Wow... I just.. Wow...
Here's the first paragraph:
The Moto 360 is too aggressive. It's too big. It's too shiny. Its face is too large in comparison to its bezel. Its strap flops out from the edge of its case like a dog's tongue on a hot day. That's my opinion. Many will disagree with me, but I don't care. I will never wear a Moto 360. I might wear an Apple Watch, though. I expect millions of others might too.
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Too big, too shiny, not enough bezel, and what was that last one? Strap flop?
If the Apple Watch was a turd, he'd say the Moto 360 "smells too nice".
It's like Apple is to The Verge what Kim Jung Un is to the North Korean media. Jesus christ..
Eliad Kimhy said:
Wow... I just.. Wow...
Here's the first paragraph:
Too big, too shiny, not enough bezel, and what was that last one? Strap flop?
If the Apple Watch was a turd, he'd say the Moto 360 "smells too nice".
It's like Apple is to The Verge what Kim Jung Un is to the North Korean media. Jesus christ..
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I think the author's the one with the tongue wagging out. See that a lot with iSheep.
I disagree but they are entitled to their opinion.
I absolutely hate the industrial design of the Apple watch. Looks like an iPod Nano with a wrist band. But that is my opinion.
I think Apple people have been arguing the features are nice or the way the watch is made, but even they won't/can't admit the Moto 360 isn't a way better looking watch than whatever Apple showed yesterday.
He is just mad because he probably had this huge build up for iwatch apple watch and the look. And I love how it takes direct shots at M360.
Eliad Kimhy said:
Wow... I just.. Wow...
Here's the first paragraph:
Too big, too shiny, not enough bezel, and what was that last one? Strap flop?
If the Apple Watch was a turd, he'd say the Moto 360 "smells too nice".
It's like Apple is to The Verge what Kim Jung Un is to the North Korean media. Jesus christ..
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Wow, as upset as I am about the battery this is just a load of bull****
Verge can go suck one.
TOO BIG? WTF. It's a NORMAL SIZE WATCH.
And why would you want bezel on a watch...?
All high end watches are 48-52mm faces. I think the moto is just right in this regard.
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All high end watches are 48-52mm faces. I think the moto is just right in this regard.
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It's beautiful.
Apple is just mad that the Iwatch screams Fisher Price... lol
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For me, the most unattractive aspect of the moto 360 is the strap arrangement. I loved the original teased photo of the 360 with the large link black metal band. That's not what we got. Even the metal bands that are coming have no resemblance to that band.
When on your wrist, the cavity the strap exits from shows about an eighth of an inch of... umm... er... well, slop. It reveals the case is not solid, and really looks like an afterthought. In contrast, Apple's band design is brilliant. Whatever you may hate about the Apple watch, you gotta give it to 'em in this regard.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For me, the most unattractive aspect of the moto 360 is the strap arrangement. I loved the original teased photo of the 360 with the large link black metal band. That's not what we got. Even the metal bands that are coming have no resemblance to that band.
When on your wrist, the cavity the strap exits from shows about an eighth of an inch of... umm... er... well, slop. It reveals the case is not solid, and really looks like an afterthought. In contrast, Apple's band design is brilliant. Whatever you may hate about the Apple watch, you gotta give it to 'em in this regard.
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Not at all mate, the iWatch looks like a toy.
youre a fool if you think the iwatch looks better than a m360.
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Not at all mate, the iWatch looks like a toy.
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If you actually think the band design is better on the 360, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Speaking of toys, what is your feeling of the SoC Motorola decide to stick in this pup? And the battery life that it is most likely costing us?
I don't understand thinking the moto 360 is a big watch. I have small wrists and and it doesn't seem big at all. I was expecting much bigger after reading some of the first impressions on it
The f...? The larger Apple Watch is actually bigger than the 360! And the non-sport editions are much more shiny than the 360 with polished steel instead of brushed. And too little bezel? That's a new one. Too aggressive? Ah, so he wants a lady watch. Yeah, that rose gold small version of the Apple Watch with a pink leather band is probably right up his alley. I agree with him that a lot of people will buy the Apple Watch, but it won't be because of its looks. It will be because there is an Apple logo on it.
Just read the article. I don't agree with his assessment of the Moto 360 styling, but to be fair, he also slams the Apple Watch a bit in the second paragraph...
Let's get one thing out of the way: the Apple Watch is not a pretty watch. A bulbous slab of metal, its case is a chunky blob with a square face and bulging sides.
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I wonder if Apple will make their watch only work with Apple "certified" straps.
To me, it seems like the article contradicts itself.
While a number of smartwatches offer either replaceable straps or a choice of colors at retail, this customization fails to truly change their general aesthetic. Whether fitted with leather strapping or metal links, a Moto 360 is a Moto 360. Changing the strap on a Pebble Steel is simply changing the strap, and nothing else.
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Yes, changing the straps is just changing strap. Moto 360 is still a Moto 360 and a Pebble Steel is still a Pebble Steel.
There will be 34 Apple Watch models across three "collections," and thanks to an ingenious design flourish in the form of a proprietary strap system, each looks distinct.
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Ummm... this is also changing the stap, no? The Apple Watch will still be an Apple Watch.
What's worst is that Apple uses a "proprietary strap system" unlike the Moto 360 that can use 22mm straps (although not all 22mm may fit). Get ready for $100 straps.
Willing to bet some of those straps (like the cool magnetic mesh) will be more. Get ready for jewelry like prices on some of this stuff. $349 is only the starting price. That will probably be the sport model.
Lol that's funny because of how much the verge has already said how nice looking the Moto 360 is... For months now...
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/25/5843028/up-close-with-the-moto-360-the-best-looking-smartwatch-yet
This one calls it the "Jon Hamm of smart watches":
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/5/6108947/moto-360-review
Make up your mind, Verge editors!
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If you actually think the band design is better on the 360, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Speaking of toys, what is your feeling of the SoC Motorola decide to stick in this pup? And the battery life that it is most likely costing us?
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Indeed we will, if you seriously believe that a proprietary strap design for which *nobody* makes straps (and for which nobody will sell straps at a non-Apple inflated pricetag outside of certain parts of Asia) is even close to comparable to an open strap design that has been used for decades, and for which tens of thousands of strap options exist right now, many of them extremely affordable and yet great quality.
The *only* advantage Apple's strap design brings is being slightly easier to change. If you're changing watch straps frequently enough that this matters to you, you either have an addiction or you just love yourself entirely too much for anybody else to care one lick about you.
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Indeed we will, if you seriously believe that a proprietary strap design for which *nobody* makes straps (and for which nobody will sell straps at a non-Apple inflated pricetag outside of certain parts of Asia) is even close to comparable to an open strap design that has been used for decades, and for which tens of thousands of strap options exist right now, many of them extremely affordable and yet great quality.
The *only* advantage Apple's strap design brings is being slightly easier to change. If you're changing watch straps frequently enough that this matters to you, you either have an addiction or you just love yourself entirely too much for anybody else to care one lick about you.
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What are you 15 or something? If it's a better strap, it's a better strap! If you can't afford it, that doesn't change things.
Quite telling you want to continue to talk about straps and what they might cost, while ignoring the obsolete hardware in the 360.
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First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
I still don't understand why people think we care why or even that they are returning their devices.
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I still don't understand why people think we care why or even that they are returning their devices.
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Classic reply! But I invite serious thoughts and suggestions that other users can use to make an informed decision for buying Moto 360 or Wear device.
Thanks.
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First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's all screen and marketing until they actually put the thing on the market and it works.
Exactly how many choices do you have when buying an apple phone? Two models and a choice ($$$) of memory.... Wee! Did you catch the part where they said the iwatch will have about a day of power? Will that be average in 2015?
I will stick with cutting edge choice. You have more vendors producing wear watches the further we get so we have many more product cycles in play.
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It's all screen and marketing until they actually put the thing on the market and it works.
Exactly how many choices do you have when buying an apple phone? Two models and a choice ($$$) of memory.... Wee! Did you catch the part where they said the iwatch will have about a day of power? Will that be average in 2015?
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I think you are missing the point. I am not thinking about buying Watch, I would just like Wear to be more polished. Seems like if Google has strategy, they haven't forcefully executed the strategy so that average consumer knows what product roadmap will look like. As for power, today's TIZEN and some Wear watches do offer longer battery life. I am not sure why Moto chose to go with older processor and what implications it has on battery life.
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I will stick with cutting edge choice. You have more vendors producing wear watches the further we get so we have many more product cycles in play.
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Exactly my thoughts...until I see 2nd or 3rd cycle of products, I will sit on sidelines.
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I think you are missing the point. I am not thinking about buying Watch, I would just like Wear to be more polished. Seems like if Google has strategy, they haven't forcefully executed the strategy so that average consumer knows what product roadmap will look like. As for power, today's TIZEN and some Wear watches do offer longer battery life. I am not sure why Moto chose to go with older processor and what implications it has on battery life.
Exactly my thoughts...until I see 2nd or 3rd cycle of products, I will sit on sidelines.
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My point is the single producer product line and marketing is all apple has. They put on a good show. Problem is the features on their phones are old to most android users. They talked about a watch that isn't real yet. It's not on the market. It's os isn't on any device yet. So they market and market.
Android is our os. We have separate manufacturers using this os which leaves each manufacturer to market their own distinct features. I think Motorola marketed this watch pretty well. For using an old chip, they are still having a hard time keeping stock. I personally think mine is great. Battery lasts all day for me. Os improvements will come. Google promised them often. This is cutting edge on Google time, not apple. Sorry you didn't like it, hope by gen2 you will.
I find it funny that I've heard SO many people bad talk square smartwatches and say how ugly they are, especially Apple fans. But now that Apple announced a SQUARE smartwatch they all think it's the best invention ever.
I have a Moto 360 and I'm still learning things it can do. It is a wide open platform with tons of innovation happening. Good value.
I watched the Apple September event, second hour on Watch, and LOL'd at all the fake prototype and incomplete demonstrations. Saying the Watch is *ahead* of the Moto 360 is ignorance. You actually believe everything you saw was working? Really?
But, you can drink whatever kool-aid Apple is selling and I don't care. Just remember Google is killing them on services like Maps, Search, and Voice. So, my opinion for Apple fan boys is put up or shut up. Let us see WHAT and WHEN they ACTUALLY ship something, and how it compares AT THAT TIME with Android Wear.
Good luck.
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But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time.
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I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. If you watched the same thing I did I cant see how you thought that watch was anything but a incredibly ugly kids toy. Drawing pictures on a tiny watch screen and sending heartbeats is a joke. What adults would do that? Seriously?
In reality you are comparing a real life product to apple$ over hyped marketing material for the watch not the actual watch itself with it's shortcomings. Did you know it has a days worth of battery? They conveniently didn't mention that except to a CNBC analyst afterwords and that they weren't happy with it. I bet it has WORSE battery life than the 360.
IMO the 360 is light years ahead of the apple watch.
It appears to me Apple is trying to make a computer for your wrist where as android wear is meant to be a companion. In this way I think less is more and wear is simply a better product.
I don't get the battery complaints.. My 360 is sitting at 50% after about 13hrs of pretty decent use.
Wear will continue to get better but as it stands I think its pretty steller. Apple's product is confusing and more over currently doesn't really exist.
Well, coming from a pebble and loved the openness of that platform. Then tried the LG G Watch and thought to myself that it couldn't be up to par. I found myself flipping both my kickstarter pebble and pebble steel within a day of usage of the LG G Watch. I drank the kool-aid and chose android wear not of what it can do now, even though it did as much as my pebble does in my case, it was the potential. So I can see where you are coming from the prime time statement. But as a pretty heavy user when it comes to data, I can see android wear leaping real far when it comes to Android L. I don't foresee L being polished either, but I just see the potential that android wear has scratched the surface and the devs will have heaps of fun with this platform. I mean just look at the facer app.
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It appears to me Apple is trying to make a computer for your wrist where as android wear is meant to be a companion. In this way I think less is more and wear is simply a better product.
I don't get the battery complaints.. My 360 is sitting at 50% after about 13hrs of pretty decent use.
Wear will continue to get better but as it stands I think its pretty steller. Apple's product is confusing and more over currently doesn't really exist.
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THIS.
If you spent any time on your android wear device (or any smartwatch), you'll realize that trying to turn your wrist device into a mini-smartphone is a stupid proposition when (1) the screen is small (2) forms of input are limited, and most importantly (3) a smartphone is literally right in your pocket.
Google understands this well, since most everything in Android Wear is completed with 2 or fewer swipes OR with pure voice. Apple will fail in this regard. Imagine trying to find your app in a sea of apps on a 1.X inch screen, then having to zoom into a group of apps to select your intended app. Sounds WAY more fun than just pulling out your phone and getting the task done without all the frustration.
Anybody who has tried to actually do anything meaningful on a smart watch while *walking* knows that it's an exercise in frustration.
This is the one time that Google took the simpler method, and will win out because of it.
Plus, the apple watch is vapor until next year, anyways.
This whole idea of wearables is still "new" so it's expected to have different opinions from both sides. I was an iPhone user when they first released the iPhone and got all the iPhones until the iPhone 5. But like someone else said, it got boring because the OS was the same. Now I consider my self a hardcore android user and so is everyone else in the family.
Anyway, I also bought Moto 360 and used it for about a week extensively. But after using it for a while, I realized the OS just doesn't have a lot of use for me PERSONALLY. I wear a real watch and it was a choice of wearing a Moto 360 or a mechanical watch. This whole idea of charging every night just didn't work for me as I had to carry my pad everywhere. But some of the things that I do miss are the Google Now where I can just talk to my watch and find out information without pulling out my phone and opening apps. This DOES have a lot of potential for the future when the developers start making exciting apps for it but for now, it just depends on the user on what their looking for. Meanwhile, my friend has this was and he said it's sufficient for his needs and it's worth it.
Realistically, people should not give Moto 360 bad rating just because it doesn't have the features that their Android 4.4 has.We said the something when Google first released the first Android OS. Just give it time and see what they bring out.
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First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's a geek toy and, unless you have mental problems, you are AWARE about what you are buying.
Also I can bet my car that after Apple revealed its watch specs the next Motorola watch will be ways better.
It's up to you and you only.
Just my 2 cents. :L
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sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's a geek toy and, unless you have mental problems, you are AWARE about what you are buying.
Also I can bet my car that after Apple revealed its watch specs the next Motorola watch will be ways better.
It's up to you and you only.
Just my 2 cents.
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sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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I completely disagree with you.
I am also a big Android user, I watched the Apple Watch presentation and I cannot be happier with AW after it. Yes Apple is a trendsetter, yes it would be blind to not see what else the market has to offer however you are comparing Apples and Pears
AW is said to be and IS a "notifications and information to your wrist" platform in order to avoid constantly checking your phone because a heavy user can check is phone up to 160 times a day but really just gets the info without even acting on it more more than 50% of the time. AW gets you the information easily and you are done because you do not intend to act on it.
Whereas Apple Watch took a different path, a "subsidiary" of the iPhone. It does not replace but it complements with phone functions. WhoTF needs to have a map on their wrist with a crown to zoom in? AW give you directions if you need direction. If you need precise map tools, you have a 4"+ screen in your pocket or purse.
I think you should move to iOS all together and zoom in / zoom out on maps on your wrist if you think AW is mistaken and if you think that Apple Watch really gave you a mini orgasm while AW didn't
On my side, I am happy to have my statusbar on my wrist. I do not need more than that, I do not want more than that. I have a 4.95" screen in my pocket and a watch is not going to make me leave it in there to be just a mini Bluetooth hotspot for the watch.
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@parth6512, is right. It comes down to how it works for you personally.
For me it's a great addition.
1) I wanted a new watch. Done.
2) I leave my phone sitting on my radio playing Pandora when I work as a plumber. Now when I get a text or phone call, I don't need to go see who it is. If it's a text I know what it is and can reply by voice if I'd like too and if it's a call I can accept it since my earpiece is usually in.
I actually find myself using my BT earpiece more than I was before now.
And to compare some pictures of a watch to an actual device is just silly.
And who wants to pinch to zoom on their watch? And to try and look at a map rather than just get your turn notifications? That's just bizarre.
I'll pull out my phone to look at a map. That's what a 5.5" screen is for.
I just ordered my moto 360, I think it is the prettiest smart watch in market right now, and the omap processor is not a deal breaker in anyway( it's a watch, you won't be playing hardcore games on it). I would brvsingvmy moto 360 n weekends and special occasions, whereas my weekdays watch would be tgevlgvg watch. As indicated by the reviewers, the battery would last a single day(not a problem at all).
I watch-fugly, cartoonish, over hyped piece of junk
sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's funny how people are so different. I watch the Apple announcement video and tried very hard but couldn't find much to like about the Apple watch. It's visual appearance is what surprised me. Apple is usually the best looking product available. But I wouldn't put them in the top two with the one they showed on stage. Square? Really? It looks like a thick brick. It will not fit under a buttoned shirt sleeve.
As to the operation of the watch, Leo Laporte summed up the Apple watch pretty succinctly: "It looks like it was designed for Japanese school girls. "
Yeah, I completely disagree as well. I wonder what most people are looking for out of a smartwatch. I like the notifications and the actual watch part. There isn't a whole lot more than I want to do with it. Some quick access apps will be nice in time as they are built, but watching the Apple presentation makes it looks like their watch does almost as much as their phone, and doesn't do it very well. Instead of the Apple of old in the Jobs era where they'd come out with less features for a good clean platform to start and add more with time, they've piled very feature they could into an ugly package, with a very poor UI.
Don't get me wrong, I love that Apple came out with their watch. I love that it does all of this, but only to help fuel the competition. It's hard to say which is "better". It's fairly clear the Apple Watch does "more", but I think it does so in a very poor manner. The launcher, the silly digital crown, the pointless "features" like drawing on a tiny screen on your wrist. More isn't always better. There's a reason why they didn't talk about battery life. You know if it was worth talking about, they would have. Maybe smartwatches can evolve into more powerful devices, but they need to evolve there as we learn better ways to design the hardware AND software of a unique device, rather than try to stuff it all into a first gen device. I think the next version of the Apple Watch will be toned down quite a bit and will be much cleaner and more usable, but it marks an interesting change as Apple's first big "new" product since Jobs left and it shows a new attitude in the company where absolute refinement is no longer forefront.
For now, I'm perfectly happy for a nice clean and minimal design that tells me the time and gives me notifications. While I do wish for some changes, fixes, updates, and all that, a new version of Wear will be coming soon and I'm good with what I've got until then. This is a very much polarized topic as it applies not only to technology choice but fashion choice as well, and with the fashion sense of most of the "smartwatch type" people I know, it should be entertaining to say the least.
Hi all,
Here is a video of me unboxing the Moto 360 and the Sony Smartwatch 3 which I received on the same day. http://youtu.be/0zLxA8hDQjA
I brought the two of them expecting there to be a clear winner for me (and sell the other). There was not and there still isn't. I prefer the backlit LCD screen of the 360, better blacks and viewing angles ect. But the Sony looks alot less conspicuous on my wrist. As I have dainty wrist this is a big issue for me. I love the wireless charger of the Moto and seeing as I have 4 other QI chargers at home, work and in the car I am not worried about running out of juice. I also like the Micro USB charging of the Sony as they can be found anywhere in the world, but it is a bit more fiddly to charge instead of just 'plonking' the watch down to charge.
The Sony has GPS and NFC built in as well as WIFI according to the white paper from Sony, although there is no use for it yet but I am sure there will be in the future. Although the Sony does not have a heart rate monitor. But my Samsung S5 does.
Long story short, I am keeping both. I will use the Sony for general day to day work but wear the Moto if going out. I will be changing the strap of the Moto as I hate the type of strap that comes with it. I will be fitting a stainless steel strap which will hopefully add a bit of weight as I found that both watches are allot lighter than I was expecting and prefer.
Any questions please feel free to ask.
thanks for the vid
have you had a chance to try out the GPS and blutooth music streaming(at the same time)?
for the sony that is
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thanks for the vid
have you had a chance to try out the GPS and blutooth music streaming(at the same time)?
for the sony that is
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Hi Dave
I have tried both, but not at the same time. Have you heard that there is an issue with it. If you have and you would like me to test it let me know.
Cheers
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the Sony looks alot less conspicuous on my wrist. As I have dainty wrist this is a big issue for me.
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I am not sure if you know are aware, but Moto has just released 18mm versions of the 360 (as opposed to the original 23mm). I too have small wrists for a guy and I am quite intrigued by the 18mm version.
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/shop-all-other/Moto-360/moto360-pdp.html
I'm not sure if you're aware, but moto have just released 18mm BANDS not watches. The watches are the same size 18mm is the width of the band
SW3 was on my alternative list, however, that screen looks ... Less than vibrant.
I would like to get a new smart watch. My Friend has the 360 which I think looks awesome. But that flat tire thing really bugs me. I hate the way that looks. I though with the Moto 360 2 they would have removed that but they didn't. So now I am also looking at the new Huawei watch. Which to me looks pretty much identical to the 360 but without the flat tire thing. Are the android versions pretty much the same thing on all watches? I've read the Huawei is slightly thinner than the 360. Both are the same price $350. Just not sure which one to get....
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I would like to get a new smart watch. My Friend has the 360 which I think looks awesome. But that flat tire thing really bugs me. I hate the way that looks. I though with the Moto 360 2 they would have removed that but they didn't. So now I am also looking at the new Huawei watch. Which to me looks pretty much identical to the 360 but without the flat tire thing. Are the android versions pretty much the same thing on all watches? I've read the Huawei is slightly thinner than the 360. Both are the same price $350. Just not sure which one to get....
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The flat area is really a non-issue after the first 10 minutes with the watch.
Keep in mind that the Huawei has a 300mAh battery (and an AMOLED screen) while Moto 360 v2 has 400mAh battery (but LCD screen). I think the 360 V2 will have better battery life - in part due to their experience with V1 (while the Huawei has none) - and this is important. Also, the Moto 360 has a 1.56" screen while the Huawei has a 1.4" screen. Screen size matters on such a small device. The less bezel area, the better.
That flat tire thing as much as I tried to ignore it just bugs the heck out of me. I think it looks really really lame. I would gladly give up a little space to have it gone.
Any reason you don't want the LG Urbane?
I don't like the bezel on it...
falcon26 said:
I don't like the bezel on it...
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Then you've already made your decision. You don't like the flat tire on the 360s, you don't like the LG models and you have nothing negative from your POV about the Huawei watch. They all run the same Android Wear, so functionally they are identical. Although they have some differences in hardware. This leaves you with no choice, but the Huawei watch.
falcon26 said:
I don't like the bezel on it...
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Not sure why the flat tire is an issue. With a small battery like that you'd only look at the screen less than a minute every time, and if you're not admiring the watch but actually take a glance at the screen you will not notice and forget about the flat tire being there. Pretty sure practicality matters more than fashion (not like the 360 is ugly or anything).
On a side note, from my experience at least I have to look at the watch twice to tell the time, because it displays more information than a normal watch would I forget to look at the time.
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I'm sorry but I'd rather have a screen with a flat tire than a small screen like the Huawei watch.
Seriously people complain about the flat tire but the truth is that all the other models have a huge bezel around and smaller screens.
The 360's screen is actually 20% bigger than the huawei watch.
raundown said:
Not sure why the flat tire is an issue. With a small battery like that you'd only look at the screen less than a minute every time, and if you're not admiring the watch but actually take a glance at the screen you will not notice and forget about the flat tire being there. Pretty sure practicality matters more than fashion (not like the 360 is ugly or anything).
On a side note, from my experience at least I have to look at the watch twice to tell the time, because it displays more information than a normal watch would I forget to look at the time.
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I agree 100%. I didn't care for it and really put off getting it, but ended up getting one and now it's totally a non issue. Never even notice it anymore and there is a watch gave that actually used it in its design.
Hello,
I'm trying to decide between which v2 to get between the 42mm and the 46mm men's versions. I've printed the cutouts and the 46mm does appear quite large, particularly when I try and imagine adding thickness on top of that. That has me leaning towards the 42mm. I've got a 7" flat-top wrist.
I have not been able to gauge the 46mm size in person as none of the Bestbuy's in my area ever have the v1 on display.
For those who have v1, I'm wondering what the consensus is with respect to the size, especially over time. Did people find the v1 too big relative to their wrist size? If you could do it again, would you get the 42mm instead? Curious to know your opinion, relative to your wrist size also.
Thanks.
I have the large one now and I don't find it to large however I did order the smaller one, for what I use it for I don't need the larger size so I went smaller.
In the world of mechanical watches, this is the kind of size associated with actual diving watches (not just mere swimming). And there's a reason for that: 42mm already is big (ie too big for a dress watch: it's already in the sports watch domain).
It's not a matter of whether your wrist is big or not. It's a matter of bling (that bling may be fashionable is another matter). Or for watches this big, traditionally a matter of being designed to be worn over a thick diving suit, and still be readable with a diving mask and poor lighting.
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remember that the 46mm has a 400mAh battery while the 42mm has ony a 300mAh one.
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Battery is 33% bigger, but screen is 32% bigger as well (assumed pixels are squares, and took account of the flat tyre)... There's also the SOC power usage (don't see why it would differ on both models), so the 46mm will surely get a bit better mileage, but far from one third, I guess.
For what those are worth, ambient mode battery lives for both models are quoted as being the same. Useless as sheer numbers, but I guess they're at least comparable to one another.
The interesting point would be the battery life gained with the much better (though still not particularly fit for the job) SOC, compared to previous generation.
noraef said:
In the world of mechanical watches, this is the kind of size associated with actual diving watches (not just mere swimming). And there's a reason for that: 42mm already is big (ie too big for a dress watch: it's already in the sports watch domain). It's not a matter of whether your wrist is big or not. It's a matter of bling (that bling may be fashionable is another matter). Or for watches this big, traditionally a matter of being designed to be worn over a thick diving suit, and still be readable with a diving mask and poor lighting.
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What are you talking about ?? Moto 360 V1 has a diameter of 46mm and looks perfect at my wrist, and looks perfectly fine even at my GF's wrist, and also at every reviewer's wrist...didn't read about size complaints.
I'm telling about the sentiment among people having been interested in watches long, long before smartwatches:
- dress watches : <=39mm
- sports watches: <=42mm
- big ass watches (divers, jet pilots, clowns, 80's rappers, former hollywood star and bodybuilder governors): anything bigger
People may wear what they want for all I care. But 42mm is not a small watch. And 46mm is a huge watch (and that's going to be amplified by lugs, granted).
Don't mean to intercept,
But the 360 version 1 is already 46 mm yes?
I have big wrists so the 46 is fine for me. I don't like the thought of going to a smaller screen. The only thing I don't like about the v1 is the lack of lugs and overall bland bezel and case which are fixed on v2. The better SoC and battery are a huge perk. I need a nice looking watch due to being a tech business owner and this was the first step. It's still one of the best lookers out there till gen 2 hits. The options on moto maker for v2 are great. Just to compare, here is a side by side with my v1 and my fossil watch. It's an average sized fossil. Bezel and case are about the same size.
marctronixx said:
Don't mean to intercept,
But the 360 version 1 is already 46 mm yes?
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Yes.
FusionTechFTS said:
I have big wrists so the 46 is fine for me. I don't like the thought of going to a smaller screen. The only thing I don't like about the v1 is the lack of lugs and overall bland bezel and case which are fixed on v2. The better SoC and battery are a huge perk. I need a nice looking watch due to being a tech business owner and this was the first step. It's still one of the best lookers out there till gen 2 hits. The options on moto maker for v2 are great. Just to compare, here is a side by side with my v1 and my fossil watch. It's an average sized fossil. Bezel and case are about the same size.
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Do you mind telling us how big your wrist measurement is?
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Two sizes on my small wrist
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Two sizes on my small wrist
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the black one looks sick
I was in the market for a new watch and figured that I may as well check out Android Wear. After reviewing and looking into all of the Android Wear watches currently available, I was torn between the Fossil Q Founder and the Huawei Watch. I ended up going with the Fossil because I figured it would be more future proof with the Intel Atom processor and 1GB of ram. I also read an article by Android Police on the Fossil Q Founder that stated it had an internal speaker for future use. (Which, it does not!) I did like the design and overall look of the Fossil. However, it was pretty huge and it didn't fit / feel right on my wrist at all and was too bulky. This, the flat tire, and the fact that it doesn't have the speaker was just too much. So I decided to return it. I should have went with my first choice, which was the Huawei Watch.
I ordered the stainless steel / black leather Huawei Watch from BH Photo Video for $309 on Dec 22nd. They gave me free overnight shipping and do not charge sales tax, which is awesome. I received it the next day. It is kind of my Christmas present to myself. (The Fossil was suppose to be) I love it! It is much nicer than the Fossil. The display is better, the steel finish looks nicer, and even the leather band seems nicer / higher quality than the one on the Fossil. It fits me perfect and feels awesome on my wrist. I prefer a larger watch face and the Huawei Watch is perfect for me. It's not to big, yet not to small. I love that it has the speaker for future use as well.
I thought I would post this for people who are thinking about getting the Huawei Watch but are also looking at the Fossil Q Founder. As someone who originally purchased the Fossil and had it in person, trust me. Get the Huawei. It is so much nicer in every way. If you browse around you can find the leather band version for around $300, only $25 more than the Fossil with the leather band. I went with the Fossil originally because I thought it would be more future proof but the fact that it does not have a speaker destroys that concept in my opinion.
Huawei watch is the best looking smart watch on the market right now. No if or buts about it. I have had the black one for a month now and have gotten tons of compliments.
I just love it and can't wait to see what they are going to do with the 2nd generation.
Rektifying said:
I was in the market for a new watch and figured that I may as well check out Android Wear. After reviewing and looking into all of the Android Wear watches currently available, I was torn between the Fossil Q Founder and the Huawei Watch. I ended up going with the Fossil because I figured it would be more future proof with the Intel Atom processor and 1GB of ram. I also read an article by Android Police on the Fossil Q Founder that stated it had an internal speaker for future use. (Which, it does not!) I did like the design and overall look of the Fossil. However, it was pretty huge and it didn't fit / feel right on my wrist at all and was too bulky. This, the flat tire, and the fact that it doesn't have the speaker was just too much. So I decided to return it. I should have went with my first choice, which was the Huawei Watch.
I ordered the stainless steel / black leather Huawei Watch from BH Photo Video for $309 on Dec 22nd. They gave me free overnight shipping and do not charge sales tax, which is awesome. I received it the next day. It is kind of my Christmas present to myself. (The Fossil was suppose to be) I love it! It is much nicer than the Fossil. The display is better, the steel finish looks nicer, and even the leather band seems nicer / higher quality than the one on the Fossil. It fits me perfect and feels awesome on my wrist. I prefer a larger watch face and the Huawei Watch is perfect for me. It's not to big, yet not to small. I love that it has the speaker for future use as well.
I thought I would post this for people who are thinking about getting the Huawei Watch but are also looking at the Fossil Q Founder. As someone who originally purchased the Fossil and had it in person, trust me. Get the Huawei. It is so much nicer in every way. If you browse around you can find the leather band version for around $300, only $25 more than the Fossil with the leather band. I went with the Fossil originally because I thought it would be more future proof but the fact that it does not have a speaker destroys that concept in my opinion.
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FYI, the Huawei Watch was designed by a Swiss certified Horologist (named Ben Norton) who has 50 credited designs and has worked for both Armani and (ironically) Fossil.
With his design input, a sapphire crystal display and a cold-forged stainless steel unibody frame, there really is no other choice in the sub $1000 Smartwatch category. After Huawei, there is TAG. Nothing else comes close in premium design and feel.
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FYI, the Huawei Watch was designed by a Swiss certified Horologist (named Ben Norton) who has 50 credited designs and has worked for both Armani and (ironically) Fossil.
With his design input, a sapphire crystal display and a cold-forged stainless steel unibody frame, there really is no other choice in the sub $1000 Smartwatch category. After Huawei, there is TAG. Nothing else comes close in premium design and feel.
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Thank you for the info. I definitely never knew all of this. I am really liking this watch. It looks and feels much more premium than the Fossil Q Founder. I should have known better. I mean, I would never buy a cheap Fossil analog watch, so why would their smartwatch be any more premium? Oh well.... it's gone now.
What do you think about the LG Urbane? I did look at that one as well. It does appear more premium than the Asus and Motorola offerings. I did like the design, but not as much as the Huawei and when I tried it on at Best Buy though it didn't feel right.
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Thank you for the info. I definitely never knew all of this. I am really liking this watch. It looks and feels much more premium than the Fossil Q Founder. I should have known better. I mean, I would never buy a cheap Fossil analog watch, so why would their smartwatch be any more premium? Oh well.... it's gone now.
What do you think about the LG Urbane? I did look at that one as well. It does appear more premium than the Asus and Motorola offerings. I did like the design, but not as much as the Huawei and when I tried it on at Best Buy though it didn't feel right.
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The leather band of LG Urbane is very low quality. I suggest you to get to one shop and feel in on hand. Huawei is doing well on their first smartwatch, nice looking and very comfortable band.
TouchOne Keyboard said:
The leather band of LG Urbane is very low quality. I suggest you to get to one shop and feel in on hand. Huawei is doing well on their first smartwatch, nice looking and very comfortable band.
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I tried on the Urbane at Best Buy. It does not feel right at all. It is too "long" or "tall". Hard to explain, but feels awkward on my wrist. I am glad I ended up with the Huawei. To me, it is the best smartwatch available. I obviously base this on opinion of design and facts of hardware. (Sapphire Crystal, Cold Forged Stainless Steel) I did check out the Tag online. It does look pretty sweet, but definitely more sporty looking. Don't get me wrong I would definitely wear it, but I honestly prefer the design of the Huawei over the Tag. Also, if I am going to spend $1500+ on a watch, it is definitely going to be a nice analog watch that is not going to turn into "old gen" or "outdated tech".
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Thank you for the info. I definitely never knew all of this. I am really liking this watch. It looks and feels much more premium than the Fossil Q Founder. I should have known better. I mean, I would never buy a cheap Fossil analog watch, so why would their smartwatch be any more premium? Oh well.... it's gone now.
What do you think about the LG Urbane? I did look at that one as well. It does appear more premium than the Asus and Motorola offerings. I did like the design, but not as much as the Huawei and when I tried it on at Best Buy though it didn't feel right.
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I've owned the LG G Watch, LG Urbane, and now the Huawei watch (since it launched in September). The Urbane is awkward as you said; its very tall with a smaller display, and the feel isn't great. The Huawei Watch I have with the SS Milanese band feels significantly better. I've owned my Huawei Watch for what seems like a long time now, and I don't regret it at all. The AMOLED display is great, and I really like the brushed SS sides and polished front. The only thing that would make it better is if it had a rotating bezel like Samsung's Gear S2 does. I've used the Gear S2, and the only nice thing about it is the bezel, everything else is meh. I also tried the Moto 360 gen 2, and the LCD display/flat tore ruin it for me. My Huawei Watch gets mistaken for a real watch on a daily basis, so it's funny to watch peoples reaction when they see that it's a smart watch.