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Sometimes when I'm in a dimmer area, my display will be so dim I can hardly see it. This doesn't happen in brighter areas.
For reference, it is far far dimmer than brightness setting 1. I have the watch set to auto brightness and ambient off.
Anyone else seeing this?
Yeah, it seems that the 360's auto brightness setting is (at least sometimes) pretty aggressive in low light conditions.
Same here, and I hate that. I always have to go into the settings when the room light is dim, and switch off auto brightness and change to the 1 setting.
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Yeah, it seems that the 360's auto brightness setting is (at least sometimes) pretty aggressive in low light conditions.
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I'm almost positive it's a bug, the low brightness of 1 isn't too bright for very dark situations and the dimmed mode is simply too dim.
I'm pretty sure auto-brightness should turn on at level 1 (if it's dark) and then go to the ultra-dimmed mode before the screen times-out just like in normal brightness.
I don't think I've seen this bug happen in the daytime though, so it does seem like a bug at brightness level 1 only
Any solution to this problem? Drives me crazy.
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Smart Brightness for Moto 360
Try Smart Brightness for Moto 360. This application allows to set auto brightness with a minimum brightness to avoid a dimm screen on dark situations.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.makinke.smartbrightness
In a 100% dark area (movie theater, etc.), when I flick my wrist to turn on the watch, it turned on with full brightness on. It stay there indefinitely... sometimes it'll go away by itself, other time I have to do something, like swiping cards before the screen will go dim.
In a semi (50% dark), the screen will not turn on to its full brightness, but at... dim. WTH?!
Stick watch face?
I've noticed this as well (when driving at night). Since it turns on all the time (I steer with the same hand I wear my watch on), I've noticed lots of strange behavior. Sometimes it turns on very bright, and then goes back to sleep. Sometimes it turns on bright and then dims to the minimal brightness that it should be. Sometimes it turns on with the appropriate, minimum brightness. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. I'm running a stock watch face, and have very few apps installed.
As someone offered up 'muting' the watch while driving in another thread as a possible solution, it doesn't help me. Whether or not the watch is muted, it still wakes up all the time, and varying brightness levels.
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Stick watch face?
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Emm...you mean stock watch face? If yes, I am using the classic one.
Auto brightness works well for me with ambient mode ON, I think I remember it being buggy with ambient mode OFF, what is yours set to?
v3ngence said:
Auto brightness works well for me with ambient mode ON, I think I remember it being buggy with ambient mode OFF, what is yours set to?
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I have ambient mode OFF to save battery. Will turning it on fix the issue? I use Sleep as Android for sleep tracking and turn Ambient off and it lights up here and there at night.
Cut it out guys. ..or this thread will be locked
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Cut it out guys. ..or this thread will be locked
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^^This...well probably not locked
I did a little thread cleaning to remove the off topic arguments about using a device (phone or watch) in a movie theatre. There were a lot of people who quoted these posts, and unfortunately I had to remove these posts as well...sorry for that.
Here is the thing, this thread is about the buggy behavior of the watch waking up at full brightness. It doesn't matter if it is in a theatre, whilst driving the car, or you just woke up in the middle of the night and want to check the time. More that one person has reported the issue and there has been a proposed fix...please keep the thread focused on finding the root causes, fixes, work arounds, etc. No matter what, please knock off the name calling, that will only get you into trouble!
Thanks!:good:
lanwarrior said:
I have ambient mode OFF to save battery. Will turning it on fix the issue? I use Sleep as Android for sleep tracking and turn Ambient off and it lights up here and there at night.
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Try turning ambient mode ON during the day,
I just tested and with it off the screen does occasionally come on at full brightness even in the dark. With ambient on it only comes on bright the first time, quickly dims, and stays dim until taken into daylight :good:
v3ngence said:
Try turning ambient mode ON during the day,
I just tested and with it off the screen does occasionally come on at full brightness even in the dark. With ambient on it only comes on bright the first time, quickly dims, and stays dim until taken into daylight :good:
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Interesting. So with ambient ON, it still turn on at full brightness but momentarily. I'll test this and will report back.
Well, I'm having the opposite problem following the last update.
it frequently (at work right now, for example) comes up EXTREMELY dim, I'd guess maybe 5x dimmer than brightness setting '1'.
I'm setting it to '1' as a workaround for now.
- Frank
Wait for the next 5.0 update. .there's options like theater mode. ..and other brightness modes coming to wear
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Smart Brightness for Moto 360
Try the application "smart brightness for moto 360" from the Google play. With this application you can set a minimum brightness and better view in low light environments.
With the minimum set to 20% and auto brightness on you will get better battery life and better experience in dark situation.
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Try the application "smart brightness for moto 360" from the Google play. With this application you can set a minimum brightness and better view in low light environments.
With the minimum set to 20% and auto brightness on you will get better battery life and better experience in dark situation.
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Instant buy. Thanks allot, that makes in combination with the 5.0 update, Watchmaker and Bubble Cloud Launcher my watch perfect.
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Try the application "smart brightness for moto 360" from the Google play. With this application you can set a minimum brightness and better view in low light environments.
With the minimum set to 20% and auto brightness on you will get better battery life and better experience in dark situation.
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Sadly, the auto brightness doesn't seem to work...yeah, just realized that after using it for a week.
Smart Brightness for Moto 360
TheGoD said:
Sadly, the auto brightness doesn't seem to work...yeah, just realized that after using it for a week.
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The application really works. If you want see how works, do the followings steps:
1. open Smart Brightness App
2. Turn on the application
3. Set the minimum brightness to 20%
4. Turn on the auto brightness.
5. Go to a dark room and wait until Moto360 to turn off the screen.
6. Touch the screen to wakeup the screen. (This is necessary because the Smart Brightness application start when the screen is on and stop when the screen is off).
You will see a clear image after this steps. Now go to the smart brightness app and turn it off (Using the on/off switch located at the top of the screen). Repeat the steps 5 and 6. Now the screen will look dark, because it is the factory auto brightness.
I recommend to use the 7 days trial. After 7 days after using it you will notice the difference.
I'm using this app over a month and works fine. Please let me know any other concern about the application.
For me its not the low light the problem as this works, is outside doens't go bright enough in direct sunlight
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no problems
i have always used it, never experienced any problems
Moto 360 on the second generation does not work
Fabio
I've had the watch since tuesday, but am having a problem with it: when going into ambient, screen visibly dims, but ends up lighting back up... Tried several brightness settings, and it does it with all, except maximum brightness (ie 5).
So basically, when going into ambient, the screen progressively dims, but then brights up and ends up settling at the ambient brightness level it should reach when brightness is set at 5.
Have tried several watch faces, and factory resetting, but it doesn't change a thing.
Anyone experiences that?
Also tried setting brightness with Autowear: only the awake brightness is affected- the ambient brightness always stays the same...
For what is worth, it's particularly obvious with the Dandy default watch face, as it's the same in awake and ambient mode (minus the seconds hand). Set this one up, set brightness at 1, get in a low lit room, and then, I for one see the ambient brightness get dimmer, then get visibly brighter and settle there... Not that obvious in a bright room, but blatant in a dark one.
Also, I realized the watch reports the Android Wear version is 1.3.0.2176821 while it's the latest 1.3.0.2284253 on the phone. Same as, the watch reports the Google Play Services version is 8.1.20 (2283517-534) while it is 8.1.15 (2250156230) on the phone. Don't know if it matters...
Just turn on theatre mode when charging.
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Just turn on theatre mode when charging.
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That, I already do. But the sun sets long before I go to bed, and lay the watch on the charger. And it's as soon as the sun sets that the watch is much too bright to me in ambient mode...
I've seen a couple posts about delays with adaptive brightness, but this is a different item. I'm seeing that the adaptive brightness alters the brightness a little too dramatically. In a somewhat dark room (not pitch black) the brightness will be at absolute minimum even when the brightness is about 1/3 up on the slider. In a moderately bright room that same brightness setting will be near maximum.
Does anyone else notice this as an issue? I'm just wondering if it's normal (ie, software calibration issue) or if the brightness sensor might not be seated correctly.
It's normal. Or at least it sounds like it is working the same way mine is. And yes, IMO it is a little too sensitive. The Lux app works beautifully if you want an alternative. Also, the goog is known for tweaking this feature over time with updates.
I've noticed this too. The biggest thing for me is walking down the street at dusk (so not dark out yet) I can't read the screen as it turns it all the way down, then, when I walk under a street light, it turns it all the way up to full! It's one extreme or the other, there seems to be no middle ground.
In other words "adaptive brightness has mind of its own!"
This is why I have always kept this setting off. The brightness just changing on its own always annoyed me.
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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I agree. I have it set to maybe around 15-20% (centered over the WiFi symbol below it) and I never need to touch it. Gets dark enough for night driving and bright enough to read outside. Never found it stuck on one or the other when it shouldn't be.
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If you buy the app Lux you can customize how it adapts your brightness. The free version is good to but you have to use mostly default settings. By default it only adapts brightness when the screen turns on.
This is my first AMOLED screen phone and something I think I may be noticing that maybe you guys can help confirm or deny about AMOLEDs vs LCDs, is that at night when turning the brightness down (way down, like -50 in the Lux Dash app as an example) results in getting the screen to a point where not bright enough to hurt your eyes at all but the blacks are too dark. So there's no real ideal brightness setting in a dark room that equals no eye pain but still allows you to able to see everything on the screen. Or are my eyes just too sensitive and most other people don't need to turn it down as much as I do and therefore don't have this problem?
You tried night mode
Lux is garbage. Factory adaptive brightness and still being able to use the brightness slider to allow on-the-fly adjustments is far superior - it works perfectly on this phone. And in a pitch black room, with adaptive brightness, setting the slider from 0-25% results in an extremely dim screen (1-2 nits) will information still perfectly viewable. Blacks may have uniformity issues, but that is the nature of OLED panels since it is extremely hard to control voltage at near-black levels when the brightness is extremely low.
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This is my first AMOLED screen phone and something I think I may be noticing that maybe you guys can help confirm or deny about AMOLEDs vs LCDs, is that at night when turning the brightness down (way down, like -50 in the Lux Dash app as an example) results in getting the screen to a point where not bright enough to hurt your eyes at all but the blacks are too dark. So there's no real ideal brightness setting in a dark room that equals no eye pain but still allows you to able to see everything on the screen. Or are my eyes just too sensitive and most other people don't need to turn it down as much as I do and therefore don't have this problem?
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Amoled displays, when used with automatic brightness adjustment, have a small problem - when you are viewing them in the dark, they appear too dark. Their contrast ratio is infinity, which means that dark colors are basically zero luminosity or close to zero. A lot of internet imagery is calibrated for lcd displays, so when you lower your phone brightness to make the brightest parts viewable on an amoled display, the dark colors become too dark and blend together. This is especially true when you are viewing a screen in a dark environment. There's nothing you can do but increase device brightness by hand when you are using automatic brightness adjustment and viewing in the dark,
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Lux is garbage. Factory adaptive brightness and still being able to use the brightness slider to allow on-the-fly adjustments is far superior - it works perfectly on this phone. And in a pitch black room, with adaptive brightness, setting the slider from 0-25% results in an extremely dim screen (1-2 nits) will information still perfectly viewable. Blacks may have uniformity issues, but that is the nature of OLED panels since it is extremely hard to control voltage at near-black levels when the brightness is extremely low.
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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WHAT? You have it totally backwards. Stock Android, including the Pixel, uses user input to augment the auto light sensor brightness when adaptive brightness is enabled. If my phone thinks 50% brightness is appropriate, but my slider is set to 100, it will choose something like 75% brightness instead. If I drop the slider to 0% in the same instance, it might choose 25% instead. The user preference will ALWAYS be impacting auto brightness.
Samsung phones, unless it changed with Nougat, rely strictly on what the phone thinks is best for auto brightness. The user can adjust the slider with auto brightness on, but the slider is a direct adjustment 0-100% of the true brightness level, and the slider will change automatically when there is a large shift in ambient light after the display has been turned off at least once. User preference does NOT impact auto brightness unless you set it at that specific moment.
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WHAT? You have it totally backwards. Stock Android, including the Pixel, uses user input to augment the auto light sensor brightness when adaptive brightness is enabled. If my phone thinks 50% brightness is appropriate, but my slider is set to 100, it will choose something like 75% brightness instead. If I drop the slider to 0% in the same instance, it might choose 25% instead. The user preference will ALWAYS be impacting auto brightness.
Samsung phones, unless it changed with Nougat, rely strictly on what the phone thinks is best for auto brightness. The user can adjust the slider with auto brightness on, but the slider is a direct adjustment 0-100% of the true brightness level, and the slider will change automatically when there is a large shift in ambient light after the display has been turned off at least once. User preference does NOT impact auto brightness unless you set it at that specific moment.
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Girl, are you kidding me? I just returned a Note 7 for Pixel XL. What were your phones?
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Amoled displays, when used with automatic brightness adjustment, have a small problem - when you are viewing them in the dark, they appear too dark. Their contrast ratio is infinity, which means that dark colors are basically zero luminosity or close to zero. A lot of internet imagery is calibrated for lcd displays, so when you lower your phone brightness to make the brightest parts viewable on an amoled display, the dark colors become too dark and blend together. This is especially true when you are viewing a screen in a dark environment. There's nothing you can do but increase device brightness by hand when you are using automatic brightness adjustment and viewing in the dark,
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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Girl, are you kidding me? I just returned a Note 7 for Pixel XL. What were your phones?
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I have a Note7, Pixel XL, and LG V20. Google how adaptive brightness works. There won't be a single article that matches how you say it works.
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I have a Note7, Pixel XL, and LG V20. Google how adaptive brightness works. There won't be a single article that matches how you say it works.
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Give me evidence. I don't care what your hypothetical "articles" say, I had the actual phones and played with their brightness settings.
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Give me evidence. I don't care what your hypothetical "articles" say, I had the actual phones and played with their brightness settings.
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If you seriously can't tell how adaptive brightness works just by using it as compared to Samsung and LG, I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty damn obvious. If I'm the kind of person who prefers a bright screen, I can set adaptive brightness to 100% and it will always be bright, but stay relative to the ambient lighting. If it's a dim room, the screen will be bright, but nowhere near 100% manual brightness. It only hits 100% manual brightness when under bright light like the sun.
Samsung's auto brightness is still very cookie cutter. If you put 2 Samsung phones side by side with auto brightness on, they will always be the same no matter the ambient light. If I take 2 Pixels, both set to adaptive, and put one on 25% and one in 75%, they will always maintain a brightness difference even when ambient light changes. Samsung phones do not maintain user preferences once the ambient light level changes. I almost never have to adjust my Pixel. I always have to adjust my Note7 because I prefer a slightly brighter screen.
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If you seriously can't tell how adaptive brightness works just by using it as compared to Samsung and LG, I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty damn obvious. If I'm the kind of person who prefers a bright screen, I can set adaptive brightness to 100% and it will always be bright, but stay relative to the ambient lighting. If it's a dim room, the screen will be bright, but nowhere near 100% manual brightness. It only hits 100% manual brightness when under bright light like the sun.
Samsung's auto brightness is still very cookie cutter. If you put 2 Samsung phones side by side with auto brightness on, they will always be the same no matter the ambient light. If I take 2 Pixels, both set to adaptive, and put one on 25% and one in 75%, they will always maintain a brightness difference even when ambient light changes. Samsung phones do not maintain user preferences once the ambient light level changes. I almost never have to adjust my Pixel. I always have to adjust my Note7 because I prefer a slightly brighter screen.
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What you are saying is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of my experience with Note 7 and Pixel XL. I NEVER had to adjust my Note 7 brightness once I set it.
I find myself constantly adjusting Pixel XL brightness setting.
Maybe they both have "adaptive brightness", but the Note 7 version was perfect, and the Pixel XL is just sh`1rt.
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What you are saying is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of my experience with Note 7 and Pixel XL. I NEVER had to adjust my Note 7 brightness once I set it.
I find myself constantly adjusting Pixel XL brightness setting.
Maybe they both have "adaptive brightness", but the Note 7 version was perfect, and the Pixel XL is just sh`1rt.
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Or maybe you two just have differing opinions on what a "perfect" brightness setting is...
Doesn't matter how you adjust your brightness. I'm just saying that when brightness is low, blacks are darker and disproportionate to other colors.
I love Lux especially with it's profiles. Much better control and accuracy than adaptive brightness. I just wish Lux had an auto-profile switcher based on time of day. I have a day profile, night profile, and car profile.
One thing to note is that Lux allows me to bring the darkness down below 0% to negative values, which is where I usually notice my concerns. But that's what I need to not hurt my eyes at night. So I don't blame the phone or anything - just posted this article out of curiosity. The blacks are probably just turning off completely at some point when I bring the value to below 0% which I think makes sense based on the nature of OLED.
You should just turn on night mode to help with eye strain. If 0% brightness is too bright I don't think you will ever get lux to work the way you want, but night mode helps my eyes a lot.
Pixel XL adaptive brightness adapts to what you set the brightness to. If you go from 0 to 100 in a totally dark room, you notice how the screen stays really bright and doesn't go back to 0 on Pix
Many phones use auto brightness to fullly determine brightness based on sensor and ignores user brightness. If you go from 0 to 100 with an auto brightness phone, the phone will go back to 0.
Some prefer one over the other.