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Downloaded an upgrade to Skype today, and included was a bunch of new devices, that got videocalling with the upgrade. Among others was the Iconia A500, but of course no A100. ARGHHH!!!
After a couple of weeks of owning the A100, I'm more than happy at the size and speed of this little tablet, but it's getting to be really tiresome, that most of the cool new games and apps I find in the Market aren't compatible with the A100
Even some TABLET APPS aren't compatible.
And this is just the apps openly state they aren't compatible. With some of them, you won't find out until you either open it, and a message tells you that your device isn't compatible, or it just plain crashes on you...
(To further the confusion, in some cases you can download a demo from Tegrazone, but when you try to buy the full game after happily playing the demo, Android Market tells you, that the game isn't compatible with your device.... WTF?!?!)
Who's fault is this exactly? Is it Google that messed up? The developers that are just plain lazy? Or is Acer somehow to blame?
(I noticed that most apps report my screen in the A100 as being 600*976 pixels. Is this somehow the problem for at least some of the uncompatible apps!?)
And more importantly, what can I as a user do? Shoot off some friendly emails to developers? Or can a root or somekind of hack help solve the problem?
Opinions, suggestions?
Video still isn't working on Skype for the A500, so you're not missing much!
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Video still isn't working on Skype for the A500, so you're not missing much!
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Errr, yes it is (on A500/A501)! If you took 10 seconds to search you'll find in the skype parameters the possibility to turn on video (it isn't by default) and it works, I've just spent an hour on skype video, you can choose which camera you want to use, everything works perfectly. Sorry for being off topic but I just wanted to clarify what the person above me said...
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Errr, yes it is (on A500/A501)! If you took 10 seconds to search you'll find in the skype parameters the possibility to turn on video (it isn't by default) and it works, I've just spent an hour on skype video, you can choose which camera you want to use, everything works perfectly. Sorry for being off topic but I just wanted to clarify what the person above me said...
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Those options do not exist in HC 3.2 on the A500.
In mine stock 3.2 non root exist. Is in settings at the skype application. But you need the last skype update. I just finished a video conference right now and it worked great. Try again.
Alright, on 3.2 Rooted, but the rom that has all the bloatware and everything pretty much intact Skype does not do video calls or show ANY of the video options in the settings.
I reverted back to a backup of 3.1, and the app DOES do video call, and show the video call settings.
I don't know what your doing Kekinash, but you've got a magical tablet.
That's weird, my A501 on 3.01 stock rom with root is compatible with skype video calls.
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Downloaded an upgrade to Skype today, and included was a bunch of new devices, that got videocalling with the upgrade. Among others was the Iconia A500, but of course no A100. ARGHHH!!!
After a couple of weeks of owning the A100, I'm more than happy at the size and speed of this little tablet, but it's getting to be really tiresome, that most of the cool new games and apps I find in the Market aren't compatible with the A100
Even some TABLET APPS aren't compatible.
And this is just the apps openly state they aren't compatible. With some of them, you won't find out until you either open it, and a message tells you that your device isn't compatible, or it just plain crashes on you...
(To further the confusion, in some cases you can download a demo from Tegrazone, but when you try to buy the full game after happily playing the demo, Android Market tells you, that the game isn't compatible with your device.... WTF?!?!)
Who's fault is this exactly? Is it Google that messed up? The developers that are just plain lazy? Or is Acer somehow to blame?
(I noticed that most apps report my screen in the A100 as being 600*976 pixels. Is this somehow the problem for at least some of the uncompatible apps!?)
And more importantly, what can I as a user do? Shoot off some friendly emails to developers? Or can a root or somekind of hack help solve the problem?
Opinions, suggestions?
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This is both an opinion as well as a suggestion...
Be patient
Unfortunately the 7" and 8.9" sizes are 'new territory' for HC apps. Devs worked to get apps compatible with/to 10" screens and the associated resolutions that run on that size primarily for their tablet-only applications. In the same way devs for phone (1.5-2.3) apps have been working to make their apps scale up for tablet use, I'm sure HC-only app devs are working quickly to make their apps scale to smaller tablet screen sizes and those new resolutions. Even if the resolutions are already supported, afaik there's an issue in 3.2 causing them to crash when paired with 7" screens either way.
So when I say be patient, I mean hold out a bit longer and I'm sure things will be up to spec. On one hand you'll have the quicker devs fixing their apps to work well with smaller screens/different tablet resolutions and worse case scenario, you know it's all coming together anyway for ICS and at that point, everything SHOULD work.
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And friendly emails to devs let me tell you, do tend to get the job done. Especially when the app is popular. I use Getglue and was frustrated that it wasn't after quite a long time, not changed to be compatible with 3.0.1. I wrote a friendly email to the dev. asking for a Getglue for Tablets because I really loved the app and I sit with my tablet beside me more so than my phone now at home, etc. etc. and I got a response from my team saying that the app was unfortunately no longer compatible, but to use the mobile site. This was in July. Then roughly a few weeks or so later, voila! Fix'd. So it never hurts to let them know what's up.
most apps work in my stock A100
So far I have had no problems with the apps I use and have downloaded or even pay for. Skype now does video calls perfectly, the only app that was crashing a lot was a spell checker tha I did uninstall and replaced with an other one that has no problems.
Just checked, and the video options DID turn on in Skype.
Along with a little warning that it might not be supported, blah blah...
So I got to use the front camera for the first time today
Dunno if it's just me but it seems not all the apps I could/can see on my A500 appear on my A100. Same gmail account. For a while I couldn't find Facebook on the market.
Yeah, there would be a lot of apps for the A500 that aren't compatible with the A100 I can imagine.
Best way to check, is to go in to the www version of the market, then you can see all apps, no matter if theyre compatible or not. If you have several devices, the www market tells you which one of your devices an app is compatible with. I wish there was a similar feature in the market app.
BUT! On the bright side, I DID get around to rooting my A100... You think that might make a difference in regards to apps? Is there some kind of workaround available now that its rooted?
I just activated cam on my A100 and it is working fine.
?? Does Skype update automatically???
muqali said:
Dunno if it's just me but it seems not all the apps I could/can see on my A500 appear on my A100. Same gmail account. For a while I couldn't find Facebook on the market.
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I sideloaded Facebook, just FCs. The alternates kind of suck. Dolphin for Tablet FCs. Works on my A500.
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I sideloaded Facebook, just FCs. The alternates kind of suck. Dolphin for Tablet FCs. Works on my A500.
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I just downloaded the Facebook app from the market on my A100, it works perfectly. Running 3.2.
It must have auto-updated. Works now. Weird. It didn't used to.
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Skype is working too here...
Skype works well
Acer Iconia Tac A100-- Skype Video works great.!
mine is working with no problems also.
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my Wife has the Iconia Tab 7" and when she gets incompatibility issues, all I do is side load the app. example, American Express app says its not compatible with her device. I just copied it from one of my Android devices and Bluetooth it to her, she installs it and it works 100%
sometimes the market place is just wrong. when I want an app even though the market says NO, I find the .apk from somewhere and install it. on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 Gameloft says their game Lets Golf 3 doesn't work....BS, Ive been playing this game for a month now with ZERO issues.
Hey guys, I just grabbed a KF HD 8.9 off ebay for my wife for $225. I tried to convince her to go with a Nexus7, but she wanted the larger screen. Our previous phones were Android, so she'd be familiar with the Fire if the answers to my questions are positive. Here's a few questions I have if someone can please help me out:
1) From what I've seen reading on here, we can root the device and add the Google Play store. Is this correct? Are there any caveats to this (i.e., you must to do X or Y to be able to download apps after adding it)?
2) If I can install a customer launcher for her (I don't know what the current options are, but there was Nova, Launcher Pro, GoLauncher, etc when we had Android devices), would this largely cause the device to actually LOOK like normal Android? I don't see why there would be any issues, but I just want to clarify.
3) It appears (again, from reading on here), that you can sideload apps (I used the "allow unknown sources" box on my phone). Is that correct?
4) Is the HDMI out reliable?
I would install CM10 and call it a day, but it sounds like there are currently audio and HDMI issues on it, and those are two things we'll use a good bit.
I apologize if this is in the wrong forum, but it was the only one I saw devoted to the 8.9" version. These questions may not really matter for the differences in model, but I wanted to be sure I targeted the right audience,
Thanks for any help provided.
I've done much of what you are asking about using the following thread:-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888
It's a long read, but worth it.
I'm using GoLauncher HD, and have live wallpapers up and running too - it looks just like any other android device.
The caveats are that some apps will not install/update from Google play - but will probably work if sideloaded. Added to that, Amazon will update your tablet and remove all your hard work if they get the chance - the thread provides tools to minimise this threat as well.
PS I've got a Nexus 7 too - much better tablet in all respects except screen size - that's why I got the KF8.9 as well.
Good luck
Thanks for the quick reply. If I remember correctly, you could disable updates on previous Android devices, is this not the case with the KFHD? The software wouldn't be the newest, but data wouldn't be wiped, either.
Amazon are pushing un-notified updates through various channels - you won't know until you suddenly lose root and all your google apps.
Very friendly user facing company NOT !!!
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Amazon are pushing un-notified updates through various channels - you won't know until you suddenly lose root and all your google apps.
Very friendly user facing company NOT !!!
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Interesting. In that case, I might just sideload a launcher. Didn't know it was all going to be this much trouble
I have the kindle fire hd 8.9 and it rooted fine and I have a launcher on it which makes it look like a normal android tablet with Google apps. Have had no issues yet with Amazon forcing updates but if it happens it can't be that hard to block it.... some apps in play store won't install due to compatibility issues....but market helper app solves that.. or you can install the apk manually
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I have the kindle fire hd 8.9 and it rooted fine and I have a launcher on it which makes it look like a normal android tablet with Google apps. Have had no issues yet with Amazon forcing updates but if it happens it can't be that hard to block it.... some apps in play store won't install due to compatibility issues....but market helper app solves that.. or you can install the apk manually
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Thanks for the info. I doubt my wife would require many apps that are unavailable on Amazon anyways (if any).
I confirm that the HDMI works very well on my TV
I backed Ouya on Kickstarter, and mine finally arrived today. There have been a lot of questions, a lot of speculation, and not many answers. I will personally be attempting to install a 3'rd party launcher, Google Play apps (store, music, movies) and other games and apps I have bought over the years on the Play Store. The point of this topic is for other people who are interested in buying one or have pre-ordered one to get answers to their questions, like I couldn't.
I have been an Android user since the original Motorola Droid on Verizon, and a Custom ROM Developer for the Samsung Fascinate, HTC Thunderbolt, and Droid Bionic. I will be working on a custom ROM for the Ouya as well once we get some reasonable safety measures to ensure I don't brick it while experimenting. Feel free to ask me anything, about app compatibility, features, user interface, whatever, I'll do my best to answer. I'll also keep this topic updated with my observations and experiences with hacking and modding this console.
Since I've already gone through the trouble of tracking down working apps I figured I'd save everyone else a few minutes and collect the working ones here:
How to install: From your Ouya browser click the link for any apk's you want to download. once the downloads have completed go to: Manage > System > Advanced > Storage > Downloads and select the apk files one by one.
Netflix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Netflix_2.1.2 build 787.apk I had audio issues on some shows until I rebooted, and an occasional freeze, but just hold down the "ouya" button on the controller to back out to home and open it up again.
Hulu Plus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Hulu Plus 2.6.201000.apk Seems to be working great!
Youtube: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.google.android.youtube.googletv-2.apk Works great.
Nova Launcher: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk Works great and opens up additional options in the settings menu. I choose to use this as the default launcher, since I can still access all my ouya games, and the ouya home from it much quicker than from ouya home.
Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.dropbox.android-2.apk Works great with the controller, I use it to copy apps from my computer or phone easily.
Amazon App Store: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.amazon.venezia-2.apk Installed, logged in, and downloaded Angry birds, which didn't work so well.... Well, I mean it worked great, but was very difficult to play with the ouya controller. Time to hook up a bluetooth mouse. EDIT: after the initial time working so well, I cannot get it to work again. the main page opens but any app I click on it just brings up a blank screen. If anyone else experiences this please let me know...
XBMC: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...f76-Gotham_alpha2_stagefright-armeabi-v7a.apk This is the latest XBMC build with hardware decoding. I didn't try any local/network video yet, but the streaming video from break.com looked fine.
Pandora: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.pandora.android-1.apk Works great, but since it's the Android interface you'll have on screen adds unless you pay for prime, and the "X" to close it is very tiny. However on the plus side if you go to Settings > Developer Options > Uncheck Don't keep activities Pandora can run in the background with a 3rd party launcher. So right now I'm listening to Whitesnake and installing the next app on my list to check tonight.
Flixter: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/net.flixster.android-1.apk Works, but not always. Final Destination 5 kept freezing at the same point every time, but I watched several minutes of The Dark Knight Rises on wifi and the quality was good and I had no issues.
Chrome: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.android.chrome-1.apk Works great, but due to lack of gapps framework you can't sign in, so no tab/bookmark syncing yet.
Non-working/Glitchy:
Facebook - Installed, logged in with no problem, but the interface is far to large to use. Imagine pictures that are 2 - 3 times larger than the screen, with tiny text and you'll get the idea. plus it crashed for no reason....
Twitter - Installed, could not log on. Got the error "Cannot create account" when trying to log in.
SuperSu - Installed, but once inside it said SU needed an update, and installation of that update failed.
Commenting to subscribe to the thread, excited to hear your plans and glad to see a bit more action around here.
I would suggest talking with Rayman ( posted the OTA download thread) he's also working on some development for it and I know we wanted to get some dumps from another ouya to confirm some things.
Definitely looking forward to the comments here. I received my Ouya today and excited to see what it can do.
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I'm certainly no developer, but I've had the same results regarding the play store, for what its worth. I have superuser installed and working. I attempted to use a similar method to getting the play store on the Kindle Fire, with no luck.
Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
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Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
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I played around with it a little. I was able to stream in HD from icefilms with no major problems. The most glaring issue that I saw was if you have a video playing, and decide to pull up the menu, it can be pretty sluggish. I only played with it for about 10 minutes or so, though.
Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
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Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
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XBMC works great, but make sure to install the experimental "libstagefright" build for hardware acceleration support. If you could figure out Hulu that would be awesome, someone reported tweaking the APK a bit to get it working but never revealed what they did.
Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
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Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
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Well XBMC and OUYA both promise one for XBMC at least, and I read that they're in talks to have Hulu and Netflix officially supported as well. I imagine it'll all depend on how the reaction at launch goes.
It would be really nice, but given streaming media providers attitude toward root users I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to play nice. I still can't watch an Ultraviolet movie on my Nexus 7 without temp unrooting it...
For Hulu, find the Hulu for Google tv apk, I found it online.
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Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
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Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
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I can confirm that the googleTV youtube app works very well.
Updated OP with tons of links to tested working apps.
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Updated OP with tons of links to tested working apps.
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Thanks! Hulu is working great.
Bluetooth not working
My controller and console work but the bluetooth on my console does not want to turn on so it just constantly tries to turn on so my controller can never connect.
Any help?
Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
https://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/comment/11742/#Comment_11742
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
one note about hulu plus. THe app you posted here 2.6 does not have options for keyboard control (which was indroduced in 2.8, the latest version.) for use with the controller, keyboards etc I have a copy of the apk which i will upload as soon as I have 10 posts and can post links (almost there haha). WHen I installed 2.8 by it self, it force closed but i was able to get it working by installing 2.6 from your post and then upgrading.
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Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
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Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
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I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
Their ad used to say you only needed Android 4.2 to use it so maybe you should edit the first post to ask people if they have the old apks from earlier this year, cause older versions may work. Just a couple months ago it was working wth android 4.2. So if anyone has version 0.1.3 or older they should post the APK here. Versions 0.1.4 and 0.1.5 do not work, but older versions probably do since they only required Android 4.2. I did a google search so I know there was versions numbered 0.1.1, 0.1.2 and 0.1.3, but could not find the apk files.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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I was interested in it awhile back for my tablet for work trips. Much easier to bring along a bt keyboard and mouse to go with my tablet than both.
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
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MrPeach said:
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
MrPeach
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In the same boat myself, doesnt seem to be any developmennts yet.
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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Well as noted, what I care about is simply mounting a network share. While somewhat interesting, your comment adds nothing to this particular thread.
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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I want to be able to add a usb Ethernet adapter. The fire stick 2 allows usb devices to be added natively. Ive contacted the Fire tv support team about a possible update to allow fire stick first gen to allow this without root, they said they would take it under consideration so probably no.
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
Ichijoe said:
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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The Fire Stick has no ethernet port, it must be rooted in order to add one.
Sorry, missed that bit. Of course it (Firestick), doesn't.
Any news? Had an update mysteriously occur, moving it up to the latest firetv update. For some time, have been stuck without a solution. For list of what doesn't work at this date, neither the latest kingo root on pc with an a to a cable or the kingroot app work. Hoping sometime soon one of the remaining vulnerabilities is taken advantage of soon.
I've locked down my network in the meantime. Would recommend anybody that does care about root in the same boat as me do the same until a solution is found..
Sound advice... And BTW I do care about root. I just question the point of it on this Device. Which to my chagrin includes a bit more then the AFTV2... lol!
And, I concede their use cases aren't mine. And, at the moment the things I'd like to do on my AFTV2, which would otherwise require root as well. (i.e. PlayStore, and Dualshock 3 Support) have not brought me much joy even with root. So though I probably could have been less of a **** about it. I was generally interested in why others were so keen to root it. And I got my answer.
The only good news is that it's not a done deal with the FireOS, and eventuality another exploit shall be found, but you'll just have to hang on till then. Yeah sucks I know.
Lol. Yes it does suck.
I probably shouldn't have responded in that way either. It's hard to tell someone's intent based on a few lines in a thread. Didnt mean to come off bh.
Root has been good, was nice to be able to autostart the Kodi/spmc app and for me, using droidmote. that's a really great mouse keyboard app along with a ssh server and BusyBox... But then again, since I updated to the latest rooted ROM(5.2.1.1) in my other box, I've lost the autostart and some of the other bonuses. As much as I hate to do it, will have to start troubleshooting options maybe downgrade.
Til there's an option....
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
clarke.hackworth said:
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
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Cool, looks promising, thanks.
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
I'm in the same boat as you guys, i also wait for a 5.2.1.1 root
In my case i want to install the root-version of the moonlight streaming app which has native mouse support so i can finally play mouse/keyboard games on my home cinema (The non-root version is kinda buggy... scaling-problems, stuttering, no off-screen-movment, and so on..)
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
Ichijoe said:
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
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Yes the exploit effects Android.
FYI, the issue is a vulnerability in how the Linux kernel handles memory / files. Android is just a specific set of applications running on Linux, so it is exploitable. I have used the exploit to modify files in /system and /etc on my FireTV running 5.2.1.1.
Starting with FireTV 5.2.1.0 SELinux is enabled which is an extra layer of protection. It is good from a security stand point -- it helps protects your device from malicious apps, etc. However in our case the "attacker" is the owner of the device ... us. People are working on bypassing SELinux protections, and making progress.
See this blog for some really technical info on the current status: https://v-e-o.blogspot.com/2016/10/way-to-android-init-with-cve-2016-5195.html
drice72 said:
The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is vpn used for on the ftv aside from accessing content from different countries like Netflix and to possibly make it safer for one to stream certain content?
Well IIRC... One could set up a VPN, to log back into one Network (e.g. Network Storage), from an outside source (i.e. a Hotel Room), to push, and pull Files p, at will. But I think you managed to cover most of the "uses" of a VPN already.
Emulator ROMs
Ichijoe said:
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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As I implied in my original post - emulators generally do not support accessing network shares (where my extensive ROM collection is) directly. This leaves copying ROMs to the Fire TV itself to use them or copying my ROM collection to an external USB drive, neither option of which I find acceptable.
I want to access my extensive ROM collection directly via a SMB mapped folder on my Synology NAS, which research has informed me is only possible on a rooted device.
This isn't about Kodi, an extra ethernet port or any of the other stuff other people have mentioned in this thread.