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The promises are good but like that first update I feel like we're going to wait until the last quarter of the year to get anything.
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If all these features here today WP7 would be in a much better place. Ideally the update should come before the iPhone 5 but I don't see that happening.
nor do I nothing has been specc'd regarding the new hw either...but the nokai thing is a good thing for microsoft
Oh My God! No new devices?!
All this for (almost) nothing!
Why do you need new devices? Do you really think a front facing camera will be implemented this year? Do you feel the need for more power? Is the phone not fluid enough for you? This is what WP7 was designed for, not to NEED new devices, and not to create obsolete hardware with new releases. I'm glad all of these features will be on the original devices, it establishes the loyalty promised, and I'm excited what 2011 will bring. Considering Q4 this year will be a year of release, I think all of those included features, and more I'm sure, go beyond any educated person's realistic expectations, and are nothing short of satisfying.
For those who missed it, the entire keynote video will be up on the MWC site, but you can see the demo of 3rd party multitasking and Kinect integration below. It was interesting to hear that, both, Steve Ballmer and Joe Belfiore mentioned that these are not all the new features to come and that we'll be hearing more later this year (it hinted at the next generation of hardware devices).
Multitasking:
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You can also see the press release here.
cant wait for those update, it is just awesome.
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Why do you need new devices? Do you really think a front facing camera will be implemented this year? Do you feel the need for more power? Is the phone not fluid enough for you? This is what WP7 was designed for, not to NEED new devices, and not to create obsolete hardware with new releases. I'm glad all of these features will be on the original devices, it establishes the loyalty promised, and I'm excited what 2011 will bring. Considering Q4 this year will be a year of release, I think all of those included features, and more I'm sure, go beyond any educated person's realistic expectations, and are nothing short of satisfying.
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Do you think WP7 didn't sell just because of the OS?
No, the hardware isn't compelling except for a couple of exceptions. Hardware is what drives sales initially and even with all the updates the Mozart, Trophy, Quantum, etc. will still be very average phones, specially when put next to a new Android or Apple phone.
Your point would be valid if the update was coming within 3 months but I bet you my Omnia 7 that won't be the case.
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Do you think WP7 didn't sell just because of the OS?
No, the hardware isn't compelling except for a couple of exceptions. Hardware is what drives sales initially and even with all the updates the Mozart, Trophy, Quantum, etc. will still be very average phones, specially when put next to a new Android or Apple phone.
Your point would be valid if the update was coming within 3 months but I bet you my Omnia 7 that won't be the case.
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There are numerous Android devices running on newer hardware and they look like average devices next to a WP7 device, not the other way around. Though I would have liked to see "prettier" models, I don't see the need for an advancement in hardware. The update is actually coming in less than one month... Just saying. There is one iPhone released every year, and since people on this forum are so quick to compare the iPhone and WP7 though I'm against it, I'll do it. That one phone gets bought throughout the whole year, even without a single update. So, I am more excited to hear about updates seeing as a refresh in a 'look' isn't so much needed.
But, with that being said, I think the OEMs will showcase the new devices, not Microsoft, if there are any.
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Though I would have liked to see "prettier" models
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That's what I'm saying! A great OS on average hardware isn't guaranteed to sell better.
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The update is actually coming in less than one month... Just saying.
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The C&P update is due soon, there's no ETA for anything else except 2011.
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That's what I'm saying! A great OS on average hardware isn't guaranteed to sell better.
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Again, that might be an OEM showcase though, not a Microsoft one, they don't make the phones.
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That's what I'm saying! A great OS on average hardware isn't guaranteed to sell better.
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This is one of the reasons I haven't upgraded yet. I want a great piece of distinctive hardware.
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Again, that might be an OEM showcase though, not a Microsoft one, they don't make the phones.
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Allow me to have serious doubts. Samsung and LG already had their conference with no mention of WP7. That leaves HTC, Dell and maybe Acer. I think Microsoft would have had at least one showcase new phone to demo if there was one.
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Allow me to have serious doubts. Samsung and LG already had their conference with no mention of WP7. That leaves HTC, Dell and maybe Acer. I think Microsoft would have had at least one showcase show to demo if there was one.
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In the conference, Ballmer mentioned the next generation of hardware announcements will be later on in the year. I wouldn't expect to see new hardware until either Christmas this year or next year. The Nokia concept images look quite nice.
Since the last thread had a 'no opinions' rule, I'll post this here:
So it seems like anyone with half a brain was correct - Microsoft is playing Apple's cynical game of withholding vital, easily-implemented features so that they can add them later to much media fanfare
They are reaching out to the casual base by gaining media support (these guys just loooove routine feature updates), presenting the illusion of "moving forward" ("hey look, we can do THAT now!") and not overwhelming the nontechnical user by not having all features available from the get-go.
In the process they are pissing on the so-called 'core base' (which aren't their core base at all obviously - clearly there is much more money to be made from the easily-impressionable, technologically-retarded crowd)
And that's all fine and dandy, but I just don't understand why people from THIS site would support this business model.
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I'll add that people who seriously think a corporation the size of Microsoft couldn't deliver a more 'complete' version of WP7 on launch day are, to put it lightly, mistaken. Yeah, sure, some may argue that modern (post-iPhone) rules insist that if an important feature is not user-friendly or polished enough, the whole user experience falls flat - therefore it may be wise to give features like multitasking a few more months of polish.
However I believe that this is all part of the modern-day model of releasing products in a beta state and subsequently updating them, since far too many costumers are seemingly okay with this behavior (worse, they cheer when a new feature update is on its way, even if these features should have been there from the beginning!).
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In the conference, Ballmer mentioned the next generation of hardware announcements will be later on in the year. I wouldn't expect to see new hardware until either Christmas this year or next year. The Nokia concept images look quite nice.
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Oh yeah, I have no doubts we'll see new phones this year but if they come around Christmas along with the Nokia phones that's a whole year gone with only average devices on sale. That's not going to boost sales.
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Since the last thread had a 'no opinions' rule, I'll post this here:
I'll add that people who seriously think a corporation the size of Microsoft couldn't deliver a more 'complete' version of WP7 on launch day are, to put it lightly, mistaken. Yeah, sure, some may argue that modern (post-iPhone) rules insist that if an important feature is not user-friendly or polished enough, the whole user experience falls flat - therefore it may be wise to give features like multitasking a few more months of polish.
However I believe that this is all part of the modern-day model of releasing products in a beta state and subsequently updating them, since far too many costumers are seemingly okay with this behavior (worse, they cheer when a new feature update is on its way, even if these features should have been there from the beginning!).
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I honestly think you're wrong here. Apple does this to warrant the purchase of a new iPhone, and outdate their older models, whereas the WinPhone releases are going to work on original launch devices. It isn't as though Microsoft is charging us for these updates either, they have no incentives to hold back these updates, actually, in the position they're in, it's in their best interest to be quick with them.
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I'll add that people who seriously think a corporation the size of Microsoft couldn't deliver a more 'complete' version of WP7 on launch day are, to put it lightly, mistaken. Yeah, sure, some may argue that modern (post-iPhone) rules insist that if an important feature is not user-friendly or polished enough, the whole user experience falls flat - therefore it may be wise to give features like multitasking a few more months of polish.
However I believe that this is all part of the modern-day model of releasing products in a beta state and subsequently updating them, since far too many costumers are seemingly okay with this behavior (worse, they cheer when a new feature update is on its way, even if these features should have been there from the beginning!).
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I wouldn't be so cynical. The first thing people are going to do when entering a dominated market is to compare the two devices. I don't think copy and paste was left out for tactical reasons because it's such a basic feature that it created more negativity at launch than positivity right now.
Apple could afford to do that because of their following and the 'trendy' kids who would buy the product regardless of what it has or doesn't have, because it has the 'Apple' brand on it.
Also, with you comparing the size of MS to its capabilities of releasing products shows a lack of understanding of how the company actually works. In fact, its size actually works against it at times.
There are some features that may be delayed for tactical reasons (flash?), but I hardly think copy/paste and multitasking would be dropped in order to gain some fanfare as they actually harmed the product when inevitably compared to the iPhone at launch.
Peew971 said:
Oh yeah, I have no doubts we'll see new phones this year but if they come around Christmas along with the Nokia phones that's a whole year gone with only average devices on sale. That's not going to boost sales.
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MS is in it for the long run though. It would make little sense in releasing devices running on current hardware specs, when people could wait towards the end of the year for the next generation specs. Of course, they might do that, but I don't think it makes much sense to.
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There are some features that may be delayed for tactical reasons (flash?), but I hardly think copy/paste and multitasking would be dropped in order to gain some fanfare as they actually harmed the product when inevitably compared to the iPhone at launch.
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Yes, but which crowd did it hurt its chances with? The kind of who compare features and read tech blogs aka NOT the casuals. This crowd is becoming increasingly irrelevant when it comes to actually selling devices.
I still think the biggest reason to withhold features is media support. Mobile phone wars have demonstrated time and time again that constant media attention is cardinal to continued interest in a product (especially when said product is, say, an operating system a.k.a something which an entire line of products is based on). By routinely making feature updates, and delivering said features with some "user experience glitter" on top, Apple has been able to receive constant attention even from news outlets that are not strictly related to consumer tech. Microsoft would, naturally, want a similar treatment but according to my view, they are doing this the easy way - not by announcing feature updates that contain so-called revolutionary features but rather with features that the competition has already had for a while.
Also, if WP7 had copy/paste, multitasking, Flash on launch date, what would Ballmer be showing us now on MWC? Tight SkyDrive integration is a fantastic feature IMO but the average non-techie guy who already has a WP7 device just wouldn't find it as "sexy" as a YouTube video that shows the device multitasking.
By JARED NEWMAN | February 22, 2012
Android-powered Google glasses may seem like fantasy, but according to the New York Times, they’re real, and on track for a 2012 launch.
Citing “several Google employees familiar with the project,” Nick Bilton reports that the heads-up display will go on sale by the end of the year. It’ll have a 3G or 4G data connection built-in, and will cost somewhere between $250 and $600.
Between Bilton’s report and earlier rumors from 9to5Mac’s Seth Weintraub, we’re starting to get a clearer picture of what these glasses will look like. Weintraub reported that the actual heads-up display is “only for one eye and on the side.” That pretty much lines up with Bilton’s account that the glasses will include “a small screen that will sit a few inches from someone’s eye.” In other words, these aren’t the kind of glasses where the lens is the actual display.
A low-resolution camera will be able to provide real time information about a user’s surroundings. The glasses will reportedly resemble Oakley Thumps, pictured here.
As for software, Weintraub wrote that users will navigate the HUD with a system of head tilting. Although the information will be based on existing Google services, such as Google Latitude and Google Goggles, it’ll be presented as augmented reality, on top of whatever’s happening in the real world, according to Bilton.
Still unclear, of course, is whether anyone would actually wear these things in public. Would I love to have a HUD to remind me about the names of people I’ve met, or to give me directions in the car without having to glance down at my phone? Absolutely. But as my editor Doug Aamoth pointed out, waiting for the contact lens version may be more socially acceptable.
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This seems like an awesome idea but I can't help to think at the sony 3D glasses that a) dont fit your head and b)cause headache. I hope if googles release these glases that they fix these issues
If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
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Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation
That would be nice, I'd totally ditch my contacts (they're a pain anyways) for tech glasses, that is if they can give me a nice frame to go with it.
well i had also read this news ago but i was not assure that time but thanks you share it again with us so now i am agree with the news
maybe they can also warn you not to run against signs on the street, like some people do while texting I think this would also reduce the number of brain-tumors D
I need this glasses, then I can surf while I sitting in lessons
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Great comment. I wonder about this too.
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Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation
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If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
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Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...
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Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...
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I mean for contacts, people and such. I don't think 8 Gb is needed. Maybe 4 Gb it's OK. And a little bit more for the OS.
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Ahem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmSsQ7m3GVA
EVERYBODY get on and email them!! Make sure they know there's a demand! Maybe if enough people request this it will happen. Here's their email.
[email protected]
I emailed minuum and this was their response.
Thanks for letting us know! Unfortunately, based on current development priorities it seems unlikely we will have a finished version for the Moto 360 anytime soon.
If you haven't already, I recommend following us on your preferred social media network(Google+,Twitter,Facebook) and/or signing up for ourmailing listin order to receive the latest Minuum news, including any plans for a Moto 360 release.
All the best,
I joined the mailing list a couple days ago and put 360 as my watch. If demand is high enough, it will come.
I sent them an email as well saying a huge part of XDA is requesting it, etc.
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I also emailed them last week..
"Right now we are very focused on our iOS release but we hope to resume development on our circular version soon. I recommend and signing up for our Smart Watch Mailing List(http://minuum.us4.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ca045cd04e580f1a87d5b9c63&id=3f537d0efb) to keep up to date with all Minuum for smart watches related news."
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So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority
Wim!! said:
A post in a different topic:
So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority
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I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Hell ya!
furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.
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Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.
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Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.
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Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.
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It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different
Guitarboarder28 said:
It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different
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Agreed. Keyboards are not supposed to drain battery. Their coding is not that vast where it requires so much memory to be used. Someone got the STOCK android keyboard to come up by accident if you saw in the minuum thread. Maybe we can utilize that in the mean time? Anyone know how to enable it? I know adb has to be used. I'm assuming Minuum used the stock apk and built upon that.
I'm very happy to notice ufficially that sony smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0
this is the e-mail text..
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre, regarding your SmartWatch 3.
We can confirm that the Smartwatch 3 will receive Android Wear 2 update. However, Android Wear has been delayed into early 2017.
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Sony Smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0?
That is marvellous happiness good news
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This is Great! I just picked up a Sony Smartwatch 3 not too long along.
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Hello. I emailed sony and they told me that they can't confirm whether the sony Smartwatch 3 will get Android wear.
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We appreciate your interest in the android wear 2.0 update unfortunatly we currently do not have confirmation as to which smartware devices will be receiving this.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
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Hi. The post I put up earlier shows that Sony can't tell us whether they will update the smartwatch. Could someone find a way to confirm that the watch will be updated so that I could by one
Unfortunately until it's officially confirmed individual emails from various members of customers services are likely to say different things.
Even official posts on Twitter or other social media site still do not guarantee android 2 on the swr50.
It's just a waiting game and fingers crossed...love my watch as it is now and yes aw2 would be nice but I did not buy it with that in mind....
What I also find suspicious is that aw2 is already out in preview mode for other watch phones yet nothing for swr50.
Not a good sign....But enjoy your watch now.
No mention of Sony Smartwatch 3 in list for Wear 2.0.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14057656/google-smartwatch-android-wear-2-0-launch
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
i think they will manage it somehow, why they would confirm it on twitter, support etc.
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android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Good point. Also, the sources that told you which devices are getting AW2.0 can't confirm anything... They can only go off what information they have. As Sony hasn't given anything, we just have to wait and see. Them not putting the SWr50 on the list is just lack of information for the time being.
I have written to Sony Support a moment ago and i'll see.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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No, they added round screen lists, they didn't take square away. Square watches won't have round menus.
Zen 2 and M600 are getting 2.0, anyway.
Well..
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Well..
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Sorry but I didn't get that...
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Sorry but I didn't get that...
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Exactly
Just to add my thoughts.... The sony z3 had an android 7.0 beta but was never released with sony saying it couldn't because it did not meet googles hardware rules. Specifically support for opengl 3.0 or vulkon. I wonder if its the same for the smartwaches as they will be upgraded to 7.1. I know the sw3 has opengl 2.0 but not sure what each watch on the list has.(Apart from nixon and moto sport have opengl 3.0). Any way if its not that then maybe something similar.
Android wear 2.0
Bonjour
Voici la réponse reçu par Sony France...
The Sony Smartwatch 3 is fully capable of housing Wear 2.0 and has the same specs as half of the devices that are getting the update. Also, it has NFC which you could use with the new Android Pay! I'm not sure if the NFC on the SW3 is full fledged but either way, I think this device should receive wear 2.0 regardless of how old it is if the specs can handle it. If you think so too, email Sony and if a lot of us do it maybe they'll notice. Here's a copy of what I sent them:
Very disappointed that the Smartwatch 3 will not be receiving Wear 2.0. It's very unreasonable as it has the same specs as half of the devices that will be getting the upgrade. In fact, it has better specs than some! The SW3 has NFC which is now finally going to be useful with Android Pay! Just take one good look at any website that just posted about Wear 2.0 and you'll see it's not just me that's upset about this. This device is a great smartwatch and is fully capable of housing Android Wear 2.0.
Update!!: Sorry, guys! I haven't been getting any email notifications from this thread. I had no idea so many people have been viewing it! Here is the link to where you can send them an email: http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/swr50/contactUs/mail/?region=en_GB
Hope this works, fingers crossed.
Update 2: I will be making a separate thread but here I see a link to a change.org petition I made because the other one wasn't very persuasive. https://www.change.org/p/sony-wear-2-0-on-sony-sw3?recruiter=680990369&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
Well stated!
Which sony email that you used? Can i have it too?
Hello SW3 users.
My concern is that the new app delivery model will make our watch a dumb watch. I bought this watch less than a year ago just for the fitness apps, and without them for me it's completely useless.
To the OP: if you share the email address that you've used we can concentrate on a single target!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/02/08/sony-smartwatch-3-not-on-the-android-wear-2-0-list/
This just makes me wanna crawl in a corner and cry. I dont think its Sony's fault I blame stupid Google because if it wernt for them all snapdragon 801 devices would have Nougat offically but because they dont wanna give them vulkan support they dont. Same with the SW3 and its a load of crap with the SW3 if we dont get it because most watches only have 2 cores enabled so if they enabled the other 2 wouldnt that count as extra power? Snapdragon 400 should be enough for wear 2.0. I will be really sad if we dont get wear 2.0.
Edit: Huawei watch doesnt even have NFC. Unlike some other watches we also have wifi too i cant see what would be missing to support wear 2.0.
I have sent a message to Sony via the Xperia Care email form.
using the email link on this page.
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/contactUs/
and they replied, with the content being:
"We can advise that currently we do not have any confirmation as to whether or not the Sony SmartWatch 3 will receive the Android Wear 2.0 update, we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause you. We do appreciate your feedback regarding this and will pass this on internally.
For further information regarding software updates we would recommend that you check our blog regularly as any announcements would be made there. You can visit our blog at: blogs.sonymobile.com. "
Similar here from a live chat
Adam A
Thank you. In relation to your query, no announcement regarding this has been made at this time, so I do not have details to provide regarding this.
We would be advise to keep checking the Sony Mobile Blog for information on updates on the release of any update for this watch however - ht.tp://blogs.sonymobile.com/
Steve.: OK so it's neither a yes or a no?
Adam A: It hasn't been confirmed for release
Yakkity said:
Similar here from a live chat
Adam A
Thank you. In relation to your query, no announcement regarding this has been made at this time, so I do not have details to provide regarding this.
We would be advise to keep checking the Sony Mobile Blog for information on updates on the release of any update for this watch however - ht.tp://blogs.sonymobile.com/
Steve.: OK so it's neither a yes or a no?
Adam A: It hasn't been confirmed for release
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this is the anwer by sony:
Mr. xxx,
We thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
We inform you that we do not yet have an official confirmation that the Android Wear 2. 0 will be used for our connected products Smartwatch 3.
Below is the link to our official web page allowing to have the latest Android news for our products:
Https: // www. Sonymobile. Com / en / xperia / android-xperia /
While we thank you, we remain at your disposal for any additional information.
Our newsletter allows you to find all Sony news. Do not hesitate to register!
We invite you to contact Sony Xperia Support for further assistance and visit our website http: // www. Sonymobile. Com for more information on the support of our products. We also show you our new demo products and accessories.
Please send emails to questions. Fr
support. Sonymobile. Com. Phone: 0 969 32 2121
The Service Request provided in the subject of this message is reserved exclusively for queries that are directly associated with this case. Please note that the ticket is automatically closed five days after sending our reply.
best regard
Hedi
Sony Xperia Support
Five minutes to answer me in the same way!
Maybe emails are filtered by some AI...
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We apologise for your frustration at the lack of information regarding Android Wear 2 being available for the SmartWatch 3. As soon as Sony have any update we will let our valued customers know. We apologise for this inconvenience
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Sony UK told me today on live chat that they won't upgrade
It's the same as with KK for the Sony Xperia SP, a very popular device. It was on their site and then suddenly it wasn't anymore and then the final message NO KK for the SP.
I really doubt it that SW3 will get AW2.0 for the reasons that all big companies are not interested in updating, only selling new.
fritsprive said:
I really doubt it that SW3 will get AW2.0 for the reasons that all big companies are not interested in updating, only selling new.
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Likewise, I assumed as much when I bought the watch late last year - very much case of "good price and I'm not going to expect much from a device over 2 years old".
Shame though!
Sad, it's very sad...
Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P
Not good news...
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Android Wear @AndroidWear 2h2 hours ago
@alex_f_k Hi Alex. Unfortunately, Sony Smartwatch 3 won't get Android Wear 2.0. Check the list of watches here: .
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OK guys we can't stay and just look, we have to do what we can.
The Asus Zenwatch 2 have A.W. 2, is a square watch like the SW3 the screen is just 0'03 ' bigger, the processor is the same, the SW3 has NFC an important features of A.W. 2 something that haven't the ZW2silly. There are our argument, you can had other if you want.
Now we have to create a polemic about programmed obsolescence we have to contact the tech press of our country. Google and Sony will not want to be in this case. In France programmed obsolescence is now an offence.
I believe in you, contact specialized press and consumer association.:fingers-crossed:
This our only chance the media
Google translate you know...
Change.org for 2.0
w w w . change . org/p/sony-android-wear-2-on-sony-smartwatch-3?recruiter=243188806&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Didrik F Fri, 02/10/17 10:37:10 am Europe/Copenhagen
Welcome to Sony Xperia Support, my name is Didrik F. I’m currently reading your question. Please provide your e-mail address and contact number for personalized support.
Claus 10:38:20 am
Does the Sony Smartwatch get upgraded to Android Wear 2.0?
Didrik F 10:40:21 am
Currently Smartwactch 3 is not on the list of smartwatches to be updated to Android Wear 2.0. There is however a possibility that it might receive it later.
Claus 10:42:10 am
Ok, but you are stirring up MAJOR confusion, since several retailers and articles states that it WILL be upgraded. And other users had that confirmed by your english support. Then all of a sudden you either say it wont (message from the english support) or says it might. Either way you are backpedaling from previous claims (and a lot of info out there confirming the upgrade)
So just be honest if you ran into unforseen consequenses.. (or are considering a Smartwatch 4) 10:43:03 am
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/upgrade-to-android-wear-2-0-t3495518 10:44:14 am
Didrik F 10:44:25 am
We currently don't have any information about any possible unforseen consequenses or if/when Smartwatch 4 will be developed. You can however find more information about the Smartwatch 3 and Android wear on our blog.
https://www.xperiablog.net/2017/02/08/sony-smartwatch-3-not-on-the-android-wear-2-0-list/
Claus 10:44:31 am
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/leak-aw2-0-somewhat-confirmed-t3417669
The first link is confirmation from your own support. The other is a commercial advertising the watch with aw2.0 10:45:37 am
In the first post you can find several links to ad's, articles and other that hints the upgrade. Can you understand the confusion? 10:46:19 am
.. but the confusion start spreading around page 5
Didrik F 10:48:41 am
I can understand the confusion, but currently the Smartwatch 3 only supports Android Wear 1.5 and we currently don't have any information about it possibly getting the newest update to Android Wear 2.0.
Didrik F 10:50:48 am
I can see that you were in contact with the XDA-forum, which we do not have any direct contact with. So I can neither confirm or deny what they are telling you.
Claus 10:53:44 am
Those are dedicated users THAT IS QUOTING EMAILS from both your english and french support stating that the watch will get updated to Android Wear 2.0.. It is not XDA telling me that it will.. It is users quoting mails from your own support. Untill you suddenly backpedaled a few days ago.. Something tells me that you had unforseen beef with google, but you wont admit it.
We just want what was hinted to us in both support-mails and ads (which admittedly was taken down again, but well documented). Its not to be rough, but I smell a class-action lawsuit incoming. 10:54:52 am
You have some VERY dedicated customers. And it doesn't quite seem like you know how oustanding a product your watches really is compared to the market. You should really embrace this niche. 10:55:57 am
Didrik F 10:56:42 am
I'm sorry, but as I said, we currently don't have any more information about Android Wear 2.0 and if it will be released to Smartwatch 3.
Claus 10:57:17 am
Ok.. And the earlier mails from your english and french support was a mistake, or?
And one last thing.. I reached out via mail support several times, but haven't got and answer: The swr510c adapter, briefly on the market in japan, will that be back in stock? Either in japan or elsewhere on the globe? 10:59:14 am
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SWR510C-Wrist-Holder-SmartWatch/dp/B017YHTYKI 11:00:04 am
A piece of plastic, currently going on ebay for same as the price of the watch.. So I think its sought for.
Didrik F 11:02:56 am
As we are only the support for the Nordic market, I cannot answer questions about the other countries markets. If you want information about when items will be in stock in our E-store, I suggest that you contact our E-store support.
Contact info: https://sonyestore.zendesk.com/hc/sv/articles/205363242-Kundtjänst
Claus 11:02:58 am
The metal band sells for 300 dollars, this piece of plastic for 150.. You treat the watch as a foster-baby, and don't see how dedictated a user base and how well made a product you actually have.
But thanks for nothing I guess.. 11:03:31 am
Didrik F 11:03:47 am
Sorry, I gave you the wrong link. https://sonyestore.zendesk.com/hc/sv/articles/205363242-Kundtjänst is the correct one.
Is there anything else I can help you with right now?
Claus 11:04:53 am
Yeah... I might actually need some contact to the support/estore for japan, to get answered if it will be back in stock there.
Didrik F 11:07:27 am
If you have a market-specific question I can only ask you to contact that specific market. We have no direct E-mail adress or phone-number to them. The best I can do is to send you a link to the Japanese website, which is in japanese.
Claus 11:08:33 am
Ok.. Then again.. Thanks for nothing and have a nice weekend.. I have the PS4, Sony mobile, 55" TV and a watch.. Will consider my future engagement in the light of this.
Didrik F 11:08:46 am
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support! Have a nice day!
If you need more information regarding our products, please visit www.sonymobile.com
The most I can suggest is wait for MWC if Sony doesnt unveil a new SW4 then there is still a chance that we could get AW2.0. On most sites they only say that the moto 360 and lg r watch arent getting it because they are 2014 devices with no wifi or NFC but they don't say anything about SW3. Dont forget SW3 is Sonys only android wear watch. Either it gets the update or they make SW4. Lets just wait till MWC I cant see what the point of making an SW4 would be at the moment. Most if not all watches have basically the exact same specs as SW3. I even compared our watch with the 2015 Huawei watch and we actually have a bigger screen, mor mah on the battery and NFC. Yet the Huawei watch gets the Dev preview. I think maybe it could be because the SW3 isnt as expensive as most other watches and is seemed less premium and more as a sports watch. I dont like that because it can still be a nice looking watch with the right strap. Im just trying to work my head round it. Its really is like KK on the SP again.
Contacting Sony Support is kind of pointless because you will find in different regions they will tell you different things. In one place they will say yeah well get it and in another no we wont. Its the same with their bravia support because me and a few others have been contacting them about HDR which they now claim on their site our TV has but it only does something with the content through USB. So yeah its not Sony I think you should be blaming but Google as Sony wanna be first to issue 7.1 as an oem and theyre still supporting their 2015 bravias which is good. They also still support their own old consoles too. I think we should be contacting God damn Google not Sony. Google even killed off all snapdragon 801 devices by refusing to support vulkan with the chip. The snap 801 device are really good too. Google refuse to do the drives for them. SCREW GOOGLE!!! Theyre the ones to blame if we dont get the update.
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https://www.change.org/p/sony-andro...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Sign this maybe they might do something.
The main problem I think is the design of the SW3 Android 2 uses the crown ? wheel for many functions
coffer said:
The main problem I think is the design of the SW3 Android 2 uses the crown wheel for many functions
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all the old watches that get updated don´t have a crown either