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By now we've learned that TouchWiz is pretty damn bloated. I did some work on my T-Mobile Note II and managed to clean up a lot of bloat. That said, I'm going to cut straight to the chase... The following list includes the apps that I have either uninstalled with ROM Cleaner (available from the Note 2 International Forum) and Frozen with Titanium Backup. So far I have not had any weird bugs or loss of functionality. Obviously you need to be rooted for this. However, your mileage may vary and I am not responsible at all. I have tested this for me and it works. I have about 1200MB to 1400MB of free RAM at boot!
Uninstalled with ROMcleaner:
Adobe Reader PDF reader
AllShare Cast
Nearby devices
AllShare Play
AllShare Service
Chaton
ChocoEUKor font
DSM
DownloadThemAll
Samsung fota updates
Upgarde installer
Game Hub
Market Feedback Agent
Samsung Help Hub
Helv Neue S font
Idea Idea Sketch
Learning HUB
Music Hub
MusicFX
MobilePrint
MobileTrackerTwo
Official Top 40
MyFiles
Google Plus
PRUI
Readers Hub Store
Reader Hub App
Reader Hub Bridge
RoseEUKor Font
Samsung APPS
Samsung UNA3
HTML Viewer
Samsing Note
Samsung Snote syncadapter
S Suggest
Software Update
talkback
Trim
Video Hub
WebManual
Frozen with Titanium:
Amazon
Bonus Apps
CapabilityManagerService
Enterprise SysScope
Enterprise VPN Services
EnterprisePermissions
Favorite Apps
Favorite Contacts
Play Books
Play Movies
Group Cast
Kies Air
Kies Via Wifi
Media Hub
MobileLife
Need For speed
Remote Controls
Samsung Account
Samsung Backup Provider
Browser Synadapter
Cloud Data Relay
Contact SyncAdapter
SmemoSyncadapter
Samsung Syncadapters
Simple Alarm Clock
Software Update
Swype
T-mo my account
T-Mo name ID
Mobile TV
TMserverapp
Visual Voicemail
VPN Client
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
UltraCfg
Testservice
SysScope
Smartcardservice
Service Mode
Self Test mode
Screen Recorder
Samsung SEtup wizard
Samsung Push Service
Samsung Backup
Preconfig
PhoneUtil
NFS Service
SNS
Popupuireciever
I know there's some typos in there, but you get the idea.
Now, if you go to your battery usage, you will see that Android OS is eating a lot of battery, even when idle... Lots of wakelocks, etc. Turns out it's mediaserver eating up all of the battery and throwing partial wakelocks...
Here's the fix:
From an ADB shell or a terminal on the phone... YOU MUST BE ROOTED:
Code:
su
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
My battery life at idle has SUBSTANTIALLY improved. My free RAM has improved as well.
I'm not going to lie... The debloating doesn't make things seem that much faster, and this phone is so damn fast that it really doesn't matter that much. But that pm enable fix is slick and helps a lot as far as battery while idling.
Please don't hesitate to share your findings or improvements to this. I welcome any constructive input.
Thanks! I've been meaning to research on which apps were safe to freeze/uninstall.
Thanks
when you do the mediaserver fix through the terminal is it supposed to say "new state:enabled" ?
bapurado said:
when you do the mediaserver fix through the terminal is it supposed to say "new state:enabled" ?
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It didn't do that for me, but check and see if MediaServer is running as a SERVICE, then you'll know if it worked
Once I put in the commands it said enable is that correct? And is this to minimize the media server's percentage in the battery screen shot?
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acrown said:
Once I put in the commands it said enable is that correct? And is this to minimize the media server's percentage in the battery screen shot?
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If you'd feel more comfortable there's a free app in the Play Store called Media Rescan Root that will do the same thing...
The command disables mediaserver from constantly scanning storage for new media; it's out of control and likely a bug specific to our device/series of devices.
Ran the code via Rom ToolBox terminal.
I'm a heavy user, the S2 barely lasted my work day. This bad boy was getting to 30 something % by 5pm, after being off the charger around 6:30am. It's 4pm and I'm at 48% - 10 hours. That's moderate use.
I think this lil script did it's job. I'm pretty freakin' impressed.
If you'd feel more comfortable there's a free app in the Play Store called Media Rescan Root that will do the same thing...
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Honestly i dont think this is a big an issue on my note 2 as it was for my GS1 which took a long time to media scan on boot. I don't think I've seen my note 2 media scan on boot and the boot time is really amazing as it is stock.
@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
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@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
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The my T-Mobile program keeps popping back up, but that's the only one. I don't mind, to be honest. And I agree, this is too agressive. It's not like this big list is getting in the way, and I honestly doubt he's seeing much, if any, improvement. But, you are right, YMMV.
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The my T-Mobile program keeps popping back up, but that's the only one. I don't mind, to be honest. And I agree, this is too agressive. It's not like this big list is getting in the way, and I honestly doubt he's seeing much, if any, improvement. But, you are right, YMMV.
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Actually, the My T-Mobile app is one I would want to keep; nice to have a quick easy access to my account information. If carriers are going to add bloat, that's the kind of stuff they should be adding.
distortedloop said:
Actually, the My T-Mobile app is one I would want to keep; nice to have a quick easy access to my account information. If carriers are going to add bloat, that's the kind of stuff they should be adding.
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Ah, true, I am not on T-Mobile, so I don't use it. The program is tiny anyways, so it's no big deal. Now, if it were Need For Speed... I would do battle! LoL!
distortedloop said:
@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
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All I was doing was listing what you can do, and what I did. I froze Play Books and Movies because they're always running and eating up RAM, even when you kill them. They are always running if they are installed. And in reference to your question about T-Mobile stuff reinstalling itself, I've never had that in my experience if I've actually completely removed something. I don't see technically how that would be possible.
I froze Amazon because f**k them, and f**k T-Mobile for installing Amazon as a system app, meaning you can't remove it without root. I spent $700 on a device, it's absurd that I should not have control over what apps I can and can't have on my device... Don't you think?
I was only sharing what I did and what I found is safe, eg. this didn't bork my phone
Thanks for your input
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All I was doing was listing what you can do, and what I did. I froze Play Books and Movies because they're always running and eating up RAM, even when you kill them. They are always running if they are installed. And in reference to your question about T-Mobile stuff reinstalling itself, I've never had that in my experience if I've actually completely removed something. I don't see technically how that would be possible.
I froze Amazon because f**k them, and f**k T-Mobile for installing Amazon as a system app, meaning you can't remove it without root. I spent $700 on a device, it's absurd that I should not have control over what apps I can and can't have on my device... Don't you think?
I was only sharing what I did and what I found is safe, eg. this didn't bork my phone
Thanks for your input
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Winky faces aside, I think you took my post far too personally. You invited discussion, and I offered up some. No offense was intended.
You also apparently completely missed my point re: "freezing" vs. removing. You clearly have root access, as indicated by some of the tips you give which you specifically say "YOU MUST BE ROOTED", so I'm confused by what you mean when you say "you can't remove it without root." You can't remove any system apps, which most of which you removed are, without root, so that's irrelevant. My confusion was simply why, considering you must have root to do some of what you did" you chose to freeze som market-downloadable apps rather than simply uninstall/remove them?
My logic tree when I decide whether to remove or freeze is simple. Freeze stuff I might want/need back that's not easily obtainable/installable, just to be safe. Remove stuff I know is safe and that I can easily obtain/reinstall through the Play store or other places.
I'm not interested in an argument, so I think I'll just move along from here and find a discussion a bit less defensive.
Peace.
1 there are many more that can go
2 can you sort them alphabetically
3 thanx fellow minimalist
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Winky faces aside, I think you took my post far too personally. You invited discussion, and I offered up some. No offense was intended.
You also apparently completely missed my point re: "freezing" vs. removing. You clearly have root access, as indicated by some of the tips you give which you specifically say "YOU MUST BE ROOTED", so I'm confused by what you mean when you say "you can't remove it without root." You can't remove any system apps, which most of which you removed are, without root, so that's irrelevant. My confusion was simply why, considering you must have root to do some of what you did" you chose to freeze som market-downloadable apps rather than simply uninstall/remove them?
My logic tree when I decide whether to remove or freeze is simple. Freeze stuff I might want/need back that's not easily obtainable/installable, just to be safe. Remove stuff I know is safe and that I can easily obtain/reinstall through the Play store or other places.
I'm not interested in an argument, so I think I'll just move along from here and find a discussion a bit less defensive.
Peace.
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Thinly veiled sarcasm aside, I didn't mean to be abrasive. Just sharing what I did. I was more referring to the absurdity of the carriers forcing apps on you, then forcing you to void your warranty in order to remove them. That was not an assault on you. I know you know that you have to be rooted, you've been here for a while.
fit333 said:
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2 can you sort them alphabetically
3 thanx fellow minimalist
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1. Cool! Which other ones did you remove?
2. No
3. You're welcome
This works so good on my at&t i317. Thanks for the post.I'm seeing a lot better battery as well
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The media scanner eating battery was a big issue on my GT-i9300 GS3. It's not been too big of a deal on my GN2 so far.
I was just curious, should the code "disable" the scanner on boot and not enable?
Here's what was posted:
Code:
su
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
Should it be (?):
Code:
su
pm disable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
I just want to know because I think I'm going to disable the media scanner on boot to try it out on my GN2.
Thanks for the info!
What is known safe to freeze
as listed in titanium backup, I've been able to freeze the following bloat without any issue:
Allshare cast
Allshare play
Allshare service
AT&T * (everything starting with "AT&T" can be frozen)
ChatON
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Kies* (everything starting with "Kies" can be frozen)
media hub
music hub
my AT&T
news daemon
s suggest
s voice
samsung backup provider
samsung browser syncadapter
samsung calendar syncadapter
samsung cloud data relay
samsung contact syncadapter
samsung snote syncadapter
samsung syncadapters
SNS
stock daemon
swype (keyboard still works fine without swype support)
sysscope
tethering provision
vpn client
weather daemon
weather widget
weather widget main
yahoo finance
yahoo news
YP Mobile
There are many other things that can be frozen - this (so far) is just a list of what I'm currently freezing
AT&T users: The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
FM Radio
There isn't one. Based on my research, the hardware either doesn't exist or isn't physically connected. No luck with spiritFM either. This matches what international users have found with the n7105 (international LTE note2)
The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
I'm trying to figure out how to deodex a JB firmware... once I have that, I'll be uploading doing a few minor mods (and uploading them, of course.)
Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
SGH-I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk II
added note about FM radio, updated post title to reflect that I'm just dumping random "faq" type information in it.
Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely. Either way this phone's battery and performance is awesome out of the box, even with bloatware :thumbup:
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AlonB. said:
Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely.
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No.. your off base there. deleted_wakelock has nothing whatsoever to do with a frozen app. A wakelock is actually a kernel structure. When an app cleans up after itself, the time it had in wakelock is added to the deleted_wakelocks counter.
Xstop said:
Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
SGH-I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk II
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takes 5 min to disable it all forever.. not gonna get up in arms this time
This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2
frewys said:
This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2
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Thanks for this! I was looking to ask the question in q&a. Would this be pretty close to SGN2?
sent using gNote II.
Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?
skochw said:
Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?
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Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.
garyd9 said:
Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.
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Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?
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Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?
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1. It wouldn't show up in benchmarks, as benchmarks tend to grab exclusive use of the device (meaning the other stuff wouldn't matter.) As well, I don't believe in benchmarks - they are too easily compensated for.
2. By freezing unused services, they'll never start which means the phone doesn't hold them in memory (freeing memory), doesn't use processor cycles to load/reload/execute them which will result in a lower battery usage (depending on the specific service) and allow the phone to "feel" faster in some cases.
3. Finally, freezing stuff that you don't use cleans up the app drawer. Why would anyone want an icon (even if they don't use it) for AT&T's navigation software when google gives us the same thing for free? (Freezing it also prevents someone else from using it if you loan them your phone.)
Of course, the idea of this thread isn't to discuss the merits of freezing bloat (or the merits of urinating when the need arises.) The idea is to let people know what is "safe" to freeze (and give other device information.)
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
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As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
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No, there is simply no possible way for you to ask that without sounding like a newbie. However, it's okay... we were all newbies at one time.
"app drawer" - in iOS, every app you install leaves an icon on your homescreen (or one of the homescreens.) That isn't the case with android. In android, YOU decide what your homescreen looks like - you can have app icons, widgets, or just leave them blank. There is usually an icon on the homescreen that lets you access your "app drawer" which contains all the phone apps. On the note2 with default configuration, thats the checkerboard looking icon on the lower right of the homescreen.
freezing - using an application such as "titanium backup", you can "freeze" an app. This is a way to basically completely disable and hide an application without physically uninstalling it. The only effective difference between a frozen app and one that's actually uninstalled is that the frozen app still can be "defrosted" (which restores it to normal.) freezing apps requires that your phone is rooted (which is a topic for another thread...)
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As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
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The " app drawer" is the location on android that has your application launch icons (and widges). If you delete the app icon on the desktop you can gain access to the installed app here. You can grab a copy from the tray to deposit on other desktop pages.
The term "freezing" is a method to make installed apps dormant and thus not "call home" or use CPU cycles / memory resources that drain power or use data. These are usually done in preparation in determining what apps to un-install. Un-installing bundled applications may leave you no way to re-install them later, short of re-flashing to stock ROM.
Most folks will attempt to freeze apps to remove "bloatware". Later the storage can be reclaimed by un-installing the apps. By freezing, you can avoid "burning a bridge" you may find you need later.
Dynamite answers, thanks. I'm familiar with that app drawer, just didn't know its name, and the requirement of root for a freezing app will be juuust a bit down the road until I can understand the new OS environment.
PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.
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PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.
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Hmmm... The response, "Hit Any Key to continue..." comes to mind. I'm still looking for the Any Key and have never found it. :laugh:
the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing
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the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing
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yes
Fire OS 4.6.1 on unlocked GSM 32gig Fire Phone
Notable changes,
Finally we have native wallpaper support
Different slightly improved lock screen notifications
Smart dialer
Ability to switch default SMS/MMS and Keyboard apps
New Dev. Options
Ability to force quit and(or) Disable bloatware apps
Widgets seem to be working well
More detailed settings for Low Motion/Dynamic perspective(specifically for lockscreen, homescreen, and maps)
Google maps is now seemingly 100% functional
Ability to toggle switch cellular data(2g,3g,LTE)
Google Play and GAPPs still working well
Also we now have a bluetooth keyboard config. in our settings
New Emoticons
Status bar is semi-transparent and looks really nice despite lack of persistent icon notifications
Addition of print services pack(HP, Canon, Epson)
Updated Sounds and Notifications settings(
Things that sadly remained the same
No status bar notifications
Cannot individually clear calls or messages from carousel
Still not native android
Notifications seem hit and miss as usual
No Graphical updates or graphical setting in stock message or dialer apps
Camera seems to be the same and I'm still having having better luck with the google camera
App drawer functions the same(new options in app info though)
Overall function of the O.S. seems to improve a lot. Smooth scrolling through the carousel, less if not no lag at all on sleep/wake, and just all in all more pleasing to look at.
I updated manually by downloading the .bin and moving it to the home folder and searching for update with wifi/data off, and because of that I am unsure if the new att bloatware apps were part of the update due to my carrier or if they were packaged inside the update bin which was a shocking 1.3gb. Even though I am fairly certain that those apps are my fault in the first place I feel the need to warn that the U.S. att .bin file could have that affect and unlocked users may want to wait for the OTA just to play it safe. There is however a great guide on here explaining the process and linking quite a few files(for those who can't wait).
**This did work for me however if it does not work for you I am not at fault, sideload at your own risk**
Feel free to add what you find I know I missed a few things but since there is no apparent changelog from amazon I figured I'd try to compile a small unofficial changelog of sorts.
Tried Towelroot Its been hung at the towelroot screen with a highlighted "make it rain" button for about ten mins... I'm going to leave it running for a while and see if anything happens but I'm assuming its still a no go.
I've seen issues regarding call audio, google services and a few other things but I personally haven't been able to recreate them and fortunately haven't had them in the first place.
Camera seems faster in taking photos for me. Also there is an auto HDR setting, before it was either on or off.
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Camera seems faster in taking photos for me. Also there is an auto HDR setting, before it was either on or off.
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I didnt notice that but in my opinion so far the google cam seems to just take better pictures in general
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I didnt notice that but in my opinion so far the google cam seems to just take better pictures in general
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So, matsnackson do you think that is better to install (sideload) the Google-Camera APP, and used it instead of the default Amazon Camera APP?
Could you please, let us know what differences or improvements do you have noticed, if you use the Google Camara APP instead of the Amazon one?
Notable changes
- Chooseable colors for mail accounts and calendars, but there aren't too much colors to choose to.
Things that sadly remained the same
- Shared Google calendars won't show up in the/any calendar app, that's very very annoying
Still can't connect to my LG g Watch
Android Wear or Google now not working
hungrymr2 said:
Still can't connect to my LG g Watch
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I second your opinion as I have not been able to conect my LG G watch to Fire phone with 4.6.1.
Also sideloding Google play services and play store worked fine for few minutes after which the play services auto updates when I install google search and now from Playstore.
After this any sideloaded google apps start hanging with white screen and circle clock running. Uninstall and install after factory resets also did not help.
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So, matsnackson do you think that is better to install (sideload) the Google-Camera APP, and used it instead of the default Amazon Camera APP?
Could you please, let us know what differences or improvements do you have noticed, if you use the Google Camara APP instead of the Amazon one?
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s.raghuveer said:
I second your opinion as I have not been able to conect my LG G watch to Fire phone with 4.6.1.
Also sideloding Google play services and play store worked fine for few minutes after which the play services auto updates when I install google search and now from Playstore.
After this any sideloaded google apps start hanging with white screen and circle clock running. Uninstall and install after factory resets also did not help.
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I've been using the stock camera app for a few days and it seems to be better than I first thought but I still prefer the google camera app, but at this point it seems to be my personal preference... I really just feel more comfortable with the google camera app.(long time nexus user)
I have seen quite a few people with the google play issues and I tried removing then reloading google services and google play but i havent had any issues the only advice i can give is to remove and try again making sure to pay close attention to the order you install the packages(there is a specific order, and a few great guides on here)
The LG watch seems to be common issue as well but I don’t have one to test with, I'll look into buying one and see what I can do. Until then the only advice I have is to unpair the watch and your phone and reboot before attemting to repair the two. Good luck and sorry.
s.raghuveer said:
I second your opinion as I have not been able to conect my LG G watch to Fire phone with 4.6.1.
Also sideloding Google play services and play store worked fine for few minutes after which the play services auto updates when I install google search and now from Playstore.
After this any sideloaded google apps start hanging with white screen and circle clock running. Uninstall and install after factory resets also did not help.
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I'll third this. I feel like Amazon is intentionally crippling Google services, and I've already ordered a replacement phone.
These are services that run fine on what, 99% of Android phones?
tzenrick said:
I'll third this. I feel like Amazon is intentionally crippling Google services, and I've already ordered a replacement phone.
These are services that run fine on what, 99% of Android phones?
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Honestly I don't think this is intentionally being done by either side, we run an outdated version of android so naturally were going to see at least a few compatibility issues, have you tried a factory reset and full reload of play services in order? Also be patient with 4.6.1 from everything I've read its not technically official on the unlocked phones yet.
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Download Notification
Download in Notification bar now shows Pause/Resume & Cancel options.
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Download in Notification bar now shows Pause/Resume & Cancel options.
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I don't download too much on here so I hadn't even noticed thanks for adding in though
I did want to add in as well that my battery life seems much better than before I actually forgot to charge this for two days and still had 30%( I disabled low motion setting and don't use auto brightness, but none the less that's a great battery life)
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I'm looking forward to the update. I feel changing your keyboard is a few months late, but I'd be happy to finally have swiftkey back. I'm running an unlocked Fire Phone with 3.6.8. Amazon doesn't even acknowledge a new update on their Fire Phone update page. Perhaps it's in some sort of beta as they harvest data before making it official?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201531560
LilLowEK said:
I'm looking forward to the update. I feel changing your keyboard is a few months late, but I'd be happy to finally have swiftkey back. I'm running an unlocked Fire Phone with 3.6.8. Amazon doesn't even acknowledge a new update on their Fire Phone update page. Perhaps it's in some sort of beta as they harvest data before making it official?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201531560
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That was cleared up in the OTA thread this is unofficial at this point those who have it either got lucky or manually installed it, I personally used the at&t bin file even though I have the unlocked 32gig.
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Working Widgets?
matsnackson said:
Fire OS 4.6.1 on unlocked GSM 32gig Fire Phone
Notable changes,
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Widgets seem to be working well
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Which launcher did you use? I tried it on Nova Launcher and Aviate and it still gives me the same error message as before
Smart Dialer? I don't see it.
matsnackson said:
Fire OS 4.6.1 on unlocked GSM 32gig Fire Phone
Notable changes,
Finally we have native wallpaper support
Different slightly improved lock screen notifications
Smart dialer
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I don't see smart dialer. I had one in my MOTO-X.
downloaded the us version of 4.6 and guess what? Andriod wear is back. Now I can finally put my lg watch to use.
Guys,
I got my Fire Phone unlocked updated to new 4.6.1 but after the update I am unable to see the Maps icon. I am currently in Australia but the phone is an unlocked US version. Do I reset or is it something Amazon has done?
Has anyone tried to see what works with some bloatware disabled & what doesn't work? Personally I would like the iris scanner and samsung pay to be enabled and everything else disabled.
Yeah, it's working for me quite well
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Yeah, it's working for me quite well
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Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.
KOLIOSIS said:
Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.
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It will. They use Knox which is a product of Samsung.
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I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...
HikariNoKitsune said:
I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...
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I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.
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I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.
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KNOX doesn't make much sense to me, because that's just a security platform. It just makes sure you protected from being 'hacked' per say. As in like, it adds an extra layer of security over your phone so someone can't just pick it up and plug it into a computer to gain access to all of your stuff. Though thats only the very loosest of analogies.
But I have to ask what you exactly mean by the "not everyone understands exactly how it works and why only on Samsung devices". Do you mean as in why disabling works? or something else. Because you can disable the bloatware on any android phone so long as the carrier and manufacturer didn't lock the option out. Which most devices will let you do it now because of the whole 'you'll get sued for forcing users to use a specific thing without giving them a way out' (an example would be microsoft getting sued over the bundling of Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office with the earlier Windows OS's).
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it. But most I think require Root in order to do it properly and reliably. I use Sprint for my service, and its Sprint ID and such are a pain in the ass, and they can't just be 'disabled' easily even though there is the option to (every time you disable it, Sprint just re-installs it the next time you reboot the phone because it thinks it got uninstalled somehow). But to get it to disable properly on my Note 5, I had to install some random app that I think was called App Quarantine. It looked like a bio-hazard symbol for the icon. I haven't re-installed it since this last wipe I was forced to do, so I can't remember exactly lol. But it was the only one that would let me actually disable the Sprint ID stuff and not have it re-install all the time.
HikariNoKitsune said:
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it.
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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........
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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........
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Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
Sprint screwed up my pre-order, and is sending me the wrong device, so I have to take it into a store to get it exchanged because they refused to cancel my pre-order or change the order at all even though I legitimately ordered the dang thing 2 minutes past midnight on the 3rd. So ontop of that, they also didn't ship the phone when they said they would, AND the put restrictions on my package. I normally have to physically go to a UPS location to pick up my packages cause the dumb driver will never deliver to my house... always states that they can't find my house even though its the ONLY house down the ONLY long driveway... heck you can SEE my house above the trees! But nope, the guy wont deliver. But because of the restrictions, UPS wont let me flag the package as 'hold for pickup' like usual, so I gotta stand at the end of my drive way for hours upon hours just to catch the UPS driver. Then I gotta drive all the way into town to HOPEFULLY exchange the phone for the Black Onyx variant that I was supposed to get...
Anyway, sorry for the ramble o-o; didn't realize it was that long XD
HikariNoKitsune said:
Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
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It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........
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It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........
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Lol I'd only disable the things I already know I need to disable. Like all the Sprint stuff. I leave the Samsung stuff alone cause I actually use alot of Samsung's things. But as for Sprint's stuff? All of that goes bye bye lol. Now that is assuming it doesn't somehow show things that you normally can't see from the applications manager. In which case then I wouldn't bother, cause I don't see much of a point lol.
there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?
amenlo9 said:
there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?
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Go with either one,the Pro+ has a hardware lockdown feature,otherwise,there two are identical:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
I'm guessing Samsung still has a partnership w/Cheetah Mobile,which is one of the main reasons I like having this app,Package Disabler Pro,on-board to ward off the data mining/crapware/etc...
However,I'm not seeing anything in the apps,system or otherwise,that's jumping out & identifying itself as CheetahMobile/CleanMaster/etc.......
I'm guessing it's some/all of the apps identified w/the "Smart" moniker,but,I'm not 100% certain on that.
Anyone have an idea on which,if any,of the apps are actual CheetahMobile bloatware?
Thanks In Advance!
Using EZ Disabler here. Works well, but you gotta be careful using "disable bloat" part as it will turn off many useful things. I just went through and picked what i wanted. Very Easy to use though
Thanks for recommending Package Disabler Pro. I was worried Since not rooted. In past had always used TB . This worked Great!!
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Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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millicent said:
Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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I see your point, but i would also say there is a ease to the app though. Whatever works best for people. Im just glad there are options.
I'm in stock/unrooted phone and I'm looking to disable as many apps as I can without negatively affecting performance.
I've seen lists for other phones but haven't seen one for the M10.
Be grateful if someone could signpost me to a list already made or just start one here.
mwake4goten said:
I'm in stock/unrooted phone and I'm looking to disable as many apps as I can without negatively affecting performance.
I've seen lists for other phones but haven't seen one for the M10.
Be grateful if someone could signpost me to a list already made or just start one here.
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All the Google stuff really, besides play services and play, gmail and whatever else you use.
The other apps unless identifiable is leave will alone. You could end up with an OS that won't boot and in all fairness the benefits are extremely minimal.
Personally I'm like yourself I don't like bloat, but I'm rooted, so I flash venom and then tick the compete removal of sense then install the pixel launcher. Battery wise there's very little difference though.
dladz said:
All the Google stuff really, besides play services and play, gmail and whatever else you use.
The other apps unless identifiable is leave will alone. You could end up with an OS that won't boot and in all fairness the benefits are extremely minimal.
Personally I'm like yourself I don't like bloat, but I'm rooted, so I flash venom and then tick the compete removal of sense then install the pixel launcher. Battery wise there's very little difference though.
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Hi thanks for reply, what you said makes sense.
Also, I did find this link on line for another HTC phone and might try to disable some of the system apps outlined there.
mwake4goten said:
Hi thanks for reply, what you said makes sense.
Also, I did find this link on line for another HTC phone and might try to disable some of the system apps outlined there.
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Yea I've been through this before, I've streamlined my windows installation back when it was a benefit, but even then it wasn't a huge help.
If you ever root, check out apps like autostarts which stop apps from opening and that would probably have a bigger impact, haven't used autostarts for a while, minimal footprint from the app itself, but as I said you would need root access, plus removing ads etc and titanium to remove apps completey, for me rooting gives you the most flexibility and thus the largest benefit to better battery and performance, but again that's down the yourself.
Streamlining apps and removing things you don't need will give you a large benefit, get rid of apps that are intrusive like push ads, even Facebook has a massive impact on battery, Skype, Viber, they're all hogs.
Thanks for taking the time to reply again, I am a bit scared of the whole rooting process.. maybe I could take my phone to a repair shop so they can do it for me?
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mwake4goten said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply again, I am a bit scared of the whole rooting process.. maybe I could take my phone to a repair shop so they can do it for me?
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It's a couple clicks on your phone, just have to pay up $20. No worries. A phone shop probably won't do it for you
Repair shop will not guarantee anything in case something will go wrong.
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My personal disabled apps.
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Android Pay
- Docs
- Facebook
- Flashlight
- Google App
- Google Play Movies&TV
- Google Play Music
- Hangouts
- HTC Service DLNA
- HTC Sync Manager
- HTC Sync Manager Package Installer
- Instagram
- Messenger
- News Republic
- Touchpal All unused languages pack
- Trusted Face
- Zoe Video Editor
This list is considered safe to disable by me. No problems at all, everything works like a charm.
afuller42 said:
It's a couple clicks on your phone, just have to pay up $20. No worries. A phone shop probably won't do it for you
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Ok I guess I'll have to dive head first and learn how to root the phone...I might try it first on my old m8 first just to get confident with it all...
cavist said:
Repair shop will not guarantee anything in case something will go wrong.
Time to post first on topic list:
My personal disabled apps.
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Android Pay
- Docs
- Facebook
- Flashlight
- Google App
- Google Play Movies&TV
- Google Play Music
- Hangouts
- HTC Service DLNA
- HTC Sync Manager
- HTC Sync Manager Package Installer
- Instagram
- Messenger
- News Republic
- Touchpal All unused languages pack
- Trusted Face
- Zoe Video Editor
This list is considered safe to disable by me. No problems at all, everything works like a charm.
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Thanks for the disabled app list I will get these apps disabled now.
mwake4goten said:
Ok I guess I'll have to dive head first and learn how to root the phone...I might try it first on my old m8 first just to get confident with it all...
Thanks for the disabled app list I will get these apps disabled now.
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You can usually find some decent bloat removal lists here on XDA. Won't be made for the 10 and a little behind, but should help. I think getting a full updated safe to remove list is a great idea.
As for S-OFF (root), Sunshine crew does an amazing job to make the process as easy and safe as possible and provide really great support, even through phone I believe, as well as there irc channel.
Very good idea to do your M8 first as it can be very easy to permenantly brick your device IF you decide to mess around without research, which from your posts will not be an issue for you.
Basically once you are S-OFF, if you don't know what you're doing, just find a tutorial or ask in the appropriate thread, or create one.
Happy flashing.
mwake4goten said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply again, I am a bit scared of the whole rooting process.. maybe I could take my phone to a repair shop so they can do it for me?
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Honestly rooting is a doddle mate. There are guides everywhere, if you don't know just ask.
afuller42 said:
It's a couple clicks on your phone, just have to pay up $20.
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highly unlikely you'll mess it up. Plus you don't need s-off so it is free. If you need help rooting IM me and i'll help, rooting is a process you want to be familiar with, getting someone to go do it for you isn't helpful because you don't learn anything, the root process isn't hard you'll be fine
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Plus you don't need s-off so it is free.
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I think I thought I was in the Verizon forums when I replied we have to pay extra, can't just simply use htcdev.
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I think I thought I was in the Verizon forums when I replied we have to pay extra, can't just simply use htcdev.
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Ah OK, yea I was referring to int unlocked. Provider specific I wouldn't know, I always buy unlocked. Less hassle.