[Q] IP rating and other SWR50 specs - Sony Smartwatch 3

Sony's website displays two IP ratings for this one (IP58 and IP68), hence I don't think it is very reliable when it comes to basing a purchase decision on. Here are some spec-related questions:
So which one is it, IP58 or IP68?
As such, will it be safe to use during snorkeling?
Does it have WiFi? And if it does, are there any chances that they will develop a version (be it truncated, if not fully featured) of their PlayMemories Mobile app?
Will I be able to unlock my phone using SWR50's NFC?
Oh, yeah, and what's the DPI on this thing?

I am sure that it is IP68 rating. People have used it for swimming, but I don't know about going snorkeling since I am assuming that you would be doing it in salt water. The Wi-Fi thing is up in the air, since I read both that it has the hardware and it may have not. As for the Unlock thing with the watch, if you have Bluetooth unlock built into your phone then you can have the phone unlocked when the phones connect. If it is not available in your phone then you can download apps on the playstore for that feature or wait for the new Lollipop update. I am currently using the Xperia Z3 with the SW3 and that feature was built into the phone's OS. It allowed me to set a distance for the bluetooth as well to keep my phone unlocked up to a distance even if I am still connected to the phone.
Correction: On the WiFi the watch has the feature but it has not been enabled yet until a new update for Android Wear comes out that will utilize that feature.

I would guess that salt water is a no no.
The is an NFC "tag" in the upper region of the screen. If the phone is already unlocked, it opens the Android Wear app. I have it set up with lollipop's smart unlock, so that it can unlock the phone when tapped. Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to hit with my Nexus 5. Too inconsistent for daily use, otherwise I'd have forget my pattern by now!

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I would guess that salt water is a no no.
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Why would swimming in salt water be prohibitive? Is it because salt water is more corrosive than fresh water? I've been snorkeling with my Seiko 5 Automatic with no issues for a long time now, even though it's only rated water resistant to 10'.

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[Q] Thinking of buying a Sony Smartwatch 3 and i need your feedback!

I am seriously debating getting myself a Sony Smartwatch 3, but my usage scenario is rather peculiar/complicated, therefore i really need your help.
First of all, let me tell you that i have had many smartwatches in the past, but never so far an Android Wear device.
My main phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and it shall remain my main phone. I also have an Android device handy at most times (right now it is a Galaxy K Zoom).
XDA member @MohammadAG has already demonstrated (but not yet released) his method for sending iOS notifications over to Android Wear and i have seen in some tech sites that an official Google solution might possibly come in the future.
Let me now tell you what my main usage case will be:
I have a BT 4.0 HR strap (from Wahoo) and i want to connect it to the watch and use it to monitor my HR while jogging. My health condition requires a rather careful monitoring of my HR so that it does not deviate from a certain comfort zone while exercising.
I have already seen there is a thread where people are discussing about this. However, i would be obliged if someone could certify that the Smartwatch 3 would work with a Wahoo HR strap while recording the route via GPS. Of course i need this to be happening while the Watch is offline - not connected to a phone. Can it also play music via BT at the same time?
I could instead purchase a dedicated sports watch, but:
a) I find them ugly
b) They are too big
c) They do nothing more
What do you think? Would the Smartwatch 3 work in this usage scenario?
Would you recommend the rubber one or the metal one?
Thank you very much in advance.
As long as your android device is 4.3 or later, you should be good to go. Someone in another thread said their wahoo tickr works fine. All btle HRMs seem to be working.
https://support.google.com/androidwear/answer/6056401?hl=en
Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?
Mine is accurate, im using runkeeper, I run without smartphone. ...booom what a feeling
@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?
No iPhone and no HR device on Wear watch
I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.
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Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?
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Very accurate when it's connected to my Xperia Z3. I used it with my tablet before I got the phone and can say its a little lame without the portability of a phone, as well as data usage. I love Sony, and I'll say go support them, but if you're dum- very determined on using an iPhone then why not get Apple's shinanigans. I was debating between this and a Garmin 920xt and it was basically deciding between a milkshake and a smoothie.
I'm too consider this watch to replace my motoactv. But problem is I'm using iPhone even though I owned an android tablet. [emoji4]
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My experience
I use the SW3 with a RHYTHM+ BT HRM and LG BT headphones and so run with no phone - GPS, music and heart rate tracking all through the watch. I use the Ghostracer app which has very customizable wear screens, and I have HR showing there. It also uploads seamlessly to Strava once I reconnect the phone.
The GPS accuracy is not as good as my old garmin, but it is better than my Samsung S5 in a waist strap (i.e., before I switched to just the watch)
Top tip, turn off the phone bluetooth before you start. The wear needs to be disconnected before it will work in standalone mode for the run.
Biggest downside? No audible feedback from the running apps yet. So no lap pace, time etc. But then again, the data is right on your wrist.
With my set up the watch battery dies at approx 30% an hour. So if you are running a marathon, better step it up!
Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
Oh - and in summary - YES, totally recommend it. Best thing since my MotoActv, and it means i can keep my phone in my pocket during the day where it belongs. Not to mention other cool apps, like one that will analyze your golf swing.
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@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?
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No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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mertzi said:
I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.
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No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.
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It used to but not any longer. The last time, before I started doing what I described, I waited for 5+ minutes without a lock. On that occasion the watch had been powered off for 2 weeks and not synced with my phone. So I went home, synced to my phone and then I got a lock within a minute. That's why I'm convinced the watch relies on some kind of A-GPS solution and needs access to the internet frequently to work properly.
I bought a Smartwatch 3 when they first came out; primarily because I wanted a simple heart rate monitor, but as I could get the Sony for not much more and perhaps get some additional functionality I thought it would be good to try. In the end though, I never did find a simple heart rate monitor application which I was satisfied with so 2 weeks ago I bought a Polar M400. This works superbly as a heart rate monitor and activity tracker, has a very good (albeit monochrome) display and also has a built-in GPS. In the 2 weeks I've has it, the battery indicator as gone down to a little over half, so I expect the battery to last 3 or 4 weeks.
Of course, the Polar doesn't give me notifications and I can't play flappy bird on it or talk to it, but Polar have announced that they will release an update which will enable it to show notifications and this is the only thing which I would in any way want anyway. Overall, this should be a good compromise for me as long as the battery life doesn't suffer too much. I'll probably sell my Sony and perhaps get another real smart watch when the battery life and apps have improved. In my opinion, Android Wear could have captured a good part of the sport watch market if it would have included a good fitness app right from the start.
-Mark.
guyoutred said:
Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.
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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.
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The TFT screen is amazing! So many sites would knock it for it, but it's very impressive tech. Yes, it doesn't have the best colors like other watches but the best part of it is that I can ALWAYS see the time even with having the screen off. So battery life is very good on this watch. That is perfect for a watch and why I chose the Sony SW 3.
So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?
brizey said:
So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?
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Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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tu3218 said:
Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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Yeah, like pretty much unavailable limited here in the US, lol. I can't find anywhere but Ebay mark up trolls that have it, and most are in the Russian Federation.
It looks amazing, you should definitely buy it.
My experience is the same as guyoutred. I use it with a Mio Link BTLE HRM and Motorola S11-HD BT heaphones while running. Ghostracer is the way to go, also wish it had audible updates and autolaps. GPS was dead-on today, but yesterday (cloudy, rainy) it tracked my run but had my position move south several miles then back again. Showed me with a 2min/mile pace.
I'm using the Walkman app for music, tried the Wear Music app but it was very cumbersome. This bad boy has now turned into the perfect replacement for my old MotoActv. Too bad it took this long for a company to satisfy this demand.

[Q] Noob question about the clock

Hi
I know little about Android Wear but have been doing a lot of reading. My choice at the moment is the Moto 360. I have a very noob question.
Does the watch get the time from the time on the phone it is linked to? If so, that seems almost as good as an atomic watch. But what happens when you are out of range of your bluetooth connected phone? I know most things stop working but I understand the clock keeps going. Does that mean it also has a quartz thing inside to maintain reasonable accuracy? Is it possible to correct the time or change your timezone if you are not connected to the phone?
TIA
This works like an electronic watch, using a battery powered timer chip. No quartz crystal.
When disconnected from the phone, it just uses the internal electronics to increment the time one second at a time.
jj14 said:
This works like an electronic watch, using a battery powered timer chip. No quartz crystal.
When disconnected from the phone, it just uses the internal electronics to increment the time one second at a time.
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Thanks, but presumably it normally does get its time from the phone and hence the network?
I don't know how often it syncs up the time with the phone, but I suspect it would be rare. Else, it would be unnecessary battery usage.
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Thanks, but presumably it normally does get its time from the phone and hence the network?
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There is no way to set the time on the watch so it has to come from the phone. As to how often it sync's to the phone I am not sure, but even clocks that sync to the atomic clock don't sync up all the time. I have never had an issue with my watch not matching the time on my phone.
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There is no way to set the time on the watch so it has to come from the phone. As to how often it sync's to the phone I am not sure, but even clocks that sync to the atomic clock don't sync up all the time. I have never had an issue with my watch not matching the time on my phone.
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That sounds logical. I used to have a watch that synced with the European atomic clock in Frankfurt every day about 2am but sold it after I moved to an area more than 1000km away, which was its specified range. Now I'm even further away from one and it will be great not to think I need to check its accuracy every few days (my version of OCD!).
I've ordered the Moto from Amazon and hope to have it in a few days. Decided not to wait for the Huawei, one reason being that it looks like it won't have an ambient light sensor.
I'm looking forward to being able to see my emails etc on the phone and not have to take out my expensive phone in some areas where it is not particularly safe to do so. I'm pretty sure I won't be putting the Rolex watch face on it, though
So I'm joining the club soon.

Zenfone 3 Deluixe 5.7 owners - please confirm?

Conflicting reports in regards to NFC on the higher-end Deluxe models. GSM Arena reports it's available, PDAdb, which i believe is more reliable doesn't even mention 'NFC'.
I believe this VERY common feature has been 'avoided' in this phone, absolutely foolish by ASUS as it's keeping me away from this phone. Can someone please confirm? Anyone know why this decision was made despite the fact they have the 5.5", 5.7" deluxe variants and the ULTRA, which isn't much better?
Thanks
RoOSTA
It is available BUT it is in the very top of the phone.
Most phones use the battery and have NFC centered around the middle of the back. The ASUS Zenfone 3 deluxe, and the ZTE Axon 7, have it at the top of the phone, around where the speaker is located.
I don't know WHY it was put there but I eventually found it with a bit of hair pulling...
Somethings need to be the top part of the back but you can also use the very top of the phone too. A little annoying as this isn't very well explained...
NFC sensor is on the front near the top of the screen.
Yes, it have NFC, in te top of the phone near the call's speaker
I used it all days with some nfc tags.
An awkward location to put the NFC. You cannot see the screen when it is contacting the other device.
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It is available BUT it is in the very top of the phone.
Most phones use the battery and have NFC centered around the middle of the back. The ASUS Zenfone 3 deluxe, and the ZTE Axon 7, have it at the top of the phone, around where the speaker is located.
I don't know WHY it was put there but I eventually found it with a bit of hair pulling...
Somethings need to be the top part of the back but you can also use the very top of the phone too. A little annoying as this isn't very well explained...
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Thanks guys. Can you show me a quick NFC tag scan in a short video please?
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Thanks guys. Can you show me a quick NFC tag scan in a short video please?
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Hey, so I sometimes get the NFC to work (unlike my zenfone 2) bit when I tap to send / beam a picture it goes to Google play and tries to install the gallery app. Anyone know how to send the picture instead?
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Hey, so I sometimes get the NFC to work (unlike my zenfone 2) bit when I tap to send / beam a picture it goes to Google play and tries to install the gallery app. Anyone know how to send the picture instead?
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You "sometimes get it to work" ? Pretty crap phone if it doesn't work as intended...
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You "sometimes get it to work" ? Pretty crap phone if it doesn't work as intended...
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I get NCF to work.. Did not realize the chip was in a different location than model 2. Model 2 is rooted and can send pics via beam with no problem. Version 3 when I try to beam tries to install the app. Don't need wise ass comments. Joined XDA for "real" advice. If I need bull**** comments, remarks, etc I would have just posted on ****ty websites. Real question for real answers. If you have nothing else to do shut the **** up

			
				
The NFC is located at the top of the phone. You could "image" it's using the 3.5mm jack as the center of antenna. (Although it's actually there..)
I use the NFC function almost daily for payment (for convenience store purchase as well as subway ride) and it works 100% of time. (never second time touch) The way I use it is screen facing me, only the very top of phone (basically where the 3.5mm jack is located) is touching the payment terminal reception pad.
Most of the payment terminal will even accept the phone lying flat, LCD up as long as the 3.5mm jack is located near center of the payment terminal's reception pad.
The reason why NFC is located at top of phone is that the back of this phone is made by one piece of metal. NFC signal will have trouble pass this metal barrier. Beside, I found it's easier to use as NFC is at top since can hold the phone 45 degrees (LCD facing me) instead stick the back of the phone flat to the payment terminal when making payment.
Also, the screen is not needed to be on when making payment (YMMV, may depend on APP). The sensitivity of NFC is even better then my cashless credit card. (I tested both at same terminal).
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The NFC is located at the top of the phone. You could "image" it's using the 3.5mm jack as the center of antenna. (Although it's actually there..)
I use the NFC function almost daily for payment (for convenience store purchase as well as subway ride) and it works 100% of time. (never second time touch) The way I use it is screen facing me, only the very top of phone (basically where the 3.5mm jack is located) is touching the payment terminal reception pad.
Most of the payment terminal will even accept the phone lying flat, LCD up as long as the 3.5mm jack is located near center of the payment terminal's reception pad.
The reason why NFC is located at top of phone is that the back of this phone is made by one piece of metal. NFC signal will have trouble pass this metal barrier. Beside, I found it's easier to use as NFC is at top since can hold the phone 45 degrees (LCD facing me) instead stick the back of the phone flat to the payment terminal when making payment.
Also, the screen is not needed to be on when making payment (YMMV, may depend on APP). The sensitivity of NFC is even better then my cashless credit card. (I tested both at same terminal).
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Thanks for the info. One of the downsides of the body design I guess... Good to see its working for you and there's a way around it. I would've gone for this phone had root been available on it by now. Lack of IR is something I don't use all the time, but still find it important and am using on my V20...
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2 serious issues i need to fix with A7 2017

Hello, i only have my smart phone (my first one ever) since yesterday.
Managed to set some things up but i can already tell these devices consume a lot of time to do be set up and working right.
One of the first things i did was upgrade it to the latest Android version (7).
Today i took it to the pool to test it's water resistance - it is water resistant, that's the good news, but the bad news is that every time i held the phone under water it would stop recording the video after just a few seconds being submerged, and this with both, front and rear camera - it always showed some note saying something like "in this mode it can not zoom in and zoom out"!! Huh, i did not try to zoom in or out at all and have no clue why it would do this, anyone having an idea??
Next problem ... yesterday (with the original Android version it came with still on) i could connected the USB cord to the laptop and get my pictures out of the device .. today every attempt (except 1) gave me a Windows error message saying something like Windows can not recognize this USB device!! I tried everything, plug te cord into the USB2 port instead of the USB 3 port, same problem, i rebooted te laptop, same problem, i rebooted the phone several times same problem, what on earth is this and how can i fix it??
Hello, are you sure you have the android 7.0? Thanks
You should do factory reset, its highly recommended after android upradge. Be sure to back up everything important, as it will erase internal storage.
7.0 !!!
Rudme said:
Today i took it to the pool to test it's water resistance - it is water resistant, that's the good news, but the bad news is that every time i held the phone under water it would stop recording the video after just a few seconds being submerged, and this with both, front and rear camera - it always showed some note saying something like "in this mode it can not zoom in and zoom out"!! Huh, i did not try to zoom in or out at all and have no clue why it would do this, anyone having an idea??
Next problem ... yesterday (with the original Android version it came with still on) i could connected the USB cord to the laptop and get my pictures out of the device .. today every attempt (except 1) gave me a Windows error message saying something like Windows can not recognize this USB device!!
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The phone being water resistant as far as I understand does not mean that it can operate normally under water. It means that being submerged in water (hopefully) will not destroy it. Your particular problem might have to do with the touch screen. Capacitive touch screens can wrongly detect humidity as touch - even if you use them with wet hands. So maybe the display just detects user input while under water?
For the other issue I am afraid I cannot help. Windows can have the most bizarre USB issues. Just make sure that if you ever you did submerge your phone, you do not plug it to the PC (or anything else) before you are absolutely 100% positive that there is no residual humidity in the USB port.
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The phone being water resistant as far as I understand does not mean that it can operate normally under water. It means that being submerged in water (hopefully) will not destroy it. Your particular problem might have to do with the touch screen. Capacitive touch screens can wrongly detect humidity as touch - even if you use them with wet hands. So maybe the display just detects user input while under water?
For the other issue I am afraid I cannot help. Windows can have the most bizarre USB issues. Just make sure that if you ever you did submerge your phone, you do not plug it to the PC (or anything else) before you are absolutely 100% positive that there is no residual humidity in the USB port.
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Thanks for the useful reply, i can actually by now answer the issue with Windows not recognizing the USB port of the smart phone, and hopefully this will help others that i have noticed have come across this same issue in great numbers .... I noticed first that also quick charging only did slow charging, using the same port as needed to connect the device to a pc (USB port) than i also noticed that the speakers had no sound .... so i dawned on me ... there is HUMIDITY from the lengthy under water testing in these two "cavities"!! I mean, no water went into the device as such, but some humidity remained in there even though the rest of the phone was completely dried up and everything else was working just fine. Did what i learned online somewhere ... blow it out with the mouth as good as possible and than drop it into a bowl of rice (the rice sucks up moisture like a sponge or even greater). After an hour or so the USB worked just fine again, sound was not yet back in the speaker only in the headset, but after another 'rice hour" also that came back to live!!
Now i only have to find out if under water video taking is simply impossible .. but than again, i saw plenty of such under water videos taken by people in pools, so it should actually be possible, just how??
Yes, touch functions do not react well anymore when the hands are completely wet and this is something don't get, for photos we can use the volume rocker, but for videos not, but it would make a lot of sense to have the option as well for video when the device or the hands are very wet.
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Thanks for the useful reply, i can actually by now answer the issue with Windows not recognizing the USB port of the smart phone, and hopefully this will help others that i have noticed have come across this same issue in great numbers .... I noticed first that also quick charging only did slow charging, using the same port as needed to connect the device to a pc (USB port) than i also noticed that the speakers had no sound .... so i dawned on me ... there is HUMIDITY from the lengthy under water testing in these two "cavities"!! I mean, no water went into the device as such, but some humidity remained in there even though the rest of the phone was completely dried up and everything else was working just fine. Did what i learned online somewhere ... blow it out with the mouth as good as possible and than drop it into a bowl of rice (the rice sucks up moisture like a sponge or even greater). After an hour or so the USB worked just fine again, sound was not yet back in the speaker only in the headset, but after another 'rice hour" also that came back to live!!
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I am not an expert, but to me it seems you were lucky the use of the USB connector containing residual water did not damage the phone (or perhaps even the PC). No matter how waterproof the device itself is, due to the open design of our devices' ports, water can collect in them. If you plug a USB cable or headphones, a current will flow. Water in a connection like that can cause a short-circuit. For that reason my old Xperia had little port-doors that sealed the USB port. Unfortunately, those are prone to break off - and simply a pain in the back side to open and close for every charge.
My A5 got wet once, and there even was a message along the lines of "Moisture detected. Please do not plug anything until 100% dry again." And I think that advice should be heeded.
Nope, it still says 6.0.1
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Hmm, i thought the update (pretty heavy one) was to Nougat and not just an updated version of Marshmallow .... bummer
I find it absolutely crazy that you tested your device by submerging it in water for an extended length of time.
Water resistant does not mean waterproof.
I highly doubt that Samsung actually intend the phone to be used under water. Moreover it's protection against accidently dropping the device in to water and gives a level of protection where the device won't be instantly ruined.
They don't make specific underwater cameras for nothing.
Secondly the error regarding the malfunction isn't surprising either. The focusing system probably isnt designed to cope with the refraction effect of the water.
It may work in fixed mode, I don't know. However I don't think it's actually intended to be used that way.
Let alone the damaging effect of electrolysis by passing a current through a water soiled port.
Fixed mode??
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I find it absolutely crazy that you tested your device by submerging it in water for an extended length of time.
Water resistant does not mean waterproof.
I highly doubt that Samsung actually intend the phone to be used under water. Moreover it's protection against accidently dropping the device in to water and gives a level of protection where the device won't be instantly ruined.
They don't make specific underwater cameras for nothing.
Secondly the error regarding the malfunction isn't surprising either. The focusing system probably isnt designed to cope with the refraction effect of the water.
It may work in fixed mode, I don't know. However I don't think it's actually intended to be used that way.
Let alone the damaging effect of electrolysis by passing a current through a water soiled port.
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Thanks for your answer ashyx.
I did not submerge the Samsung Galaxy A7 (2017) without due prior research!
Meaning .... if you check on Youtube for under water videos taken with this particular smart phone you find a bunch that all seemed to have great fun with it for extended periods of time in the pool, so i assumed if it works for them it should also work for me .... but, of course, your point was also of concern to me, none of these videos tell me what happened to their phones afterwards etc.
On mine the headset, for instance, still works for sound, but the volume and mute buttons on the headset are currently no longer reacting and the speaker is off and on still .... on the other hand, the water resistance clearly points out "can be submerged in water for up to 30 minutes and i am not sure if it says a debt of 1.50 or only 0.5 meters, and i never put it further down than maybe 10 or 20 cm's and for less than 5 minutes each time, so, it this IP68 or whatever it is called is of any real life truth and value the device should have zero problems with being under water for a video of 2 minutes at 15 cm or so dept.
Your thought of the water interfering with the focus metering i can agree with, was also my thought, but in all the YouTube videos i did not see this type of problem , so i am not sure if this was a case that these people all new how to set the camera into some FIXED MODE - can you please let me know how to do this, i did not find any settings for this???
Won't the message about moisture warning appear not allowing you to charge?
It will - but will you see it??
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Won't the message about moisture warning appear not allowing you to charge?
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Absolutely Pandotaz, but this message appears on the login screen and i have no login pwd or the like established, so it disappears quickly .. not to mention the small and hard to read print, in other words, easy to over look, exactly what happened to me, but that's what happens to not-so-smart- smart phone beginners who are already a bit older than average :crying:
At this point i would like to repeat my question in last reply, how do i set a smart phone camera to "FIXED MODE " anyone??

Fingerprint sensor useless

I have had this phone since September and came from Huawei P30 Pro, before that Honor V10, Huawei P20 which had fast fingerprint sensor and worked 99% of the time first time .
I cannot believe how bad this sensor is in real use, unlock success rate is about 5% no matter how many times I delete and Reregistered all fingers.
I scan my prints and test in the setup and they are acknowledged correctly but once I start using for real to unlock the phone or approve stuff it rarely works.
I have tried all kinds of angles and strengths of press but it's useless.
Running the beta in hope of improvement but it's still useless.
Did I get a bad unit here or is Samsung just totally crap with fingerprint sensors?
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After you've registered your fingerprints.... re-register them to improve the accuracy of the scanner. Also, if you find it sluggish, reduce the animations in the settings...
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I am reregistering prints to try and improve and after every update hoping something is better.
As said when setting up and checking it is fine but when I have to use for example with 2FA app to approve a log in it just fails "fingerprint not recognised" before eventually going to pin.
Will try the animation setting and see if that helps.
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for a while, the Note10+ fingerprint reader had a terrible success rate, no matter what "hacks" i used to try to make it better (i.e. multiple fingers, the "test/learning" hack, etc.) — loads of "make sure you cover the entire sensor" and "no match found" etc.
this tip might be crazy, but it does work: MOISTURIZE LIGHTLY.
100% serious.
my right thumb was not able to unlock my Note while i was working at my desk. super frustrating. looked at my hands, thought they were looking dry, so i put a dab of glycerin hand cream on and BANG: every single damn time now, regardless of whether my thumb is vertical or sideways.
I got my Note 10+ today and have spend a long time setting it up. Once I registered my prints I had not issues (unless I didn't press firmly enough on the screen). It's been fine for me thus far.
You shouldn't compare ultrasonic fingerprint sensors that are in their early stages with optical ones that have been out there for years. Ultrasonic is much more secure. And saying that success rate is only 5% means that you either have a defective unit or need to change the way you use it. I have a success rare of no less that 90%... not as accurate and quick as my old note 8 with its optical sensor but I got used to it
I've had no issues with the fingerprint sensor, before or after the update.
AM Radio said:
for a while, the Note10+ fingerprint reader had a terrible success rate, no matter what "hacks" i used to try to make it better (i.e. multiple fingers, the "test/learning" hack, etc.) — loads of "make sure you cover the entire sensor" and "no match found" etc.
this tip might be crazy, but it does work: MOISTURIZE LIGHTLY.
100% serious.
my right thumb was not able to unlock my Note while i was working at my desk. super frustrating. looked at my hands, thought they were looking dry, so i put a dab of glycerin hand cream on and BANG: every single damn time now, regardless of whether my thumb is vertical or sideways.
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heh yeah classic S10+ fingerprint reader from Samsung. I also found the same "you need to lick your finger first. Yeah, it's not a joke. " :laugh:
yep lick your finger first does actually work, if you have dry hands the scanner is mostly trash, use moisturiser/lick/damp your finger and it will work near 100% reliability. basically if you don't have clammy hands it will likely be hit and miss.
actually found myself in bars using the condensation on my drinks to help me unlock the phone, it seems an odd thing but it seems moisture in your skin is a massive deciding factor on it working.

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