Introduction
So a few months ago I got my first NFC implant in my left hand, I haven't been able to find a thread for those of us who have them or much information on them apart from the basics.
So here it is.
*UPDATE*
Did you know I gave a talk on NFC implants at The March Of The Droids Conference?
You do now, so here's the video
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What You Should Know
It's virtually painless to have them implanted
They should last a life time
The implant itself is about the size of a grain of rice
They can be removed easily if needed
They are smaller than standard NFC tags and therefore have a smaller range, on my note 2 it took me a while to find the spot I had to place my phone (the center of "SAMSUNG" on the back), however a week later I was able to get it straight away
They only have a small amount of storage, if you want to use it for longer or multiple links etc a url shortener is probably your best bet, however it can handle " my name, phone number, email address and facebook page"
You can feel it under the skin, but cant see any lump etc
Work or UNI cards can't be copied over to it however as the implant is Miifare compatible, my IT department at uni were more than happy to scan my hand and add it to the system
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General Uses
Unlocking phones
Miifare authentication
Logging in to Windows
Passing information such as URLs and contact details without the need for social media or email etc
Launching Tasker profiles
Opening Apps
Unlocking Samsung EZON digital locks
Activating Cyanogen Profiles
Anything you can use a NFC tag, RFID tag or Miifare card for!
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In Android
Unlocking your device
Prior to Android 5.0.0
By default in android, NFC is turned off when your screen is off or the device is locked, to enable a NFC implant to unlock a stock lock screen their is a Xposed Module called "NFC LockScreenOffEnabler" which allows NFC polling without your device being unlocked or if you so desire your screen being on as well. This module also includes the ability to select tags that can unlock your device.
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5.0.0 +
With Androids new smart unlock you can set your device to unlock with nfc without the need for root and Xposed, to set this up all you need to do is navigate to:
Settings > Security > Smart Lock > Trusted Devices
Then simply tap the + icon, select NFC and scan your implant.
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with either method once you have done this all you need to do is to do is to scan your tag whenever you are at your lockscreen and your device should unlock for you
Sharing links and contact details
This is possibly the most simple use for an NFC tag and can be achieved through most nfc apps, I favour PLAY STORE: NFC Tools.
once the app has been installed, open it and select the "write" tab, select "add record" and then either URL or contact depending on your needs.
URL:
after selecting URL from the add record screen all you need to do is to select your URL scheme from the drop down menu the will usually be either HTTP:// or HTTPS:// and then enter the remainder of the url in the text box to its right.
I usually use a URL shortener such as goo.gl as the implants have limited storage capacity.
Select ok and the on the following screen select "write" and scan your implant. Done!
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Contact details:
after selecting contact from the add record screen you will see a simple self explanatory form including: name, company, phone number, email and website. after entering all or some of this information, select ok and the on the following screen select "write" and scan your implant. Done!
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Once these have written, scanning your implant with any nfc enabled phone should either open the URL or add the contact details to the devices contacts
Sharing Social Media App Links
You want someone to be able to scan your implant and their Twitter or Facebook app open to your profile? If you were to set it up so that upon scanning the app was opened straight away this could cause issues if they did not have said app, they would be instead directed to the play store and the link would be lost unless they installed and re-scanned your implant. However Android allows an excellent way around this.
Start by navigating to the "Write" tab in NFC Tools as above in the "Sharing Links" section
Select "Add Record" followed by "Social Networks"
Select the network of your choice and in the next screen enter the username associated with the profile you wish to open
Hit "write" and and scan your tag
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Now when some one scans your tag instead of opening the link in either the app or their browser it should instead give them the choice to open it with any applicable applications
Opening mifare card controlled doors at work and uni etc
simply put the only way to do this is to speak to your IT department, if they are ok with it they will scan your tag with a reader and add you to the system. mine were more than happy to accommodate and the entire process took less than 2 minutes. not including the time it took to answer all the usual questions "why, how and what?". you should immediately be able to start using it.
PSA: It is highly advised that you check with your IT department first as to the type of Mifare they use, NFC implants use Mifare Ultralight which may not be compatible with your system. Also any other method of using your implant to open doors etc may violate your companies security policy, please be smart and only do this through your IT department.
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The two apps I use for day to day use of my tag are: PLAY STORE: NFC Tools and PLAY STORE: Dangerous NFC
NFC Tools comes with loads of features, not just useful for implants but for all NFC tags making it simple to read and write to your tag a wide variety of records, simply select the type of record you would like e.g. URL and it brings you up a wizard to complete your record.
Dangerous NFC however ensures your implant cannot be locked permanently and allows you to set a 32 bit password to stop others unlocking your tag
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Where can I get one?
The implant I have is a NTAG216 from Dangerous things and can be bought here and will set you back £60 GBP, $100 USD or 80 Euros. These come in a sterile injector assembly and also come with a bottle of chloraprep skin prep, sterile surgical gloves, bandages a gauze pads. Most piercing studios however should already have these things.
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Getting it implanted
Dangerous Things offer a map of piercers that are competent in the implantation which can be found here and also offer training manuals and videos on the implantation procedure for piercers who have not done it before. as well as a guide for approaching a piercer new to implants, the following is an excerpt from that guide
Print out, in color if possible, the two pro guides from http://dangerousthings.com/pro-guide, specifically the Introduction to Implantable Transponders for Professionals, and the Professional Guide to 2x12mm Transponder Installation documents.
Call local piercers in your area to schedule an appointment to simply come in and talk about a specific piercing you want. Do not talk about the implant or go into detail on the phone, just say you’d like to talk to them before you decide to get a piercing. They should be happy to have you come in and chat.
Go to the shop with the printed documents. Bring the product with you, but do not expect to get it implanted that day. The best you can expect would be to hand over the documents for the piercer to review at a later time, and have a short discussion about what it is you want implanted and why. If you’re lucky, the piercer will be ok with it and you’ll get an implant done that day.
Plan to visit multiple shops until you find one willing to perform the procedure.
If we can help in any way, let the piercer know we’re available for free phone consulting and advanced Q&A, just contact us via the website and we’ll call them.
When you get a piercer to perform the install, please let us know who by sending us an email, submit our contact form, or ping us on Facebook. We’d love to get their information so we can upgrade them to a full partner and list them on our partner map!
I can't fault this advice in the slightest however I would add that a piercer who is familiar with micro-dermals as implantation
The procedure itself doesn't take more than a minute and simply involves injecting the implant under the skin
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For now that's all, if there is anything you think I should add or have any questions feel free to ask
*UPDATE*
See the video in the first post to hear my full implant story
I'll lead by example and share my story first, after seeing an article on Biohacking about a year ago I took an interest and started looking for ways to add tech to myself in a more sterile/surgical way than I had seen many people do.
I found a company who sold NFC NTAG216 tags encased in bioglass about the size of grains of rice and preloaded into a syringe like injector assembly, so after months of pondering I contacted my local piercing shop (very good/clean) and proposed the idea to one of the guys, he loved the idea and agreed to do the implantation after reading the training manuals etc.
a week later my parcel arrived from across the pond, all very sterile and included loads of extras like gauze, plasters and Chloraprep.
heading back down to the piercing studio, he took a look at the injector and we spoke about it for about 45 min whilst he marked up placement in my left hand and then he did it, I was expecting a massive amount of pain but it actually only hurt about as much as an injection and a minute later it was done leaving only a red dot behind to show something has ever actually broken the skin.
I now use mine to unlock my Note 2 after installing an Xposed module that allows you to detect nfc whilst locked another great use is to send people links without having to involve email or social media etc, just copy it to my hand and pick up their phone and it opens
Where could I get one done at, and what kind of things do I need to know before I get one?
Where could I get one done at, and what kind of things do I need to know before I get one?
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I have now changed the first post to a guide, I hope it is helpful if you have any questions feel free to ask
NFC payments
Hi, does anyone know whether the NFC LockScreenOffEnabler affects NFC payments in some way? I have Note II with Android 4.4.2, if it can help.
BenDarevan said:
Hi, does anyone know whether the NFC LockScreenOffEnabler affects NFC payments in some way? I have Note II with Android 4.4.2, if it can help.
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No it does not affect payments in any way
Today is one week since I got mine put in. It's going fine, I didn't lift weights this week or even play much guitar (killing me).
However, mine migrated a bit. I rewatched the video after the piercer put it in, and realized he inserted the needle a little far back to begin with. Shame on me for not rewatching it right before I went in to get it done. He watched the video, read the manuals (according to him) but he also kinda had an "all-knowing, I know what's best, I've been doing piercings for 20 years" personality.
So mine has migrated towards the back. One end is kinda close to that trapezoid bone and near my thumb bone. It's still within the fleshy part and I haven't had any pain. I'm thinking it will be fine, because even if it was close it's still sitting ABOVE the bones and shouldn't interfere with anything, right?
I guess it could always be removed if it ever caused issues. Trying not to be a hypochondriac, you know? I think it's fine. How was placement on yours?
I'm trying to figure out a door lock right now. I can't replace anything at my apartment complex, so the Samsung Ezons are out of the question. I don't like them anyways, aesthetically. I want the outside of my door to look stock. The options that mount onto existing deadbolts from the inside are all BLE and WiFi. I wish there was a Z-Wave (if you know what that is) NFC/RFID reader. With that set up you could read the tag and send a command to a lock that's Z-Wave compatible as well which would unlock the door.
What're you doing with yours? Since I installed this I'm committed to the technology now lol.
Door lock
dimex said:
I'm trying to figure out a door lock right now. I can't replace anything at my apartment complex, so the Samsung Ezons are out of the question. I don't like them anyways, aesthetically. I want the outside of my door to look stock. The options that mount onto existing deadbolts from the inside are all BLE and WiFi. I wish there was a Z-Wave (if you know what that is) NFC/RFID reader. With that set up you could read the tag and send a command to a lock that's Z-Wave compatible as well which would unlock the door.
What're you doing with yours? Since I installed this I'm committed to the technology now lol.
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I just got the xNT implanted two weeks ago, awesome little piece of future. Talked a med student buddy of mine into doing it.
Tried to embed my video here, but I can't since this is my first post.
I've decided to ditch the Samsung and go with an Arduino DIY lock using the RC522 as the actual reader. So far I only have a "electric door strike" type of lock, but I think I'm gonna find some kind of electric deadbolt on ebay.
If anyone has an alternative to the RC522 reader that is more compatible with the cylindrical form factor of the tag, please let me know :fingers-crossed:
Banxy said:
I just got the xNT implanted two weeks ago, awesome little piece of future. Talked a med student buddy of mine into doing it.
Tried to embed my video here, but I can't since this is my first post.
I've decided to ditch the Samsung and go with an Arduino DIY lock using the RC522 as the actual reader. So far I only have a "electric door strike" type of lock, but I think I'm gonna find some kind of electric deadbolt on ebay.
If anyone has an alternative to the RC522 reader that is more compatible with the cylindrical form factor of the tag, please let me know :fingers-crossed:
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How has yours healed? Any migration? Mine moved a bit and is further back than I'd like, but it's still within the webbing and don't think it'll cause any issues.
That little arduino reader looks sweet. I've never got into coding anything like that. I know I could figure it out but would honestly prefer to just buy something. Either way, could you keep me updated?
You running NFC LocksreenOffEnabler? It works sweet with my N5. Paired with the Knock Code module with lines and taps hidden, the lock screen is completely blank. Pretty nifty, anyone who would pick this up would have absolutely no clue how to unlock it.
dimex said:
How has yours healed? Any migration? Mine moved a bit and is further back than I'd like, but it's still within the webbing and don't think it'll cause any issues.
That little arduino reader looks sweet. I've never got into coding anything like that. I know I could figure it out but would honestly prefer to just buy something. Either way, could you keep me updated?
You running NFC LocksreenOffEnabler? It works sweet with my N5. Paired with the Knock Code module with lines and taps hidden, the lock screen is completely blank. Pretty nifty, anyone who would pick this up would have absolutely no clue how to unlock it.
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Yes, more or less completely healed after 13 days. Mine has. not. moved. at. all. I'm a bit surprised actually. The guy who did it, did a good job pushing the needle past the final resting place, then pulling back a bit before injecting. This made a nice pocket for the tag to rest in.
Arduino is pretty easy, I had no prior coding experience. You can get finished or almost finished scripts for all kinds of ****. I'll post when its done
Not using my tag with my N5 (yet). I have a ballistic case, which is pretty thick. I can still read it quite consistently but it's not ideal imo. Damn son, blank lockscreen is frisky
dimex said:
How has yours healed? Any migration? Mine moved a bit and is further back than I'd like, but it's still within the webbing and don't think it'll cause any issues.
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Here is a real basic diagram of where mine sits after several months if it's of any help. Black=bone, red = implant
dimex said:
You running NFC LocksreenOffEnabler? It works sweet with my N5. Paired with the Knock Code module with lines and taps hidden, the lock screen is completely blank. Pretty nifty, anyone who would pick this up would have absolutely no clue how to unlock it.
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That sounds pretty sweet. What are you using for the knock code? I presume it isn't a stock lockscreen for n5
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What're you doing with yours? Since I installed this I'm committed to the technology now lol.
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I really only use mine for a few things:
Unlock my phone,
Send links to people quickly,
Unlock doors and pay etc at uni
And party tricks "you know I can link with your phone using just my mind right?"
mbloomer04 said:
Here is a real basic diagram of where mine sits after several months if it's of any help. Black=bone, red = implant
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Mine ended up spot on to yours. Was originally concerned it was encroaching on the bones but no problems here.
Banxy said:
Arduino is pretty easy, I had no prior coding experience. You can get finished or almost finished scripts for all kinds of ****. I'll post when its done
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Please update so I can let you do all the hard work and then copy your ass
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That sounds pretty sweet. What are you using for the knock code? I presume it isn't a stock lockscreen for n5
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Grab Knock Code Xposed module. All it does is change the stock pattern security to four knock boxes like the G3, so set a pattern before enabling it. I like this setup because it's still stock. I don't like aftermarket lock screens, they always feel cheap to me.
At first it'll have 4 sectioned off boxes that flash when you knock them. Hide the grid and the flashing and it's completely invisible to anyone, but you knock it like normal. Long press any box to reset the pattern if you **** up entering it.
This is the slickest setup I've used. Attached is a photo of my lock screen and a photo of the message it gives you after long pressing.
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Send links to people quickly
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Do you have any info permanently written to your tag? I had to freeze Tags.apk so I didn't get the empty tag message pop up after every unlock, only thing is disabling that affects the the NFC sounds. Wish there was a way to keep vCard info on the tag without it triggering every time on unlock.
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Mine ended up spot on to yours. Was originally concerned it was encroaching on the bones but no problems here.
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Ahh I think that's about right, I've never had any issues with this placement.
dimex said:
Grab Knock Code Xposed module. All it does is change the stock pattern security to four knock boxes like the G3, so set a pattern before enabling it. I like this setup because it's still stock. I don't like aftermarket lock screens, they always feel cheap to me.
At first it'll have 4 sectioned off boxes that flash when you knock them. Hide the grid and the flashing and it's completely invisible to anyone, but you knock it like normal. Long press any box to reset the pattern if you **** up entering it.
This is the slickest setup I've used. Attached is a photo of my lock screen and a photo of the message it gives you after long pressing.
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Cheers, I'll take a look at this
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Do you have any info permanently written to your tag? I had to freeze Tags.apk so I didn't get the empty tag message pop up after every unlock, only thing is disabling that affects the the NFC sounds. Wish there was a way to keep vCard info on the tag without it triggering every time on unlock.
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NFC LocksreenOffEnabler has the ability to stop the sounds
I have "bad://access/development" permanently written to mine as I use locale with Tasker and this means you don't get the pop up when you scan it.
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NFC LocksreenOffEnabler has the ability to stop the sounds
I have "bad://access/development" permanently written to mine as I use locale with Tasker and this means you don't get the pop up when you scan it.
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Freezing Tags.apk in TiBu gets rid of NFC sounds, regardless of the settings in NFC LSOE, weird bug I guess.
I was referring to something else written to the tag, like a vCard or Tasker task, or url. If you have that line written and something else written following it, it'll still launch the second thing, ya?
I wish there was a way to unlock the phone and not have the other info be scanned until scanning the tag again with the phone unlocked.
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I was referring to something else written to the tag, like a vCard or Tasker task, or url. If you have that line written and something else written following it, it'll still launch the second thing, ya?
I wish there was a way to unlock the phone and not have the other info be scanned until scanning the tag again with the phone unlocked.
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Not in this case the bad://access/development command means your tag will only work with locale and Tasker. So anything else written to it would not do anything
Your best bet for this feature would be to drop a message on the support thread for NFC LocksreenOffEnabler. I bet it could be an added feature or another solution could be found easily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478163
I'll drop a question there myself
I asked for you, I'll post here if I get a reply
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I asked for you, I'll post here if I get a reply
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Ya, thanks. I was subscribed to that thread anyways. Someone did ask a similar question before I think, but it never got answered. I may ask too, the more the merrier.
Have you checked aliexpress? There are electronic deadbolts on there. However, I was thinking about all this recently, and I really think the best and most versatile solution for our implants would be Z-wave.
Don't know if you're familiar with it, but Z-Wave is a home automation protocol. Right now, this (https://benext.eu/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44) is the only RFID reader that's Z-Wave compatible, and it's ugly as ****.
You can make a little Rasberry Pi Z-Wave compatible with the RaZberry module. I don't know how to work with any of that stuff. If we were able to make a Z-Wave compatible RFID/NFC card reader, that would open us up to just about anything imaginable. That way, you could set up a reader built into the wall outside that would trigger a Z-Wave deadbolt to open the door, stick another reader by your light to turn on/off lights, one for the coffee maker, etc, etc, etc.
This seems so much better than making a dedicated system for every single thing you want the tag to work with.
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You can make a little Rasberry Pi Z-Wave compatible with the RaZberry module. I don't know how to work with any of that stuff. If we were able to make a Z-Wave compatible RFID/NFC card reader, that would open us up to just about anything imaginable. That way, you could set up a reader built into the wall outside that would trigger a Z-Wave deadbolt to open the door, stick another reader by your light to turn on/off lights, one for the coffee maker, etc, etc, etc.
This seems so much better than making a dedicated system for every single thing you want the tag to work with.
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I don't follow, why would I want a reader next to my light switch so I could turn my lights on etc. Surely I could just use the switch. Etc I don't see an advantage to these things apart from the deadbolt
Related
http://www.windowsphone7series.com/...eral-discussion_little-information-copy-paste
We started building the new Windows Phone 7 Series around two big but simple ideas: Your phone should understand what you care about most - and your phone should enable you to do the things you want in fewer steps.
That's why Windows Phone 7 Series will not initially offer copy and paste. We looked at some of the most common uses for copy and paste, and simplified them with a single-tap action.
Say you're looking at an appointment in your calendar. You need to know when the meeting starts - but you also need to know where to go. In the past you would have to copy the address, open a mapping application or site, paste from the clipboard and then click a button to get a result. With Windows Phone 7 Series, you just click on that address and jump straight to a map.
If you're surfing the Web and you come across a piece of information you'd like to know more about, you don't have to exit your browser and go into a search application. Just highlight the word and click the search key. The new search results are now available at your fingertips.
And of course, Windows Phone 7 Series also supports clickable phone numbers in emails, in browser, and in search results.
In our early testing people have been pleased with this approach - but we're always listening to feedback, and we will continue to improve our feature set over time based on what we hear.
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M$ just want to do some stuff to replace copy/paste ,not cut it
But it's not an either/or type thing. MS could have done both, if they'd wanted to.
I also don't like being forced to use bing! to search for whatever I highlight in the browser(without having to type it out on whatever search engine I may wanna use instead). I seriously dislike the tight control MS apparently built into the system. And I actually loved WP7s before MIX10, now I'm having second thoughts...
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So what if I receive an email containing some information I want to place into a Note?
If I can't copy the info from the email, go into the Notes app and paste it into a new or existing note, then what do I do? Write it all down on a piece of paper and then re-type it into the note?
If someone emails me their address, I won't be able to paste that into their contact details?
This just beggars belief! I use C&P all the time, and not for the limited uses Microsoft have come up with!
I do not keep old emails for the information they contain - I rip the info out of the email, put it where it SHOULD be on my phone (maybe in a contact, a new event, a note, a task, whatever) and then bin the email. Without C&P this will be IMPOSSIBLE!!!
The usage scenarios given in the OP are not replacements for Copy & Paste, they are LINKS from a piece of info to another function. Copy & Paste is all about MOVING or COPYING information from one object to another. This will ALWAYS be needed by anyone using the phone for any kind of data. Not being able to copy data around between Word and Excel is just a complete FAIL.
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If someone emails me their address, I won't be able to paste that into their contact details?
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my understanding is that u would be able to copy a address or number into a contact and into bing (address), a bit like its a hyperlink that opens up a option menu that lets u send it to pre-defined locations.
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my understanding is that u would be able to copy a address or number into a contact and into bing (address), a bit like its a hyperlink that opens up a option menu that lets u send it to pre-defined locations.
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I don't see how it would recognize an address. Phone number, yes, I can see that, but an address?
For instance, if I receive the following email;
"Hi, yeah the address is The Willows, London Road, Trowbridge, Kent cheers mate - John"
How in heck will WP7S know there's an address in there?
Not only that, you just said it'll be able to "copy a address into a contact" - I've no idea where you got that from but Microsoft have clearly indicated there WILL BE NO COPY function. So even if it did recognise the address through some miracle of place recognition, the best you could hope for is that it would show you a map, so you would have to keep the email on your phone for ever more and remember that the address is in that particular message. Frankly it's completely unworkable.
As far as I can tell, the only way WP7S will be able to spot an address is if it is in AN ADDRESS FIELD in a contact or a calendar entry.
Mark my words, in less than 2 firmwareupdates the copypaste function is back. Why go to iPhone OS 1.0 and lose all advantage of not being the first one to develop such an interface?
Imho, this is just plain-stupid.
If Microsoft are so worried about all the dumb users, then ship the phone with cut & paste switched off, and add an option to turn it on in the Settings, so the smart users can use it if they choose to. It's not Rocket Science. When you're designing software and you're faced with an arbitrary decision about a feature, always just make it optional.
Silverdragondk said:
But it's not an either/or type thing. MS could have done both, if they'd wanted to.
I also don't like being forced to use bing! to search for whatever I highlight in the browser(without having to type it out on whatever search engine I may wanna use instead). I seriously dislike the tight control MS apparently built into the system. And I actually loved WP7s before MIX10, now I'm having second thoughts...
Regards
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even though in the end you may finally end up using Bing, but you need a choice...right.?
Jim Coleman said:
So what if I receive an email containing some information I want to place into a Note?
If I can't copy the info from the email, go into the Notes app and paste it into a new or existing note, then what do I do? Write it all down on a piece of paper and then re-type it into the note?
If someone emails me their address, I won't be able to paste that into their contact details?
This just beggars belief! I use C&P all the time, and not for the limited uses Microsoft have come up with!
I do not keep old emails for the information they contain - I rip the info out of the email, put it where it SHOULD be on my phone (maybe in a contact, a new event, a note, a task, whatever) and then bin the email. Without C&P this will be IMPOSSIBLE!!!
The usage scenarios given in the OP are not replacements for Copy & Paste, they are LINKS from a piece of info to another function. Copy & Paste is all about MOVING or COPYING information from one object to another. This will ALWAYS be needed by anyone using the phone for any kind of data. Not being able to copy data around between Word and Excel is just a complete FAIL.
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Note the underlined words....that is exactly where M$ is trying to go.
Find the most obvious use of the information that is highlighted and do it for you.
Ganondolf said:
my understanding is that u would be able to copy a address or number into a contact and into bing (address), a bit like its a hyperlink that opens up a option menu that lets u send it to pre-defined locations.
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you know what? HTC messaging does that even now.
When you click on a text message, it pops up a list of options that you would like to do....
Better yet, what about addresses for folks who live in other places in the world where the address might not be recognizable in english. for instance
-> 72 dr ea cooray mawatha, wellawatte. thats a legitimate address in sri lanka.
I think they will have complete text message copy and paste, and not selective copy and paste to get around apple's patent.
this is assuming people want to be robbed of their $ by paying and subscribing to a data plan. i do NOT plan to do that. i'm gonna just buy the phone and use wifi.
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even though in the end you may finally end up using Bing, but you need a choice...right.?
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He he, I've been writing a couple answers to this question, and I've ended up deleting them every single time, because I'm having difficulty saying what I wanna say...
Generally speaking, yes it's about choice. No one likes being forced to do things in a certain way? Especially if they feel there's a better way?
With regards to Bing! being the only way to search in a copy/paste type of way, that bugs me. I don't mind if Bing! is the only integrated search engine, or if only Bing! is allowed to use the Bing!/search button. but please allow me the freedom to choose if I wanna use Bing! or not. Without copy/paste there is effectively no choice. It smells of MS wanting to grow Bing! by forcing people to use it. I don't like that. I don't like that one teeny tiny little bit.
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He he, I've been writing a couple answers to this question, and I've ended up deleting them every single time, because I'm having difficulty saying what I wanna say...
Generally speaking, yes it's about choice. No one likes being forced to do things in a certain way? Especially if they feel there's a better way?
With regards to Bing! being the only way to search in a copy/paste type of way, that bugs me. I don't mind if Bing! is the only integrated search engine, or if only Bing! is allowed to use the Bing!/search button. but please allow me the freedom to choose if I wanna use Bing! or not. Without copy/paste there is effectively no choice. It smells of MS wanting to grow Bing! by forcing people to use it. I don't like that. I don't like that one teeny tiny little bit.
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I totally understand your position....I am like that too.
"Especially if they feel there's a better way" -> I will rephrase it this way
"Especially if they feel there might be a better way"
but the fact that bing would integrate itself, might in the end make it to the choice
While I am enjoying many things about Windows Phone 7 like the look, feel, general speed and the type of APPS that are appearing I am more than a little annoyed at just how dumb they have made it....
The options to tweak things are just so minimal its almost a joke. I am not speaking as a Power User and I think this OS should not be dumber than an Iphone. As it stands I will probably still need to carry a work and person phone as this will not do both.
Maybe everyone list sensible features that are missing from WP7 that we can collate and send to Microsoft as things that need to be fixed really soon.
Obviously if the non features listed are already available please says so...
1. Copy and Paste (coming soon)
2. Fast App Switching (probably coming soon)
3. First two lines of Text Messages show on notification bar even when screen is locked - BIG PRIVACY ISSUE!!!
4. Cannot Search Company Directory after setting up an Exchange Account (even Iphone can do this)
5. Outlook does not allow you to display email by NAME or SIZE and it does not appear you can create a SIGNATURE...
ebzrascal said:
While I am enjoying many things about Windows Phone 7 like the look, feel, general speed and the type of APPS that are appearing I am more than a little annoyed at just how dumb they have made it....
The options to tweak things are just so minimal its almost a joke. I am not speaking as a Power User and I think this OS should not be dumber than an Iphone. As it stands I will probably still need to carry a work and person phone as this will not do both.
Maybe everyone list sensible features that are missing from WP7 that we can collate and send to Microsoft as things that need to be fixed really soon.
Obviously if the non features listed are already available please says so...
1. Copy and Paste (coming soon)
2. Fast App Switching (probably coming soon)
3. First two lines of Text Messages show on notification bar even when screen is locked - BIG PRIVACY ISSUE!!!
4. Cannot Search Company Directory after setting up an Exchange Account (even Iphone can do this)
5. Outlook does not allow you to display email by NAME or SIZE and it does not appear you can create a SIGNATURE...
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1. It's coming.
2. Coming as well.
3. That's only as soon as you get the message, it goes away after about a minute and you just have the 1. notificaition down the bottom.
4. No idea about exchange
5. Go to your email, go to settings then tick use an email signature and change it from 'Sent from my Windows Phone'
As stated above... most of those features are coming and so hopefully by Jan 2010 we will see much improvement in the OS feature department.
1. Copy and Paste (coming soon)
2. Fast App Switching (probably coming soon)
3. First two lines of Text Messages show on notification bar even when screen is locked - BIG PRIVACY ISSUE!!!
4. Cannot Search Company Directory after setting up an Exchange Account (even Iphone can do this)
5. Outlook does not allow you to display email by NAME or SIZE and it does not appear you can create a SIGNATURE...
1. It's coming.
2. Coming as well.
3. That's only as soon as you get the message, it goes away after about a minute and you just have the 1. notificaition down the bottom.
4. No idea about exchange
5. Go to your email, go to settings then tick use an email signature and change it from 'Sent from my Windows Phone'
5. Agreed - Signature can be changed..........
6. Phone APP should be linked to contacts like in WM6.5 so when you start to type a number it the names that match start to appear..
Hopefully, by your hopefully, you meant "JAN 2011"
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Hopefully, by your hopefully, you meant "JAN 2011"
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Yeah... my bad
7. Mainly HTC - We need a weather app with Active tile that will show location and weather and when you click it full blown HTC stuff
8. HTC Hubb needs to be updated to have active tile with big HTC clock rather then lady with glasses, in side there should be similar interface as stock HTC.
9. Task manager as some apps still stay open
10. A Wifi/Bluetooth/flightmode on/off widget that can be added to tiles
11. User made folders in apps screen as list gets way to long
12. Bluetooth picture and documents transfer
13. Active twitter tile so it can downloads tweats and let you know if there are new
14. Active messenger tile for obvious reason
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Every phone I owned showed the last message content shortly after reception.
My Sony and Sony Ericsson dumb phones, my iPhone, both my Magic and Nexus. And now my future Trophy will.
I'm not sure what the issue is.
3. First two lines of Text Messages show on notification bar even when screen is locked - BIG PRIVACY ISSUE!!!
Every phone I owned showed the last message content shortly after reception.
My Sony and Sony Ericsson dumb phones, my iPhone, both my Magic and Nexus. And now my future Trophy will.
I'm not sure what the issue is.
Its an issue for me....
My PERSONAL message can be viewed by other people sitting next to me for example!! So if I get a HOT TEXT from my wife or DIRTY JOKE from a mate.... its flashed up for a few seconds and is potentially embarrassing...
Windows Mobile 6.5 allowed you to switch this OFF and the dumb Nokia phones I use just notify you that you have a message which more sensible.
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6. Phone APP should be linked to contacts like in WM6.5 so when you start to type a number it the names that match start to appear..
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I definitely agree! It NEEDS a smart dialer!
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I definitely agree! It NEEDS a smart dialer!
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I'll third that.
I agree on the Weather App for HTC so that we can have it as a tile. And the Wifi/Airplane mode tile/shortcut on the desktop.
They also need to improve Bing Navigation. Or how about just allowing Google Search and Navigation onto the phone? hehehe... obviously that won't happen, but one can dream.
And please stop treating us like idiots. I actually rather like to be able to configure things and hate when I get patronized by companies that think that I cannot cope with too many buttons. hohum...
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I agree on the Weather App for HTC so that we can have it as a tile. And the Wifi/Airplane mode tile/shortcut on the desktop.
They also need to improve Bing Navigation. Or how about just allowing Google Search and Navigation onto the phone? hehehe... obviously that won't happen, but one can dream.
And please stop treating us like idiots. I actually rather like to be able to configure things and hate when I get patronized by companies that think that I cannot cope with too many buttons. hohum...
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Come on atleast we now have camera button.
ebzrascal said:
Its an issue for me....
My PERSONAL message can be viewed by other people sitting next to me for example!! So if I get a HOT TEXT from my wife or DIRTY JOKE from a mate.... its flashed up for a few seconds and is potentially embarrassing...
Windows Mobile 6.5 allowed you to switch this OFF and the dumb Nokia phones I use just notify you that you have a message which more sensible.
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So, you're one of the people that always need to put their phone into view of every one, instead of your pocket, just to show off or what?
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Its an issue for me....
My PERSONAL message can be viewed by other people sitting next to me for example!! So if I get a HOT TEXT from my wife or DIRTY JOKE from a mate.... its flashed up for a few seconds and is potentially embarrassing...
Windows Mobile 6.5 allowed you to switch this OFF and the dumb Nokia phones I use just notify you that you have a message which more sensible.
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Dude, I have to say my girlfriends iPhone does this, my X1i does this (both when it was 6.1 and now 6.5) , the guy who sits behind me at work with a Desire does it. The notification usually disappears fairly quickly.
I sort of sympathise where your are coming from but, if someone at your office goes to read your notification on your phone if it is on your desk, your issue is with your colleague and you need to slap them upside their head and tell them to behave.....and to be honest, you'll probably forward that dirty joke onto them anyway and most probably let them know what your wife has in store for you when you get home just to make them jealous
Dude, I have to say with those other phones you can disable the text on the lock screen. Don't know if this is possible with the iPhone though.
vetvito said:
Dude, I have to say with those other phones you can disable the text on the lock screen. Don't know if this is possible with the iPhone though.
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True, you can although I haven't and I'm waiting for the gf to get in the shower so I can play with her iPhone ... but my comment I think is still valid. Colleagues shouldn't be invading privacy.
chubnut said:
True, you can although I haven't and I'm waiting for the gf to get in the shower so I can play with her iPhone ... but my comment I think is still valid. Colleagues shouldn't be invading privacy.
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It about Microsoft limiting choice to a stupid level or not thinking things through. In this case I don`t want personal or business information that is intended for me to be seen by someone else. I don`t think people are intentionally invading space really because it might be an innocent reaction of someone`s eyes being drawn to a message flashing on the screen of my phone.
I actually need my phone to be visible to react to missed calls etc... Not to show it off as someone suggested!! I don`t want to hide my phone every-time someone walks over to my desk to discuss something with me.
Those are really valid points.
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It about Microsoft limiting choice to a stupid level or not thinking things through. In this case I don`t want personal or business information that is intended for me to be seen by someone else. I don`t think people are intentionally invading space really because it might be an innocent reaction of someone`s eyes being drawn to a message flashing on the screen of my phone.
I actually need my phone to be visible to react to missed calls etc... Not to show it off as someone suggested!! I don`t want to hide my phone every-time someone walks over to my desk to discuss something with me.
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Look - I'm not disagreeing with you about the fact that they should give us all the relevant options. I love to tinker and tinker with everything and I want the same options as you. My phone also sits on my desk in a desk stand in plain view so I can do just as you do. I have people constantly coming to my desk. If the phone goes off, it goes off but I continue dealing with the matter at hand and fix their attention to me not my phone - or they get a slap .
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/01/25/forthcoming-windows-phone-update-the-bits-that-are-real/
This just in.
I don't see a major problem but here's the news for you!
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
Well, you are reading it wrong. The stuff is about third party applications. It doesn't say anything about native apps, so we don't know how it will function and where.
As regards third party apps, there's nothing wrong with using a control designed for text, for, er, displaying text. That's the way it should be. Not everything should be selectable, and it isn't selectable in all OSes including "big" Windows.
MartyLK said:
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
I read from the article that in 3rd party apps you'll be able to c&p only text from text boxes. So you can't copy twitter tweet right from the timeline.
So apparently you'll be able to c&p whatever you want from text boxes,
Plus probably other displayed content from native apps.
So I think not a huge problem here.
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
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Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
MartyLK said:
Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
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I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
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I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
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Cool. Appreciate the update.
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I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
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Anywhere you can select text, like you can in the browser, should work. Text messages (unless they change it) you would have to go through the motions of choosing Forward from the longpress menu then select the text from the text box; a bit long-winded but doable.
If Microsoft can add the function I would imagine DEVs could also make use of it in their apps. I could be wrong.
Yeah, they're talking about how devs can modify their text fields to utilize the C&P feature when they update their apps.
Hope they actually do this...
Thanks for the post. Been waiting for this.
This, while exactly what I expected after hearing what Mr. Kindel had to say, is a downer. Now, I don't use cut'n'paste that often on phones, but when I do it's almost exclusively from non-edit controls.
I would also have expected a way to copy'n'paste images considering they see Office as such a big thing, and TBH I quite often paste product images into OneNote on the computer - which syncs perfectly to the phone. Of course you're unable to edit the photo note on the phone, but just being able to cut'n'paste them would be great still.
TBQH this looks more like a half-assed implementation done quickly to get an update out the door.
If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
foxbat121 said:
...Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
Casey_boy said:
Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
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I must say the virtual cursor on WP7 is pretty nicely implemented.
Android sucks compared to this and is a pain sometimes.
I guess you guys haven't tried 2.3 or any new samsung devices. Copy and paste, and the cursor is very finger friendly.
I have used cursor on Android 2.2. It is much better than 2.1 but still copy-n-paste largely dependent on app's implementation.
Capacity touch screens are inheritally inaccurate. Cursors make it less painful to use but can't eliminate that inaccuracy. You just got a tool to let you fine tune your selection. It still takes multiple tries to accomplish the job. And god forbid, if you want to select a paragrah out (multiple lines) of an email, that cursor won't be much help to you.
foxbat121 said:
If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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You already could select and hold and image to save it, then go to One Note and insert it.
I remember holding the.control button on WM devices and selecting/copying multiple items. Those were the days.
I've been with Sprint for almost 9 years now, and before my Evo 4G in 2010 all I had were the old Nextel i95's...so needless to say I'm at a complete loss with WP7. I tinkered and tailored with Android ROM's for years now and have loved a lot about the OS...but I just couldn't pass up this deal for the Lumia 900 on AT&T. I'm beyond satisfied after having set everything up and loving how tightly knit and integrated a lot of the features are. But I still have some questions:
1) Can i screen capture with the stock rom? I don't want to have to unlock this phone (That was one of the reasons I left Android, you needed to unlock to do ANYTHING)
2) Are there any apps beyond the 3 that use a double tile? Is this a setting somewhere that I'm missing on? Kinda like resizing widgets?
3) Are there different themes, beyond the color switching pallete, that can be used with WP7? And while we're at it, is there a different lockscreen or anything else that can be done from it besides unlocking it? (Such as unlocking to text, email, custom app?)
4) What's up with the notifications disappearing after a while before I get a chance to check em? Is there a way to check them besides going to their respective clients to see what I missed?
5) Can you guys point me towards some alternative apps or settings to replace some of the stock feaures?
6) Besides having to login to AT&T all the time, is there a different way to monitor my data usage? A simple app perhaps?
7) Oh and how could I forget....do I have to go all the way to the settings every time to see what the percentage on my battery is? I found a couple threads saying that you have to unlock the phone for this feature but I refuse to believe that something this simple needs a workaround like that.
Thanks in advance guys, loving this OS and looking forward to some of the changes.
1) Unfortunately not. Most screen captures you see on the net are done using the development software.
2) Tiles sizes are determined by the developers. I wish there was a way of making them single or double too.
3) The colours are the only customisation you can do right now without unlocking the device other than changing the lock screen. The lockscreen I like, as it unlocks to the "desktop" when there is no notifications but if you unlock it as a notification happens then it will take you the application required to see the notification.
Also for some awesome lock screens go to the deviantart website.
4) This is my one and only gripe with WP7. Having said that after unlocking the notication is either facebook or twitter (the only ones not shown on the home screen) and both of those show on my "ME" tile. So really if I want to see anything I missed I go to the "ME" tile and slide across to notifications.
5) What stock features do you need help with?
6) Im not on AT&T and my phone provider has an app to do this so I would be contacting AT&T about this.
7) They do not show a % because its not very accurate I think. This is something I at first hated but I don't care that much any more. This is not like my Samsung Galaxy II which wouldn't last a day. I usually get over a days use out of my Lumia so I don't have to look all the time and be worried. When the love heart goes on the battery I know its getting low but still I have HOURS left.
In terms of number 5 I just meant is there an alternate keyboard, browser, gallery, search feature/marketplace etc. Not that I have a problem with any of these (although I do miss haptic feedback on my keyboard) I just wanted to know if there were alternatives.
EDIT: I do have a problem with ONE of those things I mentioned. The marketplace...it seems too cluttered and feels like the phone is always zoomed in with the way everything looks...but that looks like it was done on purpose.
You.can get two off your list with a Developer unlocked device. Think of it this way. Nokia is giving you a $100 credit because of the data issue. Use it to purchase a legitimate Dev key from Microsoft. Can sideload apps, and also develop with it.
1) can do it with homebrew Screen Capturer app.
2) Only Microsoft or OEMs can develop double wide tiles.
3) Need to have an interop unlocked device to add colors, etc. More involved than dev unlocked and not yet available for the L900.
6) The AT&T myAT&T app will give you the info you need. Nokia is also releasing a data tracking app. Coming soon.
7) Homebrew Battery Meter app. Updates a Live Tile every 10 minutes. Pretty accurate. Good history charts.
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There are a few other browsers and such but they are all just front ends for the existing apps supplied with the device. There is also a few marketplace apps which you might find better. I use AppTastic every now and then purely as it shows what's on sale. There might be an app which I don't think is worth $5 or $6 after the trial but would happily purchase to support the developers for a few bucks.
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In terms of number 5 I just meant is there an alternate keyboard, browser, gallery, search feature/marketplace etc. Not that I have a problem with any of these (although I do miss haptic feedback on my keyboard) I just wanted to know if there were alternatives.
EDIT: I do have a problem with ONE of those things I mentioned. The marketplace...it seems too cluttered and feels like the phone is always zoomed in with the way everything looks...but that looks like it was done on purpose.
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Well, there are alot of the things that are different. Can't/Won't say if its better because thats a personal choice. I've grown to love the look and feel now. So has my daughter...but my son hates it. I gave them both 2 weeks to like it or I would buy them their next phone. My daughter converted...my son did not, and did not want new phone. But, with that said, there are some things I miss from Android....not much, but some. I do wish Live Tiles were a touch more customizable. I wish I could have some more color schemes instead of the just the current ones. I'd love to have a Black/White and/or Grey/white combination of colors also.
Otherwise....its a matter of just trying and getting used to it. I think it took my daughter 3 days to get used to the tiles and groupings of the hubs and what they are designed for. Her original list of must haves went away....
Thanks for all the help guys, yea I figured that most of my complaints/issues could only be solved with an unlock phone but I figured I'd ask. I've got another question, do apps auto update or do I need to manually check em every time?
Your marketplace tile will have a number on it showing the number of updates available. So no you never need to go check but you do need to initiate the update manually when you see that there is some waiting for update.
Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
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Dont know if someone mentioned this, but you're in the droid mentality right now. Like Apple, alot of the framework is locked down. Even with sideloads, alot of the framework is not available. HTC Hub is one of those. MS did not want that kind of screen and they don't allow it. WP is based on Live Tiles and they are sticking with it...for now.
You can change the lock screen pic by going to settings and Lock+Wallpaper. You can change the timeing settings and the picture. If you have a picture you want to use, go to your pictures hub and simply long press on the pic, use as wallpaper is an option.
But mostly, do not expect alot of hack/modding on these phones. For the most part, most of Windows phones, were Android phones at 1 time...ie the Samsung focus line. HD7 was the HD2 line which has been successfully ported to Android and WP7. If you want android type functionality in terms of look and feel...probably not gonna get it here. Of course, I could be wrong....but...who knows.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
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I don't have answers for all of these, but here's a few (and fwiw I agree
with alodar1). But before I begin, not sure if you're aware of the Marketplace online (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/marketplace) - might make searching easier as you're starting out.
1) "Settings Tile" is 1 such app (I don't use these, so I can't recommend which one to install, but I've seen this one recommended... *shrug*) http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/102014a6-156e-4604-8f1a-2a86e4edf191
2 & 3 don't know, sorry
4) TestMyNet works decent: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/a25ec139-fc33-4571-9425-cf031a3312bb
5) No, sorry (I had it and never really used it...)
6) Answered above =)
You may also want to check out 'AppFlow' (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/578ef361-c265-46b7-b6f4-63cbd7fbefe0) or some similar application recommendation app.
alodar1 said:
Dont know if someone mentioned this, but you're in the droid mentality right now. Like Apple, alot of the framework is locked down. Even with sideloads, alot of the framework is not available. HTC Hub is one of those. MS did not want that kind of screen and they don't allow it. WP is based on Live Tiles and they are sticking with it...for now.
You can change the lock screen pic by going to settings and Lock+Wallpaper. You can change the timeing settings and the picture. If you have a picture you want to use, go to your pictures hub and simply long press on the pic, use as wallpaper is an option.
But mostly, do not expect alot of hack/modding on these phones. For the most part, most of Windows phones, were Android phones at 1 time...ie the Samsung focus line. HD7 was the HD2 line which has been successfully ported to Android and WP7. If you want android type functionality in terms of look and feel...probably not gonna get it here. Of course, I could be wrong....but...who knows.
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Yea I realize I still kinda am in that mentality. It's just there's so many little things I took for granted that I never realized were there until this happened. I love this platform so far though, I have no major complaints, just small issues with it. But thanks for the tip, yea I know about the HD2 cause the first thing my brother did when he got that a couple years ago was have me put Gingerbread on it lol. I'll stick with what I've got for now tho, this is a ridiculously smooth experience and if I've gotta make some sacrifices, oh well. I still get everything done that I want throughout the day...I just wished some apps were better supported.
I have a Pebble, which doing a great job of getting Android Notifications! I just wonder if I can do the same thing with Google Glass.
There are some notification forwarder on the Market now, however, since I am already running Tasker, so I wonder if I could use
Tasker + Google's Mirror API
to achieve same thing without running any other APP on my phone, nor on my Glass, and here it is: "Glasker"
"Glasker" encapsulated Mirror API's token and authorization process into several Tasker tasks so you only need to write simple tasker "Profile" based on trigger you want then send anything to Glass!
With "Glasker", you could:
1. Forward ANY Android notification (as far as Tasker can get) to your Glass.
2. Forward Music Track info on your Phone to Glass while playing by Phone.
3. All of communications are just between your phone, Google's cloud and your Glass. Nothing go through another server.
4. You tell me!
Before we start, here are the disclaimer:
1. As Tasker is just plain text, you can see everything how those tasks works. Please review the code before proceed and once you run the tasks, I am not responsible what happened to your phone, your glass, Google's cloud or your washing machine, etc...
2. I am NOT affliated to the author of "Tasker" nor "RESTask for Tasker". Thus I am do NOT know if any of them send your message somewhere else. Don't use this project if you suspect anything.
Okay, Here are the setup steps:
0. Install a Tasker plugin "RESTask for Tasker" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freehaha.restask This is used to send REST message to Google's cloud. (Tasker's internal PUT doesn't work here...)
1. Setup your OAuth2.0 Client ID and Client secret at https://console.developers.google.com/project (If you have no idea on what I am saying here, I will try to add a walk thru in 3rd post when I got time!)
2. Turn on your Glass and make sure it connected to your phone via MyGlass app. Make sure your phone and Glass can access the network.
3. Import downloaded "Glass.prj.xml" file into Tasker
4. Open task "TimeInZulu" and modify Variable Substract: %deliverytime, xxxxx according to your time zone!
In Taiwan (GMP+0800), xxxxx=8*60*60=28800
In LA, USA (GMP-0800), please change Variable Substract-->Variable add: %deliverytime, 28800
Other time zone please modify as needed or you will not hear a chime when message delivered to your Glass!
5. Run Task "Get Authorization 1" once and input your Client ID, Client secret (Those two variables will be kept in Tasker Variables in PLAIN text since it will be used later), than your default browser will fire
6. After grant yourself with the priviledge of "Glass timeline request", than you will be directed to a web page with a code. Please copy the code.
7. Return to Tasker, than run "Get Authorization 2" (hence Google's Two-Step Authorization....), than input the code you get from last step.
8. Let the Task run a while (10~20 second), then you should see a message on Glass says "My Notification forwarder Setup Completed!" (If not, lease scroll to right of timeline to see this message. It should be the 1st message)
9. Now, go back to Tasker/Profile than setup your trigger. (My default trigger are with Line, a Whatsapp like messanger very popular in Taiwan)
10. Profit!
If you find this useful, Thanks button is just a click away! Also, if you can make this project better, please also share what you modified here!
Profile explaination:
1. GlassConnected: Master switch for all sending profiles. I disable the forwarding of message if my Glass is not connected to my phone via BT directly for apparently security reason. In theory as long as both your Phone and Glass are connected to the network, you can forward message even they are at opposite side of the world!
2. SendLineMsg: Send message from Line, a Whatsapp like app wildly used in certain parts of world (4 billion active user!). You can modify this to any other messanger!
3. SendMusicInfo: Not necessary, it's just a demo to show it can send something else.
Task explaination:
1. Get Authorization 1/2: To get authorization from Google to allow access to Mirror API.
2. Remove All TimeLine Items: Utility task. As name suggests, it removes all timeline items created (only) by Glasker. It also reset several Tasker variables should you encounter problem. (No need to re-do Get Authorization)
3. Get Time Line: Used in "Remove All TimeLine Items" to get all timeline items created by Glasker
4. GetAccessToken: Utility task. Used to get new access token from Google (since token are temporarily and expires about 360 seconds). Usually you don't need to mess with this task
5. TimeInZulu: Convert local time to Zulu time. It seems Mirror API only accepts Zulu time format. (You need to modify this task based on your timezone as above step 4 or you wil not hear reminder chime when mesasge delivered
6. SendStaticCard: This task is used to send customized content to Glass.
7. SendLineMsg: Send nofication from Line app to the Glass. I update both "Boundle Cover" as will as content
8. SendMusicInfo: Send the music track info for the music playing at stock music player on your PHONE. (This is a demo of non-chimed Card send to glass)
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This looks pretty cool. Sorry if I missed it, but does glass automatically turn on, visual, for each notification?
jewnersey said:
This looks pretty cool. Sorry if I missed it, but does glass automatically turn on, visual, for each notification?
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Yes, you can make a sound when notification push to Glass. However, the Glass will not turn on the screen. (This is explicitly mentioned by Google that such ability will not be allowed in Mirror API, only for APP running on Glass itself).
What's cool here is that when you hear the notification sound, if you turn on the Glass in about 5 second (by touchpad or head-up activation), the Glass will show the notification card directly instead of the regular card with time.
The task of "SendLineMsg" is an example to have a card with notification sound, while "SendMusicInfo" doesn't have sound.
Got any way to go the other way? From Glass to phone? Would be great for voice commands for home automation.
Frunple said:
Got any way to go the other way? From Glass to phone? Would be great for voice commands for home automation.
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Yes, it's possible to go the other way (from glass to Phone). However you need to run a HTTP server on your phone.... The whole Mirror API is two way...
I was thinking to have Tasker to enable/disable the HTTP server on phone based on the message sent (to save phone resource-->Battery when no message are needed) but don't have time to do it yet...
You are welcome to make modification here!
I don't understand step 4. I'm supposed to change variable from subtract to add?
foxdog66 said:
I don't understand step 4. I'm supposed to change variable from subtract to add?
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It's depends on your time zone. If you are in US, you need replace the "Variable Substract" action with "Variable add" action than put your time zone difference in second.
I'm trying to use this to forward YouTube videos to glass. Getting close I think.
foxdog66 said:
I'm trying to use this to forward YouTube videos to glass. Getting close I think.
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Any luck on this? Does the timeline card open up the correct application? Can I send myself a location from my phone and open it up with maps on glass? This would be awesome!
Does this still work without MyGlass ?