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HTC has bucked the trend here, as before the "Desire" range has been considered a mid-range series, not so with the HTC Desire Eye, here we have a fully featured high-end device. With a powerful quad-core Snapdragon 801 processor running at 2.3 GHz backed up with 2GB of RAM and the usual HTC check boxes such as Boom sound, the Desire eye certainly looks like an interesting device. The one stand out feature is a exceptionally large pixel front camera, at 13MP (same as the rear camera) high resolution selfies are certainly on the cards.
So who will take the plastic over the metal of the M8, and why would members choose this device?
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I'm planning on finally replacing my 4 year old iPhone 4 and getting a new phone next month, and depending on the price of this thing I might get this one
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IMHO it looks like a better phone than the M8. I for actually like the design a lot more than the M8's (which I actually didn't really like the design of all that much), and this blue one you have pictured here looks especially nice. And I don't really care about metal vs plastic, I'm not actually sure what the big deal is, but that's just my opinion. And in addition the flap-less high water-resistance is really awesome indeed. The camera is also apparently better, though I think the 13MP "selfie" cam is overkill.
The thing I really don't like about this phone however about this phone is it's physical size. It is way bigger than a 5-inch phone has any right to be. In fact, it is almost as big as the Galaxy Note 3/4 as shown in this comparison here. That was one of my main gripes with the M8 as well - the reason for that size is the excellent BoomSound speakers, but IMHO no speaker-quality is worth that much increase in bezels and size (especially since I really don't care all that much about speakers since I usually just rather use headphones). The Desire Eye is even bigger than the M8 (though both are 5' displays) because of that ludicrous 13MP "selfie" camera which is just piontless.
So will I get it? Well that really depends on the price. Currently I am planning on getting the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact for $520 next month. I'd really rather not get a 5-inch device that's the size of a Galaxy Note, but if the price is really attractive (this supposedly being a "budget" series phone) than I might still get it.
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So will I get it? Well that really depends on the price. Currently I am planning on getting the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact for $520 next month. I'd really rather not get a 5-inch device that's the size of a Galaxy Note, but if the price is really attractive (this supposedly being a "budget" series phone) than I might still get it.
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In The Netherlands retailers priced it at 499 EUR
And, I'm getting this device no matter what, I've already pre-ordered it on a 2-year contract.
Will wait to see how the camera performs. If it's great, I might get it. If it's mediocre, I'll just wait for the M9.
Im thinking about it, but i still want to see some reviews and reviews about the camera. I also need to see what the price is going to be in my carrier and what price i can get it.
By the way, does anyone know a especial reason why it doesnt have 4k video? It's not very important, but htc could have used the hardware to introduce the 4k which is something a lot of the other flagships have and the hardware seems capable of it
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Im thinking about it, but i still want to see some reviews and reviews about the camera. I also need to see what the price is going to be in my carrier and what price i can get it.
By the way, does anyone know a especial reason why it doesnt have 4k video? It's not very important, but htc could have used the hardware to introduce the 4k which is something a lot of the other flagships have and the hardware seems capable of it
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Don't worry, someone will probably port 4k video to this phone, as it should be capable of doing so.
little update on release date: My carrier (dutch) expects the phone to be available within 2 weeks.
I thought that also. Hopefully some devolopers will get this phone and work on it, it seems to be a good phone. However, since there isn't any htc phone with 4k in the market (that i know of), won't that make it more difficult? I don't know much about software but i always thought some of those added feature were ported from software. Or maybe its just "unlock"/add a new resolution to the video software.
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I thought that also. Hopefully some devolopers will get this phone and work on it, it seems to be a good phone. However, since there isn't any htc phone with 4k in the market (that i know of), won't that make it more difficult? I don't know much about software but i always thought some of those added feature were ported from software. Or maybe its just "unlock"/add a new resolution to the video software.
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From what I've heard, it's depending on the CPU and it's capabilities. The reason for the HTC One m7 and m8 not getting 4k was that, if you want to shoot in 4k resolution, you need a camera with over 8mp.
Luckily, our HTC Desire Eye gets a 13 MP camera and a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 which, according to their spec list, supports 4k playback and recording, the thing that needs to be done is modify the camera apk and add the missing libraries.
The same was done on the Xperia Z1, here is the discussion with some usefull things;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2768422
And the actual dev thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53165575
Thank you for the links! I remember reading about that and i was hopeful that someone would do the same for this phone. However, i think its a port from the z2 software because the z2 does 4k from stock (although i think they all do know from stock via update, not sure) and htc never had 4k in any of their phones.
But when the phone is released we will probably know more about this.
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Thank you for the links! I remember reading about that and i was hopeful that someone would do the same for this phone. However, i think its a port from the z2 software because the z2 does 4k from stock (although i think they all do know from stock via update, not sure) and htc never had 4k in any of their phones.
But when the phone is released we will probably know more about this.
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Look, their old devices never had the capability of supporting it, because either their camera's were lacking 8mp or their processors couldn't handle it.
Example;
HTC Desire 816 13MP camera, https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/400
HTC Desire 616 8MP camera, some cheapass octa-core by Mediatek.
Tuberomix said:
. . . The Desire Eye is even bigger than the M8 (though both are 5' displays) . . .
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Actually the Desire Eye has a 5.2" screen which explains the larger exterior dimensions.
Good to know! Thanks!
I just noticed on gsmarena and with a google search that there is no mention of 120fps slow motion recording. I assumes it did slow motion from stock but it only mentions 30fps full HD. One thing i liked on the m8 camera was that slow motion could be edited to pick what parts to slow down and it seems to be missing on this phone.
Anyone knows or read anything about slow motion recording? Again, it has the hardware for it but htc seems to be cutting down the software :/
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I just noticed on gsmarena and with a google search that there is no mention of 120fps slow motion recording. I assumes it did slow motion from stock but it only mentions 30fps full HD. One thing i liked on the m8 camera was that slow motion could be edited to pick what parts to slow down and it seems to be missing on this phone.
Anyone knows or read anything about slow motion recording? Again, it has the hardware for it but htc seems to be cutting down the software :/
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Since the "Eye Experience" is also present on the One M8 and M7 now, it will probably be the same for our phone, anyways if not present, we can probably port it easily.
Looks like a mighty interesting phone. I always though the desire series was the more attractive side of HTC. I might have to ditch my iPhone 6 for this. Pangu is a joke!
I've been eyeing (ha!) this and the Note 4, the deciding factor will be if the Desire is easily rootable. The Note is not. What are your thoughts on rooting the Desire?
I have a Desire Eye from HTC, I can say the front camera is very nice and the brand new Eye Experience functions looks cool too.
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Hey all
HTC has bucked the trend here, as before the "Desire" range has been considered a mid-range series, not so with the HTC Desire Eye, here we have a fully featured high-end device. With a powerful quad-core Snapdragon 801 processor running at 2.3 GHz backed up with 2GB of RAM and the usual HTC check boxes such as Boom sound, the Desire eye certainly looks like an interesting device. The one stand out feature is a exceptionally large pixel front camera, at 13MP (same as the rear camera) high resolution selfies are certainly on the cards.
So who will take the plastic over the metal of the M8, and why would members choose this device?
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Getting mine tomorrow with the mail.
tsuishui said:
I have a Desire Eye from HTC, I can say the front camera is very nice and the brand new Eye Experience functions looks cool too.
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How's the sound quality? And battery life?
I'm probably going to pick one up tomorrow...Almost grabbed a HTC One M8 Google Play Edition today, but decided to hold off and try one of these out, I know AT&T is going to brand the crap out of the phone, that is the only bad thing...I'm a big HTC fan boy, but the camera on the One M8 caused me to drift to try other devices over the last few months...I talked about 8 of my friends into buying the phone and they all love it...
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seems both those phones will be a variation of the desire HD
however seems htc is intending to ruin it all for me
i read somewhere the inspire specs sheet lists SLCD for the display is this confirmed anywhere?
either way beautiful metalic phones from HTC, i've been using the androi-ed HD2 for the past few days (temporarily) going back to my DHD feels like a return to luxury
what do you think guys? are we paying the price of having it earlier?
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http://androidandme.com/2011/01/carriers/verizon/htc-and-verizon-announce-the-lte-4g-enabled-htc-thunderbolt/
is this SLCD or BS? i think it is i can live with that as long as HTC doesn't screw us and release an SLCD euro edition
thunderbolt has 8GB internal + 32GB and 1400mah battery! (gotta love US carriers) http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon#tech-specs
inpsire has 4GB internal everything else the same as ours, i don't know about SLCD http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
I wonder how much they'll cost outright in comparison to the DHD. It's interesting to see they've ditched the SIM cover mechanism on the Thunderbolt and moved the USB port sideways. Also it seems a bit thicker, which is probably how they got a larger capacity battery fitted (judging by the pics alone)... Front camera is a major difference on it. Display wise I'm not sure, how would SLCD differ to whatever DHD has. My main concern with display on the DHD is poor visibility under sunlight (would SLCD improve on that?).
As to the Inspire vs DHD, they seem very similar in all aspects:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3706&idPhone2=3468
I'm happy with my DHD for the most part because I went from a Nokia E71 which was quite an upgrade for me...
Edit: 1 more link http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2598&id2=2657
By the way what are the odds of HTC not updating DHD frequently as a result of needing to focus on these new models?
It sure does look like SLCD to me. And concerning updates, HTC Europe is responsible for the updates in Europe, while their US counterpart are reponsible for the US. I doubt they'll leave us behind considering the DHD is their flagship device in Europe. Have a look at the original Desire, it was the first HTC device to receive Froyo if my memory serves me well (could be the EVO beat it by a matter of days) and is still receiving updates (last one was a couple of weeks ago).
My next phone will be the Motorola Atrix. Period !
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i don't get this -.-
this phone looks just awesome! SLCD, Simcard cover on the side , battery,front cam .. wtf? i don't get why htc does this .. i would have gladly waited for 2-3 months to buy a phone like this .. i don't know how you guys feel but i really think we bought some kind of defective overprized prototype phone
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i don't get this -.-
this phone looks just awesome! SLCD, Simcard cover on the side , battery,front cam .. wtf? i don't get why htc does this .. i would have gladly waited for 2-3 months to buy a phone like this .. i don't know how you guys feel but i really think we bought some kind of defective overprized prototype phone
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Call us guinea pigs
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hamdir said:
seems both those phones will be a variation of the desire HD
however seems htc is intending to ruin it all for me
i read somewhere the inspire specs sheet lists SLCD for the display is this confirmed anywhere?
either way beautiful metalic phones from HTC, i've been using the androi-ed HD2 for the past few days (temporarily) going back to my DHD feels like a return to luxury
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The DHD is SLCD also, AFAIK?
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The DHD is SLCD also, AFAIK?
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yeah but the colors seem to be deeper .. almost like SAmoled
These phones are us only and won't be released in Europe. The Thunderbolt is CDMA only and can only be used in tthe US. The Inspire is just a DHD with a 4G radio.
So the DHD is still the best phone that can be bought and used properly anywhere except the US.
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the DHD is not SLCD its clear by now, it has no ips
i think the inspire has the same screen as ours while the thunderbolt has SLCD
qualities of SLCD over ours: IPS view angles, deeper saturation and some digital treatment (like sharpening, which i don't like)
its not a big difference its like the desire classic vs ours
but yes the thunderbolt is the fancier edition (chassis, battery and slightly smaller if thicker) sadly it wont work if imported plus who wants a Verizon logo on his phone
hamdir said:
the DHD is not SLCD its clear by now, it has no ips
i think the inspire has the same screen as ours while the thunderbolt has SLCD
qualities of SLCD over ours: IPS view angles, deeper saturation and some digital treatment (like sharpening, which i don't like)
its not a big difference its like the desire classic vs ours
but yes the thunderbolt is the fancier edition (chassis, battery and slightly smaller if thicker) sadly it wont work if imported plus who wants a Verizon logo on his phone
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Nope, the Inspire will in-fact have super LCD. Check it out on at&t's website. Says so right in the tech specs.
Matt
deadcookie said:
yeah but the colors seem to be deeper .. almost like SAmoled
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they have photoshop at htc hq too you know
Ah, new model envy... the curse of all gadget lovers!
You think these are impressive? Wait until Mobile World Congress next month and then drool over 2GHz and dual-core Android phones.
I really see no point in upgrading to this if you own a DHD, the upgrade would be minimal.
hamdir said:
the DHD is not SLCD its clear by now, it has no ips
i think the inspire... ...but yes the thunderbolt is the fancier edition (chassis, battery and slightly smaller if thicker) sadly it wont work if imported plus who wants a Verizon logo on his phone
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I def. don't want a Verizon logo on my phone. AT&T is just right for me!
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Hey just wondering would there be any advantage to buying the unlocked Telus version of the DHD over the AT&T Inspire other than carier bloatware. I take it they are basically the same but the Inspire has 4GB ram while the Telus DHD has the standard 1.5GB ram? I've heard AT&T locks out the side loading of apps on their android phones and would charge extra for the mobile hotspot feature. I'm on AT&T with an unlocked desire right now and don't have to pay extra for the mobile hotspot. Just wondering if you guys think the unlocked Telus DHD would be a better choice than the Inspire.
Thanks
dondula said:
Hey just wondering would there be any advantage to buying the unlocked Telus version of the DHD over the AT&T Inspire other than carier bloatware. I take it they are basically the same but the Inspire has 4GB ram while the Telus DHD has the standard 1.5GB ram? I've heard AT&T locks out the side loading of apps on their android phones and would charge extra for the mobile hotspot feature. I'm on AT&T with an unlocked desire right now and don't have to pay extra for the mobile hotspot. Just wondering if you guys think the unlocked Telus DHD would be a better choice than the Inspire.
Thanks
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I would go with the AT&T version. The Inspire is going to have better hardware, and 4G capabilities. (Delivered by HSPA+ w/ enhanced backhaul). As for AT&T locking out the sideloading of apps on their devices, chances are it will happen with the Inspire, but if good developers get their hands on the Inspire, we may be able to use ADB to root it, which will fix that sideloading issue.
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One thing:The DHD does have S-LCD,htc themselves have said that(don't remember where though).
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We do see the wildfire 2 will mostly hawe a slightly more powerful CPU a GPU and a better screen resoliution. So waht do you whink if HTC will roll out the Wildfire 2 will you consider buying it over your Wildfire?
If you selected the option Other please state why?
Overtime the spec will getting better, many phone in the market with the same price has better spec than Wildfire now, but I think after my phone I'll choose a higher-end phone :_
I'm keeping my wildfire for a while, when I do buy a new phone I'm getting a top-of-the-line one
hopefully a nexus or something
I think many user choose the way: buy one mid-end to get into Android and then pick a higher-end, like me .
Waiting for some 2-core processor this year or maybe next
While I won't be upgrading so soon, as I stated in another thread, the wildfire 2 is everything the wildfire 1 should have been in the first place...
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I'm missing something here. My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S. Just after, I became curious about the HTC Desire but couldn't bring myself to get one given I'd just bought the Galaxy S. Then the Nexus S came out and I had to have one of those, so I got it. Gingerbread is nice but I was still curious about HTC Sense. So I decided to buy a cheap Wildfire on eBay. After a while I realised HTC Sense was rubbish and was about to go back to the Nexus S (both it and the Galaxy S are still in my top drawer) when I stumbled on CyanogenMod. I've flashed a number of different ROMs since then and I can't put my Wildfire down.
I know I've got two high-end smartphones but I love my Wildfire so much that I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Please, someone tell me why I should be using the Galaxy or the Nexus as I'm worried I'm actually missing out on something.
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nhnt11 said:
I'm keeping my wildfire for a while, when I do buy a new phone I'm getting a top-of-the-line one
hopefully a nexus or something
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Indeed I chose the wildfire to see what android was about and it hasn't disappointed, even makes me think why I stuck with Nokia for so long.
As for wildfire 2 I think I'll be skipping it too and go for a higher spec cos the specs are still not impressive to turn experienced users head.
One with front facing camera, something missing on most android phones but present even in cheap Nokia models, would be nice.
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I am very pleased with my Wildfire. It delivered more then I expected as instapper Android phone. The next purchase will be a higher end phone with at lest 2gpu/cpu. But for now I am more than happy with my current phone.
I am thinking of getting a HTC desire.
Wildfire 2 is exactly what 1 should have been, a smartphone without GPU was probably the biggest weakness to me. Nevertheless, it is still an excellent phone for those with a budget and want to try out Android.
P1ngP1ng said:
I'm missing something here. My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S. Just after, I became curious about the HTC Desire but couldn't bring myself to get one given I'd just bought the Galaxy S. Then the Nexus S came out and I had to have one of those, so I got it. Gingerbread is nice but I was still curious about HTC Sense. So I decided to buy a cheap Wildfire on eBay. After a while I realised HTC Sense was rubbish and was about to go back to the Nexus S (both it and the Galaxy S are still in my top drawer) when I stumbled on CyanogenMod. I've flashed a number of different ROMs since then and I can't put my Wildfire down.
I know I've got two high-end smartphones but I love my Wildfire so much that I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Please, someone tell me why I should be using the Galaxy or the Nexus as I'm worried I'm actually missing out on something.
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Have you tried flashing ROM's and experimenting with your other phones? For me, another reason why I prefer the Wildfire is because of its friendly size and handling capabilities, and, comparatively easy pocketability, which is certainly missing from the higher end devices with their 4"+ screens.
Also, I would think that the UI and all is smoother on the top end phones, and, their app and game support is way more enhanced than on the Wildifre. Cant really comment on the smoothness part because havent used one of them ever.
Off Topic, Another thing I fail to understand is why companies think that whoever wants a powerhouse of a phone must grab a huge one with as graceful dimensions as a brick. I would love to see one day 1 GHz Processors, Adreno 205's, 768 MB RAM's etc on a 3.2 - 3.5" screened device. Handling such huge phones is a pain, especially in crowded areas...
I am waiting for unrevoked
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Off Topic, Another thing I fail to understand is why companies think that whoever wants a powerhouse of a phone must grab a huge one with as graceful dimensions as a brick. I would love to see one day 1 GHz Processors, Adreno 205's, 768 MB RAM's etc on a 3.2 - 3.5" screened device. Handling such huge phones is a pain, especially in crowded areas...
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Read my mind. Even right now, I wanted to upgrade to a Defy instead of a Desire. Since the Defy is roughly the size of our Wildfire, but the turn off there is that I got spoiled with WF ROMS, Defy has a few, and the Desire a ton.I want the option to use my phone and reach every inch of the screen with one hand. For this I'd still consider the WF 2 if nothing else competes at it's size
Like most people I got the Wildfire as a cheap Android phone to see what it was like after using Nokia for ages. There will probably be a lot of cheaper phones on the market soon after the success of the Wildfire and the San Francisco, even Apple are considering an iPhone of reduced size to compete with the android success
http://www.pcworld.com/article/219501/iphone_nano_rumors_return.html
Have a look at that.
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Read my mind. Even right now, I wanted to upgrade to a Defy instead of a Desire. Since the Defy is roughly the size of our Wildfire, but the turn off there is that I got spoiled with WF ROMS, Defy has a few, and the Desire a ton.I want the option to use my phone and reach every inch of the screen with one hand. For this I'd still consider the WF 2 if nothing else competes at it's size
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Yep, I was thinking at the Defy, too. The only thing putting me e off are the speaker problems that people talk about.
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I would think that the UI and all is smoother on the top end phones, and, their app and game support is way more enhanced than on the Wildifre.
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As to smoothness, I can say that CM7 on my Wildfire is slightly choppier than the factory Gingerbread on my Nexis S but not enough to be annoying and I haven't noticed any difference in app start up times.
Wildpuzzle is a different matter. There has been no noticeable difference between Wildpuzzle on my Wildfire and Froyo on my Galaxy S. It really has been that good that I'm toying with the idea of going back to it as CM7 doesn't seem to want to agree with me. I just wish I could get hold of a QVGA version of Swype!
On all devices video playback is no different and I don't play games so I can't comment.
I agree with you about good things in small packages. I've also heard Samsung are coming out next month with a smaller version of the Galaxy S but I haven't seen any specs.
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It`s nice to see that I`m not the only one that thinks a 4.0 inch screen is too big.
This is one of the reasons I bought the Wildfire, it was the smallest at that time, and still is. Well, now there are phones like the Samsung i5500, but damn, 2 mp camera is so 2004.
I my self wanted the wildfire as my first Android device(like most of you ). But now when MWc 2011 has started im waiting for price drop's of the older phones like the original Desire or something else Thinking is it a good idea to go for a Milestone 2? Looked at their forums and i saw just a few ROM's.
If root is so hard on my wildfire I probably not going to buy another HTC at all.
I'm just anoyed about companies trying to tell me what I can do with their device.
Cause this is how it is now, not mine but theirs.
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I'm just anoyed about companies trying to tell me what I can do with their device.
Cause this is how it is now, not mine but theirs.
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It is the same with all companies, atleast with what I have seen,
Sony - Controls everything you do on the PS3. Mod it, and you lose ability to even go online, and if you do, they have the ability to automatically install stuff you dont authorize.
Apple - Not really required to specify it, do we?
Nokia - Only the initial Symbian sets were truly open, where you could mod the heck out of it. Unfortunately, it was not so customizable as Android. With the later ones, it had to be "hacked" (As in rooted), to allow modifications, which depended on the firmware.
Can't comment on others simply because I don't own them.
Lastly, the Wildfire is too "unimportant" a device for major teams to work on, when compared to, say, Apple's iDevices. Hence, finding exploits for iDevices may take a week, and the same may take months for the Wildfire. Unfortunately, thats the way the hierarchy exists.
i'd like to have the new screen on my actual wildfire..
i don't want to change it..
the next purchase will be a more powerful
Treat this firmly with a pinch of salt, but Concept-Phones have a render of the Xperia PLAY 2 that they have been told is indeed real. It was sent over by Jsus, who has created a number of different Xperia concept renders in the past. Our sources have not mentioned anything about a new iteration of the Xperia PLAY, but that’s not to say it’s not in development. Concept-Phones says the handset will come with a 4.3-inch (720 x 1280) display , 1.5GHz dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor and 8.1MP camera with LED flash.
There are a few things about the phone that do not look right to us (if indeed it is real). For example, the transparent strip, seen as part of the Iconic Identity of the new Xperia handsets, would probably be covered by the joypad when closed. Therefore it would serve no purpose in terms of notifications. Also there are four capacitive buttons at the bottom of the handset that would probably not be needed under Android 4.0 ICS. Anyway, have a look at the larger image below and tell us what you think. We say it’s strictly a concept, but you can never say never.
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If it is or isnt, looks very smart to me
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thats what xperia play 1 should have been lol any ideas if the new one will have the things the old play neglected like video out bravia etc only problem is the touchpads id say if they were made like that theyed be even harder to play with Vita nubs would be the SH**
I hope this doesn't come out...Beyond the camera and the processor, there is nothing new to the phone. They need to add physical joysticks to the device, whether it be Vita-esque nubs, or slide around pads like the 3DS and PSP. I HATE using the touch pads, and I think a lot of people would agree with that. And I know tons of folks want those L2 and R2 buttons. I would hardly see a point to this phone without those upgrades. Sure the processor would be a nice upgrade, but I could certainly care less about the camera. This is just my personal opinion, but I definitely wouldn't buy this as it's hardly a big advancement from the original.
I truly do hope they aren't stupid enough to change the resolution and screw up it's hundreds of working games.
What they need to do for Xperia PLAY 2 is keep as much of the original intact as they possibly can, while making enough changes to the core technology so that it's future proofed. That way they wouldn't have undone all the current accomplishments. Honestly the only things *wrong* with the Xperia PLAY are that it has only 400MB of memory, a processor+gpu that are clocked below current standards, and that we could sacrifice a thinner profile for physical analogs..
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Treat this firmly with a pinch of salt, but Concept-Phones have a render of the Xperia PLAY 2 that they have been told is indeed real. It was sent over by Jsus, who has created a number of different Xperia concept renders in the past. Our sources have not mentioned anything about a new iteration of the Xperia PLAY, but that’s not to say it’s not in development. Concept-Phones says the handset will come with a 4.3-inch (720 x 1280) display , 1.5GHz dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor and 8.1MP camera with LED flash.
There are a few things about the phone that do not look right to us (if indeed it is real). For example, the transparent strip, seen as part of the Iconic Identity of the new Xperia handsets, would probably be covered by the joypad when closed. Therefore it would serve no purpose in terms of notifications. Also there are four capacitive buttons at the bottom of the handset that would probably not be needed under Android 4.0 ICS. Anyway, have a look at the larger image below and tell us what you think. We say it’s strictly a concept, but you can never say never.
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Whether its fake or not I think its looks sweet. I would love to have a higher resoltuion but I agree with TLtheory that for compatibility of older Xplay games it would be best focus in core upgrades.
Maybe they can creat a patch file for select games to upscale to fit the 720 screen or maybe just create a way for the device to just auto upscale, granted it would take a hit on the processor..... just some ideas for the grain of salt
Hope this is fake... Just bought my xperia play a week ago.
Too much focus on Android in the info and not enough Playstation. Does it have L2 and R2 buttons? A better D-pad? Better Touchpads?
Fugly doesn't start to describe it, it has nothing of the Human Curvature design which is really cool and it has much of I-wanna-be-an-SGS2... I welcome the specs bumps however, though they won't bring a spanking super high end smartphone it will certainly be a bit more current than the Play's when it came out. I'd like a higher dpi which can match the Neo's. Games are supposed to look crisp.
Logseman said:
it has much of I-wanna-be-an-SGS2...
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It doesn't look anything like an SGS2, it looks cool
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It doesn't look anything like an SGS2, it looks cool
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Fisrt thing I thought when I saw it was it looked like a HTC phone with Xperia PLAY gamepad........ seriously though the top looks like the HTC everything...... evo, inspire (Desire HD) etc.
DrReD said:
Treat this firmly with a pinch of salt, but Concept-Phones have a render of the Xperia PLAY 2 that they have been told is indeed real. It was sent over by Jsus, who has created a number of different Xperia concept renders in the past. Our sources have not mentioned anything about a new iteration of the Xperia PLAY, but that’s not to say it’s not in development. Concept-Phones says the handset will come with a 4.3-inch (720 x 1280) display , 1.5GHz dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor and 8.1MP camera with LED flash.
There are a few things about the phone that do not look right to us (if indeed it is real). For example, the transparent strip, seen as part of the Iconic Identity of the new Xperia handsets, would probably be covered by the joypad when closed. Therefore it would serve no purpose in terms of notifications. Also there are four capacitive buttons at the bottom of the handset that would probably not be needed under Android 4.0 ICS. Anyway, have a look at the larger image below and tell us what you think. We say it’s strictly a concept, but you can never say never.
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hey mate
copy and paste from xperiablog ...
i've put my comment there , if that is X-play 2 , that is veeeeeeeery ugly ...
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Fisrt thing I thought when I saw it was it looked like a HTC phone with Xperia PLAY gamepad........ seriously though the top looks like the HTC everything...... evo, inspire (Desire HD) etc.
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HTC yeah, but not a SGS2
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It doesn't look anything like an SGS2, it looks cool
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This design looks bland in comparison with masterpieces like the Arc or the Nokia Communicator (another cool rectangular slider, btw). I mention the SGS2 because the screen size is the same. I could say an HTC phone like the other fellow said. They look all the same, these days. As long as people keep obsessed with phones as thick as a coin we will keep seeing slab after slab. I hope someone in the Android realm will break away from that craze and bring us something with a nice design irrespective of whether you can tell it apart from a piece of paper while looking sideways.
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Fisrt thing I thought when I saw it was it looked like a HTC phone with Xperia PLAY gamepad........ seriously though the top looks like the HTC everything...... evo, inspire (Desire HD) etc.
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Same here. It looks exactly like a HTC product cause of the squarish design.
Sony would never come up with that.
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Same here. It looks exactly like a HTC product cause of the squarish design.
Sony would never come up with that.
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I read a recent article that DID say HTC would be the first 3rd party to get the Playstation certification on some of their phones.
Yet another thing that was promised last year but never happened.
It looks so horrible i'm not quite sure how to convey it in words. I REALLY hope its fake...
Seriously though, the important part is the analog sticks, we need analog sticks, a volume rocker better designed to do double duty as R2/L2, and an up to date high powered soc/ram etc, that's all I could really ask for.
If my phone has to be 1.6mm thicker to accommodate real analog sticks, I DON'T CARE TAKE MY MONEY.
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It looks so horrible i'm not quite sure how to convey it in words. I REALLY hope its fake...
Seriously though, the important part is the analog sticks, we need analog sticks, a volume rocker better designed to do double duty as R2/L2, and an up to date high powered soc/ram etc, that's all I could really ask for.
If my phone has to be 1.6mm thicker to accommodate real analog sticks, I DON'T CARE TAKE MY MONEY.
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Agreed. It does look horrible. Nowhere near a Sony product. It's like someone just made it up in their mind and posted a pic.
It has to be fake !
Mael5trom said:
It looks so horrible i'm not quite sure how to convey it in words. I REALLY hope its fake...
Seriously though, the important part is the analog sticks, we need analog sticks, a volume rocker better designed to do double duty as R2/L2, and an up to date high powered soc/ram etc, that's all I could really ask for.
If my phone has to be 1.6mm thicker to accommodate real analog sticks, I DON'T CARE TAKE MY MONEY.
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We definitely do NOT need that, being able to turn the volume up and down during a game is a wee bit more important.
Rogue Leader said:
We definitely do NOT need that, being able to turn the volume up and down during a game is a wee bit more important.
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Yeah, the most important thing is dedicated L2 and R2 buttons!
UNBOXING
FULL REVIEW
COMPARISON - G4-G5-G6
Camera samples:
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Elephone G6 - Beyond your imagination with 5.0" IPS screen, MT6592 1.7GHz with fingerprint scanner
With ergonomic design, the radian on the phone back can perfectly fit for the shape of the palm of your hand, furthermore, the skin-touch material bring you comfortable hand feeling. 5.0" IPS screen,1280*720 pixels, ppi=293, the parameter configuration is the good basis of amazing visuing effects, we especially did many alignments for the display.
Built in MT6592 cpu, the frequency has reach to 1.7GHz, with Mali-450 MP4 700MHz GPU. Powerful performance make it easy to deal with any app in your daily using, with low power consumption as the same time. Advanced camera with 13 million pixels, f/2.2 larger light-sensing surface area faster focusing speed and higher focusing accuracy, all those improvement will you better photo experience.
G6 is equipped with a fingerprint scanner, which could be used for locking screen or set encipherment protection for apps, that can guard your privacy. Double tab the screen to wake it up; and set your customized gesture as short cut to open certain function when the screen is off.
Highlights
- 5.0 inch HD IPS, 1280*720 pixels
- MTK6592 1.7GHz Octa-core
- 1GB RAM + 8 GB ROM
- 13MP rear camera + 2MP front camera
- Standard SIM card + micro SIM card, dual standby
- Android OS, 4.4.2 KitKat
- Support 3G Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz
- Support Fingerprint ID, Gesture Recognition, GPS, OTG, etc.
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I like the phone's characteristics but I'm concerned about the battery life. Only 2250mAh for eight cores is a bit weak. What do you think?
Do you expect the phone to have any support for the upgrade to Android L or to any other alternative upgrade?
I just purchased this phone.
I think for 102Eur is a great phone. If it have some problems, it isn't the only one. All chinneses phones have problems everywhere. The thing is if it compensates what you paid for it.
I also ordered it. I'm still waiting for it but I hope I won't be dissapointed. I hope that it will have some support (new ROMs, firmware updates etc.), since there has been a lot of interest in preorder period.
Zer7 said:
I just purchased this phone.
I think for 102Eur is a great phone. If it have some problems, it isn't the only one. All chinneses phones have problems everywhere. The thing is if it compensates what you paid for it.
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I also ordered it. I'm still waiting for it but I hope I won't be dissapointed. I hope that it will have some support (new ROMs, firmware updates etc.), since there has been a lot of interest in preorder period.
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I think the official launch is on 9th Oct. We will wait at least two weeks more to put our hands in it.
Elephone p2000 at least seems that has good support and Elephone releases new roms when is needed. Also, every Elephone has been rooted easily, so that's good. Take also into consideration that we're with Android 4.4.2 .. other phones are still with 4.2 or 4.0, so we're updated for a few years with this version.
I think we take a good decision, and believe me, I search the whole internet and this is the best phone I found for this price. :good:
We just have to keep this topic alive, so that we can discuss about the phone once we get it. I already own a chinese phone with MTK6577 and 512MB RAM, Android 4.0 and I've been very satisfied with it. So obviously Elephone g6 should be a big improvement for me. I also like to do some improvements to the phone when possible, that's why I'm hoping for good support.
As far as the price-quality is concerned, I'm sure there is no better phone on the market at the moment. Only the battery still worries me...
Hopefully we'll get it ASAP.
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We just have to keep this topic alive, so that we can discuss about the phone once we get it. I already own a chinese phone with MTK6577 and 512MB RAM, Android 4.0 and I've been very satisfied with it. So obviously Elephone g6 should be a big improvement for me. I also like to do some improvements to the phone when possible, that's why I'm hoping for good support.
As far as the price-quality is concerned, I'm sure there is no better phone on the market at the moment. Only the battery still worries me...
Hopefully we'll get it ASAP.
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I own a Sony Xperia Neo (1Ghz, 512mb ram, 384mb of memory to apps, 3.7'' and Android 4.0 ... slow as hell!) so this G6 should be a big improvement to me too! the only thing that my Xperia will be better is the camera and flash, so, we will see
The phone should be shipped in 9th, so -2 days!
Bad news guys: http://www.elephone.hk/readNews/1052.html
I'm thinking about cancel my order and purchase another phone ...
Zer7 said:
Bad news guys: http://www.elephone.hk/readNews/1052.html
I'm thinking about cancel my order and purchase another phone ...
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I would just wait, all the new Chinese models will be a little delayed because of the Chinese national holidays. Not only from Elephone but also from all the other Chinese brands. And I think it is good that they tell the truth, and actually do the tests properly before they ship the phones out to all the end customers. So we don't will be having problems in the end.
I agree, just wait for one more week. If you waited that long, one week isn't that much
I look forward to getting a good product, hopefully well tested and with some suport and updates available in the future.
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I agree, just wait for one more week. If you waited that long, one week isn't that much
I look forward to getting a good product, hopefully well tested and with some suport and updates available in the future.
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I want to wait, but I can't!
We hope that the product is at least good, with good support and few updates.
Still no one received the phone?
Myefox delayed shipments without explain nothing... Look for some hands on until place my order!!
Wonder if anyone has received this phone yet I am looking for a budget smartphone to replace my nightmare Samsung Galaxy ace which is getting near the end of its contract.
My situation is I done a google search for a Blackview Crown review- 5inch Octa core Android 4.4 Smartphone 2GB Ram 16GB Rom and found the following thread on this site -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/blackview-crown-review-5inch-octa-core-t2844265
Someone on there said he thought this phone would be better and a few other agreed, however I cant really find much first hand feedback on this phone.
I know nothing about rooting phones I am a basic user who just wants a reasonable smart phone but my existing phone does have a huge amount of bloatware that i dont use so would not like that on a new phone.
Just wanted to keep this thread alive as this phones looks perfect I am in the UK where the cost of this is just over £92 or $150 and using the Three network on the 800MHZ band so was hoping people could give it the thumbs up.
Thanks
Ian
I expect to get the phone on monday. I will be able to tell some more then... Finally!
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I expect to get the phone on monday. I will be able to tell some more then... Finally!
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waiting for your review. specially please post some camera samples. Im worried about the camera performance. thank you very much.
I received the phone. So far it looks good. Touchscreen is very responsive, no other preinstalled apps. OS really is Android 4.4.2 KitKat as stated. It has also already come rooted as SuperSU. Antutu Benchmark score is 29004.
Links to the pictures made with the phone's camera:
http://picoolio.net/image/PDk
http://picoolio.net/image/PDv
http://picoolio.net/image/PDz
http://picoolio.net/image/PDE
http://picoolio.net/image/PDM
http://picoolio.net/image/PDP
And plus a quick overview of the phone. The video is mostly out of focus but this is all the time I had.
http://youtu.be/NCTu6gl_Uhw
Images look pretty good!
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Hi. Can you add some more photos? I'm quite interested in buying this phone to my wife, but I'm afraid about camera quality, and battery life. So can you say something about it? And generally your opinion about whole phone.
Thank you in advance.
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I received the phone. So far it looks good. Touchscreen is very responsive, no other preinstalled apps. OS really is Android 4.4.2 KitKat as stated. It has also already come rooted as SuperSU. Antutu Benchmark score is 29004.
Links to the pictures made with the phone's camera:
http://picoolio.net/image/PDk
http://picoolio.net/image/PDv
http://picoolio.net/image/PDz
http://picoolio.net/image/PDE
http://picoolio.net/image/PDM
http://picoolio.net/image/PDP
And plus a quick overview of the phone. The video is mostly out of focus but this is all the time I had.
http://youtu.be/NCTu6gl_Uhw
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Im about to order a one too. camera certainly looks pretty good. and your input is highly appreciated and valuble. thank you for that first. and also do all of us some more favor, please include your comment on following points,
1. some more camera pics in low light and normal indoor conditions.
2. mobile signal strength, wifi strength compared to your other mobile.
3. and another most importantly, music quality through a good headset and normal speaker strength for ringing.
4. I found some chinese devices have very low earpiece volume. how's it on the g6?
5. And of course how about the battery time.
thank you again and we all are very grateful for your info I think.
Hey all
The Asus ZenPhone Zoom offers similar specifications to the ZenPhone 2, but with a beefed up camera offering 3x optical zoom. Is this enough for our members to pay the premium?
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Specifications:
Display - IPS, 5.5 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~403 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Intel Atom Z3580
CPU - Quad-core 2.3 GHz
GPU - PowerVR G6430
RAM - 2/4 GB RAM
Memory - 16/32/64/128 GB
Camera - 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, laser autofocus, 3x optical zoom, optical image stabilization, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 3000 mAh
Dimensions - 158.9 x 78.8 x 12 mm
Weight - 185g
Color Availability - Meteorite black, Glacier white
Source: gsmarena
Asus website lists the zoom's aperture at f/2.7 - f/4.8 for variable aperture. I wonder what the sensor size is?
No hdmi,or ir deal breaker in my book.. The specs are off the chart why slack on the essentials..
very interesting from ASUS, loving both zenphone2 and the zoom(more towards the zoom for the juicy cam it got)...
screen looks good enough
speakers well... look traditional which is very boring.. expecting tiny low sound from them
cpu is new and thats fresh.. hope its not a battery hog when pushed hard enough
i have never dealt with the company in any way...
any users out there wanna give a few pointers as to how they operate in regards to their smartphones and firmware?
coming from a dead lg g2, currently on a sony Z3 and hating it to the fullest (except for its 3000mAh batt and SOT)
plans were to wait for the lg g4 but this is intriguing.. price is right, need to test 1 before confirming anything but the launch is a bit late for the competition
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currently on a sony Z3 and hating it to the fullest (except for its 3000mAh batt and SOT)
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Sorry for off topic but can you elaborate on the Z3 hating? I was thinking about getting one of those.
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Sorry for off topic but can you elaborate on the Z3 hating? I was thinking about getting one of those.
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well TBH... its working good and nothing bad really with the factory rom.
some signal issues where its having a hard time staying on 4g-LTE compared to LG-g2 and galaxy s5.. even on 3g it would drop to 2g when those 2 would have a strong 3g connection
connection speed is good when it feels like it but feels like its being throttled when you have a few apps using the internet at the same time.. for example i have 2 bbm apps running at the same time, whatsapp, instagram, snapchat...
instagram wouldnt load as fast as it should be and same goes for snapchat... it just feels slower compared to the other two phones i mentioned..
loud speaker on calls only uses the 1 of the 2 speakers, which makes it completly useless, but theres a mod to fix that without boosting the max volume value
i always had better luck with cm-aosp but things are moving painfully slow in the development section, cm12 is in nightly stages with an 80% complete build with a few bugs still not ironed out so that ruins it for being a daily driver.
managed to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader which is great but feel like im missing on a lot working with the factory rom
depending on how cool the phone is, 4k video is time limited due to over heating of the phone. yes you do get a message about that from the factory rom when u switch on 4k video camera . so if u were using the phone prior to taking that video time is slashed to 3-5 mins before it stops..
videos taken on 4k or 1080/60 fps sometimes look like slow motion videos not running as fluid as they are supposed to...
never had a phone with so many things id comment about or couldnt help fix with the community but i guess theres a first time for everything...
anyways this has been my first sony mobile and being the latest android phone on the market, it only made sense to drop my broken lg g2 for it but i guess i was wrong
guess i could of been happier with the lg g3 but might as well keep the sony till either the lg g4 comes out or try those new Asus
well, intel procesor hard to install custom rom/custom kernel, am i right?
sorry my english bad
Yatango
You can pre-order this phone on yatango for a cool $729.
https://yatango.com.au/shopping/asus-zenfone-zoom-zx550-16gb-4g-lte.html?_ref=auto&search=zenfone
Very nice phone zenfone zoom
It's a very nice phone with good camera. I really want to have this one. But i'm still saving money to buy this.
Folks, any news when Zoom will be released? As i could not find any hint on that. Besides, i also was able to find info that Zoom might get Z3590 CPU instead of more slow Z3580. But in any case, that's only unofficial info.
Got my Zenfone Zoom (Z3580 model 64GB) for a few days now. So far pretty nice phone, fast and good UI. Only downside is the battery going fast. Have to find out what is causing that. Not lasting a whole day so far.
Got mine too - First Impressions up plus camera samples. Part 2 live tomorrow with camera shootout with iPhone 6S Plus
My post below also lists the correct specs. Some errors on first post. Any questions , just ask away
http://gavinsgadgets.com/2016/01/14...impressions-and-camera-samples-review-part-1/
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Got mine too - First Impressions up plus camera samples. Part 2 live tomorrow with camera shootout with iPhone 6S Plus
My post below also lists the correct specs. Some errors on first post. Any questions , just ask away
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Which errors?
You have the Z3590 model, there's 2 models in which the CPU varies. Z3580 & Z3590.
Also there are 3 different localized versions: WW (worldwide), CN (China) & TW (Taiwan).
Mine didn't come with a headset tho. (WW Z5380 4GB / 64GB)
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Which errors?
You have the Z3590 model, there's 2 models in which the CPU varies. Z3580 & Z3590.
Also there are 3 different localized versions: WW (worldwide), CN (China) & TW (Taiwan).
Mine didn't come with a headset tho. (WW Z5380 4GB / 64GB)
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Ah ok. I thought they were all 4gb and either 64/128gb only.
Anyway. Asus Zenfone Zoom vs iPhone 6S Plus
http://gavinsgadgets.com/2016/01/15/iphone-6s-vs-asus-zenfone-zoom-camera-shootout/
Tomorrow I added the Sony RX100 into the mix
Are both SIM slots LTE capable?
warfab said:
Are both SIM slots LTE capable?
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The Asus Zenfone Zoom is a single sim device. It has just 1 simslot and 1 MicroSD slot.
Can you do direct 2-way-Call-Recording???
Can you compare it with the Zenfone2, ZE551ML QUAD CORE 2.3G ?
Good luck with your gadget though!!!!
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Can you do direct 2-way-Call-Recording???
Can you compare it with the Zenfone2, ZE551ML QUAD CORE 2.3G ?
Good luck with your gadget though!!!!
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Basically it's a Zenfone2 with better camera. No other real differences. (
There's a dedicated record button, but they haven't shown any video recording specs. What gives??
Anyone recommend a cheap case for the phone?