Many people have been talking about weaker signal strength and lte issues and what not. Well the T-Mobile version is supposed to support AT&T bands. My nexus 5 wasn't built specifically for AT&T but I had solid signal for the most part. I don't have the nexus 5 anymore but could I expect the same signal strength roughly as I did with the nexus 5 with the t mobile note 4?
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How is the reception on 3G/4G compared to other AT&T Phones? People on the Verizon forum are complaining about poor reception.
I believe my sgs2 skyrocket had better reception... Need to test a bit more though.
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I get as good of a signal, if not better then my galaxy note. Only HSDPA+ though as at&t is the only NON lte or equivalent carrier here in Hell Paso Tx
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My signal is ok but it always shows as yellow in battery screen. Very rarely ts green as One X was.
Reception has been great for me so far. I don't notice it being any different than my Atrix, which had fantastic reception.
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Reception has been great for me so far. I don't notice it being any different than my Atrix, which had fantastic reception.
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Good to hear that the reception seems to be as good as the Atrix. IMO, Motorolas have the best Antennae. Must be some something specific to the radios for the Verizon network that causes the S3 to be seemingly having reception problem. Galaxy Nexus on Verizon was definitely subpar when it came to radio reception whereas the International GSM Nexus version seemed fine.
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It could be down to the phone, but I say its AT&T. I live in London, but when I was in Los Angeles a few weeks back, the house I was staying in Culvery City would get no coverage or it would come and go and would be on one bar of voice and not data before or sometimes edge, my aunt who lives in LA who I was staying with has an iPhone and she had the same problem. It wasn't until you went up the street I would get 2 - 3 bars of HSPA+ coverage. I think AT&T coverage nationwide is spotty, here in the UK its different we have 98% coverage, I have 4-5 bars of HSPA+ whereever I go. We don't have the big LTE 4G coverage here in the UK though on any of the networks. Couldnt of used T-Mobile as the frequencies they use for 3G aren't supported my International aka UK Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300, would only get voice and no data/edge data. Having AT&T go phone HSPA+ coverage was great and made my Holiday a lot easier and more enjoyable, however I have to say in Vegas the coverage was a lot better.
Anyone else having insanely slow 4G speeds on their Android devices after the iPhone 5 release? I did a side-by-side speedtest on the same server, 35mbps on the iPhone 5 and 5mpbs on the Galaxy Nexus.
I do believe the iphone 5 is lte and the galaxy nexus is not, just hsdpa. The lte network also has fewer phones currently due to being new and only in few markets.
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I do believe the iphone 5 is lte and the galaxy nexus is not, just hsdpa. The lte network also has fewer phones currently due to being new and only in few markets.
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The 2 cdma (sprint and verizon) variants of the galaxy nexus in the USA are lte devices.
@op, no. On verizon results are right on par with previous speed results with lte on the nexus.
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Anyone else having insanely slow 4G speeds on their Android devices after the iPhone 5 release? I did a side-by-side speedtest on the same server, 35mbps on the iPhone 5 and 5mpbs on the Galaxy Nexus.
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If LTE was being affected, it would slow down speeds for both phones assuming they're in the same place on the same network (and tower). The iPhone doesn't have its own separate network...
One phone getting 35mbps and another 5mbps is a fluke. They should both be roughly the same assuming they have the same signal strength.
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One phone getting 35mbps and another 5mbps is a fluke. They should both be roughly the same assuming they have the same signal strength.
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and assuming you used the same location (as in the server location) for the speed test.
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verzion bc it has many tower... if there is no tower close by then you will not get 4g or 3g u will be on edge..
how i know.. my co-worker called up sprint to see whats wrong with his samsung galaxy s3
Is it possible the account for the nexus is in the 5% that gets throttled on high traffic towers?
So whenever I'm in a call on my T-Mobile Note II, it drops LTE and drops to HSPA, is there any reason for this? I was under the assumption that the Note II can do SVLTE
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The T-Mobile note II doesn't have its own dedicated LTE antenna like basic sy every other phone besides the iPhone 5? Why did Samsung choose to make the Note II like this and why cant I find anything on the internet about it? Seems this should be as easy to find out as the I phone's flaw with LTE. But again, why did Samsung choose to make it this way? Especially when ALL of their other LTE phones support SVLTE?
Oh, and what's your source? I'd like to read up on this not-so-publicised flaw.
You do realize every other LTE device right now drops to either HSPA or CDMA while utilizing voice functions? I have had many, many LTE devices and can verify this.
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You do realize every other LTE device right now drops to either HSPA or CDMA while utilizing voice functions? I have had many, many LTE devices and can verify this.
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My Verizon Galaxy Nexus, DROID RAZR M, HTC Rezound and, HTC Thunderbolt, all did SVLTE. The iPhone 5 is the only device where the internet made it well known that it is incapable of doing SVLTE because the vast majority of devices devices are capable of it. I mean, if most weren't, then no one would've made a big deal about the iPhone 5 not doing it. Cause that would be hypocritical.
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My Verizon Galaxy Nexus, DROID RAZR M, HTC Rezound and, HTC Thunderbolt, all did SVLTE. The iPhone 5 is the only device where the internet made it well known that it is incapable of doing SVLTE because the vast majority of devices devices are capable of it. I mean, if most weren't, then no one would've made a big deal about the iPhone 5 not doing it. Cause that would be hypocritical.
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Seeing how Verizon does not have voice over LTE, and as far as I know, no one does since the only way to implement it is extremely costly right now, i highly doubt you had voice over LTE. Your Verizon phones used voice over cdma, and data over LTE, allowing both at the same time. This is why LTE sucks your battery dry on Verizon. It is running two radios at once. Since LTE is an evolution of gsm there is no need for two radios and so you see better battery life at a loss of LTE data while in call.
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Seeing how Verizon does not have voice over LTE, and as far as I know, no one does since the only way to implement it is extremely costly right now, i highly doubt you had voice over LTE. Your Verizon phones used voice over cdma, and data over LTE, allowing both at the same time. This is why LTE sucks your battery dry on Verizon. It is running two radios at once. Since LTE is an evolution of gsm there is no need for two radios and so you see better battery life at a loss of LTE data while in call.
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I said SVLTE, not VOLTE. SVLTE is Simultaneous Voice + LTE while VoLTE is Voice-over LTE.
And on GSM phones that have LTE, they run 2 radios as well. One for LTE or HSPA and one for GSM. As you said, no one is using VoLTE yet. And our GSM/LTE phones need to maintain a connection to GSM even when connected to LTE so that we can still make calls and send/recieve texts.
Theres your proof bud. Just because it isnt what you want to hear doesnt mean its not the reality of the situation.
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I said SVLTE, not VOLTE. SVLTE is Simultaneous Voice + LTE while VoLTE is Voice-over LTE.
And on GSM phones that have LTE, they run 2 radios as well. One for LTE or HSPA and one for GSM. As you said, no one is using VoLTE yet. And our GSM/LTE phones need to maintain a connection to GSM even when connected to LTE so that we can still make calls and send/recieve texts.
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Okay to be honest I'm not 100% sure about the number of radios, fairly certain (~75%) only one radio is needed (the 7105 based note 2s have 2 radios, the dormant SoC radio and the GSM/HSPA/LTE radio). I do know you don't drop to GSM for calls, you drop to UMTS otherwise known as WCDMA and can hand off to GSM if needed.
There are plenty of areas with no GSM coverage but have UMTS/HSPA coverage. All these radios are evolutions of GSM and can have VoWHATEVER just no one has done VoLTE or VoHSPA, except T-Mobile has rolled out VoHSPA since the beginning of this year).
This is why your battery will take a hit on HSPA or LTE but not nearly as much as on a CDMA phone.
You are right in that most applications (barring tmobile now) use circuit switched GSM/UMTS for voice, not packet switched UMTS/HSPA/LTE.
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Okay to be honest I'm not 100% sure about the number of radios, fairly certain (~75%) only one radio is needed (the 7105 based note 2s have 2 radios, the dormant SoC radio and the GSM/HSPA/LTE radio). I do know you don't drop to GSM for calls, you drop to UMTS otherwise known as WCDMA and can hand off to GSM if needed.
There are plenty of areas with no GSM coverage but have UMTS/HSPA coverage. All these radios are evolutions of GSM and can have VoWHATEVER just no one has done VoLTE or VoHSPA, except T-Mobile has rolled out VoHSPA since the beginning of this year).
This is why your battery will take a hit on HSPA or LTE but not nearly as much as on a CDMA phone.
You are right in that most applications (barring tmobile now) use circuit switched GSM/UMTS for voice, not packet switched UMTS/HSPA/LTE.
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Oh I can tell my battery takes a hit on LTE! Much more than when I was on Verizon! I just attributed it to the weak signal though.
But you're saying most LTE/GSM phones fall back to HSPA if they were on LTE? I didn't know that. Please excuse my ignorance
Note 4 LTE Bands
So I am at Ft.Bragg NC and have not been having the most stellar service with my new galaxy note 4. I began to look into this issue and do several tests. The note 4 seems to default to this new XLTE band 4 that verizon came out with regardless of signal strength or data speed. From what I have seen with my other coworkers phones that are on verizon, there phones do the same thing. Why is it that it defaults to a signal that is painfully slow and also a far weaker signal? Is there a way to change it back to the stronger LTE band? (Band 13) Also I know that band 13 is stronger because I can reset the data connection or cycle it on and off, it will then go to the standard band 13 then eventually default back to band 4 every once in a while heading back to 13.
Others phones I have observed this were, iPhone 6 and Droid turbo.
try a free app called 4G LTE Switch from the play store. It appears to be able to force certain connections. It looks like force 3g/4g but I dont know if you can pick between lte/xlte. Hope that helps some.
Hello,
Quick question here,
I'm getting a 10 but i really want to hows the LTE performs on this phone. I just need an idea of how strong the 4G signal I might get. To get into the perspectives, my HTC M8 gets between 1 to 2 bar max LTE stationary in my room. (As I'm typing this)
Can I expct the new 10 will get me between 3 to 4 bars? Or 3 bars of signal strengh at least since it has a latest LTE catogery from what I understand?
Thank you very much for your time.
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Hello,
Quick question here,
I'm getting a 10 but i really want to hows the LTE performs on this phone. I just need an idea of how strong the 4G signal I might get. To get into the perspectives, my HTC M8 gets between 1 to 2 bar max LTE stationary in my room. (As I'm typing this)
Can I expct the new 10 will get me between 3 to 4 bars? Or 3 bars of signal strengh at least since it has a latest LTE catogery from what I understand?
Thank you very much for your time.
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Just because the HTC 10 is LTE CAT 9 capable does not mean it will give you a better signal. Your carrier and your location in reference to the cell towers will be the deciding factor on how strong your LTE signal is. It will also depend on the modem and the antenna for LTE. What is your actual signal dBm right now with the current device you are referring to?
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There you go. HTC One M8.
mybnr34 said:
There you go. HTC One M8.
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That is a really poor signal. That also makes LTE nearly unusable. What does your 3G signal look like? Can you toggle 2G/3G/LTE? Do you know what LTE band you are connected to most of the time? Try LTE Discovery from the Play Store. Open the app and in the top left corner it will show your signal dBm and the band.
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