3.
And im waiting for my back account to increase for the 16GB SGH-M919
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
From my understanding there aren't any cards at the moment quick enough to serve the role efficiently. Just use it as an external storage until faster cards become available.
I was about to make a post concerning the best Micro SD cards do Moto Z Play, thanks for bringing that up!
I have a 128gb Samsung EVO micro sd, class 10, but it's 48mb/s and I got the same message you did, saying the card isn't fast enough and that the overall apps and system speeds could be slower.
I thought class 10 micro sd's were among the fastest and the Moto Z Play wouldn't have any trouble using it as an extension of it's internal storage, but as a matter of fact, there are indeed faster micro sds. After researching a little bit, I found Samsung EVOs with 80mb/s transfer speeds (the 48mb/s are colored orange, as the 80mb/s are little green ones):
I still haven't bought one, but I browsed through some forums and videos and people with the same problem said 80mb/s seems to do the trick and they didn't get any message complaining about the micro sd speed.
f you want even faster micro sds, try the Sandisk Extreme, with speeds up to 90mb/s:
I have to get a faster micro SD anyway, as soon as i do i'll post here my experience with it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!
While running the adopted 50 MB card AFT fails on most copy operations.
I am afraid ? that 2 times faster may not be enough for the already challenged ATF, buggy as it is already.
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My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
Jorgeprdz said:
How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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Just 12 not including the statusbar pro, which I cannot live without.
Better?
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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In my use case, adaptable storage doesn't make much sense on devices with 32gb or more of internal storage. Unless you really need that much space for app installs, the limitations outweigh the benefits. My typical app load is around 8 to 10gb, so I have somewhere around another 10 available on the MZP, as long as I pull all my media into an external card. This way I know all my apps are using fast internal storage, and I don't have to wonder if a widget is available or not. And I can pull the card and use it in a PC or other device.
Now my Moto E 2 (with 8gb onboard) is a different story. But I use a hybrid card in that - 20gb as adopted and the other 40 as external. May consider this as an option when I get around to getting a card for the MZP
I took a 32gb card and combined it. It warned me too. After reading up on the function, Android evaluates what to put where. Having the card separate made it less useful only good for photos and video really. This way app data can be buffered there. Things like cloud services buffer files internally. Netflix now uses SD but that was an issue too.
Bought a new micro SD for the Moto Z Play and it works perfectly with no warnings about it's speed being slow!
It's a Samsung PRO 64 GB microSDXC Card, with 90 MB/s reading speed and 80 MB/s writing speed.
As you insert the card and format it to be part of the phone's internal storage, the system doesn't complain about the card being too slow or that it'll affect the overall app and system speed.
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
Cheers! =)
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It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
So I am left to getting large music files from an external drive over OTG.
It is so much more reliable to drop the file right to the SD and move the card to the phone.
If the adopted card fails , you need a data wipe or an update screws it up, you have a bad phone day!
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
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Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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tag68 said:
Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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Is that only on snow?
I do have a snow partition for older programs.
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
Tell me more please, cause I hate ATF soooo much. Why does Android drop it's ball like this?
aviwdoowks said:
Is that only on snow?
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I'm quite sure that file sharing via smb: is available on nearly all versions of Windows and OSX.
You may start Windows file sharing in network settings of OSX. Then you can give access to some drive in Finder.
If you google a bit, you will find help I guess.
aviwdoowks said:
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
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Buy? Total Commander is free of cost, including all necessary plugins. For Windows file sharing (smb) you need the TC LAN plugin.
Edit: By "a bit slower" I meant because it usually is being used via WLAN in your intranet
Just wanted to post back here - finally got around to picking up an sd card for the MZP. Went with Samsung evo 128gb, $40 on Amazon. Since it's got plenty of space, I decided to go the same route that I did with the moto e, and do hybrid storage. Formatted 25% adopted and 75% external. Gives me an additional 30gb internal space and 90gb external storage.
Device sees the storage space fine. A couple apps I've messed with so far (Netflix and Google play music) can save to external fine, but don't recognize the additional available space in "internal", or at last don't report it as available.
I don't plan to move any apps that I use frequently or anything that I use widgets from to adopted, as the advertised max read speed is only 20mb/s. Haven't actually tested yet. But I did move a couple low use apps over. Reported storage space on both internal and adopted updated correctly (an issue I've had in the past).
So far, so good.
Hi guys...
If i buy the 128gb model have Samsung finally allowed the use of an SD card as adoptable storage yet?
If not is their a hack to enable this for this phone?
thanks in advance
nk33 said:
Hi guys...
If i buy the 128gb model have Samsung finally allowed the use of an SD card as adoptable storage yet?
If not is their a hack to enable this for this phone?
thanks in advance
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As far as I know adoptable storage was never fully implemented by Android. From what I understand the speed of the SD card is way slower then the internal storage so if you merge then together you end up with a weakest leak situation. Samsung's inclusion of adoptable storage is what made TouchWiz so darn laggy. For now it's still actually there but case by case. If you go to different app settings some will give you the option to move it to the SD card. And it's always be that way. Nothing new.
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As far as I know adoptable storage was never fully implemented by Android. From what I understand the speed of the SD card is way slower then the internal storage so if you merge then together you end up with a weakest leak situation. Samsung's inclusion of adoptable storage is what made TouchWiz so darn laggy. For now it's still actually there but case by case. If you go to different app settings some will give you the option to move it to the SD card. And it's always be that way. Nothing new.
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I am pretty sure adoptable storage on Android is a standard thing - since Android M.....its just Samsung that refused to implement it.
I do understand why they dont implement it - that's because if people use it the phone will lag and slow down sometimes when using apps whos data is stored on there - and samsung are worried they will get support calls regarding this and also it may reflect badly on the phone itself...
I currently own a razer phone 2 (RP1 previous to that), and previous to that all Samsung. The RP1 and 2 both support adoptable storage and as long as you purchase a high-speed sd card (not the standard ones) then adoptable storage works well
I want to buy the 512gb Ultra but they are out of stock everywher in the UK - so i thought an option would be to buy the 128gb as long as it supprts adoptable storage so i can "turn it into" a larger device storage
I know this an older thread, but with the speed of cards, I don't understand why an alternative to adoptable storage hasn't been developed. I had the Razer phone 2 with a Samsung EVO U10 512GB card and the phone was not noticbly slower in everyday tasks, but did slow when loading games and such. I still loved it, however, I think it was ditched by Samsung because people don't understand that once the card is adopted, removing it with the device on, renders all data on th card as corrupt, even upon reinsertion. Sometimes it's reclaim the card other times it wouldn't. Samsung tech support would be inundated with calls related to it so it was disabled. With the files sizes ballooning, 256GB should be the smallest storage available on a a premium phone and with the advances in storage, why isn't the OS determining what can and cannot go onto the SD card automatically?
I currently use APP2SD and while it moves the apps, I don't seem to be gaining that space back on the internal storage. Weird.
While not a strictly apples-to-apples comparison, I find fbind more flexible and largely superior to adoptable storage.
i will just wait until terabyte nand-flash ufs will be standard in even the cheapest smartphones. apps like firefox, aliexpress, amazon, google itself generate so much data it's horrible. i have to clear the data once every week. when you watch a movie with firefox for android and the movie is 1000 mb big, guess how much nand-flash will be used? you guessed correctly 1024 mb!
Adoptable storage is awesome - it works really well on all but Samsung.
Isnt there some way of using the external storage -
Its ridiculous that they build a tablet that has only 3GB storage free with a memory expansion slot that can hold memory but cannot be used by the system.
This device was a gift - will NEVER buy Samsung.