Ok so whnat seems to happen is you can keep it always on if you keep it in an upright position but if the watch tilts to the side it will sometimes turn off. I cant say this is for sure when it turns off but it is not consistent. Sometimes the screen will stay on sometimes it will turn off.
It dims but it's still on.. Seems like a good implementation to me. Im sure it wont be long and we'll have an app that can keep the backlight on if that's what you want.
When I first powered the device on, I looked in settings and found the option to keep the screen always on. However, after I updated the firmware, that option turned into the ambient light sensor option...
So it looks like they disabled that function in the current rom
The screen does turn off if the device doesn't move at all, but even the slightest movement turns the dimmed watch face back on.
that doesn't sound good
for the other 2 Wear watches, the screen always on setting had to be changed through the companion app on the phone
could someone of you please check if that switch is still there and what it does on the Moto 360
would be great, thanks!
2k4ever said:
that doesn't sound good
for the other 2 Wear watches, the screen always on setting had to be changed through the companion app on the phone
could someone of you please check if that switch is still there and what it does on the Moto 360
would be great, thanks!
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I think this is a bug with the 360. If you set ambient screen on, then the screen will go into a dimmed always on mode. It will stay on forever if the watch is kept in certain positions. For example, if you hold the watch vertically, it will stay on forever. But the screen goes blank if the watch is held in certain other positions. It seems to. Me like if it gets into a sideways like position akin to the way it sits in the charger, the screen will go blank.
I can't imagine this is intended behavior. Anyone seeing anything different?
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
Edit - I've been testing the orientations.. Here are the positions that the screen is on and off:
ON - Any orientation where the face is correctly orientated and readable from the users perspective its on.
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OFF techically the watch is sideways so you wouldnt be reading the time.
OFF Same as previous just rotated 180 degrees
OFF Upside down
ON Flat on the table - it's always on
*These results are the same regardless of movement.
Phlip00ws6 said:
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
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Thanks.. Do you know for a fact that this is intended behavior? Has Motorola explained anywhere how this is intended to work? It is different from ever other android wear device.
olc said:
Thanks.. Do you know for a fact that this is intended behavior? Has Motorola explained anywhere how this is intended to work? It is different from ever other android wear device.
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I would say this is definately the intended behavior. My guess is that in order to get the 12 hours they had to do this. Its kind of like a V8 sports car that wont pass minimum MPG and the manufacturer was required to install a "shift skip" essentially locking you out of 2nd and 3rd gear while putting around town to get that minimun MPG.
thanks Phlip00ws6!
could you tell us why part of the watch display looks gray in the 3 OFF photos?
Seems too regular for camera flash or other light sources / reflections and if the screen really is off, it shouldnd interfere with the camera
maybe there really is a bug?
2k4ever said:
thanks Phlip00ws6!
could you tell us why part of the watch display looks gray in the 3 OFF photos?
Seems too regular for camera flash or other light sources / reflections and if the screen really is off, it shouldnd interfere with the camera
maybe there really is a bug?
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That's just the reflection of my wall. lol sorry about that. It's completely off.
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That's just the reflection of my wall. lol sorry about that. It's completely off.
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thanks for the clarification, seemed too regular to be a reflection, but was hard to tell in the small pictures
I don't have one yet so I may be wrong about this but wouldn't it make much more sense for the the light sensor to adjust the screen brightness whenever you flick your wrist or tap the screen to wake it up? This would surely improve the battery life, especially if you're in a dim environment for an extended period of time.
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I don't have one yet so I may be wrong about this but wouldn't it make much more sense for the the light sensor to adjust the screen brightness whenever you flick your wrist or tap the screen to wake it up? This would surely improve the battery life, especially if you're in a dim environment for an extended period of time.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.. Are you referencing while ambient mode is on or off?
In either case, when you move your wrist up as you would with any other watch, the screen turns fully on and its bightness is adjusted via the light sensor. The only difference ambient mode makes is that when the watch is visible to the user, it is on but dimmed. Any other time e.g the watch is facing away from you, then the screen is off.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.. Are you referencing while ambient mode is on or off?
In either case, when you move your wrist up as you would with any other watch, the screen turns fully on and its bightness is adjusted via the light sensor. The only difference ambient mode makes is that when the watch is visible to the user, it is on but dimmed. Any other time e.g the watch is facing away from you, then the screen is off.
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Oh, from what I'd read I was under the impression that the backlight level wasn't always adjusted by the light sensor. If it is then great.
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Oh, from what I'd read I was under the impression that the backlight level wasn't always adjusted by the light sensor. If it is then great.
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Technically it's not always updated. There seems to be 3 different "modes" to the watch face - on, off, and ambient mode. It's kind of hard to explain, but while the screen is in ambient mode it has one setting.. dim. But it still reacts to that "looking at my watch now" movement, turns the screen to fully on (second hand begins to move, notifications are displayed), and then the light sensor will adjust accordingly. So if the watch is laying flat on a table outside in bright sunlight the screen will be on but you wont be able to see it.
So in summary, no it doesnt respond to light while in ambient mode. Which does seem to contradict the point of it being so accurate at knowing when the watch face is visible. I could see if the face always stayed on regardless, then maybe the sensor shouldn't adjust it because theres no reason for the brightness to be all the way up if you're not looking at it.
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Technically it's not always updated. There seems to be 3 different "modes" to the watch face - on, off, and ambient mode. It's kind of hard to explain, but while the screen is in ambient mode it has one setting.. dim. But it still reacts to that "looking at my watch now" movement, turns the screen to fully on (second hand begins to move, notifications are displayed), and then the light sensor will adjust accordingly. So if the watch is laying flat on a table outside in bright sunlight the screen will be on but you wont be able to see it.
So in summary, no it doesnt respond to light while in ambient mode. Which does seem to contradict the point of it being so accurate at knowing when the watch face is visible. I could see if the face always stayed on regardless, then maybe the sensor shouldn't adjust it because theres no reason for the brightness to be all the way up if you're not looking at it.
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Its so weird what they have done with the brightness settings in Android Wear. There is a reason we are using Android devices vs iOS devices. The openness of the software and the customizations that come along with it. We need to have the choice of how we want our device setup.
I personally would like to have my watch screen on all the time on full brightness. Why is there no option for this? On my G Watch, im constantly having to turn my wrist further towards myself than i normally would or tap the screen to get it bright enough where i can see it properly. Due to this i'm probably going to hold off on my 360 purchase until its fixed.
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Its so weird what they have done with the brightness settings in Android Wear. There is a reason we are using Android devices vs iOS devices. The openness of the software and the customizations that come along with it. We need to have the choice of how we want our device setup.
I personally would like to have my watches screen on all the time on full brightness. Why is there no option for this? On my G Watch, im constantly having to turn my wrist further towards myself than i normally would or tap the screen to get it bright enough where i can see it properly.
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Patience.. let the devs do what they do. Wear is open source, just like all Android OS's - This is why we are using Android devices vs iOS devices.
Phlip00ws6 said:
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
Edit - I've been testing the orientations.. Here are the positions that the screen is on and off:
ON - Any orientation where the face is correctly orientated and readable from the users perspective its on.
OFF techically the watch is sideways so you wouldnt be reading the time.
OFF Same as previous just rotated 180 degrees
OFF Upside down
ON Flat on the table - it's always on
*These results are the same regardless of movement.
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Thank you. Now I understand how it work's
My 360 is dead when it comes to ambient mode or waking up to wrist movement/orientation changes.
This happened after some weeks of no wear, clearly something going on here as there's several reports of this around forums.
Factory reset a few times, so suspect hardware or software version issue (5.0.1).
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Has anyone noticed ambient screen mode working differently since the update, or is it just me? With all the talk about better battery life, I thought I'd try keeping ambient mode on to see what kind of battery life I'd get. I didn't regularly use ambient mode before the update, but I did play around with it. Before the update, it seemed that the watch stayed dimly lit (ambient mode) most of the time while wearing it, but bringing my wrist up would make the screen come fully on. Now, it seems like it goes completely off immediately when I drop my wrist, and when I raise it, it lights up dimly in ambient mode, and I actually have to touch it to get the fully-on mode. It does seem to be more sensitive and reliable coming (dimly) on in ambient mode than it is in non-ambient mode, but still, in bright light conditions, it means I actually have to touch it before I can even see it (or use it).
Am I the only one seeing this?
Nothing changed, that's the way it's always worked
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Are you sure? I don't remember it being that way, and if that were the case, Ambient mode would be BETTER for battery life than regular mode, because the 360 goes off just as fast as regular mode, and won't come fully on unless you actually touch it. When I played around with it before, I'm positive it would come fully-on when I raised my wrist. Now it never will.
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Has anyone noticed ambient screen mode working differently since the update, or is it just me? With all the talk about better battery life, I thought I'd try keeping ambient mode on to see what kind of battery life I'd get. I didn't regularly use ambient mode before the update, but I did play around with it. Before the update, it seemed that the watch stayed dimly lit (ambient mode) most of the time while wearing it, but bringing my wrist up would make the screen come fully on. Now, it seems like it goes completely off immediately when I drop my wrist, and when I raise it, it lights up dimly in ambient mode, and I actually have to touch it to get the fully-on mode. It does seem to be more sensitive and reliable coming (dimly) on in ambient mode than it is in non-ambient mode, but still, in bright light conditions, it means I actually have to touch it before I can even see it (or use it).
Am I the only one seeing this?
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Just tried it out and I remember it being different as well. But I now use facer. And some faces do not show when dimmed. You have to manually update that setting in facer or whatever program you are using. But saying that if you tilt your watch away from you further, the face will shut off and for me, when it becomes more horizontal, the face dims on. So, yes, it worked like it did as it first did, but to me is a bit more sensitive to the angles of the watch.
Nevermind. I saw in another thread that someone recommended restarting the 360 after the update. Did that, and now it's working as I remember, where it still comes on fully when I raise my wrist. It was the fact that I actually had to touch it to make it come on fully that was bothering me. Now, it comes on dimly as I start to raise my wrist, and fully when I fully raise my wrist, without the need to touch it. That's as it should be.
I guess the take-away is that if the 360 is doing something weird after the update, restart it.
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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I played with Ambient Mode a little before the recent update, but battery life just wasn't sufficient to keep it on. After the update, battery life improved enough for Ambient Mode, so I switched it on. I dealt with it a couple days, then ultimately turned it off for this very reason. It just seemed clunky to me, and as you stated, I'd often glance at my wrist only to see the wrong time until suddenly the watch came fully on and updated.
I was excited for Ambient mode, but like you, I no longer see the point. I'd rather just have a user-controllable setting for "fully on" sensitivity. If I could make my 360 just a little more sensitive to my raising my wrist action, it'd be perfect without Ambient Mode.
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
I've seen the screen update while it was dim. I do think that it is too dim to use outside like you mentioned.
I noticed this as well. Surely just a bug or an issue with android wear that will be fixed at some point. I'm also sure they will provide a lot more features to regulate screen controls, on, off, brightness, etc in future updates. It's just a matter of time.
I look at it this way... the sensor is kind of future proof if anything. Might not be very useful now, but could have a lot of potential in the next few months or once custom ROM's start rolling out.
Android wear is still in the early stages. It can only get better. Just be patient, we are early adopters on first generation hardware.
tlxxxsracer said:
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
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Here is a way you can set the screen on all the time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55311726
knoxploration said:
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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Just watched mine move the minutes hand just fine in ambient mode... this is with the classic Motorola face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTpDpgYwFY
I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I thought it would stay on the dimmed mode the whole time too... but like you said it turns on with even the slightest rotation of the wrist now, and that means we can finally glance at the watch and see the time!
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The minuets do update in real time so idk what you're seeing?
This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
for me, in ambient mode, the screen still turns off after a while. but it turns back on much quicker than with ambient mode off. it often takes an exaggerated bring-up-arm movement to turn on the screen with ambient off. i used to resort to tapping the screen instead. with ambient on the battery still last me a "work day". off charger at 7AM and dies around 10PM or so...battery lasts longer with stock faces compared to Facer faces...
Most developer purposes.
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
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My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
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I just started using it and noticed the screen stays on if you keep it flat horizontal, but if you turn your wrist past 45 degrees it turns off.
Maybe they added that with the update, did ambient mode used to stay on even when that watch is sideways?
Ambient is so useless for me, the screen is almost off all the time... So frustrating coming from a g watch
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This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
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For me, I believe I have seen my watch 'get stuck' maybe once or twice where the time on the dim screen wasn't the same as I had on my computer. This could just be a difference in the clocks, as whenever I check both my phone and my dim watch together, they are the same. Like RunNgun42 said, I think it might be a thing where the proc is in sleep mode to try and save power and isn't keeping up the time as accurately as it could. Once you shake it though and the screen lights up again, the proc will come out of sleep and maintain more accurate timekeeping.
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
And yes ambient mode still turns off when the watch is at an angle consistent with being down at your side or is completely still.
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Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
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No, you can't keep the screen on at all times out of the box, but some 3rd party software can do it...
Ambient mode is a lot quicker to wake up and react than non-ambient, it's a lot more accurate (non-ambient often stays off when I turn my arm to look at the time), it's easier to see what time it is, and it acts a lot more like a conventional watch- the display is on when you need it.
Battery drain is not a biggie, I get through the day, every day.
Notice there're like two types on how people use their Moto 360.
1) Ambient Mode: on - Tilt to wake screen: off
Can always see the watchface, backlight light up by touching/interaction.
2) Ambient Mode: off - Tilt to wake screen: on
Tilt will turn on the screen with backlight. Nothing if it doesn't.
Which are you? and why?
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Notice there're like two types on how people use their Moto 360.
1) Ambient Mode: on - Tilt to wake screen: off
Can always see the watchface, backlight light up by touching/interaction.
2) Ambient Mode: off - Tilt to wake screen: on
Tilt will turn on the screen with backlight. Nothing if it doesn't.
Which are you? and why?
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Unless my watch is defective and everything I've read is wrong, the face on a Moto360 will never always stay on, even when tilt to wake screen is off (I just tried it to confirm). Turning ambient mode on and tilt to wake screen off only makes it so you have to tilt to get the ambient mode screen.
But to answer the question, I'm neither. I have ambient mode on and tilt to wake screen on. I use this configuration because I want my watch to behave like a normal watch, and I don't want to have to touch it to see the time. I also want the screen to be on as much as possible because sometimes I hold my arm at an angle that isn't detected as a true "tilt" by the watch, and I want to be able to check the time despite this.
I have tilt to wake on and ambient off because I dont want touse more battery by keeping ambient on but I also want to be able to view the time without having to touch the screen or button.
TheSt33v: u had both of them on? How is the battery life?
I have them both OFF. I found out tilt to wake off extends my battery live tremendously. But I miht be a special case since I drive for living and the watch wakes up way too often.
I'd welcome some kind of "custom calibration" for cases like this and also it would be nice, if the screen would turn off IMMEDIATELY after you move the watch away from face.
I miss voted - I have both OFF (not on).
I like to tap or hit the button to see it. Otherwise it is on virtually all the time with my hands moving so much for work.
The the new app wod i kight turn mine into a boost gauge ....lol
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TheSt33v: u had both of them on? How is the battery life?
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I's fine. I charge it overnight, and it's usually 20-30% by the time I go to bed.
until today I used all OFF, but after seeing this post I decided to try with Ambient Mode ON and Tilt to wake OFF.. I'll post later on the battery life comparaison in my case. I'm surprised to see the screen go black when not moving the watch at all even with ambient mode ON.
It's clear, I don't like to use tilt to wake, because of the 1sec lag when I move my wrist to see the time, hate it to feel like I didn't move it correctly even if I did.
I just found out from this thread that it is possible to disable the tilt to wake up gesture. Thanks OP !
Stupidly, you can't find this in watch settings, only in Android Wear app's settings.
For me, tilt to wake up disabled and ambient mode enabled looks like the best combination and battery life seems to be the same or better than with the defaults (Ambient off and tilt to wake up on), especially when driving.
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until today I used all OFF, but after seeing this post I decided to try with Ambient Mode ON and Tilt to wake OFF.. I'll post later on the battery life comparaison in my case. I'm surprised to see the screen go black when not moving the watch at all even with ambient mode ON.
It's clear, I don't like to use tilt to wake, because of the 1sec lag when I move my wrist to see the time, hate it to feel like I didn't move it correctly even if I did.
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This is how I use mine. Ambient ON, Tilt OFF.
Tilt to wake lag's really bad.
Ambient ON means I can always see the time, like a real watch.
Talking to my watch is the daggiest thing in the world, so I would always touch it anyway to activate a task.
Battery:
40-30% left when I got to bed. Turn watch OFF.
Put on charge while I get ready for work in the morning. 95-85% 20 mins later when I leave.
Happy days....
michael_or said:
This is how I use mine. Ambient ON, Tilt OFF.
Ambient ON means I can always see the time, like a real watch.
Battery:
40-30% left when I got to bed. Turn watch OFF.
Put on charge while I get ready for work in the morning. 95-85% 20 mins later when I leave.
Happy days....
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I take it you still have to lift the watch to see the ambient mode (watchface) since the Moto 360 screen always goes off when you move your arm down?
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I take it you still have to lift the watch to see the ambient mode (watchface) since the Moto 360 screen always goes off when you move your arm down?
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Yep, but, when my arm is down, I cant see my watch anyway!
Even with an analogue watch I would need to point it toward my face to read it.
I find the moto360 is pretty good at guessing whether I'm looking or not. With my arm resting on the desk/keyboard as I type this, my ambient watchface is on and I can read it by glancing down, no watch movement required.
I'm pretty happy with the battery life I'm getting in this mode.
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Yep, but, when my arm is down, I cant see my watch anyway!
Even with an analogue watch I would need to point it toward my face to read it.
I find the moto360 is pretty good at guessing whether I'm looking or not. With my arm resting on the desk/keyboard as I type this, my ambient watchface is on and I can read it by glancing down, no watch movement required.
I'm pretty happy with the battery life I'm getting in this mode.
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Agreed, I am liking the same settings on mine. Only 2 weeks with the watch so I still have to play some more but 11 hours into my watch use for the day and I am still at 59%!
I use tilt on and ambient off because i don't want use more battery when it not use.
Thanks for all the tips! I just ordered a Moto 360 myself and I plan on enabling Ambient Mode and disabling the tilt to display mode. If I plan on actually using my watch for a task I'm most likely going to tap on the screen anyway rather than tilting my wrist, and battery life will most likely be the same.
Soooo.
My watch just updated to the newest Android Wear version.
Now it seems my Ambient Mode leaves the screen on, regardless of angle!
It will be interesting to see how this effects my battery life!...!...!
I keep it all on.
I find both too useful to keep off.
michael_or said:
Soooo.
My watch just updated to the newest Android Wear version.
Now it seems my Ambient Mode leaves the screen on, regardless of angle!
It will be interesting to see how this effects my battery life!...!...!
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I thought I was crazy but I just noticed this today. It turns out that ambient on and tilt to wake off leaves ambient always on. If you activate tilt to wake, the ambient screen turns off when facing out away from you or down. So tilt off, ambient on is what I'm going to try tomorrow to see how battery life is. The only thing I miss is the OK Google command just by raising my wrist.
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is there any way to keep screen ALWAYS ON in ambient mode ???
No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.
Faspaiso said:
No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.
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Got the "interactive watchfaces" (LCA44B) update yesterday. Ever since then ambient screen is always on. Which really irritates me. I have to agree, no need to stay on if I'm not looking at it. Anyone with the same issue after the update?
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No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.
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I can't tell if people who say this are just really forgiving or liars.
thebobmannh said:
I can't tell if people who say this are just really forgiving or liars.
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Well explain. If Ambient Screen is on, but watch is ON EVERY time I look at it. A thing I don't understand tho, is that while it's a LCD display, it saves zero power by making half the screen black with digital clock on so many watchfaces.
Faspaiso said:
Well explain. If Ambient Screen is on, but watch is ON EVERY time I look at it. A thing I don't understand tho, is that while it's a LCD display, it saves zero power by making half the screen black with digital clock on so many watchfaces.
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I've played with ambient mode, and I can conclusively say that my watch face is not "on" EVERY time I look at it. Not even close. I work at a computer all day, if I glance down at my watch while it's in ambient mode, it isn't on. I drive, and I look at my wrist, and my watch is often NOT on. I understand that it turns on more easily and tries to anticipate hwen you're trying to look at your watch, but if you're casually glancing at the watch hoping it's on (rather than moving your wrist), it's often off. That's not ambient, it's just.... more sensitive.
As for your second question, only certain LCD technologies can leverage making "half the screen black" as a power-saving measure. Basically... most LCDs still use a single light source, so regardless of how much of the screen is black, the backlight is fully on. Some LCD technologies have the ability to turn on smaller backlights directly behind certain parts of the screen, so lighting only a small area of the screen is possible and saves a lot of power. I don't know enough about the technologies to know why, aside from cost, one would choose one over the other.
princehpk said:
is there any way to keep screen ALWAYS ON in ambient mode ???
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Go to android wear and settings/moto 360 and click on ambient screen on and tilt to wake screen to off. This will keep ambient on all the time. The only down side is that you will have to manually click the screen or the power button to go to full screen. I hope that helps
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wuilly said:
Go to android wear and settings/moto 360 and click on ambient screen on and tilt to wake screen to off. This will keep ambient on all the time. The only down side is that you will have to manually click the screen or the power button to go to full screen. I hope that helps
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I already knew this but decided to give you a thanks since no one else has and you correctly answered the question along with how to activate it.
Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
You are correct.
bailyc said:
Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time the watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time to watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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Ok, thanks for confirming! I definitely have something wrong, then. I've factory reset several times and even taken off most apps, and it still happens. Looks like it might be the watch.
I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
I believe the Always on Feature is not for having your watch face on all the time, but rather it dims your watch face but you still can tell the time with just the darker screen. It's not going to keep your watch face fully lit if that option is turned on.
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
rbs_uk said:
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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Most of the folks that make the WatchMaker faces either just dim the face, or they make a dimmed mode face that looks like it has phosphorous markings. I personally make custom dimmed modes. My favorite method is to make a blood red version of the face with just the essential features. The moon phase ones can look BAD ASS with the blood red moon phase on a pure black background. This is the only watch I have ever actually gotten comments on in public. When people see it they notice that it ain't no normal watch, and it ain't no Apple watch.
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Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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I think the battery life would just be too short if you left the face on all the time, all the time meaning the watch never went into dim mode. Just run tilt on, and don't wear the watch to loose. Especially at night if the watch never dimmed that would get annoying as hell it's so bright.
'god guys, really????
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I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
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Come on guys you do understand ambient mode right? When the main screen of the watch face shuts down it goes into ambient mode, which is simply black and white. Just like any pure android device. (i.e. Nexus 6) If you do not understand of know of this behaviour please stop posting and do some research. 'The watch is acting as it is suppose to in Android Wear. Just like notifications on a Nexus device. Google is your friend.
So is YouTube and understanding the android system as of today. Come on, get a clue.
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
falcon26 said:
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Well, I know what I personally thought was confusing is that "always on" isn't actually always on when charging. When on the charger, display turns off completely after a time. That's different behavior from what I'm used to based on the Moto X, which has AMOLED and still displayed ambient information on the screen when charging/docked. I find it a little odd that there is no built-in charging/docked display that uses the ambient (dimmed) display mode.
But to be sure, my watch definitely had something wrong with it. I just received a replacement unit yesterday, so I'll be testing it out today to see if it's able to stay dimmed as it should when off the charger.
Be attencion with "always on" mode, this is screen after four days (contrast on level 3).
I've had the "Ranger" watch face on with a full colour ambient mode and not experiencing any burn-in. Every minute it shifts the image somewhat in order to reduce any burn in effect. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military .
Just to cease any confusion. Always On means the screen is always on. After a few seconds, the screen will dim and go into a black/white ambient mode to reserve power.
The OP says his screen is turning completely off. So it seems there is a problem there. Every Watch face has a different ambient mode. Perhaps the one you are using has a broken ambient mode and not displaying data.
I found the best way to make a watch face is to build one yourself. Purje Black is awesome for this (truely amazing app). I am not going to do a full review but the transition between full on and ambient mode is animated, looks fantastic, has lots of Hotspots to launch various apps like weather, Google Fit data, etc, and displays it in a awesome format.
But the best feature is that you can customize the ambient mode separately from the actual face. They also support community made themes, so just browse their Google Plus theme page, find one you like, customize it to how you want it and save it.
Just be careful with your AMOLED screen that you don't have any information that is static in ambient mode, like numbers, hour marks, etc. I prefer a Digital clock/Calendar date on my Amoled, but have a nice looking analog with various information on my full face.
The device going to sleep is normal. It will go from full on to ambient mode and from there if the watch isn't moved for 30 minutes it will shut the screen off. See below from Google.
"You can set the display to show the time or turn off completely when you're not using the watch. If set to turn off, the screen will turn on when you turn your wrist or touch the screen.*
Tip: Letting your screen turn off when you're not using the watch will help improve battery life. If the watch hasn't moved for 30 minutes, the screen will turn off even if you have it set to remain always on. To wake your watch, tilt it or press the power button."
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Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
ausi said:
Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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crawrj said:
First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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Thanks, i have root..........but still cannot find an App to do this, i still would like to try.
Ho about limiting brightness to lower level than level 1. While I,m not using watch, just before it goes to ambient, I can See brightness dimmed to lower than minimum and after, ambient turns on, whitch is brighter. What can i do to use lowest levels all the time?
Stay Lit Wear
In case you haven't found it yet, search Google Play for "Stay Lit Wear."