I know we didn't get the first firmware update, that supposedly increased battery usage, performance etc, but maybe we get this one?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/11/21/samsung-galaxy-note-4-getting-another-over-the-air-update/
That's for international phones and since we are not rooted and don't have custom recovery for AT&T we can't use it
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I'm sure you will see one shortly anyways for the gear vr . It was stated during oculus connect that a ota will have to roll out in front of the release. Which the release is scheduled for beginning of December. That is unless the update will only push if you have it connected to the VR. I guess only time will tell.
AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does) could do 1 of 3 things
1) Release the first update, then the second, then lollipop (least likely)
2) Release a combined update with both the first and second updates (possible, though unlikely, maybe this is why the didn't bother with the first one)
3) Don't release anything ecept Lollipop. Logically, it would contain any previous updates in the 5.0 build (most likely what will happen)
#3 seems to be the main choice. I can't understand why AT&T or any other carrier would spend a single cent on software and development. It doesn't seem to fit what they do. They can push in their bloatware without holding back on everything. Maybe they do stability testing, and ensuring it doesn't effect the network stability, which I would understand, but minor updates are way toooooo hard to trickle down from the manufacturer to the end user.
I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
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That IS awesome :laugh:
Yea I can't believe that situation with the gear vr needing a firmware update to work. If it's left to the carriers, a lot of early adopters may be stuck waiting. It doesn't work on any retail version of the phone right now, according to the oculus forums.
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AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does)
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Wow... a bit aggressive of a response (but thats the internet for ya). Not many people here defending the carriers.
The international devices are not managed in the same way. I certainly understand testing for their network, but I am sure that the international networks are not crashing from lack of testing. The system in the US is out of date. Few, would argue it. Google certainly seems to thing so, they are unbundling much of their software to avoid dealing with the carriers on updates. Other companies like HTC have also begun releasing their included software as separate apps that can be updated via google play. There are many threads throughout XDA that call for eliminating the carriers from the updates system. I see it happening at some point, though not soon.
I for one am not against their blocking root. I like root, I have rooted many devices, but hacking a device to put on their network that can break their network, or exploit their resources, is an understandable precaution, however, withholding a firmware update issued by the manufacturer that provides either improved usability of a device, or fixes for discovered flaws seems extremely anti consumer and wrong.
I am very pro business, I don't hate the carriers, I understand what they do, and why they do it. I just don't like this 1 thing about them. Simple. I still want to know why they waste any of their resources on holding back and doing whatever to the updates before rolling them out, if they roll them out at all. If I had a GPE device or a Nexus device, they don't block the upgrades. iPhone either. (and I seriously doubt much advanced testing gets done on them by the carriers)
That is a great point at the end. IPhone. For as big as they've gotten, they don't block updates. I know people will say there aren't as many device variants etc. But most times the updates are available and carriers or specific manufactures hold them back or never release them.
AT&T blocking carrier firmware updates? Do we have any proof of this, or are we only assuming? I have heard in times past, this is what Google did to market the Android OS to the major carriers to get leaway on Apple. To make this "new" OS very appealing. To gain leverage.
1: to the device manufacturers - a free OS (or very cheep) that can be skinned to their hearts content.
2: to the carriers - to have any software installed, and not removed by customers. To have any form of limitations implemented for the sake of their business model.
arjun90 said:
I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
What do we have here on this new update. Hi gear VR.
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
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Someone, somewhere (sorry, I don't remember exactly where) had a photo of the actual (allegedly) working document with time tables and status updates from Samsung for Lollipop. It listed the Note 4, but NOT the AT&T version as "Final Testing" due in "January 15"
However, the point of this conversation is that it won't be rolled out to the carriers at the same time as the Samsung responsibility models are. So that date means very little. Well, if history serves, I seriously doubt that AT&T will release it before Samsung releases the international versions.
JasonJoel said:
Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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@JasonJoel I just have to say, after reading your posts on this thread and another, I am pretty sure you are an AT&T Corp spy sent to XDA to get info and spin positive feedback for the company lol Kidding #notkidding
Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Well said sir well said I agree with you overall on that.
This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
raduque said:
This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
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Lol. Delete that ****e.
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OK everybody this thread has gotten way off topic while waiting for our OTA update which is supposed to be "tomorrow" (if you're confused just read a few pages) This thread now is a place for us to joke around, slander Verizon and talk about DIX
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I just noticed that HTC released OTA ICS for the rezound and a couple others, I'm really hoping this means we will be next in line for OTA cause we all know what that means!!! Figured I'd give you guys a heads up.
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Or they'll announce that we don't get it... But hopefully what you said.
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Or they'll announce that we don't get it... But hopefully what you said.
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Well HTC claimed we would get it june-july but obviously that didn't happen...so yes hopefully what I said lol
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Also this was posted about a week ago
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I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.
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I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.
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Seriously? Show me one damn person that uses that bloatware that comes bundled, I know I don't. Silly Verizon. :banghead:
Thanks?
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Triscuit said:
Well HTC claimed we would get it june-july but obviously that didn't happen...so yes hopefully what I said lol
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Do you have a link to when they said June or July?
The only eta I ever read was August... I don't think we have anything to worry about personally, but only time will tell. I don't really care as long as they release kernel source for at least one of the other variations of the dinc2 that already has official ics. I have given up on sense roms anyways since I switched to ics.
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Do you have a link to when they said June or July?
The only eta I ever read was August... I don't think we have anything to worry about personally, but only time will tell. I don't really care as long as they release kernel source for at least one of the other variations of the dinc2 that already has official ics. I have given up on sense roms anyways since I switched to ics.
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
And you are correct as well as they have both "june-july" and August lol
is it august yet? go go go go
We still need 3.0 kernel source.
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We still need 3.0 kernel source.
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Bah! This is the same old speculation that we are doing... Just wait it out, and see... Hopefully good news. Let's rant/rage if and when VZW screws us over... but till then just chill gang!
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Bah! This is the same old speculation that we are doing... Just wait it out, and see... Hopefully good news. Let's rant/rage if and when VZW screws us over... but till then just chill gang!
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^^Exactly^^ I'm willing to wait it out, I've got jelly bean on my phone already and its awesome.
They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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prototype7 said:
They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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Yes.....eventually
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They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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kernel source from oem's is a murky proposition at best....ideally source would be available as soon as an update is out, but htc hides behind their typical (90-120 days after release) window....though (thunderbolt gb update) they have released source on the same day as an update
i have no idea why they pull this, since theres nothing to change/add to the kernel since its already released, but there isnt much to do on our end...short of suing them
so idk
gtdtm said:
I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.
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Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.
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Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.
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Also keep on mind that that larger user base usually doesn't know what software version their phone has and they probably think GB is the latest since their phone says up to date if they check under software updates. It's true that we're a smaller segment of a larger group, but we're the ones that keep up with this kind of stuff and actually care about updates on time. Other users could care less as long as their phone gets the job done.
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Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.
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I get that, but don't promise something you can't deliver... It turns me off of both HTC and vzw more than if they would have said, "we'll research it and see if we can."
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I get that, but don't promise something you can't deliver... It turns me off of both HTC and vzw more than if they would have said, "we'll research it and see if we can."
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Well Verizon or HTC haven't said anything about the Inc2 since the initial memo. Again going by e DesireHD is wrong since its not the same phone. Verizon or HTC saying "well research and see" would still cause you to be mad. If the IncS got it the Inc2 should be getting it they're identical phones for the most part.
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So, we all know what the Oppo N3's main feature is, the motorized swivel camera! The high quality optics involved should give great quality snaps, plus with the swivel feature, selfies will never look so good (results may vary with operator:laugh So will this rather niche feature attract anybody? Or is the fear of the mechanism failing more of a concern?
Who's going to be picking up the Oppo N3, and why?
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Has it been released yet? Does anybody have info if it will work with tmobile USA and how to get it in the states?
I'm thinking of getting this or the N1. But my main concern is if either of them will work w/ T-Mobile USA
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Very much interested and think available through Oppomart
As someone who has gone back and forth between android and iPhones over the years, although the iPhone 6 Plus has become my go-to phone since its release, I want to pack an Android phone as well as I still miss the sharing between apps that works so much better on Android despite Apple's attempts to catch up. That being said, there is no doubt after having an HTC One and Moto Droid Maxx, that the iPhone 6 Plus still has a better camera than most. That's why this Oppo intrigues me...a chance for a solidly built phone with what SOUNDS like a great or at least intriguing camera. Other intriguing features for me are that it has the option to have two SIM cards (or one SIM and an SD Card if willing to give up the nanoSIM slot) and the rapid charge to 75% in 30 minutes. My hold off is knowing whether it will work on Verizon in the US...it LOOKS like it has the right bands for that but I've noticed other world unlocked phones that can't do both voice and data.
So, my decision is down to this Oppo N3 or seeing if the Nexus 6 in 64Gb ever appears again in the Google Play store for the pure Google experience...though not sure how key that is given that we can custom ROM almost any phone.
Anyone else thinking of the Oppo N3?
Got one in China. Camera is pretty good at the first glance. 2 SIM-Cards. ColorOS working pretty fast and smooth. But no Google Apps in Chinese verison, and only Chinese and English languages. Many preinstalled apps chinese only. Good grip. Speakers are loud enough. 39k+ points in AnTuTu.
But can Google Play services be installed?
Are you able to install Google Play services and then install all your Google apps? Or is Color like Amazon's Fire OS and a closed system?
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Got one in China. Camera is pretty good at the first glance. 2 SIM-Cards. ColorOS working pretty fast and smooth. But no Google Apps in Chinese verison, and only Chinese and English languages. Many preinstalled apps chinese only. Good grip. Speakers are loud enough. 39k+ points in AnTuTu.
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I can install Google Play .apk but it doesn't start. And I can't flash GApps because there is currently no custom recovery for N3. But I don't have much understanding of flashing so maybe I'm doing something wrong. People was able to flash it on N1 with ColorOS, so I am just waiting for international ROM or custom recovery or cyanogen mod to do it.
Thinking that it's a North American version that is shipping now
Perhaps it's a different ROM shipping with this to North America and maybe it's Play Services compatible? You said you bought yours in China? Hoping someone else might know the answer but might need to post in a different thread since this one is just an "are you buying this or not" thread and not a technical one.
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I can install Google Play .apk but it doesn't start. And I can't flash GApps because there is currently no custom recovery for N3. But I don't have much understanding of flashing so maybe I'm doing something wrong. People was able to flash it on N1 with ColorOS, so I am just waiting for international ROM or custom recovery or cyanogen mod to do it.
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It must be Chinese variant only, because they have their own apps market. I just bought it because it was cheap and available.
Sorry, I don't know if this is correct thread to post it, just want to share my photo impressions. I did a comparison between Oppo N3 and LG G2 cameras. Overall I think N3 is a somewhat better camera. Here is one pair of photo in low-light conditions.
LG G2
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Definitely interested in getting this phone as soon as it becomes available to the UK, need something to replace my aging Droid 4. Things that attracted me:
The camera, obviously:
The dual-SIM feature, meaning I can stop using the bloody awful Blackberry Curve that work gave me, a phone so terrible I'd rather have a Nokia dumbphone from the 90s.
Concerns I have:
The comments in this thread about no GApps - though I'm guessing this is for the Chinese version due to local app stores, government censorship etc.
Will they do it in any colours other than white, or do I have to paint it? (I hate white phones)
Will a "selfie phone" attract many developers and get root and decent ROMs
Lollipop upgrade?
Availability of accessories - I really need a keyboard slider case.
And I still hope for an official CyanogenMod release like with N1.
There is a new review http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Oppo-N3-review_id3883 and they have Google Play on their phone.
Now showing on the European site but still no release date or pre-order
Price is €549 which works out at about £430.
http://europe.oppostyle.com/n3/
I saw this device for 150$
Is that true or not? What do you think 'bout it?
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I saw this device for 150$
Is that true or not? What do you think 'bout it?
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Got a link to it?
General rule is if it looks too good to be true, it probably is, though I'm still curious.
Only way this is likely to be real is if it were a secondhand Chinese model that someone doesn't want. That would mean no GApps until the International ROM turns up.
I believe the N3 is easy to root (literally just flash SuperSU.zip with ADB) so you could sideload all your other apps, but not aware of anyone getting GApps to work yet (so no Maps, GMail, Play Store, Calendar etc.)
I still remain doubtful of Oppo and OPO. I had gotten the OPO a few months after its release but the touch screen issues threw me off. I know its unfair to judge Oppo by the same standards, but I doubt they could implement the quality of the Apples, Samsungs, HTCs and LGs of today. But this on Cyanogenmod would def look appealing.
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I believe the N3 is easy to root (literally just flash SuperSU.zip with ADB) so you could sideload all your other apps, but not aware of anyone getting GApps to work yet (so no Maps, GMail, Play Store, Calendar etc.)
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Root process was a little different, but I flashed GApps too on my Chinesse N3. It's working.
Pre-order page is now up, supposedly shipping mid-January. £5 says it won't arrive at mine until the week I'm away on a business trip.
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Root process was a little different, but I flashed GApps too on my Chinesse N3. It's working.
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Care to share the rooting process? I don't intend for mine to remain stock for long
Edit: Think I found it, was it this app?
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Care to share the rooting process? I don't intend for mine to remain stock for long
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I used Kingroot from this page http://www.oppomobile.vn/forum/t/oppo-n3-root-recovery-gapps-tat-ca-o-day.13328/
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I used Kingroot from this page http://www.oppomobile.vn/forum/t/oppo-n3-root-recovery-gapps-tat-ca-o-day.13328/
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I found mention of kingroot on a random Chinese rooting video with only 13 views, so looks like that is the one to go for.
I have a feeling that I will be visiting Google Translate a lot in the few weeks after this phone arrives. If no-one has already done so by then I'll be sure to post English instructions in here once I get it working.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s6-...ollout-leaked-with-updated-schedule-25424189/
Oh good, will have to wait to February now. Samsung is getting much worse with it's updates!
Fake!
Maybe it's fake but it's 25 of January and still nothing from Samsung except the beta testing....
In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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Wow, i can't speak for everyone but I would like the update so my phone will work properly. I have poor reception on my phone, i cant really talk on my phone, get good internet connection, and have issues sending messages. I was advised by my wireless carrier and samsung, that the Marshmallow update would correct said problems. So maybe if they sold phones that worked properly out of the box, some of us wouldn't be crying for updates
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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I would if nexus 6p would have been released by the time I was buying the phone. Actually it's still not available in Slovenia, only 5x is, 6p is coming end of January/early February, and yes, I am considering switching with someone 1 for 1 for a nexus 6p when they will be available, even if it's 250€ cheaper. And I don't really consider it being "fast updates" for expecting an update 5 months after the release of the software by google.
Funny thing is that I'm arguing about software updates on xda forums.. correct me, but no one is developing hardware on this forum or are they?
Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
it's all BS.... This is my last Samsung phone. They have no respect at all for their costumers. I hope hope the Dutch law suit against them , screws them where they deserve.
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Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
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Well said... People are always complaining about the delayed updates but if an update cames out with bugs they complain also... This makes me laugh... Aren't your phones working?
Before Lollipop was released everyone was complaining and when it cames out i saw a lot of them returning to KK... if you all say the difference is minimal so what's the hurry?
They need to slim down the touchwiz stuff which may speed up the update times
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It's a fake. Don't believe in Ss. I buy an s6e+ for 1000$ in my country and still now there's no update. I think i'm gonna go back to iphone for the ip 6+ @@
people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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I only want Doze to save battery life, am not bothered about the other Android 6 features.
if samsung make there UI skin more like iOS then am happy to.
on my nexus 7 with marshmallow battery on standby is brill but screen time just normal
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Funny...
I was curious as to when MM would rollout to the AT&T Note 4, and the representative gave me the date May 8th, or a week from today. Good news!
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Yeah!
Can someone tell me if I can upgrade by odin?
I'd take that reps word with a very large grain of salt...
They notoriously lie. It reads like they are a not a native English speaker, so I'm going to assume offshore tech support and I doubt that they'd have exact time frames.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it rolls out then, but I'm not holding my breath.
Well supposedly on the r/galaxynote4 subreddit, someone talked to an ATT rep and they said May 16th.
(Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/4gri24/marshmallow_is_coming_to_att_note4_on/)
Anything between the 8th and 16th would be fantastic.
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Can someone tell me if I can upgrade by odin?
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You'll have to wait until someone can get the files together... Not really sure where/how they do that though...
That somebody better get the files tho #tempted
Yea an Odin flashable MM update for the note 4 would be cool. Shame we still dont have root....
My need for root disappears with Marshmallow... My only concern is being able to sandbox apps from accessing contacts, personal info, etc. This functionality is baked into Marshmallow. Know others want it for other reasons, but for me, at least they are giving me the functionality I need. Used to not be able to back up calls, sms, mms, etc. but that functionality is available too... Used to need to backup apps, but all my apps now backup to the cloud... At least Google is giving us functionality. I read somewhere, they are trying to give people the functionality most root their devices for.
I talked to another rep and she said the MM update already went out on 3/4/16, and that the MM update slides just the Note 4's into an alternate dimension, which is probably why we haven't seen it update yet. LOL
Seriously though I would be interested to see what the MM update actually does with this device... so I guess I'll keep trying to update starting next week... or the next... or the next... or after Obama leaves offfice next year...
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I received the notification for the update but did not yet choose to download it yet.
Still waiting for 6.0.1 Odin files.....
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I received the notification for the update but did not yet choose to download it yet.
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Betting it's just a small security update.
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I talked to another rep and she said the MM update already went out on 3/4/16, and that the MM update slides just the Note 4's into an alternate dimension, which is probably why we haven't seen it update yet. LOL
Seriously though I would be interested to see what the MM update actually does with this device... so I guess I'll keep trying to update starting next week... or the next... or the next... or after Obama leaves offfice next year...
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You sir (or ma'am) blew my mind.
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Checked to soon because I still had a 3 hour wait. Fast forwarded my clock and it says my current software is up to date. Guess you didn't update since the last security update since there's been 2 pretty close to each other.
Fast forwarded the date to tomorrow, checked for an update; still shows system currently up to date. No MM here.
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Fast forwarded the date to tomorrow, checked for an update; still shows system currently up to date. No MM here.
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I know that works if the update is actually available at that time, but I didn't think that worked if the update hasn't been "officially" released yet. Either way, it would be the first time they released an update on a Sunday (Mothers Day no less) wouldn't it? I don't think it's legit. I've had dozens of reps tell me they aren't informed "until a few days before an update is released usually." I think we'll be without Marshmallow until I upgrade to the Note 6. Then I'll be dying to know when Nougat (whatever Android N is called) is coming. And I'll be disappointed somehow LOL.
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I know that works if the update is actually available at that time, but I didn't think that worked if the update hasn't been "officially" released yet. Either way, it would be the first time they released an update on a Sunday (Mothers Day no less) wouldn't it? I don't think it's legit. I've had dozens of reps tell me they aren't informed "until a few days before an update is released usually." I think we'll be without Marshmallow until I upgrade to the Note 6. Then I'll be dying to know when Nougat (whatever Android N is called) is coming. And I'll be disappointed somehow LOL.
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Lol oohhh sammy, why can't you be as Google is with its Google nexus flagships? Whyyyyy. [emoji390] [emoji375]
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Im finding it kinda odd that i have not taken either of the security updates but now that i reenabled the updater it shows no update and that my phone is current.... did at&t pull the security update? Or is it a prelude to mm hitting their server soon?? I have all but given up on root for the at&t variant. So i will gladly move on to the mm update and maybe it will gix some overheating issues with the oculus galaxy vr inovators edition (doubtful) but still worth a try.
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Im finding it kinda odd that i have not taken either of the security updates but now that i reenabled the updater it shows no update and that my phone is current.... did at&t pull the security update? Or is it a prelude to mm hitting their server soon?? I have all but given up on root for the at&t variant. So i will gladly move on to the mm update and maybe it will gix some overheating issues with the oculus galaxy vr inovators edition (doubtful) but still worth a try.
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You use the vr? Is it really worth it? That's if you have it of course
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You use the vr? Is it really worth it? That's if you have it of course
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Yes i have the innovators edition the first unit to publicly come out and yes it is 1000% worth it the 360 stills are so realistic its like you are there. And the ammount of free video content is awesome. I can also switch it into developers mode and use all the google cardboard apps as well like roller coaster simulators. There are a few games available for it as well my favorite types of those are similar to a roller coaster except you are a pilot of a ship and u use the side touch pannel to shoot in the direction you are looking. There is also a built in vr cinima where it feels and looks like you are setting in a full fledged movie theater here you can watch 3d movies, your personal video files. There is also milk vr by samsung that has a decent content library including a little vr cartoon about a but her and a rabbit. There is a app from oculus home that jas a cool ride thru an insane aasylum called catatonic and it scares the crap outa most people i tried it on one went as far as to rip the b ead gear off and throw it luckily i cought it lol.
But to sum it up. It is awesome. You can literally go any where in the world almost like being there while standing in your living room or setting in a a swivel chair.
So since buying the PD I've had no updates. No monthly security patch. Nothing, nada, zilch.
Is this what life with a Huawei device is like? Buy it then bugger off? I've not owned a Huawei before.
The Mate 9 has on the other hand received a couple of updates so far.
Is it tied into to Pro and therefore until sales ramp up not much will be incoming?
I'm looking forward the S8 if this is the cases! And it'll be my last Huawei device.:silly:
bonerp said:
So since buying the PD I've had no updates. No monthly security patch. Nothing, nada, zilch.
Is this what life with a Huawei device is like? Buy it then bugger off? I've not owned a Huawei before.
The Mate 9 has on the other hand received a couple of updates so far.
Is it tied into to Pro and therefore until sales ramp up not much will be incoming?
I'm looking forward the S8 if this is the cases! And it'll be my last Huawei device.:silly:
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Ha!
I was thinking exactly the same thing!!
It's a beautiful phone though!
I'm hoping the next update gets the Barclays Bank apps working soon. It's a pain not being able to do mobile banking
I got an update as soon as I first started it...this was on Dec 15th and it was the B138, then nothing more.
Different release schedules are irritating as well. European users are still waiting for the B156 firmware which was released in some countries more than a month ago. These countries are even getting a newer B16x release already, which I suppose will reach Europe by April if we get lucky.
I got my first update to pro version this week. I like the device also but if this is how the software updates to I will also leave Huawei for good after this
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I got my first update to pro version this week. I like the device also but if this is how the software updates to I will also leave Huawei for good after this
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I'm guessing Scandinavia? Samsung isn't any better, neither is LG - the best bet would actually be Google Pixel, which might also be left in the dark. When it comes to software updates, the Android ecosystem sucks BADLY.
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I'm guessing Scandinavia? Samsung isn't any better, neither is LG - the best bet would actually be Google Pixel, which might also be left in the dark. When it comes to software updates, the Android ecosystem sucks BADLY.
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At least Samsung provided monthly security patches (later than google) for its latest devices.
Same thing here, no updates since December.
Can't really complain about any serious bugs though, wish they would fine tune the auto rightness a bit better but oh well.
No update on the pro either (even though I know it available in some regions )
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Hi,
same here and cam really pissed for a device with 1400 EUR.
Also having a Mate 9 with several updates between Dec. and now.
Ihm missing mostly volTE and Wifi Calling. So much needed here.
I askes several times Huawei and get no feedback. What happen at Huawei?
I sent an email to huawei complaining about this:
"Bought my PD Mate 9 in december and firmware version is stil B138. No security patches since then, although on asian models there has been several updates. It is a miserable policy of your company. This is my third and last huawei phone"
and their reply was:
"The updating of our equipment is carried out in accordance with the specificities that our models present in terms of software and even in terms of hardware (equipment capacities), depending on the region to which they are destined to commercialization. Given this fact, there may be models available in other regions for which a certain update has already been made available in the sense of a security patch, and making this update available for other models may be made later. However we remember that the equipment model that indicates us already operates with the latest operating system version and user interface and it will be a matter of time until the equipment receives updates of this version, namely of security patches"
A politically correct reply but meaning nothing!!
pasil.pt said:
I sent an email to huawei complaining about this:
"Bought my PD Mate 9 in december and firmware version is stil B138. No security patches since then, although on asian models there has been several updates. It is a miserable policy of your company. This is my third and last huawei phone"
and their reply was:
"The updating of our equipment is carried out in accordance with the specificities that our models present in terms of software and even in terms of hardware (equipment capacities), depending on the region to which they are destined to commercialization. Given this fact, there may be models available in other regions for which a certain update has already been made available in the sense of a security patch, and making this update available for other models may be made later. However we remember that the equipment model that indicates us already operates with the latest operating system version and user interface and it will be a matter of time until the equipment receives updates of this version, namely of security patches"
A politically correct reply but meaning nothing!!
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Hello
this is not political correct and you should answer here urgently back:
Porsche Mate 9 / Pro or Mate 9 are similar based and Mate 9 gots a lot of updates in security area.
So what is the problem to get the security fixes here?
Android 7.0.1 is not save without monthly fixes.
So Huawei talks bull****.
You should feedback them
For me:
I will sell my PD and go back to Samsung or Apple. Here you get proper updates / fixes. Very important for us in a world, where Wikileaks is telling you, how many phones will be hacked on security based things.
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Hello
this is not political correct and you should answer here urgently back:
Porsche Mate 9 / Pro or Mate 9 are similar based and Mate 9 gots a lot of updates in security area.
So what is the problem to get the security fixes here?
Android 7.0.1 is not save without monthly fixes.
So Huawei talks bull****.
You should feedback them
For me:
I will sell my PD and go back to Samsung or Apple. Here you get proper updates / fixes. Very important for us in a world, where Wikileaks is telling you, how many phones will be hacked on security based things.
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You are absolutelly right. But I contacted Huawei international and the reply comes from office in Portugal. They can do nothing but wait for instructions from Huawei Headquarters.
But I will reply and let you know here any feedback
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You are absolutelly right. But I contacted Huawei international and the reply comes from office in Portugal. They can do nothing but wait for instructions from Huawei Headquarters.
But I will reply and let you know here any feedback
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Great!
I did the same in Germany.
Meanwhile going back to iPhone 7
In a new reply they say that updates are out of their competence and so i should wait. But iphone or samsung are not options as do not take 2 sim's
I've just had a thought..
Are we going about this the wrong way?
The brand is Porsche Design, and surely they wouldn't want their customers being let down, it looks bad on them...
Maybe we should all complain to them?
I've sent them a message on Facebook, might be worth a try if everyone makes a point of contacting them then they might put some pressure for some updates to be released?
Clearly Huawei has made this phone, then left it and is looking after its own brand.
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I've just had a thought..
Are we going about this the wrong way?
The brand is Porsche Design, and surely they wouldn't want their customers being let down, it looks bad on them...
Maybe we should all complain to them?
I've sent them a message on Facebook, might be worth a try if everyone makes a point of contacting them then they might put some pressure for some updates to be released?
Clearly Huawei has made this phone, then left it and is looking after its own brand.
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What you suggest can be done but I don't think it will be any worth. First, PD is a luxury ralated company and I believe most of their customers buy the phone and don´t worry abou updates and even less about freelance developers. But most important is that huawei also sells mate 9 PRO, which only differs from PD on memory (125 Gb instead of 250) and colour/stylistic finnishing.
So much more people who buy mate 9 PRO are left without updates.
I think that key pouit is about International models Vs Asian ones (these are updated more often).
But even about this, I remember that when I bought my Mate 8 from wondamobile they adviced me to wait for the international version, as they told that asian versions were not so reliable.I have no idea if this is true, but it is what I was told. But if it is true maybe that explains why asian models get more updates
pasil.pt said:
What you suggest can be done but I don't think it will be any worth. First, PD is a luxury ralated company and I believe most of their customers buy the phone and don´t worry abou updates and even less about freelance developers. But most important is that huawei also sells mate 9 PRO, which only differs from PD on memory (125 Gb instead of 250) and colour/stylistic finnishing.
So much more people who buy mate 9 PRO are left without updates.
I think that key pouit is about International models Vs Asian ones (these are updated more often).
But even about this, I remember that when I bought my Mate 8 from wondamobile they adviced me to wait for the international version, as they told that asian versions were not so reliable.I have no idea if this is true, but it is what I was told. But if it is true maybe that explains why asian models get more updates
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Sounds like you PD buyers have a raw deal here.. I bought a Mate 9 Pro and I have had 1 OTA update from B139 (my base when i bought it) to B156 since I purchased it back in Feb. And looks like today theyve started to roll out B172 for Mate 9 Pro too.
I check the following site to see when new OTA's are in the wild: (dont bother trying to download these files and apply them yourself, it doesnt work).
http://hwmt.ru/oth/HWFF/info/view.php?find_model=LON-L29
Then usually within a week or two (depends), they usually either show up in my phone or if I want them sooner Firmware Finder can download and push them to the Huawei Updater for me.
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Sounds like you PD buyers have a raw deal here.. I bought a Mate 9 Pro and I have had 1 OTA update from B139 (my base when i bought it) to B156 since I purchased it back in Feb. And looks like today theyve started to roll out B172 for Mate 9 Pro too.
I check the following site to see when new OTA's are in the wild: (dont bother trying to download these files and apply them yourself, it doesnt work).
http://hwmt.ru/oth/HWFF/info/view.php?find_model=LON-L29
Then usually within a week or two (depends), they usually either show up in my phone or if I want them sooner Firmware Finder can download and push them to the Huawei Updater for me.
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So i guess charmz2k2 was right and we, PD owners, are left alone. I can mail PD shop but I think they will reply me that has nothing to do with them
I totally think we've been screwed over. The phone cost twice the price of Pro (over twice the price of Mate 9) yet the warranty isn't as good and no updates.
I certainly won't be hooked by designer branding on phones again. Porsche should know better (how to treat its customers) whereas Huawei is like any chinese phone manufacturer and be out for itself. Disappointing. Waste of £600 in 3 months.
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Will try to update using firmware finder. Post results
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bonerp said:
I totally think we've been screwed over. The phone cost twice the price of Pro (over twice the price of Mate 9) yet the warranty isn't as good and no updates.
I certainly won't be hooked by designer branding on phones again. Porsche should know better (how to treat its customers) whereas Huawei is like any chinese phone manufacturer and be out for itself. Disappointing. Waste of £600 in 3 months.
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https://www.facebook.com/porschedesigngroup/
That's the group i sent the message to...
Let's all give it a go then..
Surely PD will have more pressure on them than us??
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Ok so that shows that there are a few updates for March...
Maybe it's on its way then?
I also mentioned about the crappy screen protection.. given the price, we should get at least gg5 surely??