Is it GPS Ready? - Moto 360

Is moto 360 GPS ready?
This post make me unsure about it...

I do not believe the hardware has a GPS module but, I'm sure it can pull GPS data from the phone. If it can't use data from the phone right now I would expect a software update could enable it.

leviwhite9 said:
I do not believe the hardware has a GPS module but, I'm sure it can pull GPS data from the phone. If it can't use data from the phone right now I would expect a software update could enable it.
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I was hoping the hardware had a module

It does just not enabled till a future update from what I read
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No GPS in the 360.

No teardown so far, so can't say for sure.
However, if it had one, most probably Moto would have advertised it. (Like Sony did).

Teardowns reveal a mysterious WL18G chip. I believe this to be a new WiLink8 variant possibly with BT only. No GPS.

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[Q] Compass problem

In my One V all software using compass doesn't work. Is it an hardware problem of my device or a "feature" of the model? I test it with Z-device and the compass results not available.
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gvic1 said:
In my One V all software using compass doesn't work. Is it an hardware problem of my device or a "feature" of the model? I test it with Z-device and the compass results not available.
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I confirm the same behavior too. I tried google maps and smarttools app with compass. It did nothing. Looks like HTC goofed up...
I had an official answer from HTC: Compass sensor is not inside One V
that's weird, i've tried every location app i have in my phone, including maps and i've had no problem at all? Am i just lucky or what?
ShAaShAy said:
that's weird, i've tried every location app i have in my phone, including maps and i've had no problem at all? Am i just lucky or what?
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The map rotates in Google Maps with the device? If so, then you got real lucky. I just read in a review today that the phone doesn't have a compass.
That I haven't checked yet, lemme try..
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guys sorry to revive an old thread; but I noticed something relevant to this thread just now..
seems the one v actually has a magnetic field sensor (AK8975, which is used in other phones as well).. the Phone Tester app detects the sensor chip but can't get any data out of it.. even quadrant lists the sensor (in system info).
did anyone come across anything from HTC on why it doesn't work?
Maybe its not software enabled.
if it's just software, i guess a simple OTA update should fix this!!
wonder what's stopping HTC
peekay2n said:
if it's just software, i guess a simple OTA update should fix this!!
wonder what's stopping HTC
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I don't know what is true in this, but the 2.22.401.1 did not changed anything, and HTC officially says that the V doesn't have a compass, so I don't think that OTA will solve a thing.
(just as sidenote, I have used a Galaxy Spica at the old days and officially it doesn't had dual-touch (so as the SE-X8) but it was capable of it, and even 16M colors of the display, devs made it work, it even had an FM chip, but even the devs couldn't breath life in it, so anything can be)
compass used to work on my one v..i remember using various compass apps..now they all are showing incompatible.. after installing the latest software update i think the problem started..

GPS SatNav Failure

I have found the first real issue with the M8.
The GPS fails during navigation and cannot get proper lock. That meant it kept trying to recalculate routes etc...
My friends have also had same issue.
Location settings were set on the best option too. Full mobile signal and internet as well.
gavinfabl said:
I have found the first real issue with the M8.
The GPS fails during navigation and cannot get proper lock. That meant it kept trying to recalculate routes etc...
My friends have also had same issue.
Location settings were set on the best option too. Full mobile signal and internet as well.
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Hardware related or do you think it's a problem with the OS?
No problem on GPS here. I get a quick lock and it stays on.
Using Sygic.
hija31 said:
No problem on GPS here. I get a quick lock and it stays on.
Using Sygic.
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Google navigation and TomTom both failed on different M8s.
It works for a bit, but when it goes wrong you will know about it.
I am hoping only software, but I have no idea of issues or how to fix it.
If you are rooted or unlocked, try this GPS config ... its for quick good AGPS lock before actual GPS one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709759
Prefer not to root as phone rocks. And rooting will void warranty of my new phone.
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Try installing GPS tools, it does a few logic jiggery pokery things in the background that may help
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Using with Co-Pilot Premium and works great. Locks on quickly and stays on. No problems at all.
Can't say I've noticed the issue. I use Waze. My Note II used to constantly lose GPS fix. Was irritating! Hope it doesn't start on my M8.
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gavinfabl said:
Prefer not to root as phone rocks. And rooting will void warranty of my new phone.
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I didn't know people who prefer not to root actually use XDA.
Brava27 said:
I didn't know people who prefer not to root actually use XDA.
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I'm not adversed to anythng BUT I have just bought a £500 plus phone. I would rather not void a warranty yet.... also some of my apps won't work on a rooted device.
I have no problem on my phone. all is ok.
GPS has been the best I've ever experienced on a smartphone. Locks quickly and accurately and the only device ever to get a decent lock inside my concrete flat.
However, yesterday the GPS failed completely whilst driving with clear view of the sky. A reboot fixed it and it was then rock solid again.
That's the only time it's done it in about a week since owning it with about 20 hours driving with it.
I'm hoping that means it's a software issue somewhere.
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gavinfabl said:
I have found the first real issue with the M8.
The GPS fails during navigation and cannot get proper lock. That meant it kept trying to recalculate routes etc...
My friends have also had same issue.
Location settings were set on the best option too. Full mobile signal and internet as well.
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I can confirm that my GPS nav has been broken for about a month or more, using Waze and Google Maps
The latest System update released on 6/15/2014 has resolved the issue
eniac said:
I can confirm that my GPS nav has been broken for about a month or more, using Waze and Google Maps
The latest System update released on 6/15/2014 has resolved the issue
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Thanks for update. That's good news.
grentuu said:
Using with Co-Pilot Premium and works great. Locks on quickly and stays on. No problems at all.
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Yep gonna agree works perfect with copilot. Also better than sygic imo. I also wouldn't bother with Google navigation. Better to use an offline satnav app.
I have this problem too... Doesn't seem to matter which app one are using, it also happens with my golf app... And the only way to fix it, is to reboot the phone.. This is really annoying...
It seems to be related to bluetooth use... If I use BT to play music/listen to audiobook at the same time as I use the navigation app, then I have this problem.. If I turn off the BT, then the problem does not seem to appear... I am saying seem to, because it seems to be random when this occurs so not 100% sure that turning off BT fixes the problem but so far I have not had this problem when BT is off..
I also thought this was fixed in the latest update but yesterday it happend again....
gavinfabl said:
Thanks for update. That's good news.
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Do you still have GPS issues?
My G-900F cannot find any satellites at all. Think it might be a hardware problem I have
Yes, I have the issue on my replacement phone. I have to reboot in order to use GPS...
jeffreycentex said:
Yes, I have the issue on my replacement phone. I have to reboot in order to use GPS...
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I contacted samsung & was told to take it to a service centre. They had to send it back direct to samsung for repair, will take 10 working days

Moto 360 .. WiFi capable

So best buy list the moto 360 as having WiFi, has anyone with a 360 seen or know what the WiFi is used for? Like WiFi file sharing or internet
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mr3army said:
I believe the wifi is used only for downloading information to the phone which it then sends to the watch via bluetooth.
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I wonder if they consider BT4.0 as wifi since it uses 2.4ghz as in wifi?
I am under the assumption that the 360 does not have WIFI, ifixit has their breakdown up and mention no chip.
I have a 360 and it seems the only connection option is via bluetooth.
Sad b/c I was hoping to stay connected with wifi as I always have it on, so bluetooth drains my phone a little quicker. I like the 360 thus far, hardware wise its very nice (aside from the small battery) - android wear seems fairly beta still though, but hopefully that will change quickly in the coming months.
FCC docs list specs for the WiFi test.
My personal belief is that WiFi is used for the updates. Anecdotal, but from varying easy/hard update reports, WiFi was the varying factor.
SoberGuy said:
FCC docs list specs for the WiFi test.
My personal belief is that WiFi is used for the updates. Anecdotal, but from varying easy/hard update reports, WiFi was the varying factor.
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How does it connect to Wi-Fi without credentials?
Maybe it uses WiFi direct to transfer data with the paired phone
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Maybe it uses WiFi direct to transfer data with the paired phone
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I have multiple Wi-Fi devices, it couldn't just automatically connect to one.
Bit like Chromecast, perhaps? Establish BT connection, obtain credentials from phone, establish WiFi connection.
The SOC supports it, the FCC tested it.... Shrug. Just an idea.
This would be easy to test...
Go into your router, and check for a new DHCP client...
If only there were an update to test that with!
I was thinking WiFi for location services-but still, why does it need WiFi if it's connected to a phone with WiFi? Odd...
The Moto360 does not have Wifi support, either hardware or software.
chamberc said:
The Moto360 does not have Wifi support, either hardware or software.
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Perhaps you'd like to read the last link on the following page, specifically section 2.2: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=398715&fcc_id=IHDT6QC1
SoberGuy said:
Perhaps you'd like to read the last link on the following page, specifically section 2.2: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=398715&fcc_id=IHDT6QC1
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As I stated, the Moto360 has no wifi capability, either hardware or software. It is BT only.
Can you explain, then, why the FCC docs list WiFi capabilities? They even tested it.
Honest question.
SoberGuy said:
Can you explain, then, why the FCC docs list WiFi capabilities? They even tested it.
Honest question.
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That only refers to the BT testing. Remember, same band.
chamberc said:
As I stated, the Moto360 has no wifi capability, either hardware or software. It is BT only.
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According to the firmware file present in the Moto360, and this picture (green rectangle) (you can see also the filters and caps that connect to the circular antenna inside the metal case, BTW):
It has a Texas Instruments WL18xx chip, probably a WL1851. This chip has wifi, as seen here:
http://investor.ti.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=648106
This kind of chips can use bluetooth and wifi using the same antenna, at the same time.
I don't think it's being used at the moment, I don't have the watch yet. But it definitely is hardware capable.
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chamberc said:
That only refers to the BT testing. Remember, same band.
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No, there are test reports for BT AND Wifi, separately, working :
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=IHDT6QC1&id=439285#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
Read this if you have any doubt:
http://fccid.net/document.php?id=2289203#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
dproldan said:
According to the firmware file present in the Moto360, and this picture (green rectangle) (you can see also the filters and caps that connect to the circular antenna inside the metal case, BTW):
It has a Texas Instruments WL18xx chip, probably a WL1851. This chip has wifi, as seen here:
http://investor.ti.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=648106
This kind of chips can use bluetooth and wifi using the same antenna, at the same time.
I don't think it's being used at the moment, I don't have the watch yet. But it definitely is hardware capable.
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No, there are test reports for BT AND Wifi, separately, working :
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=IHDT6QC1&id=439285#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
Read this if you have any doubt:
http://fccid.net/document.php?id=2289203#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
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Think...
I just like the guys who actually have no clues and scream nooooooooo
In the log cat you can see WiFi service starting and WiFi being in a disabled state... Fwiw ..

New Android Wear update - now we really need to know if Moto 360 has Wi-Fi

Google announced a new update for Android Wear. This update enables "phone-free" functionality so the watch does not have to be in Bluetooth range from the phone to work, it can also function if connected to a Wi-Fi network.
So does the Moto 360 have a working Wi-Fi implementation or not ? What is the consensus ? If not, this would be a good reason to upgrade.
http://googleblog.blogspot.ro/2015/04/android-wear-wear-what-you-want-get.html
It has a disabled wifi chip that was filed with the FCC, assuming it'll be turned on with this update.
It does have it, Motorola said so in their own blog
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2015/04/moto-360-its-time-for-update.html?linkId=13654909&m=1
Big_Red77 said:
It does have it, Motorola said so in their own blog
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2015/04/moto-360-its-time-for-update.html?linkId=13654909&m=1
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Great news ! A very useful feature. Hopefully the battery life will still be acceptable with this turned on.
Always-on Screen, Always-on Apps
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Weird statement on their blog considering the Moto 360 isn't capable (currently) of having the screen always on
bean_ian said:
Weird statement on their blog considering the Moto 360 isn't capable (currently) of having the screen always on
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I wouldn't call it a weird statement. It is likely the software update that will enable this functionality - I doubt it is any sort of hardware limitation.
sfringer said:
I wouldn't call it a weird statement. It is likely the software update that will enable this functionality - I doubt it is any sort of hardware limitation.
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They better also unlock the other half of the battery if they enable true always-on screen functionality
bean_ian said:
Weird statement on their blog considering the Moto 360 isn't capable (currently) of having the screen always on
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Almost positive this is referring to the black and white feature of always on apps.
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Looks like update is now available in play store!!!!!!!
Just download and install from http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...roid-wear-1-1-1-1867902-android-apk-download/
Wifi option is there under cloud sync.
But no updating on watch...
Installing now. Fingers crossed
brchickery said:
Installing now. Fingers crossed
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How is it?
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What build number and software number is the new FW? I got software 5.0.2, is that the new one?
It's only the android update side. I think we still need them to push the watch side.
i've updated my android wear app and wifi is enabled..I'm at work and have wifi here. i can walk to another office over 100 feet away and still connected where as yesterday it would say it was not connected.
modmouse78 said:
i've updated my android wear app and wifi is enabled..I'm at work and have wifi here. i can walk to another office over 100 feet away and still connected where as yesterday it would say it was not connected.
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The watch firmware still needs updated on the Moto360 before WiFi features will work.
wifi absolutely works without the new watch rom.
n00bpwner said:
wifi absolutely works without the new watch rom.
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Can anyone else confirm that the WiFi features are now fully functional on BOTH the App and the Watch? According to this Motorola blog.. it's going to be rolled out over the next "few" weeks: http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2015/04/moto-360-its-time-for-update.html?m=1
Updated to the newest Android Wear, enabled cloud sync and was in wifi range - waited some time for things to "sync" and verified the newest android wear and play services were installed on my watch. No sign of any Wifi connection to the 360 here. I don't believe it will be enabled until we get new firmware for the watch itself.

LG G4 WiFi issues

Good evening all.
Has anyone with a G4 on VZW noticed issues with apps on wifi since the latest firmware update? I've called Verizon and been on the phone with them for HOURS to no avail.
The only time wifi works normally is in safe mode. When I'm on wifi, most apps just aren't functional at all. We thought it was some app in particular so we reset the phone and the issue persists. The only thing tech support suggests is giving me another refurbished G4 which will get us nowhere as the new G4 will just be running the same firmware.
This is problematic for me as I work in and out of different buildings on any given day. These buildings don't always provide the best reception. I clamored with Verizon for a different, comparable phone. I spoke with LG and their solution is me sending the phone in with the turnaround time being 5-7 business day which is also problematic as I don't have another phone to use. Verizon refuses to acknowledge it's an "issue" because it's not "wide spread". A quick search revealed that this problem is not limited to just me.
I've exhausted my options. I do not want to spend hours on the phone with Verizon again. I do not want to speak with LG for the same phone again. I simply want a working phone. This is the 3rd G4 that I've had that does not work. The 3rd G4 in almost as many months. What are my options here?
tl;dr This is my 3rd LG G4 that doesn't work and the latest firmware update broke the wifi functionality. Verizon refuses to acknowledge the issue and will only give me the same phone, not a comparable phone. What are my options?"
Yup. Since the update. Wifi on my phone is lagging horrendously.
ghostbustaj said:
Yup. Since the update. Wifi on my phone is lagging horrendously.
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Have you tried to contact VZW?
Yes, since the update I don't get any notifications while connected to WiFi. My WiFi is slow anyway, so I haven't noticed any lag that others are reporting.
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brainwash1 said:
Yes, since the update I don't get any notifications while connected to WiFi. My WiFi is slow anyway, so I haven't noticed any lag that others are reporting.
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I spoke with them again today. Their only option is to send the same phone again which isn't going to fix anything unfortunately.
Same problem here (and also with friends who have both VZW and the G4). This exact issue popped up on the LG G3, also after an update. Infuriating that they broke another otherwise good phone. The workaround is to install an app called DNSet. It sets the DNS to Google's, which fixes it.
hilmar2k said:
Same problem here (and also with friends who have both VZW and the G4). This exact issue popped up on the LG G3, also after an update. Infuriating that they broke another otherwise good phone. The workaround is to install an app called DNSet. It sets the DNS to Google's, which fixes it.
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I am using DNSet but still curious if it really works. I feel mobile data still more responsive...sigh.
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I am having the same issues. doesn't matter which Wi-Fi network I'm on, it is terrible. Otherwise I love the phone, but this is getting really frustrating
Yeah I'm having the same issue. It's maddening!! Nothing comes through unless I manually sync or have to open the app to get it to sync. How is this an acceptable software update for verizon - who usually requires a high level of quality control on software updates??
The Update broke Notifications over WiFi. It has something to do with IPv6. Verizon PULLED the update because this is a major problem.
Either call Verizon and have them replace the phone (you will get the older firmware 11A back on it)
OR
The fix is to download DDNS or something (It is a VPN service) that routes ALL internet traffic over IPv4 connections. I forget the specific name, but it is being heavily discussed in the "VERIZON UPDATE" forum in the General section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/general/update-verizon-t3221673
Read the thread, I think toward the end more.
Almighty1 said:
Give this solution a shot, and what router (make/model) do you have exactly?
You can fix this issue without root by using the app DNSet from the Google Play store. You hit 1 button (the one and only button), and it turns off IPv6, and problem solved.
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