AT&T OTA availible now! (Build NK3) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)

boufa said:
I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)
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Yeah please post update if you find out what exactly is included in that OTA

Picking up speed now that my movie has paused
Note... I had to change the date in my settings to trigger the update. I checked for an update late yesterday, and it only lets you try once every 24 hours.

Its installing now... it seems to stick a few times (55% seemed to be there forever) but it is moving on. Looks like about 5+ minutes of install time after download.

boufa said:
Its installing now... it seems to stick a few times (55% seemed to be there forever) but it is moving on. Looks like about 5+ minutes of install time after download.
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Did the OTA just showed on your screen or did you manually look for updates? I hope it shows some sort of changelog, can't find anything online about it so far...

lebertian said:
Did the OTA just showed on your screen or did you manually look for updates? I hope it shows some sort of changelog, can't find anything online about it so far...
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I had seen a possible update from a forum post on another site. ... so I forced the check for update.
It just finished and there is no change log associated with it. I'll keep playing with it and let you know what I find. The recent apps button seems slightly faster, but I might be imagining it.
Other updates (the international devices) have indicated battery performance improvements, and reduced lag on the recent apps button. Not sure what else. But those updates were smaller in size even combined.

Just got and installed the update...unfortunately no change log of any sort. Phone seems a bit more responsive after bit otherwise no changes I have noticed yet.

Also included the gear vr software

With these updates in the works someone should be uploading new stock images and associated files, no? There may be some exploit for root introduced that was not present in the earlier version.
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And I know they're just coming in, just something to keep in mind. Someone with more skill/experience may want to chime in.

Stumbled on a app DSMLawmo that I hadn't seen before... or maybe it was there and I missed it.
But also the Gear VR Apps are now installed... I KNOW they are new.
IMS Settings and IMSLogger+... are these new. They look it.
(those apps are not in the app drawer, but under the app manager "all" tab)
In addition there is an option to backup your SMS's on AT&T's cloud .. is that new? Or am I looking too hard.
Did we have evernote installed before? It looks like it is baked in as bloatware now.

I really hope this is going to fix my horrible battery life...

"horrible battery life" is a matter of opinion and circumstances. It might make it better, but it can't fix things that it isn't causing.

boufa said:
Stumbled on a app DSMLawmo that I hadn't seen before... or maybe it was there and I missed it.
But also the Gear VR Apps are now installed... I KNOW they are new.
IMS Settings and IMSLogger+... are these new. They look it.
(those apps are not in the app drawer, but under the app manager "all" tab)
In addition there is an option to backup your SMS's on AT&T's cloud .. is that new? Or am I looking too hard.
Did we have evernote installed before? It looks like it is baked in as bloatware now.
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DSMLawmo is on my AT&T Note 4, update is currently downloading too. I don't see IMS Settings or IMSLogger+, so those are new for sure.
No option to back up SMS's.
Don't remember about Evernote, I use it anyways so it may have either been installed by default or my Google account pulled it down.

Phreck said:
DSMLawmo is on my AT&T Note 4, update is currently downloading too. I don't see IMS Settings or IMSLogger+, so those are new for sure.
No option to back up SMS's.
Don't remember about Evernote, I use it anyways so it may have either been installed by default or my Google account pulled it down.
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You can no longer uninstall Evernote... so its baked in now.
I find myself reaching for the recent apps button now.... that was a quickly formed habit... and using it to flip back to an app I was using. Right now I am playing candy crush (sorry, I'm weak) and checking gmail, skypeing with my wife at work; all with a flip of the recent apps button.

Just installed it! The only difference I've seen is that Evernote is there and I can't uninstall it or disable it... I don't see any other apps, settings, etc

boufa said:
You can no longer uninstall Evernote... so its baked in now.
I find myself reaching for the recent apps button now.... that was a quickly formed habit... and using it to flip back to an app I was using. Right now I am playing candy crush (sorry, I'm weak) and checking gmail, skypeing with my wife at work; all with a flip of the recent apps button.
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Also so you know, if you hold that button the menu key will work. Pretty handy for non updated apps that don't have the 3 dots.
Like xmbc remote.

sandman7793 said:
Also so you know, if you hold that button the menu key will work. Pretty handy for non updated apps that don't have the 3 dots.
Like xmbc remote.
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I know... bu there was too much of a delay before the update. I am more pleased now, but hopefully they bring it in a bit more in lollipop.
Edit... I am beginning to even forget there was any lag.... It is now very usable.

Recents key is hella faster now.

That was my only gripe...that delay. Checking for update now.
....and downloading. NIICE!
Wtf...as it downloads I'm noticing the recent is faster already. Damn you brain...

boufa said:
I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)
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If anyone else does not seem to see an up date go to Settings -> General -> About Device -> Software Updates -> Tap check for updates -> You will then start downloading the update as long as you are connected to a wireless network.

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New market is now public

It seems liks Google started using the new market. What do you guys think about it? I kinda like it
I downloaded the apk and tbh its well better than the old one graphically. The widget section is welcomed and the overall look is just great
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I uninstalled the updates (installed 2.2.6 APK), shut down, powered on my phone, checked the market and it updated itself automagically to 2.2.7.
It looks a bit nicer than the old one, although part of me misses the tabs - it works more fluidly than before - haven't had any downloads crash out on me either yet which is a good sign.
how do you get the new market? i dont see any updates on my desire running on cm 6.1.0
One day you'll wake up and it's there. No visible updates, just Google magic.
I just got it today. When I open the market apps it there already. The UI looks good.
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Downloads and installations are also a bit quicker which is nice.
edwinlee90 said:
how do you get the new market? i dont see any updates on my desire running on cm 6.1.0
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try the below:
Lothaen said:
I uninstalled the updates (installed 2.2.6 APK), shut down, powered on my phone, checked the market and it updated itself automagically to 2.2.7.
It looks a bit nicer than the old one, although part of me misses the tabs - it works more fluidly than before - haven't had any downloads crash out on me either yet which is a good sign.
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or find an APK for it... i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877330
More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
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More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
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I guess you could try uninstalling (from manage applications) and then try and find an old APK for the old market - that might stop updating itself
Kermode said:
More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
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I wouldn't mind, except there's a big bug (on my Desire - Orange uk). Whenever my phone runs out of battery and I charge it and go to the market, then click on 'my apps' it only shows about a third of them. So I have no idea if I have any updates on the missing ones. The only way I've resolved this is to go into settings/applications and 'uninstall updates' on the marketplace. Briefly the old market comes back before being replaced by the new one, and all my apps are then visible in the market until the next time the power runs out. Very lame.
poldie said:
I wouldn't mind, except there's a big bug (on my Desire - Orange uk). Whenever my phone runs out of battery and I charge it and go to the market, then click on 'my apps' it only shows about a third of them. So I have no idea if I have any updates on the missing ones. The only way I've resolved this is to go into settings/applications and 'uninstall updates' on the marketplace. Briefly the old market comes back before being replaced by the new one, and all my apps are then visible in the market until the next time the power runs out. Very lame.
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try clearing the data (and cache - why not) on the market - go back into it accept the terms and conditions, then let the apps refresh itself.
works for me
Lothaen said:
try clearing the data (and cache - why not) on the market - go back into it accept the terms and conditions, then let the apps refresh itself.
works for me
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Doesn't work for me.
Also, I don't think I've had any updates for any apps since the new market came out. I'm hoping this is a coincidence and that Google tested at least that bit.
I have had updates with apps - not many but some since updating to the new market.
not sure why you aren't getting the update - maybe its phasing across handsets in some sort of random order...?
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try the below:
or find an APK for it... i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877330
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right now im using cyanogen mod 6.1 which doenst have the new market. is it possible for it to automatically update to the newer market even though im running a custom rom? or would i need to download the apk for it and manually update it myself?

do we have a Note 4 bloatware list of apps to remove yet?

so far this is what i've got:
All Amazon Items
ANT Radio Service
ANT+ Plugins Service
Audible
Bingo Bash (was able to uninstall)
Blurb Checkout
*Caller Name ID (i actually use this but i know it's bloatware)
*Cloud (Verizon's, same as above)
Cookie Jam (was able to uninstall)
Family Base Companion (Verizon's)
Flipboard (some of you may want to keep it, some may not, or you can modify the touchwiz home settings to disable the briefing page)
Hancom Office (i need to investigate this further, i actually have a MS Office account that i can use for free)
HP Print Service Plugin
IMDB
Isis Wallet
Message+ (verizon)
My Info Zone (verizon)
NFL Mobile
Slacker Radio
S Voice
Scrapbook
Uber
Verizon Support/Protection
Verizon Location Agent (i need to look at some more info about this one)
VZ Navigator
Let me know what you all think.
Most of which can be removed till root but looks okay so far
We can simply disable these in the Application Settings section for the time being, right?
Here is my list, and I used Turn Off on most of them. Everything seems to be working smoothly.
listed from most hated first,
hangouts
google +
amazon kindle
amazon music
blurb
DT Ignite
flipboard
gmail
g play books
g play games
g play movies
g play music
vzw support & protection
slacker
imdb
yahoo weather
talkback
vz navigator
hancom office
audible
ant radio
ant plug ins
When you turn them off, do they still appear in the app tray? Or do they go away from there?
Any changes to these apps after the OTA?
usmaak said:
When you turn them off, do they still appear in the app tray? Or do they go away from there?
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they go away until u enable them again
armeN0317 said:
they go away until u enable them again
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Nice. I'm used to doing all of this with Titanium Backup. Guess that won't be a possibility this go around.
even though i do not see any OTA after I got my phone, i would rather just deactivate them until root. Can a moderator please keep an up to date list in the OP?
Update?
ronaldheld said:
even though i do not see any OTA after I got my phone, i would rather just deactivate them until root. Can a moderator please keep an up to date list in the OP?
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Have the above list of bloat apps been updated, or confirmed safe yet? Just curious Thank you guys for awesome info!
jason2042 said:
Have the above list of bloat apps been updated, or confirmed safe yet? Just curious Thank you guys for awesome info!
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I did it on my friends phone. Works perfectly fine. Still an incredible amount of bloat that you can't turn off, either. Not just from Verizon, but samsung too
kimdoocheol said:
I did it on my friends phone. Works perfectly fine. Still an incredible amount of bloat that you can't turn off, either. Not just from Verizon, but samsung too
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Cool, thanks. I just wanted a little reassurance that I was safe to turn all that junk off without any significant issues. Yeah, I know what you mean! All of those samsung galaxy apps, tools, payment methods, etc were really annoying when they made themselves at home on my device without my approval No matter - the phone runs great with or without that junk, so I am still extremely pleased overall.
jason2042 said:
Cool, thanks. I just wanted a little reassurance that I was safe to turn all that junk off without any significant issues. Yeah, I know what you mean! All of those samsung galaxy apps, tools, payment methods, etc were really annoying when they made themselves at home on my device without my approval No matter - the phone runs great with or without that junk, so I am still extremely pleased overall.
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Yeah, I'll report back if anything happens. I really doubt it though cause people with the de have turned off way more than we have the ability to with no reported issues.
BTW make sure you do not turn off Verizon login
A bit off topic, but does this phone have a ANT+ radio? If so can I use any of the Garmin modules (for example they have heart rate monitors, pedometers, and thermometer)?
Wyatt W.
Galaxy S6 Edge
jason2042 said:
Have the above list of bloat apps been updated, or confirmed safe yet? Just curious Thank you guys for awesome info!
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What does it mean when it was my phone does not support block mode?

Any widgets to toggle hotspot which actually work?!?

I'd love a widget which enabled me to toggle my hotspot on and off, but haven't found one that works with the AT&T variant for some reason. I've tried most of them off the Play store and when pressed they don't do anything. Has anyone found one that works?
My suggestion isn't a widget but a way to enable the hotspot toggle in the dropdown menu. Download an app called QuickPanel Manager from the Play Store. It's not free, but well worth the couple bucks. It enables toggles in the dropdown menu that have been disabled by the carriers. One little thing about the app, though (at least this is how it is on my phone)... after you get the settings they way you want, uninstall the app or the dropdown menu will revert back to original when the phone is rebooted. no idea why that happens. Hope this helps.
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My suggestion isn't a widget but a way to enable the hotspot toggle in the dropdown menu. Download an app called QuickPanel Manager from the Play Store. It's not free, but well worth the couple bucks. It enables toggles in the dropdown menu that have been disabled by the carriers. One little thing about the app, though (at least this is how it is on my phone)... after you get the settings they way you want, uninstall the app or the dropdown menu will revert back to original when the phone is rebooted. no idea why that happens. Hope this helps.
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Thank you, I'll give it a try. I've tried other apps which integrated into the dropdown menu and none of them worked, so I'm crossing my fingers this one does!
Edit: Before I purchase this, are you running Marshmallow? A couple of the reviews note this isn't working on MM, but they don't specify what phone they have.
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Thank you, I'll give it a try. I've tried other apps which integrated into the dropdown menu and none of them worked, so I'm crossing my fingers this one does!
Edit: Before I purchase this, are you running Marshmallow? A couple of the reviews note this isn't working on MM, but they don't specify what phone they have.
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I'm not running MM yet. I've been silently following all the feeds looking at results. I'm a little reluctant at this point just because I don't want to do it, then realize it might affect future updates. I'm on the verge of doing it though because it seems like things are going well. Trying to be patient.
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I'm not running MM yet. I've been silently following all the feeds looking at results. I'm a little reluctant at this point just because I don't want to do it, then realize it might affect future updates. I'm on the verge of doing it though because it seems like things are going well. Trying to be patient.
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I ran out of patience, lol. I put the MM floating around here on and it runs flawlessly. It's an official update from AT&T which is from a few days ago and doesn't trip Knox. I have a feeling it will integrate with updates with no issue, but that's just a guess.
I did try Quickpanel, it doesn't work with MM. It just crashes when you open it up.

Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.

Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.
Facts:
1) Two phones, Pixel 3 and 3 XL, latest patches. Both rooted, running ElementalX and Magisk. Both have same apps installed and settings.
2) Playstore "Auto-update" is disabled, set to "Don't auto-update apps".
3) Play Protect is fully disabled.
4) TiBu has no scheduled jobs
5) No threat/system scanner running
Behavior background:
1) Started noticing a few months ago (so not a patch update issue).
2) Happens only when phone is charging and wifi on (I have wifi set to turn on when plugged in, I have not isolated whether it is caused by one or the other, or both).
3) Seems to happen around/between 10:20 PM and 11:20 PM PST, based on file timestamp.
4) Does not happen every night. I charge the phone (therefore wifi turns on during charge) every night). I have not been able to find a pattern.
The strange behavior I cannot explain:
1) When it happens, a few (can be 1, 2, or 5) apps are found to have been updated on their own.
2) However, these apps are not shown updated in the Playstore and their version remained the same.
3) When I go to data/app, these apps look like they are updated based on time/date stamp (from the night before).
4) However, their version number has not changed, Playstore does not show a recent update.
5) It does not matter when the app was last truly updated or installed. Even disabled app will get this "ghost re-install/update". Apps seem to be picked randomly.
In sum, I find a few apps that get randomly self-updated, but they were really not updated. The version has changed and Playstore does not know anything about it (not on update list). Also, version has not changed. In fact, though, their timestamp show that it was updated.
Here is the kicker--I see the behavior in both phones. AND, they are the same (at least about the same list of) apps that get the "ghost update". If I don't plug in one phone to charge (and wifi not on), that phone does not get the update until the next time it is plugged in.
W-T-F???
What are the apps? Is it always the same ones?
Seemingly random apps, both user-installed and system (e.g., Chrome, Data Transfer Tool). I have not been able to detect a pattern on which app gets this ghost update. I started noticing this late December, best guess.
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
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Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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No, it has happened to plenty of 3rd party apps both root apps and not.
sliding_billy said:
Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
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Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
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Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
snovvman said:
Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
snovvman said:
I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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Yeah, the "updates" my not have happened at the same time (or even the same day) but eventually the apps that are shared on various devices would end up modified for me as well.
FSTRIM?
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pkelly517 said:
FSTRIM?
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I am not using the FSTRIM app, and the fact that eventually all of the same apps (6 devices on various Android versions) would end up getting updated but not all apps makes it unlikely that native trimming is causing it.

Question Facebook and Instagram FULLSCREEN

It took me a long while....
But I'm back one more time!
I've finally got Facebook locked into phone mode with the bar across the top not the side!
This
1 Stops cutting the sides of pictures
2 looks way better imo with it FULLSCREEN and the pictures nice and big
3 finally figured out how to stop auto updating.
I went as far as disabling play store to test if it was play store... Still updated..
So I've used app cloner with a few tweaked settings and she's now done updating finally!!!!
I was testing some modded apps but they all broke the stories button to add a story.
This works 100 as it should!
If anyone is interested let me know I will do a step by step!
One issue.. No notifications. I'm still on it will update later
if you need some additional users let us know. Whoever designed the apps for foldables was definitely smoking something lol
Smittyzz said:
It took me a long while....
But I'm back one more time!
I've finally got Facebook locked into phone mode with the bar across the top not the side!
This
1 Stops cutting the sides of pictures
2 looks way better imo with it FULLSCREEN and the pictures nice and big
3 finally figured out how to stop auto updating.
I went as far as disabling play store to test if it was play store... Still updated..
So I've used app cloner with a few tweaked settings and she's now done updating finally!!!!
I was testing some modded apps but they all broke the stories button to add a story.
This works 100 as it should!
If anyone is interested let me know I will do a step by step!
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Please share a step by step method to optimise Instagram, thanks in advance.
I've been working nonstop to try and figure this out.
Facebook:
Option A
For Facebook, I can lock it from updating with a step by step guide the only issues are
1. I doesn't push notifications but does retrieve them
2. If a marketplace listing or Facebook link is sent to you through messenger it opens in the browser not the app, cannot get this fixed..
Option B
Install a certain version of Facebook and don't ever close the app out (this way all links open and messenger and Facebook read each other as they should) found the right app that keeps stories intact!
Guide; install 376.0.0.12.108 (arm64-v8a) (nodpi) (Android 10+) login force close once it will update once then leave it alone no closing it out. (App or phone restart will call for a reinstall)
Option c
I found an older modded Facebook app that will auto update after the first close to a current version without forcing the app to tablet mode
(This app blocks ads reals and stories but breaks connection to messenger completely, meaning if you click the top right messenger button in Facebook it will prompt you to install which it already is..
Instagram:
Download version 253.x.x.x.x and block auto updates
Messenger:
Found an ad blocked version that works but completely breaks connection to all fb apps.
Instagram is flawless
Facebook is silently updating every night at 12.. it's NOT play store, I disabled to test.
My current setup is option B for Facebook. I'm sure I will have to reinstall every now and then but it's worth having the full screen
I've been fighting this hard as I feel they really wasted some space and cut a bunch of all the pictures to make it work..
I've tried cloning the apk with messing with Android version, play store ids, everything
Option B is the best option with everything working nothing broke
Coming back one more time...
After trying to get Verizon on esim I had to restart and lost my Facebook and it has been fighting hard since....
Facebook setting, search media, device settings, media and contacts and shut off auto update app. I finally found it! Was hidden deep in the settings
Last reply. Updates turned off and I can finally restart my phone and do whatever without it silently updating.
Finally have won this battle !
You don't like the updated Facebook look with the toolbar on the side?
So what steps do I need to take to get INSTAGRAM full screen please ?
Fatmonk8 said:
You don't like the updated Facebook look with the toolbar on the side?
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I don't, it's not fully utilized to me, it cuts a lot of pics off on the sides
I like this one much better
elio321 said:
So what steps do I need to take to get INSTAGRAM full screen please ?
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Download version 253.x.x.x.x and block auto updates in play store
Smittyzz said:
I don't, it's not fully utilized to me, it cuts a lot of pics off on the sides
I like this one much better
Download version 253.x.x.x.x and block auto updates in play store
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Interesting, I guess I don't notice pictures being cut off. I thought the new layout was better optimized for the fold screen. To each there own though.

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