[Q] My understanding of "Always-On"/various smart watches... - Moto 360

Ok, I have owned several smart watches and I thought I understood, "Always-On".
1) My Samsung Gear Live did have "Always-On" and the battery would last about 1 day or a little more.
2) My Samsung Gear 2 did NOT have "Always-On" and the battery life lasted for days (3-4).
My Moto 360 does NOT have "Always-On" and lasts about 24 hours. Seems like it would be like #2 above ie. battery lasting 3-4 days. Why is it not???
If I turn "Ambient Screen" on the battery last about 9 hours. Seems like this would be like #1 above. Why is it not???
My understanding was all the Android Wear smart watches would be "Always-On". Of course this mean dimmed like my Samsung Gear Live was but still...it was "Always-On".
Can someone help explain why the Moto 360 isn't "Always-On" like the other Android Wear watches? And also, since it's Not "Always-On" why the battery life is so different than the other smart watches that aren't "Always-On"?
Thanks!

Theres two main things that negatively impact battery life.
#1 The screen is an LCD while samsung uses AMOLED. AMOLED saves a lot of energy when using black backgrounds (dimmed mode or always on). AMOLED can selectively light individual pixels and only light up the ones being used in a dimmed state. While LCD has to power a backlight for the whole display regardless of what parts of the display are being used
#2 The older TI OMAP 3 processor in the moto 360 is more power hungry since it is built on an old 45 nm process.
So the more the screen is on and the processor has to do work, the faster it drains.

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[Q] Optimus G Pro Screen Brightness vs. Battery Life

I've owned an iPhone 3GS for almost four years now, and it's time to upgrade to something new. I've decided upon the OGP as my new device, but I have some questions about battery life. I've read a few reviews that said although not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2, the battery life is still great. Then again, I've also read a few reviews that have said that the battery life is horrid and that LG phones in general seem to use more battery than most while just sitting idle in standby mode. So, it seems to go both ways, depending on which review one reads.
My typical usage is about 90% browsing and reading webpages, and about 10% watching YouTube video, with a bit of music listening thrown in. With the iPhone I had to keep the screen set at about 50% to get me through a day of the above usage. Sometimes, an hour long recharge during lunch would give me battery life until the early evening. I hated having to keep the screen dimmed to 50%, but that's the way it is with that particular phone's power-hungry LCD. For video watching, I max the brightness so as to get as crisp of a picture as the phone is capable of.
I had looked at getting the Note 2, but I didn't care for the AMOLED's lack of whites and lack of brightness (and low resolution) in comparison to my dinosaur iPhone. If I did get that particular phone, I'd have to leave the brightness at max 24/7 although I don't know how that would affect batt life. Either way, the Note 2 screen did not appeal to my eyes, and the one on the OGP along with that of the HTC One were the best I've found in the larger phones.
So, my questions are, what do most people keep their brightness set to on their Optimus G Pro for most of the time, and how much screen time do you really get at that particular brightness level? And, does it seem that a few people have possibly gotten defective batteries? I realize that the G Pro's screen is an LCD with a white backlight on all the time the screen is lit, and probably won't be as efficient as an AMOLED, but with my type of usage (with the screen set to max) what kind of daily battery life can I expect from the OGP?
Well, I don't know if I can give you an estimate based on your exact usage, but let me share with you mine. I have my brightness set to 65% with auto brightness turned on. For me, that is a nice, comfortable viewing level that is easy on the eyes. I love the colors at 100% brightness, but it's almost too bright for me to look at for long times. Anyway, I only use my phone to send text messages and check web sites during the day, but then I play games in the evening (like super stickman golf). I can get through the day easily with 25% remaining when I plug in at bed time. I get about 4 -5 hours of screen on time out of that, so in total I could get about 5-6 hours if I were to drain the battery all the way.
So that doesn't exactly answer your question, but each person's usage is going to be slightly different. It also heavily depends on what you have for apps that are running in the background.
hmm
I'll say this much, screen is responsible for about 50% of your phones battery drain across the board so if 100% brightness is more important than another hour or two of usage time then go for it. This thing should get you a full day even at 100% charge and relatively heavy usage but get comfy with seeing 20 or 30% by early evening. The hardest thing to get used to is remembering that 20% can still mean 2-3 hours of usage and is not an emergency. Another plus of this phone is you can charge about 50% with one hour of charging (or 25% on 15 mins) so as long as you are using a good charger you can juice up in a hurry.

So the M360's Battery life is great now... So...why are the SnapDragon Ones so bad?

This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
Your thoughts?
Locklear308 said:
Your thoughts?
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We're just witnessing the power of software... if you have the latest processor you don't have to try that hard to get reasonable battery life.
But Motorola had bad PR from reviewers about battery life, so they were forced to optimize their code.
IMO, the fact that the life improved so much is what gets Motorola points for me. They could have made it just "good enough", but it feels like they really went all out hopefully they support this watch for a long time
Not sure where you are seeing they are being outperformed? If all things equal (both using always on set to off) G Watch battery will last much longer. The problem is that nobody compares the battery life of these devices using equal settings on both devices.
17 hours and you're at 60%?!?
I took it off at 8 am, and right now it's 3:20 pm and I am at 40%.
And I was in school the whole day so i only checked my watch for time and notifications
I have ambient off, auto brightness and lvl 1 brightness
are you using stock?
I just got this watch monday, so maybe the battery needs to set in, and I did get the latest update
My record is 50 hours with the simple watchface, ambient was off but I checked it plenty.
First day using the watch(got it yesterday). I finished school and I'm at 38% its around 5 pm and I took it off at 7:30 am. I used it a ton though, even showed off the little games to friends. Once it starts to set in, I'm sure I can get a day+ out of it.
I've gotten a good day and a half with this watch, it drains fast at first but as you use it, it will get better.
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That's some amazing optimization
I haven't had time to check the various battery life threads, but has anyone (with good battery life experiences), noted whether during the majority of their
daily time with the watch - they are within connection range of their phone and indeed remain connected?
Just wondering what being out of bluetooth range/not connected does to battery life? i.e. is it similar to the situation when a phone is "polling" for
a Wifi connection or polling for a phone network connection but can't find one so the constant polling activity results in higher than average battery drain..
I personally think that the battery life discussion is one of the silliest there is. I have been always burnt by saying how great battery is somewhere. Was it Galaxy S2, HTC M7, M8 or now Sony Z3, they are never THAT good. However on Moto 360 I am really happily surprised. Even from the first day on I have never had problem with the battery. Actually I have yet to see sub 20%levels on the Moto 360. I get it off charger around 7AM and put it back 11Pm or 12AM. I usually have around 30-40% left. I use automatic brightness and ambient off. I do get a lot of notifications.
But the much praised Z3 goes to charger much sooner than this watch. Sure, I couldn't go on for the next day but it doesn't matter if I can make 20 hours easily since I never sleep with my watch on the wrist.
So, you are saying you get 5hrs of battery life and that's great?
7AM - 12PM. That's only 5hrs. Lol
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i have noticed that having Facer and the other custom watch ups uninstalled (Facer especially) It helps me out with battery life big time.
Even when facer isn't running?
Uninstalling helps battery? I might try that today for shiggles.
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I've had the G Watch since it came out, and the 360 for a few weeks now. All things being equal, the G Watch goes an extra 12 hours easy, but it sure isn't as good looking as the 360, so it had been relegated to just morning gym sessions now.
Locklear308 said:
This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
Your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that many of us get nowhere near those numbers, and you must be barely using your watch with almost everything disabled to get 2.35% per hour power consumption.
On my watch with latest firmware, reset after the firmware was installed, no apps at all, ambient mode off, step counter on, and default brightness, I cannot get below 3% per hour with almost zero usage, and hover nearer to 4% per hour with real-world (light to moderate) usage. At 17 hours, I would have at best 49% remaining, and more likely 32% remaining.
And that's with ambient mode off. Enable ambient mode and even with light usage and no apps at all, my watch will regularly fail to make it through a single regular, 16-hour day (that's the time between waking and sleeping with an eight-hour sleep cycle, which is the most a typical adult gets).
Also, what review have you seen with the G Watch or Gear Live using their latest-available firmware, so you can make a valid comparison? Because comparing the Moto 360 on its latest firmware against those devices on early firmware is utterly unfair and meaningless.
The Gear Live massively outperforms the 360 in regards to battery stamina. I don't understand how you guys are getting 50 hrs on a charge. I do like ambient mode, but I can still kill a battery in 12 hrs easily.

Consider replacing my SW2

Hi guys!
Time has come to replace my SW2. I like it very much even now, but I wanna make the step to Android Wear.
I would like to hear from you guys what's the best smartwatch out there in the terms of battery life. One thing I like about my SW2, is the battery life 5+ days with moderate usage.
Every oppinion is highly accepted!
Thank you in advance!
i haven't done ane research yet, but i think sw3 has a better battery life for android wear, the look is the only thing that makes me want android wear, because none of the android wear smartwatch yet could have a prolonged battery life. since most of them (from the review i read) only could last a day or two
corrections.. none of them last for more than a day, here is a review, http://www.greenbot.com/article/283...-best-android-wear-watch-available-today.html
I wouldn't like a Sony Smartwatch again... but if no other oportunities show, I guess I'll have to stick with Sony...
SW3 has certainly the best battery life with his transflective screen but SW3 is also the badest screen in dim mode (99% of the time using the watch). All other wear device have nice watchface even in dim mode but SW3 has a screen like the SW2 so 2 colors only. You lost all the nice wear face.
Apart the SW3 the best battery life is certainly the LG-R with his P-Oled display. (I have an SW2, LG G-Watch and R-Watch).
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SW3 has certainly the best battery life with his transflective screen but SW3 is also the badest screen in dim mode (99% of the time using the watch). All other wear device have nice watchface even in dim mode but SW3 has a screen like the SW2 so 2 colors only. You lost all the nice wear face.
Apart the SW3 the best battery life is certainly the LG-R with his P-Oled display. (I have an SW2, LG G-Watch and R-Watch).
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i wish i could try one if i had enough money.. but none of them were sold in my country, imported one were insane expensive..
dersie said:
SW3 has certainly the best battery life with his transflective screen but SW3 is also the badest screen in dim mode (99% of the time using the watch). All other wear device have nice watchface even in dim mode but SW3 has a screen like the SW2 so 2 colors only. You lost all the nice wear face.
Apart the SW3 the best battery life is certainly the LG-R with his P-Oled display. (I have an SW2, LG G-Watch and R-Watch).
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Thank you for your reply!
So, you mean that SW3 is best in sunlight, but because it's backlight off, it won't be able to show colors. That's not a problem. I need battery life, not stupid permanent lit display.
I would like to know what the SW3 charging system? Classic cable? Damn, Moto 360 with it's Qi charging is great!
Yes, the SW3 has a standard micro usb cable.
When reading the review, it seem that in final, SW3 not has a very better battery life than a LG-R, maybe just a little.
Well, after a little research, I think my final decision (80%) is for the Galaxy Gear 2 and S6 (I will replace my phone too).
Thank you guys for your help (+1).
Have a good day!
I just buy a second-hand Gear 2 on ebay
Well, can you point me out a few things?
- How is the battery life (hard usage/normal usage/light usage)?
- How is the screen in bright conditions?
- How many apps are available for the Gear 2?
- How is the camera (can you post a normal sample and a macro sample)?
- How is the Bluetooth signal? Do you get random disconnects?
- How is the speaker and the microphone?
I really appreciate if you're willing to help.
Thank you!
I'm wating for my new Gear 2 Neo, maybe at end of week or Monday.
I made some research for app but it is difficult because you can not see app store without Gear connected at your phone
Samsung claim 300apps. App seen in google search seem very interessting.
AlarmPro
Gear Tasks
wrist list
APE Pad
Quick Notes
My Notes
.......
khrystyan27 said:
Well, can you point me out a few things?
- How is the battery life (hard usage/normal usage/light usage)?
- How is the screen in bright conditions?
- How many apps are available for the Gear 2?
- How is the camera (can you post a normal sample and a macro sample)?
- How is the Bluetooth signal? Do you get random disconnects?
- How is the speaker and the microphone?
I really appreciate if you're willing to help.
Thank you!
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Received today Very very very..... nice smartwatch !
First day is a very high usage so can say anything on normal use. I'm at 36% after 12H of install and test many apps and alarm with vibe and sound.
Screen can bright very high, I use the mini otherwise it is too bright indoor.
I have yet loaded many many very usefull app, more than the SW2
No camera on Gear 2 Neo
No disconnection
Speaker and micro is nice when using S-Voice input and output. but it is not a 100w amplifier
Thank you for your oppinion!
I think that I will wait for LG G4 and SW3 combination. Thank you very much for your help, guys!
Have a great day!
SW3
I have just returned my SW3 because of some screen problems . I was very disappointed firstly with the build quality (I bought in Nederlands) and than with Android Wear functions.
You can still do plenty more with AW than with SW2's software but I'll stick with Sony's software a bit longer because SW3 couldn't do the following:
-show you misses calls,
-let you read older emails or messages,
-battery only lets you have fun without charge for 2 days,
-it feels as two little interest is invested in releasing relevant updates for it.

Bad battery life when using custom watch face.

To start, I'll say I was moderately impressed with the moto 360 battery life when I got it a couple weeks ago based on all the poor things I had heard about it. My issue however is that it seems like if I use any watch face other than the stock ones that come installed already, the battery struggles to last more than 3 hours. When using something like minimal or classic (pre installed faces) I have no trouble getting 18 hours and having a bit to spare.
Could an element like having a weather display be whats hurting it so bad? I think most of the faces I tried show weather, but only update every hour or two hours. I can not imagine one or two updates eating up 80% of the battery.
Some of depends on what watch face you're using. Some show way more information than your standard stock watch faces so that uses up way more battery doing that. Could also be some are badly made and so therefore use more battery. What faces are you using?
yeah.. i agreed... custom watch face eats more battery.. even using simple custom that not showing weather information.. i can feel the different when using the one came preinstalled.
It shouldn't work like this way. I will buy a Moto 360 because of the feature of changing watch face.
Here are two of the watch faces I've been using and getting very poor battery life with: (both with ambient mode off)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stmp.minimalface
I'm currently using The Hundreds face and not sure how it will hold up. This is my first day with it. Trying with Ambient mode on.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wearable.android.breel.com.thehundreds
In comparison however I have used the next few with very good battery results. I'm thinking the weather has something to do with it, because the ones that last all day do not show weather
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.speeds.pro.watch.face
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atektura.dotswatchface
It seems like it is the faces that you are using. Rather than buying separate face apps, I use a single app called "Watch Faces for Android Wear" that has a gallery of thousands of free faces that you can download. I have never noticed a significant impact on battery life with any of the faces that I have tried. I usually get a good 18-20 hours with my watch and these faces.
I use many watch faces via Watchmaker app and haven't found any battery differences. My watch seems to consume about 3.5% of battery per hour.
For anyone that cares, I used "The Hundreds" watch face today. set the background to "random" and had ambient mode on all day. Got about 10 hours and it was at 20% when I stuck it back on the charger. This is okay for me on a weekend, but M-F when I work 12-15 hours a day I need it to last ALL day. Will probably use stock faces during the week and custom on the weekend unless I can find one I like that doesn't chew through battery like my dog eats those damn greenies.
you can use watchmaker and set the max fps to 15 , works good and doesn't take much battery
You mentioned that the "Ranger" watch face that you are using uses a lot of battery life. I have had the opposite experience with Ranger. I use it daily and get very good battery life with it. One thing I have noticed though and it applies to most, if not all watch faces is that battery life is dramatically impacted by the use of "ambient mode". Use of ambient mode guarantees me less than 8 hours of battery life with just about any watch face.
Also, if you don't mind having to push the side button on your watch to see the time, you can set it to theater mode and get about two days use.
David
Dave, do you have the weather enabled also on Ranger?
I've used ranger, without ambient and turned off tilt feature, and I get at least a full day of battery life. With the mentioned features on, I have to charge at least twice a day. With the tilt feature on, I noticed just walking around the screen would turn on all the time. Maybe, those having battery issues, should try turning off the tilt feature then report back about any battery issues. Currently, I use Odyssey and occasionally I can get a day and a half before needing a charge.
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Dave, do you have the weather enabled also on Ranger?
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Yes.
David
I'm currently using a custom watch face on Watchmaker. It shows moon phases, time, date, temperature, what kind of weather it is, and battery life for both watch and phone. My watch has been off the charger since about 6:20 this morning, and i'm at 75%. I've only used 15% of my battery in just under 12 hours. What are you people doing to make your watches die so quickly? Although, I do have wrist turn turned off and ambient mode turned off. I work on a sales floor and a register so wrist turn gets annoying, lol.
matrix0886 said:
I'm currently using a custom watch face on Watchmaker. It shows moon phases, time, date, temperature, what kind of weather it is, and battery life for both watch and phone. My watch has been off the charger since about 6:20 this morning, and i'm at 75%. I've only used 15% of my battery in just under 12 hours. What are you people doing to make your watches die so quickly? Although, I do have wrist turn turned off and ambient mode turned off. I work on a sales floor and a register so wrist turn gets annoying, lol.
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How often are you checking your watch? Messing with notifications from your phone?
Usually check my watch about 3 times every hour (if anything important comes through, my watch will vibrate so there's really no use in constantly turning it on to check for notifications). My girlfriend and I text a lot so i'm constantly getting text notifications. I get weather updates (2 cards, one for home, one for work) as well as traffic updates. Even when I traveled earlier this week and had maps going (2hr round trip), I still had great battery life. Finished off a day with 30% battery (the navigation really took a toll but I made it through about 18ish hours up to that point.). Google fit is also constantly running and I walk an average of 10k-13k steps a day so it's tracking a lot.
My phone battery, though.....wow, lol. Talk about piss poor when the watch is connected. I have to keep it in battery saver mode so it'll last me
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I've used ranger, without ambient and turned off tilt feature, and I get at least a full day of battery life. With the mentioned features on, I have to charge at least twice a day. With the tilt feature on, I noticed just walking around the screen would turn on all the time. Maybe, those having battery issues, should try turning off the tilt feature then report back about any battery issues. Currently, I use Odyssey and occasionally I can get a day and a half before needing a charge.
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As much as I like the Ranger face, I will not use it if the only way for a full days battery life is turning off the tilt feature. With ambient AND tilt off, we are just getting further from a watch, and closer to a gimped phone.
MrStig91 said:
As much as I like the Ranger face, I will not use it if the only way for a full days battery life is turning off the tilt feature. With ambient AND tilt off, we are just getting further from a watch, and closer to a gimped phone.
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Imho, if I don't need to look at it, then there is no need for the screen to be on. I work in the car audio install business so I'm constantly moving, therefore I turn off tilt. And to honestly compare the moto to a phone, that's just ridiculous. It's not even close to a phone. It's just a fully customizable watch that allows you to see most notifications from your phone. In my line of work, I don't have time to constantly reach in my pocket to check my phone. So to each his own. I'm getting a day or more out of the battery. I'm very happy with the way it performs. No complaints. I'm just saying, it's a way to increase battery life if you need it.
I have also noticed better battery life using stock watch faces. I use Facer and paid for the "premium" watch faces, which often have date, weather and battery level on the face (some even have the digital time too). I've been switching back and forth between the Motorola custom watch face and I get much better battery life with it. Today while using the stock custom watch face I was left at 55% battery after nearly 15 hours of use. I keep the display at level 1, turn to wake on, ambient mode off, I get weather updates regularly, all texts and some emails; every notification is set to vibrate as well.
When using a Facer watch face my watch will often die by the time I get home. Sometimes it'll die sooner depending on how much I used it that day, but all in all the differences in battery life is substantial between the different watch faces.
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I use FaceMaker and have good battery life. Took it off the charger at 9 AM and now at 5:26, it's showing 68% battery\17 hrs left.

Moto 360 or Asus Zenwatch

Looking to get an Android Wear smartwatch.
The Moto has the better water resistance, bigger circular screen but the Asus has better battery, P-OLED screen and faster CPU.
Some Moto 360 users are reporting problems like screen burn in, and battery drain, should I be worried about this?
I need the battery to last from 7 AM to 10 PM.
In for feedback also.
I just got the Moto 360 yesterday and so far it is very nice, but honestly think I prefer my Pebble Time more. Would love to hear other users input.
flyingfinn333 said:
Looking to get an Android Wear smartwatch.
The Moto has the better water resistance, bigger circular screen but the Asus has better battery, P-OLED screen and faster CPU.
Some Moto 360 users are reporting problems like screen burn in, and battery drain, should I be worried about this?
I need the battery to last from 7 AM to 10 PM.
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I have had my watch since February, no screen burn in at all. I charge it all night so the screen is on all night as well.
I usually take mine off the charger at 5:30 am and don't put it back on until 10:30 pm and I am normally in the 30's at that point. I have a lot of notifications that come through during the day, I would say 5 to 10 an hour on average. On days I run and use runkeeper it will take about 10% off the battery life every 45 min. So my average days I have no issues making it through a full day. I have found that I need to restart the watch about once a week to maintain this, if not I can have a day where the battery life tanks for no reason.
If you plan to use GPS (Maps) a lot or use the watch to play music via bluetooth from the watch those both will kill the battery faster.
I have had my moto360 for about 2 weeks... But here's the catch (now this obviously may vary from person to person)
When the Moto360 first came out, I was sold on it, I wanted one... But I waited. So now that I bought one I had to go through 2 exchanges because, the first one had a severe battery drain problem and the 2nd one, once it died, wouldn't turn on, even after a day of being on the charger. Now that I have a 3rd (which was my final exchange, and would have requested a refund after) it seems to be working great! I love the build. Of course I wish many things about it were better, but because I like it so much I was willing to get one that works. Just like you're phone, if you use it smart you can get great battery life out of it. When I'm home I have it disconnected from my Bluetooth connection because I don't use it. I can get to the end of the night with 20% or so left. Easily lasting from 7am to midnight. At the price it's set at now, I believe it's worth it. At least until v2 comes out.
flyingfinn333 said:
Looking to get an Android Wear smartwatch.
The Moto has the better water resistance, bigger circular screen but the Asus has better battery, P-OLED screen and faster CPU.
Some Moto 360 users are reporting problems like screen burn in, and battery drain, should I be worried about this?
I need the battery to last from 7 AM to 10 PM.
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I don't think screen burn in is possible on moto 360 since it doesn't have oled.
Mine on full charge lasts day and a half and I'm using it as a pedometer and I've got a watchface which takes my heart rate everytime I turn the screen on.
Big battery savings: Ambient screen (doh), Tilt to wake screen OFF! Just tilt to wake off at least doubles my battery life.
Stank0 said:
I don't think screen burn in is possible on moto 360 since it doesn't have oled.
Mine on full charge lasts day and a half and I'm using it as a pedometer and I've got a watchface which takes my heart rate everytime I turn the screen on.
Big battery savings: Ambient screen (doh), Tilt to wake screen OFF! Just tilt to wake off at least doubles my battery life.
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Which watchface is that? I'd love to see more frequent HR data.
cliffr39 said:
Which watchface is that? I'd love to see more frequent HR data.
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An one I made myself. After I downloaded tons of free watchfaces and even wasted money purchasing watchfaces I used for a few hours before realizing they won't work for me. I realized that if I want something tailored EXACTLY for my needs, I'll have to make it myself.
Inspired by Iguana's http://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/military-digital-watchface-14a9a3f7838 I stole his compass ring and heart and steps icon. I hope He won't mind too much since I made it strictly for my own use, no distribution intended.

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