I'm returning my 360.... - Moto 360

The styling I love. The way AW works I like. The internals of the watch I'm not happy with. It's screaming Gen 2 with all it should be now. Hate or love my post, it's my opinion.

Would you sell it to me and send it to Spain?
I made a couple of ROMS for the motoactv and I'd like to develop for the moto360 too, but it's going to take some time until it's released in Europe.
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dproldan said:
Would you sell it to me and send it to Spain?
I made a couple of ROMS for the motoactv and I'd like to develop for the moto360 too, but it's going to take some time until it's released in Europe.
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As long as after it's said and done I have everything I paid for it. I don't need to make money on it, but I also don't want to lose considering I can return for full refund. Let me know.

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As long as after it's said and done I have everything I paid for it. I don't need to make money on it, but I also don't want to lose considering I can return for full refund. Let me know.
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I sent you a Private message.

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I sent you a Private message.
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EVOme said:
The styling I love. The way AW works I like. The internals of the watch I'm not happy with. It's screaming Gen 2 with all it should be now. Hate or love my post, it's my opinion.
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I may do the same, we'll see

After facing many connectivity issues and slow processor performance I'm on the fence about doing the same. It is sad as I really like the device but it is just too annoying.

I can't post my video on here but I have an awesome relic band I modified to get on my 360

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After facing many connectivity issues and slow processor performance I'm on the fence about doing the same. It is sad as I really like the device but it is just too annoying.
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I'm on the verge of returning mine because of connectivity issues. I had seven disconnects during a 6 hour span today. Not sure what's causing them, I thought it was Greenify hibernating the Wear app, but I disabled it and the problem persists.
Log of my problems.
My phone is a Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 11 M9, my 360 is on 4.4W.1 - KGW42N.
Anyone have any suggestions as to figuring out what's causing the disconnects?
Should I logcat both my N5 & 360?

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I'm on the verge of returning mine because of connectivity issues. I had seven disconnects during a 6 hour span today. Not sure what's causing them, I thought it was Greenify hibernating the Wear app, but I disabled it and the problem persists.
Log of my problems.
My phone is a Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 11 M9, my 360 is on 4.4W.1 - KGW42N.
Anyone have any suggestions as to figuring out what's causing the disconnects?
Should I logcat both my N5 & 360?
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I too get disconnection notifications all the time, but not sure it has actually effected notifications on the watch

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I too get disconnection notifications all the time, but not sure it has actually effected notifications on the watch
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I'll continue to get event notifications or anything that was previously pushed to my device, but I can't do anything internet related. I normally check by doing an "Okay Google" and asking what my IP is. (It doesn't show it, but it's a simple search)
I'm almost all but certain that this is an AOSP or CyanogenMod problem, not the 360. What ROM are you running?
Over on the N5 CM 11 Nightly thread there's chatter about BT issues. I haven't been involved with the thread other than an initial flash to a Nightly 3 months ago then reversion back to Milestone, but some of the devs seem to be trying to fix the problem.
Artem at Android Police made a rant post about his 360 and specified disconnection issues. I checked his previous posts and it looks like he's running an AOSP ROM. Just Googling, "CyanogenMod Bluetooth issues" and you get a slew of posts about BT problems.
N5 CM just got a fix 16 days ago, so hopefully this is in the next Milestone. I'm tempted to flash the nightly to check, but I don't have any tinkering time right now because of work/school.
I'm going to guinea pig this app and have it reconnect when ever it disconnects (RIP battery life) but I'm not counting on it. I also just uninstall and reinstalled Android Wear on my N5, maybe that will help? - I read through the Artem post a bit more and an N5 user, Jason Bowers, mentioned that after to switching to Faux kernel things were seemingly better, I'm giving it a go.
Edit: Just want to point out that I'm retarded and CM doesn't work with Faux. I just got my N5 3 months ago and normally ran Sense, so was only Sense or AOSP concerned. Not CM others, didn't know it existed, no disclaimer on Faux N5 thread. - I might switch to a Nightly CM or a Faux compatible ROM, mainly because I'd like to experience my 360 before I make the final decision to return it or not. - Might try the BT app as previously mentioned.
I'm really curious if all these bad battery life problems people are having with their Wear devices are because they are on AOSP ROMs?

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I'll continue to get event notifications or anything that was previously pushed to my device, but I can't do anything internet related. I normally check by doing an "Okay Google" and asking what my IP is. (It doesn't show it, but it's a simple search)
I'm almost all but certain that this is an AOSP or CyanogenMod problem, not the 360. What ROM are you running?
Over on the N5 CM 11 Nightly thread there's chatter about BT issues. I haven't been involved with the thread other than an initial flash to a Nightly 3 months ago then reversion back to Milestone, but some of the devs seem to be trying to fix the problem.
Artem at Android Police made a rant post about his 360 and specified disconnection issues. I checked his previous posts and it looks like he's running an AOSP ROM. Just Googling, "CyanogenMod Bluetooth issues" and you get a slew of posts about BT problems.
N5 CM just got a fix 16 days ago, so hopefully this is in the next Milestone. I'm tempted to flash the nightly to check, but I don't have any tinkering time right now because of work/school.
I'm going to guinea pig this app and have it reconnect when ever it disconnects (RIP battery life) but I'm not counting on it. I also just uninstall and reinstalled Android Wear on my N5, maybe that will help?
I'm really curious if all these bad battery life problems people are having with their Wear devices are because they are on AOSP ROMs?
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Interesting, I'm on Liquid Smooth (AOSP), so you could be right.
No other issues with Bluetooth that I've noticed - phone calls and streaming music seem to work fine...
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I left the Gear 2 not because I didn't like the watch, but because I couldn't stand stock-based ROMs any more - that and because the 360 looked so sweet and I wanted to try Android Wear - so I'm sticking with AOSP anyway, lol

Just got back a lil' while ago from returning mine. Build quality of the watch was a "little" disappointing to me, but the main issue was Android Wear; it just ain't fully baked yet. In addition to it not doing much, bugs with settings/connectivity and sending texts have me feeling it needs time.
After that time, I'll look at the hardware again; guessing it will be more capable as well.

Been struggling with returning mine. I had lost my pebble but then found it after i bought the 360. I have been wearing the pebble while waiting on my 360 screen protector. It providing me the same infomation it just doesnt look as good. I am wondering if the design is enough to keep it. I do have until Friday to decide.

dproldan said:
Would you sell it to me and send it to Spain?
I made a couple of ROMS for the motoactv and I'd like to develop for the moto360 too, but it's going to take some time until it's released in Europe.
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WOOT! I hope you get one dp. I've used your roms on my motoactv. I've got a 360 that I may buy from a coworker (he bought it and is going to return it, he loaned it to me over the weekend)

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Jelly Bean 4.2 Seems Buggy: Worth the effort?

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/14538/
I can't post in developers section, but maybe someone can persuade Dman to focus on 4.1.2?
Just saying.
Not buggy. Why would Google release it if it is...
Plus GNex got it already, My GSIII will have it in a matter of days, GNex threads rated 5 stars...
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Not buggy. Why would Google release it if it is...
Plus GNex got it already, My GSIII will have it in a matter of days, GNex threads rated 5 stars...
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I think OP might be referring to how something like December is missing in some stock apps.
Yeah, Google probably won't patch it or anything. Let's just write the whole thing off.
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Yeah, Google probably won't patch it or anything. Let's just write the whole thing off.
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Ya who cares about December anyways, not like there is a major Holiday associated to it!
Not!!
I am positive Google will patch it, they already stated they were going to.
quoting KenEsq at provided link
4.2 has been a disaster here on our Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7s. If there were any easy way to go back we would in a second. Google should be ashamed of releasing this mess.
1. We had more app crashes in the past three days then we had in the previous 6 months.
2. Battery life is about 75% of what it was on the Galaxy Nexus.
3. There's something wrong with the way the touchscreen on the GNexus is calibrated now. Touch an icon near the edge will initiate a page turn/slide rather than launch an app.
4. Numerous slowdowns, lagging.
5. Missing month of December.
6. Time on the GNex is bizarre. Other apps that also report time aren't in sync with the system time and that seems to be off a great deal.
7. The new lock screen on the Nex7 is a mess. It's slow/laggy. It can take multiple entries of the pin code for it to work and then you may be greeted with a black page. If you have one widget page selected (time) every power on will greet you with a partial view of the blank widget page.
8. Many apps including the Amazon Appstore (they patched it yesterday) lost their ability to have persistent login.
Should you not believe my reports head over to XDA you'll find a slew of additional information. Suffice it to say if you haven't "upgraded to 4.2" yet...DON'T!
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But whatever. Maybe it's all made up.
I love Android too, don't get me wrong.
Nobody is saying that its made up. We're saying that Google is working on the problem and a bugfix is in the works
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Nobody is saying that its made up. We're saying that Google is working on the problem and a bugfix is in the works
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But this isn't just a "missing December", fixing everything should take some time, and for what? What’s so new and shiny about 4.2? I only heard of the photos combination thing, which is nice, but that’s it.
I didn't say it doesn´t have a fix, I was only wondering if it's worth waiting for it/solving it instead of focusing on a nice, complete 4.1, which is already half done.
@Aquethys
I was under the impression Dman had stopped developing his 4.1 ROM to focus on 4.2 (now I realize it’s for The Collective, not the Glide). Since it is not 100% clear whether he will continue working on 4.1 or start a new 4.2 project (for the Glide) when he finishes, I don´t think it is a total waste of time to exchange opinions on this subject beforehand (not that we were his bosses anyway, he may as well take some well-deserved holidays). We are tech guys, “counting our chickens before they hatch” is what we like the most
Ps: I’m not an expert, but the fixes you mentioned sounded more like bypassing rather than solving.
All the stuff mentioned above can be fixed.
1. Calendar. Use another apk.
2. Battery Life. Custom ROMs can take care of this. Lots of ways to manipulate this. Also, it's only been released to source in a matter of days. Give it a couple weeks. C'mon..
3. Calibration. Again, custom ROMs. Some even have calibration options.
4. Lag. Overclock, underclock.
I could go on and on...
This is really pointless arguing over whether or not we should build 4.2. It's like counting our chickens before they hatch.

4.3 finally scheduled - somewhat

I haven't seen anything posted about this yet, but 4.3 is finally scheduled for the s3, at least in france. Hopefully by january we'll see a 4.3 rom released. I know you can get 4.3 now using AOKP or cyanogen but I actually like touchwiz so I'm looking forward to getting this.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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I will not believe it until I see it. I have seen many places talking about dates, that day, maybe , maybe not posted about went or went not. I think like all thing in this arena we will have to wait for someone to port it went it does finally come out . And just the fact that developers move on to other devices S4 and others it may never happen for s3. I have refuse to keep upgrading my phone and dumping so much cash for a new phone just for the newest android version. I will run my S3 until it DIES. Unless ?
Hey any in-depended rich person out there wanting to donate an S4 to me? lol :good:
I see Android 4.4 was announced we had expected the Android 5.0 release date to be some time in October 2013. We now expect to see Android 4.4 KitKat launch during that month. In the face of that point release, we think it's now likely that we'll see Android 5.0 shown in mid-2014. It a lot of babble but On 13 June 2013, VR-Zone also claimed that Android 5.0 will be optimized to run on devices with as little as 512MB of RAM.. We will see . I have doubts we will see ...
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It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If you think so Doc. I'm not getting my hopes up for it.
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And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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4.3
it is out there for sure..posted the screenshot here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46094153&postcount=526
DocHoliday77 said:
And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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That's the thing, I'm not complaining, I just replied with a time frame when we would get the update, no need to get upset and go on a rant. I cant even remember the last time ive actually touchwiz on my s3 for more than a few minutes, I could actually care less when the S3 is updated. I'm happy as long as there's support for cm/aosp/aospa/aokp and hopefully Ubuntu touch in the near future, but I think we have a better chance of T-Mobile updating our poor outdated "smart" phone than getting a fully working port of Ubuntu touch.
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Wasn't a rant. And it'll take a lot more than this thread to get me upset! Just covering all the bases because so many people keep asking me this. And any comments about people complaining were not directed at you or anyone in particular.
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I would think around January or February we will get the update. But also am not getting my hopes up.
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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The 4.3 ROMs in the development sections are custom ROMs (cm, aosp, aospa, aokp...etc). This thread is covering the 4.3 update from Samsung which we do not have.
What may be a daily driver to others may not be a daily driver for you. Go through the 4.3 custom ROM threads and read a few pages to get an idea of what issues may or may not be present and flash the one that suits your needs.
If you don't want to flash a custom ROM, then your only option is to flash the 4.1.2 touchwiz ROMs available until T-Mobile releases the 4.3 update.
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kingston73 said:
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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I would consider those to be in beta, sometimes alpha stages. If for no other reason than they sometimes have problems reading the nv data. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens enough. After flashing, baseband, serial number and imei (maybe more) all read unknown or zero. You have to either reboot several times or flash another Rom, to fix.
The nv data isn't lost, as is sometimes the case with the IMEI. As I understand it, the Rom just isn't reading it.
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Hey LG, waiting for update

when is it estimated that the update will come?
If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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I am also voting towards "Never" theory.
Also the same fate will be for G2 as G Pro.
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If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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I am also voting towards "Never" theory.
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wowwww! looks like i'll be buying the note 3 instead of this piece of old trash.
Yes you will get timely updates on Samsung.
But if compare ogp phone itself than it is great piece of hardware inside.
Have a great time with note.
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wowwww! looks like i'll be buying the note 3 instead of this piece of old trash.
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Just an "old piece" but not "trash". Cause I can honestly say it is better then S4, which I previously used.
Update together w GN2 to 4.3
Guys, grow up please... I've had 2 updates within 1 months... Please be patient... I wouldn't say that LG has no timely updates.... If there are fixes to be done then they will issue them. If it ain't broken why fix it?
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Everything new is not always better. I had a Galaxy nexus before GPRO and with each update the phone received after the SOLID 4.1.2, problems started mounting. These were not just performance issues and this was on a supposed pure Google device. Go visit the Galaxy Nexus forums and see how much folks are downgrading back to 4.1.2 from 4.2.x and 4.3. Case in point, 4.2.1 introduced issues with Bluetooth audio streaming which Google later fixed in 4.2.2. If a phone manufacturer decides to jump to a new release right away, unless they are will to deal with the churn and cost associated with putting out a new release every few months or so to correct problems, they risk taking untested functionality and upsetting their user base when stuff don't work.
I am not sure what the fascination is with 4.3 especially when 4.4 is around the corner. The biggest advantage in 4.3 in my opinion is the addition of Bluetooth LE (which GPRO already has), OpenGL ES for games and TRIM (flash filesystem garbage collection to prevent slow down). The last two would be nice to have but I am willing to wait for 4.3 to fully bake before jumping in. The GPRO is a solid device with ONE big advantage over the Note 3 at the moment. Unlike the Note 3, the GPRO does not have KNOX.
:sly: ^^^^^^^ no offence but how funny you are. Updates are bad, yaaa grapes are sour.
I am not saying updates are bad. I am asking you to use logic. LG does not update the software on their phones often. I knew this well before getting the GPRO. When/if they do provide an update, would you rather them provide one based on the current 4.3 (with all its current issues) knowing that once LG does you are probably stuck with it (good or bad) for a while or would you rather them wait for 4.3.x. I would much prefer they wait (which unfortunately means longer update cycles). Even the Nexus 4 has issues with 4.3 at the moment. 4.3 seems rushed and needs more time to fully bake. The developer community is doing their best to fix some the problems but that means using cooked ROMs which requires an open bootloader. Something I cant see (open bootloader) on the Note3 just yet due to KNOX.
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:sly: ^^^^^^^ no offence but how funny you are. Updates are bad, yaaa grapes are sour.
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I am not saying updates are bad. I am asking you to use logic. LG does not update the software on their phones often. I knew this well before getting the GPRO. When/if they do provide an update, would you rather them provide one based on the current 4.3 (with all its current issues) knowing that once LG does you are probably stuck with it (good or bad) for a while or would you rather them wait for 4.3.x. I would much prefer they wait (which unfortunately means longer update cycles). Even the Nexus 4 has issues with 4.3 at the moment. 4.3 seems rushed and needs more time to fully bake. The developer community is doing their best to fix some the problems but that means using cooked ROMs which requires an open bootloader. Something I cant see (open bootloader) on the Note3 just yet due to KNOX.
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:sly: lol. Sorry no offense, You really are :sly: So 4.2.2 in g2 is rushed. 1 year is not enough to update to 4.2 leave 4.3. Close the company for selling phones. and leave everything on Google edition.
Personally 4.2 did not bring much to the table compared to 4.1 (again this is my opinion). Name an APP that works on 4.2 and not on 4.1. In many ways 4.2 on phones was a step back in performance compared to 4.1 since 4.2 was really optimized for tablets (large heap sizes, multi-user support, etc.) with some inkling of benefit for phone users. Some of the changes in 4.2 cause massive performance issues (i.e. heap size changes) in phones which after a few iteration (4.2.1, 4.2.2) got ironed out. This only illustrate my point about why it may not be so great to always jumping to the new first. If you want consistent OS updates from a manufacturer then you need to get a Nexus device. If you bought an LG hoping to periodic updates then you made a big mistake.
Prior to getting the GPRO, I had the G2 for 3 days. Do I miss it? Heck no. Why? Because the GPRO is an all around better phone and from the surface you would not be able to tell the G2 is using 4.2.2 and the GPRO 4.1.2. If the GPRO gets 4.2.2 that would be nice but I'm not dying for it. Sure I would like the phone to be updated but I am not going to rely on LG for that and when I am ready to update, I'll find the most stable ROM possible and use that. I've been on the bleeding edge with Google for the pass two years with my Galaxy Nexus. I'm not interested in being a beta tester anymore.
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:sly: lol. Sorry no offense, You really are :sly: So 4.2.2 in g2 is rushed. 1 year is not enough to update to 4.2 leave 4.3. Close the company for selling phones. and leave everything on Google edition.
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^^^^ what do you think? Any possibilities of g2 features coming in next update.
Aside from "Knock Knock" and a few camera tricks, there was really not that much brought to the table by the G2 when compared to the GPRO in terms of features. In fact the GPRO has some features you wont find on some G2s (Wireless charging, true 5.5" screen real estate - G2 claims 5.2" screen but in reality it is more like 5" since the software buttons take up the bottom portion of the screen). The G2 was more about LG participating in the HW spec war presently going on between phone vendors. Most of the minor tweaks I saw on the G2 were with respect LG's Quick APPS which can be easily ported to the GPRO. In fact I think there is already a GPRO ROM that does this. The UI on the phones are so similar that you would have to go to the "About Phone" section to tell that you were on 4.1.2 rather than 4.2.2 on the GPRO.
"Knock Knock" is a nice feature but its only important to have on the G2 since LG placed the darn buttons on the back of the phone. Buttons on the back sounds like a great concept but in actual use the buttons being on the back just felt unnatural. At times I would have to knock the screen more than twice for it to turn on/off. Sometimes I would have to knock harder than I would like as well. Playing with that gimmick was nice for the first few day but when you get over it and start to really use the phone, you start to realize all the moments where having the button on the back is a pain in the behind.
So with that said, I think most of the minor software tweaks I saw on the G2 will make it into the GPRO if it is updated.
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^^^^ what do you think? Any possibilities of g2 features coming in next update.
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^^^ remote learning & hidden guest mode also good daily usability functions. On cm others can see what user account I logged in.
Lg this time nailed with new remote & guest mode. Also knock knock is good for me.
Guest mode most likely relies on the multi-user capability introduced in 4.2 so if that is something you are specifically looking for then you are unfortunately at the mercy of LG. All of the other G2 features you mentioned below MAY (no certain) be hardware specific to the G2. We know the GPRO has the hardware to transmit IR but what we don't know is if it has the circuitry to receive IR for learning. Same goes for "knock knock" in that we don't know if there is any hardware required to make it work.
If LG updates the GPRO to 4.2 or above, I can easily see them bring guest mode to the GPRO. If hardware is not the limiting factor for IR learning I think we will see that one too. Knock Knock on the other hand may remain a G2/"future LG phone" feature even if it is purely a software implementation. LG is in the phone business to make money and right now the "knock knock" feature is one of their prime differentiator. This unfortunately means that if you want it you will have to buy the latest and greatest hardware from them. They are not going to bring it back to older platforms because they want you to upgrade. Again this is just my opinion. Hopefully LG proves me wrong.
NaveenKumarXDA said:
^^^ remote learning & hidden guest mode also good daily usability functions. On cm others can see what user account I logged in.
Lg this time nailed with new remote & guest mode. Also knock knock is good for me.
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lantoine said:
Personally 4.2 did not bring much to the table compared to 4.1 (again this is my opinion). Name an APP that works on 4.2 and not on 4.1.
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Granted it's not that it's not totally working, but Android 4.2 correctly supports group sms messaging.
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And be able to move apps from internal to sd card natively.
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Granted it's not that it's not totally working, but Android 4.2 correctly supports group sms messaging.
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[Q] Lollipop

Anyone have any new info on us getting Lollipop? Info on Google is slim.
My guess is spring or summer time. If we see any leaks then that means it should come a month or two after the leak. Its just a guessing game for samsung
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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When we start seeing exynos variants getting 5.0 we know we will be getting closer.
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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Im pretty sure were gonna get the update. If some other tablets like the tab 4 are gonna get them, the we should get them too. The tab s is samsungs flagship right now i think
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I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I don't know about sales figures but I've read quotes from Samsung in various articles stating the the Tab S was a high priority to get an early update. After all, It is still their flagship tablet at the moment.
Rage1ofakind said:
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
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My point being too that was that, Samsung have released the final version of their lollipop update. So in terms of major software tweaks, that's done . If that makes sense lol
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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That's true. But I'd rather have an update that improves my device rather than slowing it down.
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Honestly I think ios users have the opposite problem . Apple keeps trying to update their old devices to the latest ios. The iPad 2 has no business running ios 8. Making ios 8 run on old devices just make them slow and piss people off and then they accuse Apple of making their device slow on purpose to force them to upgrade. Of course if Apple does not support old hardware then it's "abandoning" them.
But yeah no excuse for not having lollipop on the flag ship device already . It's not like Google just dropped lollipop on people out of the blue. you had betas and previews. If cyanogenmod, which as far as I know is not a multi billion dollar conglomerate, can support a bunch of devices then so can Samsung.
Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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I do also have note 3 and tab s. I installed the leaked lolipop for note 3 and I can say that lolipop is worth waiting a few more months. It's nice, clean, works well. Maybe lolipop will resolve some of our problems with tab s. My guess is that will be no lolipop update till begening of march for the tab S because we do jot have any leaked firmware for exynox yet.
I hope it never gets it. Lolly pop ruined my nexus 10, broke WiFi and sent me shopping for a new tablet. Loving my tab s running 4.4.
2 q 2015
according to this article 2 quarter 2015
://technosamigos.com/samsung-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Hopefully xposed will become working on art before getting lollipop :good:
regards
LTE edition is on Q2, means after April, this is long wait!
By the way, I am waiting for my Note 4 as well.
What to do, just wait wait wait...
Our tablets still work fine, and the rest of the community can catch up, so let's not be so first world about it.
Goog news for Tab S Owners? Reliable source?
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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http://www.jbgnews.com/2015/01/sams...oid-lollipop-5-0-to-roll-out-soon/021215.html
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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Hmm "upcoming days or few weeks"
They have absolutely no idea of when it's coming... That's a bs article.

No CM13 for LG G3 d850???

Isnt ATT usually the first to get it? Why are we last all sudden?
No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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That said there are builds out there. I've been running the following build for a week or so and it's absolutely wonderful. Better than any LP ROM I've even tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/cm13-lg-g3-test-builds-t3245744
Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.
kimocal said:
Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.
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I'm running the second build and it is good so far, except for the odd random reboot or I'll have to pull the battery.
Wow no GPS = no ingress or maps. Pulling the battery might as well be cm12.1
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No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?
lolwatpear said:
OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?
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You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.
Cuzz1369 said:
You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.
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AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.
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I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.
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I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.
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Thanks. Yes, that's what I meant. ATT is the reason why devs don't have ATT phones, even ones that are very open to development. They must not see a point in developing for a device with less already-established devs and less users.
As for my previous questions, I legitimately wanted to know where the devs who had just worked on 12.1 cm went. I just didn't know how the nightlies worked.
Updates for CM13.0 d850 here
Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.
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Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.
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I've been running your 20160305 for the past couple days and it's been very stable. Thanks for sharing your nightlies.
does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?
Has anyone tried running the official cm13 build from T-mobile G3? The only difference I'm aware of is WiFi calling.
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does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?
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everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue
there is already CM13 for D850
http://subefotos.com/ver/?034b03d64343e75988549fff7cd5a5f2o.jpg
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everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue
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What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)
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What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)
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yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
I wanted to be able to use android pay whenever I need to.
For a stock base, LG really has everything I need but I still overlay nova prime launcher to clean things up a bit. Its little things like not having to worry about whether or not an app is going to load or crash the entire system. Also not having to worry if a reboot or shut down is going to lock my phone and require a battery pull, which I have not had to do once since going to stock.
In the event that I do go to sell the phone off it generally is more desirable to have stock OS.
Oh also, my wife got a new galaxy s7 so we can do VoLTE calling now =-)
This might be my imagination but the cell tower service seems more consistent with at&t stock os.
Have no need for root and no need for kernels or any of cm's little oddities.
Sometimes I think the maintainers change things in the rom just for the sake of changing something, whether its necessary or not and without regard for whether it might wreck havoc on the entire system stability
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yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
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I'm on Cricket so it won't let me OTA to 6.0 unless I have an active AT&T SIM. I'm hoping someone at a Cricket store has one lying around that I can borrow. But I get what you mean. Whenever there was a nightly I liked that gave me no problems, I stuck to it like glue I actually gave CM13 a try for a while, today, and it was like butter. But the one thing that don't like losing from LG stock is the "content lock" in the gallery. I haven't seen a 3rd party app that encrypts and locks them down like LG; others just hide it with .nomedia or their app is bulky or they convert it but can't recover images anymore.
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