Impressions - Moto 360

Been playing with the watch for about an hour.
First boot:
Needs Android Wear and Moto Connect apps.
Downloads an update.
Needs to be around 80% before it can be used because it needs that battery to install the update.
Android Wear is Android Wear so all the swipes needed to get to things are here.
Size : Not bad at all. I thought it would be bigger but its a nice size. It depends on wrist size of course.
Band : Didn't seem like it is easily replaced. But I don't know a ton about watches. It seems to connect into the watch somewhere, that might be something standard though. Didn't look in the manual to see if there were instructions. (Edit : Included manual doesn't say anything. Site - www.motorola.com/mymoto360 - doesn't seem to be up where there is supposed to be a full user manual)
Battery : Way too early to tell, some drain right up front but there is a lot going on with syncing and all. Need to look at some Android Wear info to see how to get notifications beyond email and Google Now.
Charger : Comes with cable connected to the adapter. (Not a USB cable + Adapter). Screen dims while on charger. Button brightens the screen. Would be nice to see notifications on the charge screen.

Character Zero said:
Charger : Comes with cable connected to the adapter. (Not a USB cable + Adapter). Screen dims while on charger. Button brightens the screen. Would be nice to see notifications on the charge screen.
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Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg

Jonny said:
Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg
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The connection on the base is MicroUSB. So a USB can connect to it. But the charger that comes with the Phone is all one piece (not a seperate AC Adapter and USB cable). It is outputting 5V at 550ma.

Character Zero said:
The connection on the base is MicroUSB. So a USB can connect to it. But the charger that comes with the Phone is all one piece (not a seperate AC Adapter and USB cable). It is outputting 5V at 550ma.
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Gotcha, cheers. So looks like PC connectivity would go through the charging cradle. Curious to know if the inductive charging standard they adhere to allows data transfer as well... Motorola must have had some way to debug it when creating firmware etc.

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Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg
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Jonny said:
Gotcha, cheers. So looks like PC connectivity would go through the charging cradle. Curious to know if the inductive charging standard they adhere to allows data transfer as well... Motorola must have had some way to debug it when creating firmware etc.
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The other end of the charger is attached to the plug in, so far I don't see a way to connect to PC.

EVOme said:
The other end of the charger is attached to the plug in, so far I don't see a way to connect to PC.
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Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.

Jonny said:
Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.
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Hmm, yeah I'm curious about that. I'm not really sure if there is way to transfer inductive data.

PsychDrummer said:
Hmm, yeah I'm curious about that. I'm not really sure if there is way to transfer inductive data.
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I think I remember reading a while ago that it was planned in other, less well known inductive charging standards, but I'm not sure if the current standard of Qi changing has it.

Jonny said:
I think I remember reading a while ago that it was planned in other, less well known inductive charging standards, but I'm not sure if the current standard of Qi changing has it.
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Someone on reddit mentioned adb over bluetooth. Maybe it's that.

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Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.
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That would mean it would transfer data via bluetooth from the PC. I'm not seeing it connect like that. There would have to be another method.

Thanks for providing pictures and giving some insight for what to expect!
Could someone who has the watch please snap a pic of where the strap connects to the body?

I believe Qi does have data. But it is limited to 2kbps and is used for basic communication.

Dusty Rhodes said:
Thanks for providing pictures and giving some insight for what to expect!
Could someone who has the watch please snap a pic of where the strap connects to the body?
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Does anyone know how the band actually comes off yet?

It seems like you would pop the back off somehow.

Actually seeing how the strap connects to the watch, and seeing exactly what the deal is with the metal straps, is like trying to solve a National mystery. I swear, the Illuminati are laughing at me, wringing their hands, and saying to themselves, "...And you will never know, DUSTY.".

Dusty Rhodes said:
Actually seeing how the strap connects to the watch, and seeing exactly what the deal is with the metal straps, is like trying to solve a National mystery.
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There was a picture of the metal band and it looked like the connecter was non-standard. Like the end was a bit longer. Seems like they could have put some kind of door so you could switch out the bands easier. There has to be a way if they are going to have both leather and metal band versions. And in the Verge interview it seemed like they were planning on having options.
So far my only complaint is just with Android Wear. Like swiping away a gmail from the clock but then wanting to bring it up later. Seems like once it is swiped, that card is gone.
Metal band picture from the 22mm band thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55268623&postcount=11

Dead Pixel
Drove all over North Atlanta and got the VERY LAST ONE with the Grey strap...everything seemed cool except for a DEAD PIXEL but I have my receipt and am hoping for an exchange whenever restock hits the stores.
One more thing to note...the device had like 35% charge which allowed me to pair to my Nexus 5 but then started displaying a charge battery notice.
I like the Motorola app that gives me a quick update on the current charge levels...connected to my Energizer QI pad so I think that I will just ditch the cradle charger that it came with unless I travel.
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Drove all over North Atlanta and got the VERY LAST ONE with the Grey strap...everything seemed cool except for a DEAD PIXEL but I have my receipt and am hoping for an exchange whenever restock hits the stores.
One more thing to note...the device had like 35% charge which allowed me to pair to my Nexus 5 but then started displaying a charge battery notice.
I like the Motorola app that gives me a quick update on the current charge levels...connected to my Energizer QI pad so I think that I will just ditch the cradle charger that it came with unless I travel.
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UPDATE: Figured that this may have been a crappy unit...the dead pixel is still there but I did a factory reset and it is downloading an update. When I unboxed and I first turned it on it seemed like it was having issues from the get go...now it seems to be running smooth like a champ albeit 1 bad pixel.

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UPDATE: Figured that this may have been a crappy unit...the dead pixel is still there but I did a factory reset and it is downloading an update. When I unboxed and I first turned it on it seemed like it was having issues from the get go...now it seems to be running smooth like a champ albeit 1 bad pixel.
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They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.

Phlip00ws6 said:
They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.
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Sorry man and not to turn this into any tech support forum but just want to confirm that even if the battery got charged to like 65% there was no way to get past the "Charge your battery" screen unless it is either fully charged or charged to a certain capacity?
I did a factory reset and was able to get to the part where it downloaded an update again, rebooted and then immediately came up to that screen which can't be dismissed. The unit is pretty warm so I have placed it on the dock and will check every hour to see how if fairs...just frustrating that it couldn't even start. I am contemplating getting a refund and seeing how others react to everyday usage. I say this based on the fact that you go to the Moto 360 support site and it doesnt have anything under Help Topics...even after you login with a G+ acct or a Motorola acct.
I understand that statistically 1 out of every 100,000 may be the defect and if that is the case then it is what it is...was really hoping to test out a physical watch finally for an app instead of an emulator.
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Phlip00ws6 said:
They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.
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And BTW thank you very much for your help! Patience will be a virtue in this case.

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My dock! (WIP) Landscape

I started making a dock, I hope to add pogo pin functionality!
Neat! Should look good once its done. Id love to see how pogo pins would look with this.
Yeah Im not sure how Im going to do it with this phone, I just got it yesterday. I set the dock up so the pogo pins were on the down side though, Ill add a picture
does anyone know the distance between the pogopins?
3mm. Check elleshoo's verizon dock conversion. He has pics showing micrometer measurements.
okay so Im trying to make some pins to charge it with but I cannot get it to charge. To test I put some of the positive wire on the bottom pad and some of the ground on the top but it doesnt start charger, I know there is a current running through. Anyone have some idea?
Well, when things don't seem right, we gotta go through the dummy checks and eliminate the obvious.
Is it actually not working. Because you aren't triggering the digital handshake on the middle pin, nothing special is going to happen, you will only get a normal battery charge animation on the notification bar. You can also check in battery settings, but this updates even slower. Best way is to change brightness settings so that the screen is 100% when on power. Then you can see easily when you make good contact.
Plugged in? Confirm outlet has power by charging another device.
Are the wires you've been cutting continuous? Take a multimeter Vdc reading between them (should see about 5 Vdc).
Good contact? Make sure the wires core conductors are touching the phone's pad, and not the shield or insulator. Even some kinds of bare wire have a clear insulator coating the outside of the copper.
Lastly, is the polarity right? Check the other way! Also, be sure you are using the 2 outer pins, and not the middle.
If you are getting 5Vdc to the pads, the phone should draw a USB charge. If it isn't, we will need to start looking at either the kernel, or your hardware.
Hope this helps.
BTW, I added your project to the DIY Workshop thread, and will upgrade it when its working. We love tinkerers around here!
Also, wait 10 to 20 seconds to see if it's charging. Without the proper handshake on the middle pogo pin, it takes a while to recognize charge on any ROM but stock.
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Also, wait 10 to 20 seconds to see if it's charging. Without the proper handshake on the middle pogo pin, it takes a while to recognize charge on any ROM but stock.
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What you mean is the charge is instant even without the middle pin on stock Google ROM?
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What you mean is the charge is instant even without the middle pin on stock Google ROM?
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I can confirm that it is NOT instant. I made my own pogo dock and I always leave my devices stock, and it takes at least 10 seconds to start charging.
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redthunda69 said:
I can confirm that it is NOT instant. I made my own pogo dock and I always leave my devices stock, and it takes at least 10 seconds to start charging.
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Hmmm, thanks for clearing up my doubt.
Anyway, it's 9s to be exact.
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Hmmm, thanks for clearing up my doubt.
Anyway, it's 9s to be exact.
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I stand corrected.
It feels like longer. Especially when you are low on battery and driving blind. Luckily this is a desktop project.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29169310#post29169310
I just posted details on the circuit I built to control the phone's modes via the middle pogo pin. The circuit has DIP switch selectors to allow you to choose between desk/car dock, USB/AC charging, and audio out on/off. Use this and there's next to no delay on the phone going into charge mode.
cool!
zuberio said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29169310#post29169310
I just posted details on the circuit I built to control the phone's modes via the middle pogo pin. The circuit has DIP switch selectors to allow you to choose between desk/car dock, USB/AC charging, and audio out on/off. Use this and there's next to no delay on the phone going into charge mode.
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I'm lazy in making it work
Anyway how do you program the IC, i may get my lazy arse off the ground and start doing it
Mach3.2 said:
I'm lazy in making it work
Anyway how do you program the IC, i may get my lazy arse off the ground and start doing it
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http://hlt.media.mit.edu/?p=1695 I did it with an Arduino Uno
Nice work
Hey sorry Ive been super busy, but I tried to make the pins and I dont think they are making contact. Also thanks for letting me know that it takes so long to start charging. Hopefully I can get around to fixing the pins soon, but for now I need to finish my desk (been dragging it out for months). Thanks for all the help everyone!

Wireless Charging Device for M7 ?

Wireless charging will become a nice feature of smart phone and if there is a device to support this ?
it is aluminium. So, no.
You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
You could always open up that sexy looking One and retro fit a wireless charging system into the phone. You handy with a dremel?
Reckless187 said:
You could always open up that sexy looking One and retro fit a wireless charging system into the phone. You handy with a dremel?
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useless so far .
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You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
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To some a nice convenience, to others a stupid gimmick...
MG
voltron2k11 said:
You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
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Disagree strongly. When it works well (Lumia 920) it is awesome. I love just setting it down and not having to deal with micro USB when I go to bed/wake up in the dark. It is by no means a "must have" feature, but it is really nice.
However on the Nexus 4 it is easier to deal with the Micro-usb than having to have the phone perfectly on the pad and if it moves at all it stops charging.
You can't lie down and use your phone when it's charging. Otherwise, when you are up, you don't need anything wireless to charge. Are you that lazy to plug a little cable?
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You can't lie down and use your phone when it's charging. Otherwise, when you are up, you don't need anything wireless to charge. Are you that lazy to plug a little cable?
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It is a hassle to plug in and unplug the phone to microusb in the dark, that is what I am saying. Nothing to do with lazy or using it while plugged in.
Personally I hate microusb, in the dark it is impossible to tell which direction it goes and always feels like it is going to break.
I use my phone as my alarm so I keep a Microusb on my nightstand so I can plug it in when I go to bed (and likewise unplug it when the alarm is going off) and with the Lumia 920 it was nice to not have to deal with it, that is what I am saying.
Like I said it is not a "must have" feature, but it is MOST DEFINITELY far more convenient.
If you can't understand that I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to endlessly defend old technology because YOU don't care about wireless charging. Is it necessary, must have, or vital.. most definitely not. But it IS better and more convenient, for some of us more than others.
I didn't mean to offend you, sorry
I get what you mean, i still find it useless. I accept, other people might find it useful.
I guess some of you don't have inquisitive, destructive cats. Cords have become the bane of my existence. My phone ends up on the ground every morning if I forget to put it in my nightstand drawer. Never used a device that supports wireless charging, but it definitely wouldn't hurt...
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I guess some of you don't have inquisitive, destructive cats. Cords have become the bane of my existence. My phone ends up on the ground every morning if I forget to put it in my nightstand drawer. Never used a device that supports wireless charging, but it definitely wouldn't hurt...
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yes this is another feature I left out, My cat LOVES the cord, he could care less about the phone. He didn't bother my 920 on the pad once, leave the phone on a cord and I wake up to my phone hanging off my nightstand. :crying:
Of course if he saw the cord going to the pad then I would find my phone on the floor.
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Dharkan said:
I didn't mean to offend you, sorry
I get what you mean, i still find it useless. I accept, other people might find it useful.
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Fair enough . I'm not trying to convince anyone that it is useful for everyone . I just wanted to explain my enjoyment for the technology, as not to be misinterpreted for laziness :silly:
crawlgsx said:
yes this is another feature I left out, My cat LOVES the cord, he could care less about the phone. He didn't bother my 920 on the pad once, leave the phone on a cord and I wake up to my phone hanging off my nightstand. :crying:
Of course if he saw the cord going to the pad then I would find my phone on the floor.
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Oh yeah, my outlet is like right next to the ground, so playing with the cord means knocking the phone onto the ground. Maybe I should take precautions and move it up to the ceiling.
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Oh yeah, my outlet is like right next to the ground, so playing with the cord means knocking the phone onto the ground. Maybe I should take precautions and move it up to the ceiling.
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That could work!
Get a docking station.
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greentaloy said:
Wireless charging will become a nice feature of smart phone and if there is a device to support this ?
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Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 supports wireless charging and the upcoming S4 also have the function of wireless charging.It is a nice feature, but in fact, it takes extra costs for the wireless charger.
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To some a nice convenience, to others a stupid gimmick...
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+1. Plugging in and removing the microusb causes wear. While I've never had an issue in the past, there are plenty of stories of failed. I'm hoping that Mophie adopts wireless charging and incorporates it into their battery case.
if any of you guys ever had a palm pre with a touchstone, you would understand why he wants it. wear and tear on the microusb is a big enough deal if you keep a phone for at least 24 months. if you are going to power upgrade constantly then its not worth it
I had the DNA for a time with the wireless charger and I really liked it. When home the cell phone is always just on the desk in the office. Anytime I got a call or text or just wanted to check something out or leave, you just grab the phone and then just set it down when done. I also just use a cloth draw string bag with the phone so when home I could just pull the phone out and set it on the charger without taking it out of the bag. I'd love to install a pad for the car too. I wish the One had it.
Pretty disappointed that this phone didn't have wireless charging built in. I assume the aluminum may have something to do with it, but still.
I've gotten so used to the convenience of wireless charging that using a USB cord for power just seems silly. Its such a convenience that I try and make sure phones I purchase have it built in (starting with the Lumia 920, and now the Droid DNA).
Oh well, maybe on the HTC One 2.

Micro USB port charging issues

This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
nymviper1126 said:
This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
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You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
At night I use a 1A Samsung phone charger and it works too for overnight.
I too have noticed that when plugged into PC no charge
you'll get a charge, but it'll be a trickle. it won't show the charging icon, but it'll charge as long as you don't use it. i think it's about 8hrs or more to completely charge via 500mA usb. i believe a custom kernel could be tweaked to squeeze 900mA out of usb 2.0.
niceiceman said:
You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
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yes correct
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yes correct
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actually, it's incorrect. you can charge from a computer as i've stated. all samsung tablets will it's just gonna take alll day to do so.
just about every tablet and phone will charge off of a computer usb por, but it's just gonna take a loooooonnnngg time. great when you're in a pinch and need a bit of juice.
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This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
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Are you talking about using the device as its charging, or simply moving it (with screen off) while its connected to the charger? If charging is interrupted just by slight movement, I would suspect a loose MicroUSB port, or a damaged charger or cord. Try a different charger (any MicroUSB charge should work). And if the problem persists, return the tablet. A loose port is not easily fixable, and is going to only get worse.
Hmm I think it's not an issue, you really have a slow charge when you use try it using your pc. Try a real charger, it'll charge fast :highfive:
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Are you talking about using the device as its charging, or simply moving it (with screen off) while its connected to the charger? If charging is interrupted just by slight movement, I would suspect a loose MicroUSB port, or a damaged charger or cord. Try a different charger (any MicroUSB charge should work). And if the problem persists, return the tablet. A loose port is not easily fixable, and is going to only get worse.
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I understand how to charge the device. It has been a loose port. All 3 i have had have had this problem, to varying degrees.
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You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
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Obviously, where did I say i used a computer? The port is microUSB.
nymviper1126 said:
I understand how to charge the device. It has been a loose port. All 3 i have had have had this problem, to varying degrees.
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
i've only had one and the microusb port is fine on mine. i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it. one thing i've noticed about all the samsung musb cables are that they're short nibbed. do you have a case or something that may be interfering around the musb port and not allowing it to "click" in?
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
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They may have all come from the same defective batch. I've seen cases where a person got multiple devices (other Android devices) with the same defect. Seems improbable, but apparently possible.
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i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it.
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The cable what came with the Note 8? If so, that does not sound normal to me. Mine fits snugly and securely.
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Obviously, where did I say i used a computer? The port is microUSB.
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Your OP was pretty brief, and did not state the charge method. So that person was just throwing out a possible case/solution based on the information provided; given it was based on an incorrect assumption.
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They may have all come from the same defective batch. I've seen cases where a person got multiple devices (other Android devices) with the same defect. Seems improbable, but apparently possible.
The cable what came with the Note 8? If so, that does not sound normal to me. Mine fits snugly and securely.
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Your OP was pretty brief, and did not state the charge method. So that person was just throwing out a possible case/solution based on the information provided; given it was based on an incorrect assumption.
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Yep, they have all done it, it mainly happens when i do something like lay down while charging the device. Go and try moving the plug slighlty and ull see it wont be charging. I had my OG note do the same thing, but that was after years. While the plug goes in deep, there is too much play with the port. Ive read others have too, and this is three straight so no fluke. Yes, the cable supplied, or any of the dozens i have for my devices.
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
i've only had one and the microusb port is fine on mine. i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it. one thing i've noticed about all the samsung musb cables are that they're short nibbed. do you have a case or something that may be interfering around the musb port and not allowing it to "click" in?
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Its normally fine if its laying flat(though ive plugged it in at night, only to realize in am that it was NOT in fully), but tryying to use the device in landscape while charging moves the cable too much
well, i know it's not any help but mine does work perfectly. i've held and rotated my tablet many times while on the charger (rotating make the galaxy charging app refresh without having that annoying pop up after a certain amount of refreshes - seems to be a useless program as the numbers don't match up with the charging time or what battery monitor widget says on any samsung tablet or phone i have).
maybe i'm just a lucky one?
madsquabbles said:
well, i know it's not any help but mine does work perfectly. i've held and rotated my tablet many times while on the charger
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Yeah, I just tried that and it didn't seem to affect my Note's charging.
I've had (or currently have) the HTC Evo, S2, S3, S4, and Note 8. My GF has the S3 and Note 8 and her mom has the Note 8 as well. None of our devices have any issues with the USB port. Generally speaking, problems with the USB port stem from improper use.
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i am to facing this issue
Bluetech765 said:
i am to facing this issue
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I just got the BrownBlack one, same thing. If i move the plug to the left, no charge. Granted, its worse with some cables, but the one i have at work i have no problem wiggling around with my N1
So this make four(4) N8.0 with the same issue. Cannot be the same batch, considering one is a newer color.

Car install Questions

Hello XDA members and fellow nexus 7 owners!
After reading these forums for months or even years i decided to get a Nexus 7 2013 myself. It took me a long time since they are not being sold that much in the Netherlands.
Upcoming Tuesday it will be shipped and i can not wait to be able and install it in the car.
Setup? ---- I am going to run the nexus 7 together with my 1 din car radio. Which means i wont be using a dac or anything else just spotify over bluetooth to the car stereo and that is it.
The only addition i would like to have is a backup cam since i am terrible at parking... go ask my rear bumper he will show it.
Now i know about rooting and all that but i would like to know which camera to buy. I have seen people using a easycap and i can get one on ebay. But which setup are you running or do you recommend me to get? Any ebay or aliexpress links will be appreciated. This way i can buy the stuff and know it will surely work.
And yeah i been searching through forum and reddit. But everyone is using a different setup of rom and hardware which just makes it confusing. I already have the usb otg cable and thats basically it.
Thanks in advance!
Prepare for a world of hurt. You'd need to find a real UVC adapter then start the app each time you want to back up.
UVC and EasyCap are terrible for start up times, 4 seconds to show on mine. Oh, EasyCap drivers aren't in the system by default, the need to be installed and loaded on boot with a script.
The latest thing on the Timur's forum was to use a USB camera. Problem with that for me was they're housing are terrible. not suited for cars at all.
fr4nk1yn said:
Prepare for a world of hurt. You'd need to find a real UVC adapter then start the app each time you want to back up.
UVC and EasyCap are terrible for start up times, 4 seconds to show on mine. Oh, EasyCap drivers aren't in the system by default, the need to be installed and loaded on boot with a script.
The latest thing on the Timur's forum was to use a USB camera. Problem with that for me was they're housing are terrible. not suited for cars at all.
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thanks alot for your reply! i decided not to do the cam install as i been reading alot of issues indeed! My nexus 7 was delivered today. Now im just having issues with charging in car and how to do that. I think the 2.1a car charger i have should be able to keep it at 100. Since it keeps my phone galaxy s8+ at 100 using navigation spotify and such
shurensly95 said:
thanks alot for your reply! i decided not to do the cam install as i been reading alot of issues indeed! My nexus 7 was delivered today. Now im just having issues with charging in car and how to do that. I think the 2.1a car charger i have should be able to keep it at 100. Since it keeps my phone galaxy s8+ at 100 using navigation spotify and such
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Prepare for a world o... I already said that didn't I?
Are you using this in car only? The problem is the tablet can use power faster than it can charge, especially when using navigation.
Mine was fine for about a year then it started not keeping a charge. I did the battery removal mod and couldn't be happier.
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Prepare for a world o... I already said that didn't I?
Are you using this in car only? The problem is the tablet can use power faster than it can charge, especially when using navigation.
Mine was fine for about a year then it started not keeping a charge. I did the battery removal mod and couldn't be happier.
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I just dont understand how that battery removal mod works. Or what i should do to achieve the same thing. Not really a genius with eletrical work unless i see pictures of everything then it is easy ofcourse.
Seems like no one in holland has this lmao. O yeah and here its only 1 week hot outside like 30C max so i dont know if its needed.
It's not so much a heat thing as the battery will drain in use. It simply can't charge fast enough. I had the problem even through winter.
I guess I left out the part where I should've mentioned to use it with the battery and see if there's an issue.
There's info but not great info on the removal mod. It's straight forward but it need "large" wiring and a power supply over 1.8amps.
Hook everything up, without installing right away, and get a feel for it. All the little details will show itself.
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It's not so much a heat thing as the battery will drain in use. It simply can't charge fast enough. I had the problem even through winter.
I guess I left out the part where I should've mentioned to use it with the battery and see if there's an issue.
There's info but not great info on the removal mod. It's straight forward but it need "large" wiring and a power supply over 1.8amps.
Hook everything up, without installing right away, and get a feel for it. All the little details will show itself.
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Again you are so right! I have had the car install now some days and it drains more than it charges xD the gps is also bad which sucks. But using waze it goes into -200 mA and with only spotify on and no navigation to +150 mA. I will really need to check that battery removal mod. How did you do that? do you have some old pics laying around or a scheme? I even tested 2 new car chargers i bought 24w 4.8a and neither that keeps it charging pfft. And this with medium settings on screen brightness
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Again you are so right! I have had the car install now some days and it drains more than it charges xD the gps is also bad which sucks. But using waze it goes into -200 mA and with only spotify on and no navigation to +150 mA. I will really need to check that battery removal mod. How did you do that? do you have some old pics laying around or a scheme? I even tested 2 new car chargers i bought 24w 4.8a and neither that keeps it charging pfft. And this with medium settings on screen brightness
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What do you mean "GPS sucks?" As it doesn't lock on satellites, or it just drains the battery more?
The battery removal mod is pretty straight forward.
You'll need an adjustable 12v power supply that puts out over 2 amps adjusted to 4.4v. This is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C0KL1OM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Find an old power supply you have lying around, like for a router, and use those wires. If they're too thin the tablet will be unstable.
I'd probably look for an extra battery online in case you want to revert. And this is the part photos are needed.
I'm having problems finding the ones I saw when I did it. I'll look some more and if I can't find them I'mm take some myself the weekend.
It just involves separating the battery from it's controller and soldering the voltage regulator in place of the battery. The ground has to connected to one of the tiny black wires at the controllers connector and it's done.
I wired the voltage regulator into my radio's constant power supply and I still use a charger to the micro USB to turn it on and off.
-edit: oh yeah. here's the video from the guy that discovered the mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N2Bh4fI8Bo
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What do you mean "GPS sucks?" As it doesn't lock on satellites, or it just drains the battery more?
The battery removal mod is pretty straight forward.
You'll need an adjustable 12v power supply that puts out over 2 amps adjusted to 4.4v. This is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C0KL1OM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Find an old power supply you have lying around, like for a router, and use those wires. If they're too thin the tablet will be unstable.
I'd probably look for an extra battery online in case you want to revert. And this is the part photos are needed.
I'm having problems finding the ones I saw when I did it. I'll look some more and if I can't find them I'mm take some myself the weekend.
It just involves separating the battery from it's controller and soldering the voltage regulator in place of the battery. The ground has to connected to one of the tiny black wires at the controllers connector and it's done.
I wired the voltage regulator into my radio's constant power supply and I still use a charger to the micro USB to turn it on and off.
-edit: oh yeah. here's the video from the guy that discovered the mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N2Bh4fI8Bo
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Thanks again for your reply. I just checked that video it seems doable.
With gps i ment the lock on satellites. I found someone who was using a kind of re radiator if that is what it is called and im thinking of buying one.
I think i will just start soldering and doing that battery removal trick. Do you think i could do it and just plug it into a anker car charger? It is 5v 2.4a each slot. This is the one https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerdrive-2-ports/A2310012
Or should i go for a dc to dc regulator as you have? I have currently 3 of those car chargers laying around all different brands but same watts.
Here's a photo someone else posted just the other day. The second wire is ran better than I did: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76554736&postcount=464
I use a 5v supply when I work on my tablet in the house, but I've heard 5v could cause problems with the tablet not recognizing when power is connected to the micro usb.
My GPS was terrible at first. Long lock times, if it locked, would drop satellites spontaneously then come right back. I even bought an external USB receiver. Then it just started working.
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Here's a photo someone else posted just the other day. The second wire is ran better than I did: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76554736&postcount=464
I use a 5v supply when I work on my tablet in the house, but I've heard 5v could cause problems with the tablet not recognizing when power is connected to the micro usb.
My GPS was terrible at first. Long lock times, if it locked, would drop satellites spontaneously then come right back. I even bought an external USB receiver. Then it just started working.
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I guess there is just 1 way to find out if the car charger works hehehe i will give it a shot see what i manage to do. Still looking for a housing or anything to mount the tablet in for my car a renault megane II from 2003. Seems like i will have to mold and fiberglass it.

Wireless Charging Pads.. Got any that work..

I have used the same old charge pads that I used too, and none of them work.
Does anyone have a combo that works, and could link them or help me out? Please..
TIA
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I have used the same old charge pads that I used too, and none of them work.
Does anyone have a combo that works, and could link them or help me out? Please..
TIA
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Wait? Why are you looking for wireless charging pads for a phone that doesn't have wireless charging?
A50 does not support wireless charging. You need a glass back for wireless charging to be possible. The A50 has a plastic back.
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A50 does not support wireless charging. You need a glass back for wireless charging to be possible. The A50 has a plastic back.
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Not quite right. It just can't be metal. Plastic works for wireless charging, but the A50 doesn't have wireless charging built in. (You need a charging coil for that.)
There are charging coils you can connect to the charging port to add wireless charging to a phone. I suppose the original question is if anyone knows of any of these that work with the A50.
Here's an example: Link (Don't know if this works with A50 by the way.)
Yeah I've seen those before, been thinking about getting one myself but I'd probably just break it lol, plus I'd like to take my case of now n then
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No reason why it wouldn't work though... Unless you had a metal case... Which you most likely don't, but plastic is finee for wireless charging.
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Wait? Why are you looking for wireless charging pads for a phone that doesn't have wireless charging. ?
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If you have never added wireless charging to a phone, thats OK, especially if you are new.
If you read that I looking for a combo that worked, it might become apparent that there is something going here you might not now about.
Laughing at me because because I was short and to the point, doesn't really help. Nor liking your own post too..
So its quite possible to add charging to this phone. Any phone. You add a coil with your charge socket type, and add it to your device. Place on a charge pad, and you are away.
Just so you know...
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If you have never added wireless charging to a phone, thats OK, especially if you are new.
If you read that I looking for a combo that worked, it might become apparent that there is something going here you might not now about.
Laughing at me because because I was short and to the point, doesn't really help. Nor liking your own post too..
So its quite possible to add charging to this phone. Any phone. You add a coil with your charge socket type, and add it to your device. Place on a charge pad, and you are away.
Just so you know...
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I liked my own post? Can you even do that?
Also, if you read my other comment you'll see that I was aware you can do this and have thought about in the past ?
It just wasn't clear what you were saying that's all; sorry for miss understanding you ??
This guy liked it, not me ?
This one seems like a good option, it allows you to charge it wired without having to take out the wireless charging coil's cable, andd the charger is magnetic, however this also means it is not usb c and your existing usb c chargers won't work unless you unplug the wireless charging coil. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MLRD1TD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zMeEDbG6PW858

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