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SteelConnect M an adapter for Moto 360 Smartwatch

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What's the expected width for the watch straps?
20 or 22?
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@Cr4z33 hi, it's 22mm.

Ah...I was a KS backer for the steel, unfortunately, I could not test them out because I jumped to the LG G Watch and now the Moto 360 lol. Glad you are opting to help with this! My only gripe is that the it took quite a bit of time due to delays beyond SC's control. But that's pretty much Kickstarter right there isn't it? lol
Excited to see the final product too! Thanks again!

Super excited about this!

If this somehow allows ur to just snap in and out different bands that'd be dope. Instead of using a screw driver.
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SamDeKyro said:
If this somehow allows ur to just snap in and out different bands that'd be dope. Instead of using a screw driver.
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Get true NATO straps, they will cover the hear rate sensor but no need to remove spring bars

When I first heard of all the issues with using 3rd pty bands on the Moto360, I had thought.. "someone needs to come up with an adapter"..... I am beyond excited for this!!

So a black version will be available right away? When will these be shipping out?

suzook said:
So a black version will be available right away? When will these be shipping out?
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Where did you see that? This is kickstarter so it'll probably a month at least (barring any delays in the process) from launch. I really don't think they are fronting the cash to make a min batch. Unless they still have cash left over from the pebble steelconnect campaign. lol

kpjimmy said:
Ah...I was a KS backer for the steel, unfortunately, I could not test them out because I jumped to the LG G Watch and now the Moto 360 lol. Glad you are opting to help with this! My only gripe is that the it took quite a bit of time due to delays beyond SC's control. But that's pretty much Kickstarter right there isn't it? lol
Excited to see the final product too! Thanks again!
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Hi @kpjimmy, Its nice to see you again, so you went for Moto360 ya : ) Yea we did face challenges from our previous manufacturer, and it cause us a few months delay. Lesson learn! This is a very valuable experience we had and we believe it is good. Not only we learn how to handle manufacturer, its about the whole supply chain and management skill from the very beginning of the campaign until we finally shipped it out. We are back this time more prepared with three manufacturer in hand. Will definitely looking for more backups XD. We feel excited too :laugh:

SamDeKyro said:
If this somehow allows ur to just snap in and out different bands that'd be dope. Instead of using a screw driver.
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Hi @SamDeKyro. Good day! It will definitely simplify the way you change your strap. There is two way you can do, either you get a strap with quick release or just use a 1mm pin to remove from the quick release lug whole lug of SteelConnect M. In addition it will reduce your chances of scratching your Moto360 everytime you change it. Cheers!

GTiceman said:
Get true NATO straps, they will cover the hear rate sensor but no need to remove spring bars
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Hi GTiceman, Yes you could always opt for the Nato or Zulu straps, however you need to sacrifice the function of heart rate sensor. We do have some tricks which could help some of you with smaller hand to still use your heart rate sensor while having nato strap on board. Everything is flexible, stay tune XD

nonmindo said:
When I first heard of all the issues with using 3rd pty bands on the Moto360, I had thought.. "someone needs to come up with an adapter"..... I am beyond excited for this!!
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Hi @nonmindo. We do have the same concern, and thats the first intention of making SteelConnect M. Moto 360 lug just allowed straps that are below 3.5mm thickness, so there is a little constrain there. We do see that some of the fans out there manage to get some 3rd party strap that looks cool; but if your choice of strap are more than 3.5mm, we can help you . There is more possibilities that you could think of. Cheers!

suzook said:
So a black version will be available right away? When will these be shipping out?
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Hi @Suzzook, Thanks for your interest in SteelConnect M. The campaign will be launched on next week in Kickstarter. If everything goes well, the production will start on end November after the campaign. We estimated to shipped it out latest by Jan or mid Feb 2015. This is how it works in Kickstarter.

Steelconnect said:
Hi @SamDeKyro. Good day! It will definitely simplify the way you change your strap. There is two way you can do, either you get a strap with quick release or just use a 1mm pin to remove from the quick release lug whole lug of SteelConnect M. In addition it will reduce your chances of scratching your Moto360 everytime you change it. Cheers!
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Sounds good! Can't wait till you start your campaign. Will def. support!

SamDeKyro said:
Sounds good! Can't wait till you start your campaign. Will def. support!
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Thanks for the support! Make sure you grab the early bird . Please also help us to share it out to your loves one through Facebook: Search for " SteelConnect ". Many Thanks!

Steelconnect said:
Thanks for the support! Make sure you grab the early bird . Please also help us to share it out to your loves one through Facebook: Search for " SteelConnect ". Many Thanks!
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I am new to Kickstarter.
Can you please explain me how to pre-order/order a couple of brushed aluminium adapters for the 360?
Cheers
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Cr4z33 said:
I am new to Kickstarter.
Can you please explain me how to pre-order/order a couple of brushed aluminium adapters for the 360?
Cheers
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Kickstarter is basically a platform for people to pledge funds to support a project. Just head to the Kickstarter website and have a look at their FAQ. Example: https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backer+questions?ref=faq_nav#BackAProj
I believe that Steelconnect has yet to create the project in Kickstarter for the Moto 360 adaptor. Just be patience, and wait for him to tell us know once the project has been started. I'm waiting too.

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Hi GTiceman, Yes you could always opt for the Nato or Zulu straps, however you need to sacrifice the function of heart rate sensor. We do have some tricks which could help some of you with smaller hand to still use your heart rate sensor while having nato strap on board. Everything is flexible, stay tune XD
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Wow, cant wait to see how you guys work on that magic :fingers-crossed:
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Hi @Suzzook, Thanks for your interest in SteelConnect M. The campaign will be launched on next week in Kickstarter. If everything goes well, the production will start on end November after the campaign. We estimated to shipped it out latest by Jan or mid Feb 2015. This is how it works in Kickstarter.
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Could you consider abandon KickStarter and straight go for pre-order ? That way we could get it much sooner, and you may batch produce for lower cost

[Q] Metal band UK release?

Hi all,
I was looking around to buying myself a moto 360, But I really only want one with a metal band. However it looks like currently only the US can get the metal band option and here in the UK we are stuck with just the leather option. Has anyone heard anything about a potential release date for the UK?
Thanks

I'd be happy seeing actual stock come into stores regardless of the band they come with so if it's anything like the actual launch we're probably going to be waiting some time for stock to begin to come in volume so it can be distributed to stores and so on other than Motorola's site.

I just got an email now saying there available
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gavin-phelan said:
I just got an email now saying there available
Hit Thanks if I Helped
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Ah right, on the UK motorola store they are still showing up with only the leather band option, Maybe they are a little slow in updating

I gave up waiting and bought the black Pebble Steel band, fits perfectly and looks good
Although it does catch the hairs on my arm a bit...

EddyOS said:
I gave up waiting and bought the black Pebble Steel band, fits perfectly and looks good
Although it does catch the hairs on my arm a bit...
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...and it will crack the back of your watch pretty quickly. You need a Motorola band, it has a special design to avoid cracking and also looking better by avoiding the "hockey puck" look.

kevinlevrone said:
...and it will crack the back of your watch pretty quickly. You need a Motorola band, it has a special design to avoid cracking and also looking better by avoiding the "hockey puck" look.
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I've had it for nearly four weeks now and it's not cracked. I'm still waiting on the Moto ones, though, as I do prefer OEM

I've had it on for over 8 weeks.....no cracks here.....[emoji4] [emoji4]

[Poll] Other Steelconnect model for our moto 360

Dear all,
as some of you know, SteelConnect has recently launched an accessory (the M180 and M225) that reduces the risk of backcracking of the Moto 360 while also making it easier to switch bands.
However, I and several other people love the idea but I don't really like the gap between the device itself and the curve of the M180.
I sent them a mail and they told me they were open to suggestions and were willing to listen to other ideas if it got enough support.
At the time of posting this poll, there are already over 160 votes on Google Plus.
Make sure to also head there to click on the options.
Thats what this is for: I would like to know how many of you would love a similar concept to this, but with a downward facing slope. So instead of going along with the body of the 360, leading to the gap, I would suggest a paperclip shape.
What do you think? Make sure to leave your feedback here or in the G+ discussion
PS: Thanks for participating guys. I am sure that if we reach, let's say 200 people who'd be willing to buy it, Steelconnect will do it. They were pretty happy with the results so far. Great company!

I think I'd like to get the one I already ordered in hand before thinking about another product from them.

apallohadas said:
I think I'd like to get the one I already ordered in hand before thinking about another product from them.
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Haha, sure!
From what I understood their batches are ready (?) Saw something on their Facebook page.

Yup, they've started shipping. I backed the Kickstarter project and should be receiving my 2 x M180 tomorrow!

hush66 said:
Yup, they've started shipping. I backed the Kickstarter project and should be receiving my 2 x M180 tomorrow!
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So did you receive them?

GrandMasterB said:
So did you receive them?
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Not yet. It's in Singapore since 30 Jan, but not sure why it hasn't been delivered to me. Perhaps today or tomorrow. :fingers-crossed:

i just wish i could freakin preorder a steelconnect M225

WarningHPB said:
i just wish i could freakin preorder a steelconnect M225
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So i'm not 100% on this but what is the point of the M225 vs the M180? In the pictures it looks like the M225 would be for smaller wrists vs M180 for larger wrists. Am I seeing that correctly?

Sony's universal strap adapter

I've seen images of this strap adapter show up several times on various Sony sites (see attached picture), but I have never heard of anyone actually owning it.
Does anyone own the watch holder/strap adapter shown in the attached image?
If so, does it have pins that can be unscrewed to allow the user to use whatever strap they want?
Does anyone know anywhere this thing can be purchased (alone, without the watch)?

l3iggs said:
I've seen images of this strap adapter show up several times on various Sony sites (see attached picture), but I have never heard of anyone actually owning it.
Does anyone own the watch holder/strap adapter shown in the attached image?
If so, does it have pins that can be unscrewed to allow the user to use whatever strap they want?
Does anyone know anywhere this thing can be purchased (alone, without the watch)?
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With this adapter you can indeed use any band you want. Sony should start selling these any moment now. I don't what is keeping them so long!

Ironic6925 said:
With this adapter you can indeed use any band you want. Sony should start selling these any moment now. I don't what is keeping them so long!
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How do you know these things? Is this speculation on your part, or can you point to a source for your info?

l3iggs said:
How do you know these things? Is this speculation on your part, or can you point to a source for your info?
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Being able to use the band you want is the meaning of this adapter so no surprise there.
The adapter was announced in the beginning of this year next to the "steel" version of the smartwatch 3 which just entered in stores here in The Netherlands. Because I really want the adapter (as it makes the watch more classy imo) I phoned with Sony and they promised me that the waiting is almost over. No specific dates but very soon...

Sony has been selling the watch bundled with the holder and leather strap for the past week or so in several European countries. It's a matter of time before they release the holder/strap as a standalone accessory.

I'm honestly quite worried that Sony will retire this watch before they manage to release this

l3iggs said:
I'm honestly quite worried that Sony will retire this watch before they manage to release this
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They'll release it soon.

supac said:
They'll release it soon.
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I've been hearing this since January/February. Care to explain how you know this?
And to OP: Sony UK is selling all versions of the Smartwatch 3 now. Steel band, adapter with 2 colors of leather, and multiple colors of the same band we've had all along. Sadly, only with the full watch, not the individual bands.
I have no doubts supac is correct (though, want more info). Sony has stated since February, at the least, that the bands will be available "early spring." The timeline was wrong, but they are coming, I hope, soon. Unless the Smartwatch 3 is going to end up like the Vita, only supported elsewhere, and to a small degree.

Xperia media replied to my query in twitter, they said that they were aiming for 2nd or 3rd week of May.....kinda late but hey

supac said:
Xperia media replied to my query in twitter, they said that they were aiming for 2nd or 3rd week of May.....kinda late but hey
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They told you this at the end of the 4th week in May?

Maybe they're not planning on selling the universal strap adapter standalone.
That would suck for those of us who already own the watch

l3iggs said:
Maybe they're not planning on selling the universal strap adapter standalone.
That would suck for those of us who already own the watch
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they've previously stated they will be... officially

I wonder what's taking them so long to release this.

Sean09 said:
I wonder what's taking them so long to release this.
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Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.

l3iggs said:
Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.
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Sony are incompetent. This is the one I'm going for. They can show off a product, sell a watch with a steel band but not the band by itself and the white band has been for sale on their website for a while but no sign of the lime green one? Sonys products are great but the marketing and supply chain is terrible.

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Sony are incompetent.
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Yeah, good one. Let's add another option (however unlikely) just for fun: They're malicious; They released the rendering of the adapter to generate interest for their watch with no intention of ever releasing the accessory!

l3iggs said:
Yeah, good one. Let's add another option (however unlikely) just for fun: They're malicious; They released the rendering of the adapter to generate interest for their watch with no intention of ever releasing the accessory!
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So you think they couldn't possibly be incompetent?
To quote yourself:
Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.
If any of these are true then they are intentionally lying by still insisting the adaptor will be available which is malicious. Personally I can't see this which means incompetence is more likely due to the fact that this small piece of plastic is not difficult to make or distribute yet they blow through published release dates regularly.

@rob_h
I think you mistook my post for being sarcastic. Sorry about that. None of it was sarcastic.
I honestly agree with you that it's very likely they've been unable to release this because of their incompetence. I also honestly think there's a chance (however small) that they're being malicious/disingenuous here by releasing that rendering of the strap adapter with little or no intention of actually selling it one day.

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I think you mistook my post for being sarcastic. Sorry about that. None of it was sarcastic.
I honestly agree with you that it's very likely they've been unable to release this because of their incompetence. I also honestly think there's a chance (however small) that they're being malicious/disingenuous here by releasing that rendering of the strap adapter with little or no intention of actually selling it one day.
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I may have got the wrong end of the stick....(it has been known...)
I think we are probably thinking similar things :highfive:
The whole thing will make me think about Sony products next time I swap my phone, watch or tablet all of which are Sony at the moment.

Excelent
Looks great where to buy?

Is this one plus for real?!

Hey guys,
I'm about to buy a one plus 3 from a guy which is selling it extremely cheap and I would like to ask you guys, in what ways I could check if the device is real and not just a replica and also if It's not stolen. I will meet with the guy today so I would appreciate everything you tell me test on the device before making the purchase. I already asked him for the picture of the invoice.. now I'm waiting for his reply.
BTW this is the picture he sent me of the device:
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Thank you :good:

when you meet, ask to plug it in to a outlet, if it dashcharges, its real.
or
open bootloader by turning off phone and press volume up+power, it should be named someting ms8996 or something like that.
Whats the price?

Hgneto said:
Hey guys,
I'm about to buy a one plus 3 from a guy which is selling it extremely cheap and I would like to ask you guys, in what ways I could check if the device is real and not just a replica and also if It's not stolen. I will meet with the guy today so I would appreciate everything you tell me test on the device before making the purchase. I already asked him for the picture of the invoice.. now I'm waiting for his reply.
BTW this is the picture he sent me of the device:
Thank you :good:
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I saw you comment and first off I'd like to say its already a chinese branded phone and very modest company, not your usual suspects for making "Phoney." (pun intended) Also I do not own the phone yet, but since you're cautious I'll still help you out.
When I buy phones from untrusted/unknown parties I always meet them in very open public places and look them in the eye when they're talking, looking for signs of anxiety or hesitation.
Now onto the phone itself:
pop the sim tray out make sure there are 2 slots (real oneplus 3 has 2 slots). okay
Go to settings> about phone check the imei with this: https://swappa.com/esn (its free and trusted site)
pop one of my sim cards in and make a phone call. go back to settings> about phone and check the baseband, model number, build number etc. and make sure they are correct/up to date.
go to the camera (usually the stock app) and I test photos and videos.
turn on bluetooth and make sure it searches for my headset which i have on at the time.
Open a web browser and see how fast the app opens and open multiple tabs and different websites in each.
For a phone like this I would feel the quality of the build because most knock-offs just don't feel like "real"
and LAST but not LEAST go to settings> security and check the fingerprint sensor, (how fast it esponds, if it responds at all, nothing is for sure but chances are very slim that a knock-off company is putting a high quality fingerprint system in a knock-off phone. I do all of this while talking to him/her about how the yankees are really sucking this year, and telling them my fantasy football team is better than theirs by a long shot.
I sure hope this helps :fingers-crossed:

Check the Android version. If it says Nougat, then it is obviously a fake one.

Thank you! Isn't there an app that can check if the phone is real? Like all the internals and camera module? I heard there's one with the name similar to AIDA..
Also, could anyone post the latest settings page where I can see the latest build/baseband and so on, please?
Thank you all

brugernavn said:
when you meet, ask to plug it in to a outlet, if it dashcharges, its real.
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open bootloader by turning off phone and press volume up+power, it should be named someting ms8996 or something like that.
Whats the price?
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he's selling for 150 euros. The charger looks like he bought it in the UK (UK plug)

Hgneto said:
he's selling for 150 euros. The charger looks like he bought it in the UK (UK plug)
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That's suspicious, I would never buy this.
Water damage isn't visible from the outside but you could be screwed later on.

J_Dutch said:
That's suspicious, I would never buy this.
Water damage isn't visible from the outside but you could be screwed later on.
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What if I do every test mentioned above? As a sound test?
If everything works well, it shouldn't be a problem.. it's even seen the original screen protector..

Hgneto said:
What if I do every test mentioned above? As a sound test?
If everything works well, it shouldn't be a problem.. it's even seen the original screen protector..
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You could easily get 300 euro for OP3 so for me the real question is (and it should be your question as well) Why would the seller throw away 150 euro? Why would anybody do that? Nobody would unless something is wrong.

Hgneto said:
Hey guys,
I'm about to buy a one plus 3 from a guy which is selling it extremely cheap and I would like to ask you guys, in what ways I could check if the device is real and not just a replica and also if It's not stolen. I will meet with the guy today so I would appreciate everything you tell me test on the device before making the purchase. I already asked him for the picture of the invoice.. now I'm waiting for his reply.
BTW this is the picture he sent me of the device:
Thank you :good:
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Looks real. Exactly like mine did whwn I got it. But what's to say that's what you will receive. Especially at half price.
Buy using a reputed site and pay using a known payment method.
That way if you do get cheated will have some way to get your money back.

Isnt that fingerprint Sensor/ home button too thick and too small from left to right?

Blubber120 said:
Isnt that fingerprint Sensor/ home button too thick and too small from left to right?
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Yeah it actually does look a little weird. Not the same compared to mine. Mines shorter from top to bottom and longer left to right.
Hgneto said:
Hey guys,
I'm about to buy a one plus 3 from a guy which is selling it extremely cheap and I would like to ask you guys, in what ways I could check if the device is real and not just a replica and also if It's not stolen. I will meet with the guy today so I would appreciate everything you tell me test on the device before making the purchase. I already asked him for the picture of the invoice.. now I'm waiting for his reply.
BTW this is the picture he sent me of the device:
Thank you :good:
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It looks real, it still has the screen protector on it too, have him take a pic of the back and get the imei and look it up, it seems legit, maybe he won it and is just selling it cheap, just make sure it powers on and no other issues

Hgneto said:
Thank you! Isn't there an app that can check if the phone is real? Like all the internals and camera module? I heard there's one with the name similar to AIDA..
Also, could anyone post the latest settings page where I can see the latest build/baseband and so on, please?
Thank you all
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If you can get internet... Download the Geekbench 3 from playstore and run a test and you should get around 2250+ singlecore score and 5400+ multicore score (If you can only download geekbench 4 then score is around 1700 for single and 4000 multicore)

Hgneto said:
he's selling for 150 euros. The charger looks like he bought it in the UK (UK plug)
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That's not a UK plug, looks US to me which means it's running different bands than the EU model. Check it'll work on your network

Hgneto said:
he's selling for 150 euros. The charger looks like he bought it in the UK (UK plug)
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Its not UK plug
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ghostofcain said:
That's not a UK plug, looks US to me which means it's running different bands than the EU model. Check it'll work on your network
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3g bands should be ok but 4G can be problematic.
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